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Monet LSD
09-14-2010, 01:32 AM
The Smashing Pumpkins exclusive song release through Sweet Relief Musician's Fund (http://sweetrelief.org/)

rudi
09-14-2010, 01:33 AM
1st

edit: fuck, aside from a slightly interesting chord progression the song sucks, get a fucking producer for jesus fucking christ's fucking sake

Astur
09-14-2010, 01:39 AM
maybe it's because I just woke up and haven't had breakfast but it sounds slightly charming

samuel redman
09-14-2010, 01:40 AM
edit: fuck, aside from a slightly interesting chord progression the song sucks, get a fucking producer for jesus fucking christ's fucking sake

the chord progression or bridge or whatever is good though

Ball Sack Face
09-14-2010, 01:41 AM
lol at the drums coming in at 1:32

rudi
09-14-2010, 01:44 AM
the chord progression or bridge or whatever is good though

i think the chord progression is kind of cool. but fuck the stupid mawkish demo-sounding harpsichord shit, the lack of depth, billy's vocals as usual. God fucking damn it. "FOL" came on after this song and it just blows it out of the water. And it's FOL for chrissake

samuel redman
09-14-2010, 01:44 AM
i just can't stand the drumming

Ball Sack Face
09-14-2010, 01:53 AM
# People change. People move on. People grow up (not me obviously!!). I'm happy. Love Love Love being in this band! I make no apology for us. about 2 hours ago via txt

# It's like, *news flash*, the circus has elephants+clowns+a guy in a top hat. SP is what it is + it a'int changing to match your death dream about 2 hours ago via txt

# carinaround You can't get a suntan on the moon about 2 hours ago via web Retweeted by Billy and 7 others

# But if you piss on my lawn I'm gonna tell you to get the hell off my lawn.The message hasn't changed since '87. We're in the makeithappenbiz about 2 hours ago via txt

# I believe ALL should follow their HEART and do what they think best. If criticism is *it* for you, great. about 2 hours ago via txt

# RT @lindastrawberry: @billy if any of those hipster blog fools knew anything real about music they'd be MAKING IT not whining and posing ... about 2 hours ago via txt


I think Billy knows the song sucks and prepared for the reaction. he showed his hand a bit early

Corganist
09-14-2010, 01:55 AM
Doesn't do anything for me. And I had some hopes for it based on the live version. This sounds like some weird conflab of Teargarden Theme and Widow Wake My Mind, which are by far my two least favorite TGBK songs. I think it would have been great if it was produced to sound more like Freak. I like the last 45 seconds or so of the song, but once again, it just feels muted and tame compared to the swelling wall of sound that I'm wanting to hear.

Hopefully, the fact that this one is so short will mean that they won't wait 3 months to put out the next one.

samuel redman
09-14-2010, 01:58 AM
Freak's production sucked, and so did live Spangled. i like the majority of this song though

samuel redman
09-14-2010, 02:06 AM
edit: nope

Corganist
09-14-2010, 02:07 AM
I just really don't like the synth-y sounds he's been using on these songs. It all sounds like bad MIDI to me.

Ball Sack Face
09-14-2010, 02:08 AM
it sounds like the harpsichord on my friend's casio keyboard from about 1997

slunken
09-14-2010, 02:09 AM
Good Lord. Not good.

Trotskilicious
09-14-2010, 02:09 AM
you guys are hipster blog fascists

Rider
09-14-2010, 02:15 AM
you guys are hipster blog fascists

Dude your so not integral enough.

Kahlo
09-14-2010, 02:44 AM
Sounds like an Eels song

danondorf
09-14-2010, 03:05 AM
Good Lord. Not good.

This. 3 months for this one song? It's not bad, but it's so short, almost sounds like an interlude.

Still waiting for "The Fellowship".....

whorebucket
09-14-2010, 03:07 AM
not impressed. sorry billy.

jczeroman
09-14-2010, 03:28 AM
Filler.

Starla
09-14-2010, 03:45 AM
holy shit

:42 - very faint demons speaking

1:30 - demons hissing

1:38 - more demons hissing

1:47 - something whispering

other than that, it's an OK song. Still not as good as wwmm

Cool As Ice Cream
09-14-2010, 03:50 AM
not going to listen to this. shove it up your ass, bill.

Starla
09-14-2010, 03:57 AM
with the next ep he's giving away a paint by number mandala and a dream catcher key chain.

Cool As Ice Cream
09-14-2010, 03:59 AM
with the next ep he's giving away a paint by number mandala and a dream catcher key chain.

i can't even tell if you're joking or not.

aztec litany service
09-14-2010, 04:07 AM
crap

eyeboogers
09-14-2010, 04:21 AM
The song is good bordering on great. Ep2 is shaping up to be the anthem e.p of the bunch.

Rider
09-14-2010, 04:35 AM
I get the feeling Billy might be trying to start a blog fight to get some PR and get this song mentioned.

"Crazy Billy Corgan, posted a bunch of crazy on twitter today in response to someone who made a blog post about previous crazy shit he has done. And by the way he put out a new song to download from his crazy EP/Album"

Morlock
09-14-2010, 05:07 AM
Production, vocals and lyrics kill it. Amazing how mediocre his output has become.

cork_soaker
09-14-2010, 05:17 AM
<marquee behavior="alternate">butterflies!...............</marquee>
<marquee behavior="alternate">................................................go d!!</marquee>
<marquee behavior="alternate">butterflies!......................</marquee>
<marquee behavior="alternate">..........god!!</marquee>
<marquee behavior="alternate">butterflies!................................</marquee>
<marquee behavior="alternate">..................................god!!</marquee>
<marquee behavior="alternate">butterflies!...........................</marquee>
<marquee behavior="alternate">...........................god!!</marquee>

Spira|_
09-14-2010, 06:25 AM
God but Billy is doing music for who actually?

Spira|_
09-14-2010, 06:34 AM
The vocals are horseshit.
The 'midi' sound is lame.
The drums are poor poor. The simply linear and striaght rock recipe (4/1?). Hate.
I had fear at 1:32. Plz stop with it. You aren't in the high school anymore Byrne!


