Or is that all in Billy's head and in the heads of the few retarded fans that still follow him?

If current Billy is seriously a world class musician, we are fucked. The dumbing down of art continues.

He's a pretty good guitarist and has written some great songs. World class? What does that really mean anyway?

Who am I? or rather What is I? a roman numeral?

technically: yes
in all other aspects: no

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The dumbing down of art continues!

who gives a fuck?

He was a great songwriter who could play his instrument in a way that elevated those songs.

Or is that all in Billy's head and in the heads of the few retarded fans that still follow him?

If current Billy is seriously a world class musician, we are fucked. The dumbing down of art continues.

I have a problem with the word class here more than the actual idea it represents.

Maybe level is more appropriate?

He was a great songwriter who could play his instrument in a way that elevated those songs.

Yea, and had a band chemistry that gave them personality. Or whatever, synergy... something

OH I DO! :D

Not any more. He's just a cocky god loving faggot.

yeah, i do

eh, he's got a supreme amount of talent that he has utilized incredibly at some times, and very poorly at other times. i consider artists like neil young, the beatles, led zep, etc. as "world class musicians".

i don't think we'll really know if billy is world class until more time has passed, but i'd have to say that given the things that have happened since the reformation of the band, he won't be viewed as such.

No.

He's a fantastic guitar player still.

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He's a fantastic guitar player still.

He has an interestingly unique playing style...

yah i notice laypeople usually attribute it to James

i like to say Billy Corgan is a criminally underrated guitarist everywhere but inside his head.

yah i notice laypeople usually attribute it to James

It's James' hair. Come on

i think it's because billy is so loathsome people generally don't want to give him credit for much

For the moderately well informed, perhaps. But laypeople are going to think the girly man with the cool hair did all the work.

Anyway James must have added something, because after he completely stopped trying to have input the music changed. Even Trots can't refute that.

So....the Smashing Pumpkins 1 were world class. Billy on his own? Nah

For the moderately well informed, perhaps. But laypeople are going to think the girly man with the cool hair did all the work.

what the fuck are you even talking about

you realize that most people don't even know who james iha is right

THAT LAYPEOPLE WILL THINK JAMES IS THE REAL MUSICIAN BASED ON LOOKS

you realize that most people don't even know who james iha is right

Not by name but if they ever watch a video they will think he's the one with the creativity because he let someone dye his hair..

Hell, a lot of people don't even know Corgan by name. So that eliminates the possibility of him being "world class"

i dont think anyone in this thread can give an educated answer on this

Even Trots can't refute that.



this was the only flaw in my logic. What was I thinking here???

Not by name but if they ever watch a video they will think he's the one with the creativity because he let someone dye his hair..

billy is the creative one, he let himself go bald