The difference between types of suck in The Fellowship and Spangled prompt this query.

How does spangled differ from the other happy shit? imo it doesnt really. Therefore I cannot vote.

No answer for me.
I hated Adore on the first listening, Machina too and Siamese too and now I love them all.
And it happens also with Spangled.

By other side I pretty liked MCIS on the first listening and now is my fav album.

The good thing with Billy writting is I never know what will happen!

No answer for me.
I hated Adore on the first listening, Machina too and Siamese too and now I love them all.
And it happens also with Spangled.

By other side I pretty liked MCIS on the first listening and now is my fav album.

The good thing with Billy writting is I never know what will happen!

Actually, that's a great point. I hated songs like STRTJ and "Waiting" and basically any abrasive Pumpkins song on first listen, but some of those are my favorites now...


I wonder if some degree of that can happy with any of this happy stuff

I liked gish right away. Siamese took a couple of listens to get used to the fuzz but I never hated it it just sounded different to what I was used to.

I didnt much like MCIS for a week or so, and I think there's certain aspects to it I still dislike. Some of the lyrics are a bit cheesy - Zero, BWBW

I pretty much liked Adore from the off.

Machina I feel the same way about now as I did when I first heard it.

Same with Zwan

Zeitgeist I disliked and still do.

I dont think TBK is going to grow on me, all I see is a progressive dip in form throughout the last decade.

nothing is worse than widow wake my mind. i voted option 1

^what he said

i thought the "everything he writes is gold" option was a comedy one. but seeing how eyesofruby32 and corganist voted for it i guess i should've taken it seriously

Sucking in a new way is worse because there is nothing happening at the time to cover it up. If you hate all their new songs you shouldn't go see a show or follow the band, really. That's what is happening NOW. But if you hate the old then you can just ignore it. I can't say that Pumpkins music is easy to love right away, either. It definitely takes a couple times of hearing it before it connects with a part of me...I'm not sure if that made sense..I haven't slept in around 30 hours O.O'

these tbk songs are all better live, they should just only release live stuff now, or something.

everything he writes is platinum

i thought the "everything he writes is gold" option was a comedy one. but seeing how eyesofruby32 and corganist voted for it i guess i should've taken it seriously

That's what I was thinking! I had to vote for that one just for the sarcasm factor.

I picked gold, but it was only 68% sarcastic. The thing is, the vast majority of his songs are really quite good, and for most of the ones that do suck there are probably a good chunk of people that disagree with that sentiment. Choices 1 and 2 might also be seen as do you prefer if Corgan sticks with one style of music that you don't like, or experiments with different styles of music you don't like? I like that he continues to try new things, and I totally dig when it works, and I hope for the ones that don't that I will eventually come to appreciate them.

On the other hand, I doubt that he puts the same time and honest effort into each song, and is probably less self-critical than his younger days. So more shit gets through his filters, hence the suck.

Does no-one else feel that it's a waste of energy and emotion determining levels of suckiness?

no place i'd rather waste my energy and emotion than netphoria.

if corgan has ever been right about anything, is that he is progressive. progressive at sucking.

yes but do you follow his twitters?