I only like 0:26 to 0:33.

lambert
09-14-2010, 07:37 AM
I'd find this kinda decent if the song were a b-side. Unfortunately it's not...

RenewRevive
09-14-2010, 08:17 AM
awful. it sounded insubstantial and shit live and sadly is no better in the studio. Freak was actually pretty good, but is this the so-called "A-material"? or has Billy forgot that he said this already. Easily the worst TBK song so far, shockingly including Widow. i'm beginning to look back wistfully at the Zeitgeist era, so it may be time to lead me off to the paddock and put a bullet in my noggin.

it is becoming apparent that the biggest problem with this 44 song project is that, unlike an album Billy can pretty much just put anything out and call it TBK, irrespective of quality, requiring no editorial control whatsoever. he really needs to bring someone like Flood onboard, just to say Yes or No. amazing now to see how great songs like STRTJ and Marquis didn't make the cut for MCIS. but i guess i must be living in 1993 right Billy?

Sonic Johnny
09-14-2010, 08:21 AM
Oh man, I haven't stuck my head into the TGK abortion pile for a while, but this is, if it's at all possible, worse than song for a song.

This Byrne kid has got to go. Oh, and fuck a producer, Bill needs to get himself a ghostwriter.

Cool As Ice Cream
09-14-2010, 08:25 AM
<marquee BEHAVIOR=ALTERNATE SCROLLAMOUNT=12>ABSOLUTELY GROUNDBREAKING!</marquee>

Corganist
09-14-2010, 08:27 AM
I think by now we've heard enough of Byrne's drumming to know that whatever it is they're doing to it in the studio is doing him no favors. Say what you want about his skill level, but he's clearly a whole hell of a lot better than the production on these tracks have shown.

Still pretty meh on the song overall, though I did think it sounded better in the car this morning on the way to the gym than it did through headphones.

kingflupps
09-14-2010, 08:36 AM
Completely agree that the midi harpsichord is total arse, I guess that because he has started that trend now with SFAS he intends to carry it all the way through but... I actually really like the song. It's growing on me every time I hear it and late Beatles is a very good comparison. If we get As Rome Burns/Make It Happen/Owata/MLIW on the rest of the E.P I think the inclusion of this song will serve as a brilliant album track - like Lily or Farewell Goodnight and it adds an interesting variety to TGBK. Good work Bill.

dustrock
09-14-2010, 08:56 AM
drums are pedestrian. Byrne can do fast songs but doesn't have the style yet to make this stand out.

sorry, but it would be three times as good with Jimmy drumming.

production choices.....heavy on the organ. Not a bad song, somewhere between an Adore b-side and Zwan maybe.

kinda wish the outro was a bit different but it doesn't ruin the song.



Once again, have to reiterate - I'd probably have more good things to say about this song if we didn't have to wait for forever for each track.

dustrock
09-14-2010, 08:56 AM
with a real producer, I think this could have been a pretty great song.

I like the melody line "tangled in your body, spangled by the night sky" or whatever. shame it gets ruined with SMB music.

Corganist
09-14-2010, 09:05 AM
I think the main thing that bothers me about this song is that Billy is so obviously happy with how it turned out. Not that I think the song is bad, but I really hope it isn't the kind of song Billy aspires to write every time he sits down these days. If this song were one of a set of demos or something, I think most people here would consider it a nice little song. But as a "hey, look at this pretty song that I'm really proud of" sort of thing, it doesn't work for me.

paranoid
09-14-2010, 09:10 AM
I think by now we've heard enough of Byrne's drumming to know that whatever it is they're doing to it in the studio is doing him no favors. Say what you want about his skill level, but he's clearly a whole hell of a lot better than the production on these tracks have shown.

Still pretty meh on the song overall, though I did think it sounded better in the car this morning on the way to the gym than it did through headphones.

A good drum part should still be able to translate through shit production. See starz and other rtb tracks on zeitgeist.

Slurpee
09-14-2010, 09:32 AM
It's a bad Beatles cover. Even the drums sound like you're pressing the "drum fill" button on one of those shitty Casio keyboards for kids.

Rickpat12
09-14-2010, 09:39 AM
I kinda like it. It has a different vibe than some of the other songs, ala Cupid from MCIS, and no, I'm not comparing it to Cupid. Just the difference of vibes.

stripes
09-14-2010, 09:40 AM
o-board loves it

stripes
09-14-2010, 09:41 AM
Which is surprising

dustrock
09-14-2010, 09:43 AM
actually, I'd say reactions there are more mixed than usual

Caine Walker
09-14-2010, 09:48 AM
starting the song with that midi-sounding harpischord bullshit ruined any favorable impression i might have of this song.

Astur
09-14-2010, 10:13 AM
Ok I've had both breakfast and lunch now and I can retract from my first statement. It sucks little dicks. Could've been better though. Agree with the "midi sound" shitty feel that someone adressed previously

redbreegull
09-14-2010, 10:19 AM
this is really bad

daevil1
09-14-2010, 10:49 AM
has a pretty pretty star vibe from his solo record

paranoid
09-14-2010, 11:13 AM
my biggest beef with this song is that it just ends. it's like it sets itself in motion then stops, and that's it. this song could have exploded into something else, gone into a neat direction right where it ends.. but instead we're left feeling meh. background noise.

i think the only thing this project has proven so far is that BC needs a GOOD producer and a better drummer. Not necessarily Jimmy (whom I think would obviously be the best choice).. but at least someone more professional and with a better musical sense. This drum part sounds way too directed, and Mike isn't good enough to perform what he's told to play while still making it sound organic at the same time.

I like the chords, piano/mellotron layers though. as a whole though it goes no where, like a fat lazy duck in a smelly pond.

Musica
09-14-2010, 11:17 AM
Wonder when we see a first "appreciation thread" for a track from TBK. Is there any already? I searched but didn't find one.

dustrock
09-14-2010, 11:18 AM
yeah, as a matter of fact, when people heard the live version, they were saying the song was going to be longer and "you can tell" it's going to go into a longer part on the album version.

Certainly Billy's songs are way more straightforward than they used to be, but a decent song like this could have become something greater.

What happened to the "psychedelic" sounds were we promised?

slunken
09-14-2010, 11:43 AM
Transition track. Just a bummer there was so much wait for it and will be even more waiting for the next tune.

JUnderscore
09-14-2010, 12:25 PM
I think Spangled will stand taller in the context of the entire project. You know, mixed in with the other songs.

BlissedandGone2
09-14-2010, 12:26 PM
I actually like this one. I guess that's pretty fucked up of me.

Eulogy
09-14-2010, 12:32 PM
it's shit.

next.

Eulogy
09-14-2010, 12:33 PM
and jesus fuck corganist stop defending mike byrne. he's shit. this song is shit.

and i thought freak was ok.

dean_r_koontz
09-14-2010, 12:44 PM
corgan is back in denial mode again, writing about how happy he is. I suspect the next two or so EP's will have lackluster material until he has to go back to lonely town and face the pain.

Ball Sack Face
09-14-2010, 12:44 PM
At this point it would be far more interesting for billy to sit down with an acoustic guitar and pound out some cutesy boom box demos. Soothe has far better production qualities than any of TGBK and there's a frickin' bus in the background.

dean_r_koontz
09-14-2010, 12:50 PM
i don't think it's an accident that he started writing decent songs during a period of inactivity from touring and other ways of redirecting his attention from his inner life.

dustrock
09-14-2010, 12:52 PM
looking forward to EP3 when the full band starts recording

wounded
09-14-2010, 12:53 PM
wait. so is the song released this month? if so fuck that, i was looking forward to tom tom or something, well something not this

vbshlofbvgos
09-14-2010, 01:05 PM
i don't hate it but it makes freak sound like a masterpiece. which is not good i tell you.

pepper666
09-14-2010, 01:09 PM
I agree on this, actually this song is better with every listen and that is what SP is (also) about.. good job Billy

Irridescent Fairysex
09-14-2010, 01:10 PM
really? I think this might the best of the bunch yet...

nofix
09-14-2010, 01:50 PM
Billy, your vocals fucking suck. Get over yourself and do something for the fans that have kept money in your pocket all these years you piece of shit.

wHATcOLOR
09-14-2010, 01:57 PM
Still pretty meh on the song overall, though I did think it sounded better in the car this morning on the way to the gym than it did through headphones.

did you get a good sweat on, bro??

Saih
09-14-2010, 02:07 PM
It's a bad Beatles cover. Even the drums sound like you're pressing the "drum fill" button on one of those shitty Casio keyboards for kids.

Yeah, my initial reaction was that it was a Beatles song. The song doesn't have staying power, I doubt I'll go back to listen to it. It just sounds empty and predictable.

Corganist
09-14-2010, 02:09 PM
and jesus fuck corganist stop defending mike byrne. he's shit. this song is shit.


I wouldn't have to defend him if people would take Billy and Kerry to task for the way the drums sound on these songs instead of clinging to this ridiculous "he's not Jimmy, so he's the worst drummer ever" mantra. He may not be great, or even that good...but he's not shit, and especially not as shit as he's been made to sound on these recordings.

Eulogy
09-14-2010, 02:15 PM
I wouldn't have to defend him if people would take Billy and Kerry to task for the way the drums sound on these songs instead of clinging to this ridiculous "he's not Jimmy, so he's the worst drummer ever" mantra. He may not be great, or even that good...but he's not shit, and especially not as shit as he's been made to sound on these recordings.

i've seen his live drumming too. and it's bad. is that also billy and kerry's fault?

Eulogy
09-14-2010, 02:18 PM
he's just not good. i can't think of any other band where you listen and think "wow the drummer really sucks," because when people have mediocre drummers, they work around it effectively.

It's everyone's fault. But mostly Byrne's since he's the one who sucks.

Cool As Ice Cream
09-14-2010, 02:18 PM
i've seen his live drumming too. and it's bad. is that also billy and kerry's fault?

yes, it is.

Eulogy
09-14-2010, 02:21 PM
yes, it is.

eh?

wHATcOLOR
09-14-2010, 02:24 PM
hey corganist how come you didn't answer my question i'm more interested to know about that than i am to bother giving this song a listen

samuel redman
09-14-2010, 02:43 PM
hey broskino

samuel redman
09-14-2010, 02:44 PM
broski mustache

Slurpee
09-14-2010, 02:47 PM
I am living in the past because it is a lot more awesome. Let's all go listen to the drums in Zero.

Slurpee
09-14-2010, 02:50 PM
he's just not good. i can't think of any other band where you listen and think "wow the drummer really sucks,"

Coldplay's drummer is totally awful and they insist on featuring him rather prominently. Of course since they are mediocre it is not such a big deal, but still, he's bad even compared to the rest of them.

franzel
09-14-2010, 03:11 PM
After a first listen I must say Spangled doesn't irritate me. Maybe I will grow to love it. Still hoping for better music though.

SpFission
09-14-2010, 03:30 PM
alright, not as bad as I expected after coming here first and reading this thread.

it's ok and kind of interesting in parts.

stripes
09-14-2010, 03:54 PM
Yeah, it's pretty good. I hope they don't bring the keyboards back into the live mix, though

samuel redman
09-14-2010, 03:57 PM
it would be better if Billt wasn't spewing garbage and talking about how it's one of his favorites ever. it give me no hope and it makes me think he's lost the huge talent he had

nofix
09-14-2010, 04:22 PM
Jesus. I just thought how embarrassing it would be to be listening to this while anyone was around.

soniclovenoize
09-14-2010, 04:28 PM
Still sounds like shitty Zwan to me.

Astur
09-14-2010, 04:31 PM
that final echoed guitar outro is pretty gay

dean_r_koontz
09-14-2010, 04:37 PM
Couldn't get through the song. I cringed three times before the 1 minute mark.

New Art Rioter
09-14-2010, 04:38 PM
Better and more interesting than a lot of Teargarden, but again the special factor that made so many SP songs have that otherworldly feeling is missing. Can't pinpoint it exactly. The chopping and changing and key changing in a relatively short song seems a bit jarring

megalomano
09-14-2010, 04:40 PM
it sucks to me.....

The midi keyboard videogame sound, the drums, the vocals, the lyrics... puagggggggggg.

sh sh shayne
09-14-2010, 04:44 PM
Best song off w/e teh fuck this stupid album is called. Good song. Chill out people not every song needs to be a classic, this is a good little diddy.

dustrock
09-14-2010, 04:48 PM
not every song needs to be a classic, but so far we have 6 (7) songs and not a single classic. Billy's ratio is off.

Corganist
09-14-2010, 05:08 PM
Still sounds like shitty Zwan to me.

It sounds nothing like Zwan.

Ball Sack Face
09-14-2010, 05:43 PM
Jesus. I just thought how embarrassing it would be to be listening to this while anyone was around.

lol

Rider
09-14-2010, 05:57 PM
It sounds nothing like Zwan.

Dud come on ZWAN had so many songs with midi harpsichord. Not sure how you can't see the similarities.

Shallowed
09-14-2010, 06:01 PM
I imagined that Brian Wilson, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr got together to make a supergroup and made this song, it made it slightly less embarrassing.

Still only listening to it this one time.

The Jesus
09-14-2010, 07:15 PM
This song does nothing for me.

Ihaguitar
09-14-2010, 07:23 PM
It's one of the better Teargarden tracks so far but still weak. The drums are disappointing.

LaBelle
09-14-2010, 07:40 PM
pretty boring song... billy's yet to release a teargarden song I enjoy (and I even like most of zeitgeist...)

here's hoping for owata in the future

rudi
09-14-2010, 07:47 PM
Jesus. I just thought how embarrassing it would be to be listening to this while anyone was around.

GOD. You are so right. I would feel less gay if somebody caught me with a cock in my mouth.

And to whoever was getting the PrettY Pretty STAR vibe, me too, except Spangled seriously makes Pretty Pretty Star seem lush and magnificent.

Better and more interesting than a lot of Teargarden, but again the special factor that made so many SP songs have that otherworldly feeling is missing. Can't pinpoint it exactly. The chopping and changing and key changing in a relatively short song seems a bit jarring

Here's an acupuncturist's worth of pinpoints on why SP3 is missing that "otherworldy" feeling:

No Jimmy, no real producer to tell Billy which songs fucking suck, no real producer to make whatever decent songs Billy writes NOT sound like fucking shit, Kerry fucking Brown, Mike fucking Byrne, and whatever fucking leeches Billy has surrounded himself with that have insulated him from the truth, which is that he is writing absolutely nothing of worth anymore.

/bloodpressure

LaBelle
09-14-2010, 07:59 PM
even linkin park is releasing more interesting material than billy nowadays... RIP smashing pumpkins

Duke
09-14-2010, 08:15 PM
In my opinion the song isn't terrible. It sure isn't anything to write home about either. Middle of the road is the only thing that comes to my mind when I listen to this song. Maybe that's worse....I don't even know anymore.

Rider
09-14-2010, 08:25 PM
even linkin park is releasing more interesting material than billy nowadays... RIP smashing pumpkins

It took you ten years to realize this?

Eulogy
09-14-2010, 08:37 PM
I'm trying again, and I think if you slowed it down and made it just Bill and a piano, it might be alright. or maybe just an acoustic guitar. i dunno.

Eulogy
09-14-2010, 08:38 PM
the lyrics are unusually bad though. i didn't really listen to them before.

slunken
09-14-2010, 08:40 PM
Linda said the song was good when BC played it at her wedding, so it looks like old Bill had a good 14 months to fuck it up by the time he got around to recording it.

Looks like this "record the song really fast to get it out there and keep the emotion" plan is working splendidly.

wHATcOLOR
09-14-2010, 08:58 PM
ahahahah!! man, i listened to this. ugh. not even worth the effort required to delete it from my hard drive.


and lest i sound like even more of an ungrateful brat than i would otherwise, i happily pay for music that i enjoy, and do it quite a often.

in a way, giving it for free is kind of like a shield against criticism. "i sell records, people complain. hardly anyone buys them. i release it for free, they STILL complain! therefore america is fundamentally negative, and i choose to embrace the light! enough with these entitled brats stuck in 1993, i can't win, so here is my glorious music of light, for free"

whereas the reality is a free piece of garbage is still a piece of garbage, and the complaints stem from lack of passion and quality, pure and simple

paranoid
09-14-2010, 09:09 PM
You know what I've noticed? Any of the fan boy sites you go to, most of the fans are kinda meh with this new song, and are demanding they release a song that also seems to be getting the best response of the new songs at live shows.. As Rome Burns. A song with a dominating drum track that was written by Jimmy.

soniclovenoize
09-14-2010, 09:24 PM
It sounds nothing like Zwan.

The production, song construction and vocal style are all much closer to Zwan than SP. If Spangle had Jimmy's drumming and Paz's backing vocals on it, Spangle would be a fucking Zwan b-side.

Your move.

eyesofruby32
09-14-2010, 09:52 PM
Holy shit, I listened to Spangled, then Freak came on after, When Freak finished, I wasn't expecting the Tom Waits song Lucky Day (Overture) to come on. My senses are still recovering.

BTW, Spangled is good, but way too short. Where was the extra verse and chorus?

soniclovenoize
09-14-2010, 10:25 PM
Holy shit, I listened to Spangled, then Freak came on after, When Freak finished, I wasn't expecting the Tom Waits song Lucky Day (Overture) to come on. My senses are still recovering.

BTW, Spangled is good, but way too short. Where was the extra verse and chorus?

Black Rider > everything Corgan has done in the last 10 years.

tweedyburd
09-14-2010, 10:28 PM
Sounds like Desire...

TuralyonW3
09-14-2010, 11:38 PM
kinda poor, but not Widow poor. Pretty lame though.

I like the synth brass in the second chorus.

TuralyonW3
09-14-2010, 11:39 PM
I'm trying again, and I think if you slowed it down and made it just Bill and a piano, it might be alright. or maybe just an acoustic guitar. i dunno.

Solo piano, singing in SD or Mellon collie voice quality might make a good song.

His thing whiny voice really puts a damper on everything these days.

arCHI
09-15-2010, 12:50 AM
this is just a production shit-show, and the lyrics are painfully bad. not to mention everything byrne does makes me feel awkward. i am not a drummer so i really cant articulate beyond that...

some of the chord changes are nice, though. i agree with the eels comparison.

this song really makes me think that billy needs to just grab his acoustic and get back to basics. not only would it help him avoid embarrassing midi harpsichord garbage, but it would be conducive to pared down recordings and quick release times. get someone good, like lisa, on keys, let jeff handle most (or all) of the electric guitar, sack byrne, get a real drummer, and make some grown-up music.

oh yeah, and get a producer!

schaadow
09-15-2010, 12:55 AM
spangled would be a respectable song if released on an album of other tunes, but releasing it as a standalone leaves it open to scrutiny. imagine if he did this with mellon collie and people waited a 2 months to hear we only come out at night. i like what he is doing, but this is one of the flaws with it. when you release one song every couple months it has to be important or it's a bust. you can't just drop a playful meaningless song. that's a recipe for failure.

rudi
09-15-2010, 01:34 AM
You know what's a great recipe for failure?

Writing shit music

schaadow
09-15-2010, 02:35 AM
zing!

Cool As Ice Cream
09-15-2010, 03:37 AM
15. MonteLDS - 9:33 am // Tuesday, September 14, 2010

I like it a lot. some points remind me a Beatles sound.

The length of the song reminds me of what Billy brought up at Sac.

He mention how some radio station was editing songs and that it was very controversial. They were cutting out guitar solos and stuff to make the song shorter, because they found that people would change the radio station in under 3 mins.

Billy then said that maybe songs in the future will only be verse chorus verse chorus verse and 2 mins long… a hint that perhaps i just now picked up on
“Spangled” available*for*download Hipsters United (http://blog.hipstersunited.com/2010/09/14/spangled-available-for-download/)

Rider
09-15-2010, 03:44 AM
“Spangled” available*for*download Hipsters United (http://blog.hipstersunited.com/2010/09/14/spangled-available-for-download/)


They have actually stopped doing this. They did it for the past 30 years but now that everything at radio stations is automated they no longer seem to do it. I know I now hear parts of songs that had been edited of radio edits and I never they were there.

Spira|_
09-15-2010, 06:26 AM
Each time I listen to this shit I get scare at 1:32 because of the drums. WTF is that thing?

megalomano
09-15-2010, 07:21 AM
its a fucking bad drummer in a fake band playing shitty music about God....

Kahlo
09-15-2010, 08:19 AM
and butterflies. Don't forget the butterflies.

Ihaguitar
09-15-2010, 08:54 AM
Each time I listen to this shit I get scare at 1:32 because of the drums. WTF is that thing?

JC's whole career trumped at 1:32

Mike Byrne
09-15-2010, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the good reception guys. :)

The next song should be out sooner than it took this one

dustrock
09-15-2010, 01:51 PM
is the next song Fellowship Mike? Or is it Tom Tom?

any old classics coming live?

dean_r_koontz
09-15-2010, 02:26 PM
Mike?

CrabbMan
09-15-2010, 05:01 PM
I really don't get all of the complaints about the drums at 1:32. OK, it's simple. Is that really such a problem? Are there really no SP songs with Jimmy where he drums just a simple pattern for a half a second? Why no complaints about 1:42 and 1:54, where the fill just sounds weak? And by weak, I mean quiet or muffled--that could totally be mic issue, or it could be that each 'tap' isn't as clear and punctuated as it should be. Sorry that I don't know the jargon to describe drums.
Mmm, the more I listen, the more I wish I'd been present at one of the CA shows to judge for myself whether the dude can make a good show.

CrabbMan
09-15-2010, 05:32 PM
But to be clear, even at its technical best I don't think this song would be worth discussing in much detail. In that sense, it is Luna-like to me. I hope that this piece serves to stand as an element to portray the theme of Teargarden. By itself, the harpsicord(ish sounding instrument) stands out and makes the track Beatles-reminiscent. Within the context of the entire album I imagine this sound and the number overall to be a breather that keeps and helps to define the essence of the collective 44 tracks.

But I suppose in a few years we'll see whether this album keeps a cohesive theme, or if it just tracks the madness of a genius post-prime.

And butterflies.

slunken
09-15-2010, 05:36 PM
They don't fly, did you know that?

CrabbMan
09-15-2010, 05:40 PM
If they don't fly, then they're just caterpillars.

Mike Byrne
09-15-2010, 05:51 PM
is the next song Fellowship Mike? Or is it Tom Tom?

any old classics coming live?


I like the Fellowship, but at this point, it might be song that no one knows, so stay tuned. It could certainly change, though.

As for the classics, it's a bundle. I keep trying to talk Billy into playing some rarities! ;)

eyesofruby32
09-15-2010, 06:56 PM
Black Rider > everything Corgan has done in the last 10 years.

Good stuff, warped but intense.

Ihaguitar
09-15-2010, 07:01 PM
spangled would be a respectable song if released on an album of other tunes, but releasing it as a standalone leaves it open to scrutiny. imagine if he did this with mellon collie and people waited a 2 months to hear we only come out at night. i like what he is doing, but this is one of the flaws with it. when you release one song every couple months it has to be important or it's a bust. you can't just drop a playful meaningless song. that's a recipe for failure.

Exactly, he's hanging up his underwear in his front garden for everyone to see. Make a fucking album Billy you tool, then your delicates have somewhere to hide.

Eulogy
09-15-2010, 07:37 PM
Sounds like Desire...

aw hell nah

Desire is great.

dustrock
09-15-2010, 10:00 PM
nah, there's something about maybe the guitar tone and the "how I love your body" part at the end that definitely reminds me of Desire.

Thanks Mike, we'd love some rarities or even some other SD or MCIS (or any of the albums) tracks.

I think Billy is of the perception that the old fans only want to hear SD, but there's actually a huge number of great songs you guys could play that wouldn't be Bullet, Today or Disarm.

vanitycrieswhy
09-15-2010, 11:42 PM
on second listen, i like it. might be my favorite from teargarden so far, as its the most interesting, non 'pop' like song.

sounds like desire, cuz of the nice melody but the strained whiny vocals waay too prominent in the mix. also reminds me of pretty pretty star, but i agree that star sounds more lush in comparison.

this probably sounded much better on acoustic guitar or piano. can billy not afford a decent producer anymore?

Ball Sack Face
09-15-2010, 11:48 PM
Mike I do not enjoy your drumming at all. One might even say you ruin the music. One might even say you are ruining the smashing pumpkins, but I disagree. Billy is doing that

Anywho, lol again at 1:32. What a bad song

Kahlo
09-16-2010, 02:42 AM
If that actually is Mike then he is displaying a level of maturity and grace in the face of negativity that Corgan could learn something from!

aztec litany service
09-16-2010, 04:30 AM
I like the Fellowship, but at this point, it might be song that no one knows, so stay tuned. It could certainly change, though.

As for the classics, it's a bundle. I keep trying to talk Billy into playing some rarities! ;)

see if you can get him to play 'girl with the cruel face' [meaning the 12/14/01 version] sometime

i don't care if it's stupid and pointless to post this, the song should be played.

Rider
09-16-2010, 05:18 AM
see if you can get him to play 'girl with the cruel face' [meaning the 12/14/01 version] sometime

i don't care if it's stupid and pointless to post this, the song should be played.

Wow seeing that date I'm shocked by how long ago Zwan was. A decade since billy has done anything really worthwhile.,

Spira|_
09-16-2010, 01:25 PM
Spangled grew on me.
The melody is kinda cool.
But is not a hit definitely.

RenewRevive
09-16-2010, 01:50 PM
After listening to it a few more times the last couple days it is not totally awful; as a throwaway song it is ok, but no way should it be making it on an official release. again: where is the quality control?

applepwnz
09-16-2010, 02:14 PM
By itself, the harpsicord(ish sounding instrument) stands out and makes the track Beatles-reminiscent.

That's what I think every time I listen to this, otherwise it almost sounds like something from the Adore era to me for some reason. Probably my favorite track so far off of TBK

SpFission
09-16-2010, 02:33 PM
I like the last minute... the guitars are nice in parts as well, but they could be a touch louder.

dustrock
09-16-2010, 04:17 PM
some guy at the o-board was trying to tell me it's not the production or the mix, but simply that I didn't adjust my EQ to properly listen to TBK.

I tried telling him I use the same EQ for all SP albums, but he just didn't understand.

soniclovenoize
09-16-2010, 04:27 PM
some guy at the o-board was trying to tell me it's not the production or the mix, but simply that I didn't adjust my EQ to properly listen to TBK.

I tried telling him I use the same EQ for all SP albums, but he just didn't understand.

Dude, you don't know? Here's the recomended EQ pre-sets:

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/soniclovenoize/ituneseqbig.jpg

dean_r_koontz
09-16-2010, 04:35 PM
When did bills start to sing with vibrato? i don't think it's working.

dean_r_koontz
09-16-2010, 04:37 PM
After a second listen i think it's better than my first impression though. It's not bad.

dustrock
09-16-2010, 05:09 PM
it's not bad at all, I'd probably put in behind Song for a Song and Stitch.

I think if he was releasing these things faster, people wouldn't be complaining as much. Reminds me of something like "Neverlost" off Zeitgeist.

Not a terrible track, probably not one of the best album tracks, but fits in the album okay.

Ihaguitar
09-16-2010, 05:09 PM
Dude, you don't know? Here's the recomended EQ pre-sets:

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/soniclovenoize/ituneseqbig.jpg

Please tell him you shouldn't need to adjust EQ settings.

LaBelle
09-16-2010, 05:28 PM
neverlost is an absolute masterpiece compared to spangled...

SpFission
09-16-2010, 10:27 PM
neverlost is an absolute masterpiece compared to spangled...

lets not go crazy here.

rudi
09-16-2010, 11:06 PM
lets not go crazy here.

He isn't... compare anything on Zeitgeist to anything on TBK. The best TBK song < the worst Zeitgeist song, in my opinion.

paranoid
09-16-2010, 11:53 PM
He isn't... compare anything on Zeitgeist to anything on TBK. The best TBK song < the worst Zeitgeist song, in my opinion.


i don't know.. it doesn't get shittier than pomp and circumstances. oh wait.. it does.. and it's called widow wake my mind.

russian iha
09-17-2010, 12:17 AM
Why nobody trolls this Mike Byrne user, just in case he's real?

paranoid
09-17-2010, 12:23 AM
Why nobody trolls this Mike Byrne user, just in case he's real?

because he's not real. i caught him online while they were live on stage.

and i doubt he would go log into phoria while on break. imagine him getting caught by billy doing that? 'hey mike we're back on in.. wtf! how immoral and destructive! you're fired!'

rudi
09-17-2010, 12:53 AM
i don't know.. it doesn't get shittier than pomp and circumstances. oh wait.. it does.. and it's called widow wake my mind.

I actually like Pomp and Circumstances. It is one of the few Zeitgeist tracks I actually choose to listen to, along with Tarantula, That's The Way, and Ma Belle.

Ma Belle is actually a great song IMO. SP1 quality.

SpFission
09-17-2010, 01:29 AM
He isn't... compare anything on Zeitgeist to anything on TBK. The best TBK song < the worst Zeitgeist song, in my opinion.

For God and Country,
Cmon Lets go
Starz

are probably worse than anything on TBK

I think Spangled sounds like a song that could be on The Future Embrace, but one of the stronger tracks.

samuel redman
09-17-2010, 01:31 AM
i would love to run over mike byrne in a steamroller, feet first

samuel redman
09-17-2010, 01:32 AM
seriously the songs are subpar at best but he absolutely wrecks them

Spira|_
09-17-2010, 06:53 AM
True Mike drumming is really poor.
I just listen randomly to Doomsday Clock on youtube and God! Jimmy was such freaking unique and good!
...

soniclovenoize
09-17-2010, 07:42 AM
because he's not real. i caught him online while they were live on stage.

and i doubt he would go log into phoria while on break. imagine him getting caught by billy doing that? 'hey mike we're back on in.. wtf! how immoral and destructive! you're fired!'

I admit it! I got trickrolled! :D

Excellent troll.

RenewRevive
09-17-2010, 11:24 AM
For God and Country,
Cmon Lets go
Starz

are probably worse than anything on TBK

For God and Country should have been acoustic a la Zeitgeist. Come On Let's Go > BTL but i agree is a weak track. Starz is unfairly maligned; lose the first few seconds and it is one of the best things Billy's done since Machina.

killtrocity
09-17-2010, 03:17 PM
1st


Eat shit and die

killtrocity
09-17-2010, 03:22 PM
fucking awful production, the song itself is just average. drumming is uninspired, not that the writing is groundbreaking.

like someone else said, the chord progression is kind of cool (really, that's what it's come down to with this "band"?)

lyrics are ok

just ok

is anything from old baldy ever gonna be awesome again?

4/10

Eulogy
09-17-2010, 03:47 PM
All of these songs make GLOW and even FOL seem pretty awesome in comparison.

dustrock
09-17-2010, 03:58 PM
FOL came on while I was biking yesterday. The chorus is better than I remembered.


Edit:

Spangled & Tom Tom live;

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Eulogy
09-17-2010, 04:29 PM
I just listened to Adore (on Blank Page right now).

How the fuck did this happen

samuel redman
09-17-2010, 04:33 PM
ive always really liked FOL

cjs42079
09-17-2010, 04:33 PM
Tom Tom = yaaawwwn

cjs42079
09-17-2010, 04:34 PM
Did a lossless FOL ever surface?

cork_soaker
09-17-2010, 04:43 PM
impossible

Ihaguitar
09-17-2010, 05:19 PM
The interesting thing is how much these songs are getting analysed. If this was a new artist releasing this stuff nobody would pay any attention because the songs are so unremarkable. Billy is actually getting a lot of constructive criticism but chooses to ignore all of it. In his mind he's still king. Is he happy that way? Personally, I think judging by his repeated outbursts towards fans and critics, he's in denial. If he was truly happy he wouldn't keep going on about it, it's as if he's trying to convince everybody he's happy all the time. Way too unnatural.

Corganist
09-17-2010, 05:35 PM
I don't know if I'm too crazy about the newer version of Tom Tom. I may be a Mike Byrne apologist, but I don't think his drumming added anything to the song whatsoever and might have actually made it worse. But the same goes for the stuff Billy added too. The song was just about perfect as it was. I don't think it needed a new bridge or anything else added. But I'll withhold full judgment until I hear a version that doesn't sound like it was recorded from inside the kick drum.

But it is good that the song is being played live, because that likely means it's the next song to be released (maybe sooner than later?). Hopefully they'll play it in KC next weekend.

pale_princess
09-17-2010, 05:36 PM
sounds like a beatles abortion

cork_soaker
09-17-2010, 05:36 PM
way too unnatural

cork_soaker
09-17-2010, 05:38 PM
The interesting thing is how much these songs are getting analysed.

cork_soaker
09-17-2010, 05:38 PM
If this was a new artist releasing this stuff nobody would pay any attention because the songs are so unremarkable

cork_soaker
09-17-2010, 05:39 PM
. Billy is actually getting a lot of constructive criticism but chooses to ignore all of it. In his mind he's still king.

cork_soaker
09-17-2010, 05:39 PM
Is he happy that way? Personally, I think judging by his repeated outbursts towards fans and critics, he's in denial.

cork_soaker
09-17-2010, 05:39 PM
If he was truly happy he wouldn't keep going on about it, it's as if he's trying to convince everybody he's happy all the time.

cork_soaker
09-17-2010, 05:40 PM
just sum thoghts heehee

dustrock
09-17-2010, 06:18 PM
that deserves a ftw

New Art Rioter
09-17-2010, 07:32 PM
Hmm, providing a major studio fuck up doesn't occur, Tom Tom should easily be the best from this project so far, actually quite looking forwards to it!

rudi
09-17-2010, 08:29 PM
Hmm, providing a major studio fuck up doesn't occur, Tom Tom should easily be the best from this project so far, actually quite looking forwards to it!

I agree, I like Tom Tom, but "providing a major studio fuck up doesn't occur" is like playing roulette with only 1 blank and 5 bullets.

dustrock
09-17-2010, 10:15 PM
I like Spangled live better. For some reason his vocals work better I think.

redbull
09-17-2010, 10:19 PM
Tom Tom sounds like an LCD Soundsystem song title

pale_princess
09-17-2010, 11:04 PM
tom tom was one of the 3 ninjas.

applepwnz
09-17-2010, 11:43 PM
I just went back and listened to the live version of Spangled, and I actually think the studio version is way better (that's pretty rare with me) In the live version, it seemed like he was trying to hard to be emotional with the vocals, the studio version seems much more natural

BlissedandGone2
09-18-2010, 05:36 AM
tom tom was one of the 3 ninjas.


that's tum tum

DiscoJon
09-18-2010, 05:45 AM
Spangled is garbage. He couldn't rip off the Beatles any harder if he tried.

Listen to this gem instead, suckers.

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rudi
09-18-2010, 01:11 PM
Spangled is garbage. He couldn't rip off the Beatles any harder if he tried.

Listen to this gem instead, suckers.

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God, makes me fucking sad, this song is pretty gorgeous and he writes it for someone else?

This makes me think that Billy hasn't actually lost it talent-wise, he has just put himself in such a bad place that he is prohibiting HIMSELF from making anything good for SP. He needs to dump the name and just be BC and just write songs.

stripes
09-19-2010, 12:28 AM
God, makes me fucking sad, this song is pretty gorgeous and he writes it for someone else?

This makes me think that Billy hasn't actually lost it talent-wise, he has just put himself in such a bad place that he is prohibiting HIMSELF from making anything good for SP. He needs to dump the name and just be BC and just write songs.

lol you're a faggot

rudi
09-19-2010, 01:29 AM
lol you're a faggot

lol dude

Rider
09-19-2010, 01:35 AM
Spangled is garbage. He couldn't rip off the Beatles any harder if he tried.

Listen to this gem instead, suckers.

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The fucking things on youtube now. Seriously fuck you Billy.

BlissedandGone2
09-19-2010, 02:09 AM
this isnt for real is it

Phoenix Down
09-19-2010, 10:29 AM
It had this short moment of Beatles greatness, but then it started to suck really hard again. The "tangled in your body" part makes me cringe and I swear I have heard him use that vocal melody about 10 times on TFE already.

Phoenix Down
09-19-2010, 10:37 AM
Hmm, providing a major studio fuck up doesn't occur, Tom Tom should easily be the best from this project so far, actually quite looking forwards to it!

Which is pretty sad, cause Tom Tom is a decent song, but certainly not a great one.

stripes
09-19-2010, 11:44 AM
someone post a vid of tom tom

Spira|_
09-19-2010, 12:38 PM
After listening Spangled for some days... well suprisingly it grown a lot on me. My fav SP2+3 song maybe.
And the studio is better than live.

Give it a try!
It is fucking curious this was the song I hate more at the first listening.

Kahlo
09-19-2010, 02:02 PM
what is your first language?

I don't mind it so much now.

EyesOfAJackal
09-19-2010, 07:50 PM
someone post a vid of tom tom

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rudi
09-19-2010, 11:37 PM
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You just know that in Tom Tom's studio version, "Sha-la-la laaa" will somehow have become 85% of the lyrics

slunken
09-20-2010, 01:33 PM
Why is everyone into Tom Tom? Song is awful, like a Pearl Jam/Beatles hybrid.

Sebastian
09-20-2010, 03:16 PM
Why is everyone into Tom Tom? Song is awful, like a Nickelback/Lady Gaga hybrid.

Fixed that for ya.

Astur
09-20-2010, 03:34 PM
i really liked full band soot and stars

lost in the woods demo is great so it's only logical he gave it to a non-stop cocksucking hard machine like taproot for them to break its ass and cover it with feces while a happy willy watches

samuel redman
09-20-2010, 04:09 PM
i will give this project 4 more songs, if none of the ten are even decent, ...

eyesofruby32
09-20-2010, 04:47 PM
i will give this project 4 more songs, if none of the ten are even decent, ...

Will you abandon?

samuel redman
09-20-2010, 04:52 PM
i wish

eyesofruby32
09-20-2010, 04:57 PM
I might be with you on this. Corgan had better start playing/writing real SP psychedelia/rock, not some of the bubblegum we've been subjected to so far, for the most part.

Go Phils.

samuel redman
09-20-2010, 05:29 PM
i am uncontrollably excited for tonight

somaziro
09-20-2010, 06:20 PM
If anyone cares they soundchecked a new song, anthem with fast synth loop ala muse, pretty good. Lyrics to chorus are something like "are you with us, are you against us, are you with us tonight" new to me at least might be one of the songs from the open soundchecks from awhile back

Corganist
09-20-2010, 06:26 PM
If anyone cares they soundchecked a new song, anthem with fast synth loop ala muse, pretty good. Lyrics to chorus are something like "are you with us, are you against us, are you with us tonight" new to me at least might be one of the songs from the open soundchecks from awhile back

From the lyrics, sounds like it's "The Fellowship" from the Spirits in the Sky shows last summer. The studio version is supposed to be released next month on a soundtrack.

somaziro
09-20-2010, 06:28 PM
Might be but sounds totally diff from anything i remember, but i didnt listen to the boots much

Ihaguitar
09-20-2010, 06:32 PM
If anyone cares they soundchecked a new song, anthem with fast synth loop ala muse, pretty good. Lyrics to chorus are something like "are you with us, are you against us, are you with us tonight" new to me at least might be one of the songs from the open soundchecks from awhile back

How original. He's like that at every concert these days is he not?

Corganist
09-20-2010, 06:50 PM
Might be but sounds totally diff from anything i remember, but i didnt listen to the boots much

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This was what it sounded like last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if they beefed it up quite a bit though, considering it's on the soundtrack for a teen vampire show on the CW or the WB or whatever the hell network it is putting out that kind of stuff out nowadays.

somaziro
09-20-2010, 06:54 PM
Ya thats it

dustrock
09-20-2010, 10:32 PM
yeah, it's been confirmed to have the 8-bit keyboards, and apparently Nicole sings a verse as well.

LaBelle
09-20-2010, 11:44 PM
Nicole sings a verse as well.

this is interesting

rudi
09-21-2010, 01:17 AM
Why is everyone into Tom Tom? Song is awful, like a Pearl Jam/Beatles hybrid.

I think that echoey, spacey guitar stuff in Tom Tom is totally Pumpkins sound, think SIYL or somethin. I don't get the Beatles or Pearl Jam comparison.

slunken
09-21-2010, 01:33 AM
I don't get the Beatles or Pearl Jam comparison.

it's because its sucks

Spira|_
09-21-2010, 07:14 AM
Spangled luv luv luv

*God how I love you so...!

rudi
09-21-2010, 12:48 PM
it's because its sucks

I have no doubt it will suck once it enters the studio, so I probably agree with you.

iPumpkin
09-24-2010, 01:04 PM
I have listened to this one a bit more. I actually like it. The length really helps as there is no repeating la la & oh oh & cmon cmons.

aztec litany service
09-25-2010, 04:15 AM
i was surprised that i like spangled live since i really didn't like the studio version at all.

Starla
09-25-2010, 06:41 AM
This song has no depth to it. The lyrics are so repetitive it's just generic. It doesn't tell a story or invoke any sort of emotion. I can't connect with this song on any level..... but at least I have this.


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and this

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