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Catherine Wheel
09-05-2010, 11:14 AM
Which era from the original band 88 - 00 contains the best drumming by Jimmy?

I actually prefer Machina as far as his playing is concerned. Along with Stand Inside Your Love and Glass and the Ghost Children there are a good number of Machina 2 tracks with amazing drumming. (Lucky 13, Blue Skies Bring Tears, both versions of Cash Car Star, Real Love, Home, Slow Dawn)

eyesofruby32
09-05-2010, 11:20 AM
Torn... either MCIS or Machina. His drumming is awesome in MCIS, it's just buried at times under tons of guitar. The drumming on Machina booms, incredible stuff.

Gish08
09-05-2010, 11:59 AM
Siamese Dream and, believe it or not, SP2. Superchrist, Gossamer, etc. - he was in top form.

whorebucket
09-05-2010, 12:13 PM
of all the sp eras, it would be zeitgeist.
but we're talking sp1, so i'm going to have to go with siamese dream.

pineapple*soul
09-05-2010, 12:32 PM
Each album showcases different aspects of his drumming personality.
Gish has my personal favourite Jimmy drumming

paranoid
09-05-2010, 01:29 PM
machina era jimmy is top notch.

btw.. happy 10 year anniversary to machina II

Ihaguitar
09-05-2010, 02:42 PM
of all the sp eras, it would be zeitgeist.
but we're talking sp1, so i'm going to have to go with siamese dream.


Ooh I cant agree. Whilst his drumming on Zeitgeist is technically excellent it is very mechanical and lacks soul.

I cant pick a particular era but here's some songs:


Bury Me
Window Paine
Quiet
Hummer
Geek USA
Porcelina
XYU
Tonite Tonite
I of the Mourning
Stand Inside Your Love

pineapple*soul
09-05-2010, 03:53 PM
Zwan deserves a shout

Slurpee
09-05-2010, 03:55 PM
I'm going with MCIS, I think it mixes both his technical skill and his most emotional playing. After that, Machina, then Big Z and Siamese Dream, which both, to me, sound slightly too perfect.

But it's hard because song quality and production influence me, especially if you are trying to answer your exact question, "which era best showcases Jimmy's drumming," not, "which era did Jimmy drum the best during?" For your question, I think it has to be MCIS.

Slurpee
09-05-2010, 03:56 PM
We're talking studio, right? Because live he just got better and better. Zwan is a major contender.

duovamp
09-05-2010, 04:23 PM
I'd have to say it's the An Evening with The Smashing Pumpkins tour.

T&T
09-05-2010, 04:42 PM
gish. ah ah.

Ihaguitar
09-05-2010, 04:51 PM
I'm going with MCIS, I think it mixes both his technical skill and his most emotional playing. After that, Machina, then Big Z and Siamese Dream, which both, to me, sound slightly too perfect.


Siamese Dream is perfect in a good way- it just sounds well practiced, Zeitgeist isnt as it seems to lack emotion - too mechanical, like Jimmy was striving for technical supremacy and ignored the songs.

I agree with those who say he was good on Zwan.

croPUMPKINS
09-05-2010, 04:57 PM
I personaly think Jimmy sounded best after that era, to be more precise - Zeitgeist era where a lot of songs were based on drums eg. SC, USA, Doomsday and of course, Gossamer.

exactlythesame
09-05-2010, 05:25 PM
Siamese Dream is perfect in a good way- it just sounds well practiced, Zeitgeist isnt as it seems to lack emotion - too mechanical, like Jimmy was striving for technical supremacy and ignored the songs.

I agree with those who say he was good on Zwan.

he didn't ignore the songs

the songs ignored him

Monet LSD
09-05-2010, 09:55 PM
Teargarden By Kaleidyscope era

Ihaguitar
09-06-2010, 02:07 AM
he didn't ignore the songs

the songs ignored him

Could be right there.

Starla
09-06-2010, 04:26 AM
2:36 - one of my favorites

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Sonic Johnny
09-06-2010, 05:50 AM
This is a really hard one. Jimmy has had a whole heap of tracks he has just completely owned (Geek, Galapagos, TEG, Cash Car, Goassamer), and they tend to be pretty far apart in the band's catalogue.

To me, his ultimate performance is this:

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fill at 3:57 = woax

jimmy drevpile
09-06-2010, 06:28 AM
I'm going with MCIS, I think it mixes both his technical skill and his most emotional playing. After that, Machina, then Big Z and Siamese Dream, which both, to me, sound slightly too perfect.

But it's hard because song quality and production influence me, especially if you are trying to answer your exact question, "which era best showcases Jimmy's drumming," not, "which era did Jimmy drum the best during?" For your question, I think it has to be MCIS.

We're talking studio, right? Because live he just got better and better.

^

Gish08
09-06-2010, 08:13 PM
I hope Jimmy does something else besides "This". Really, he deserves to be in a band that sells records and has a successful live show. He could easily play for Led Zeppelin during another reunion tour, for example... seems like a long shot but he deserves that level of fame, he truly does...

EyesOfAJackal
09-06-2010, 08:30 PM
This is a really hard one. Jimmy has had a whole heap of tracks he has just completely owned (Geek, Galapagos, TEG, Cash Car, Goassamer), and they tend to be pretty far apart in the band's catalogue.

To me, his ultimate performance is this:

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fill at 3:57 = woax

Excellent choice, the Conan arms at the start say it all


Any list of his accomplishments has to ******* Cash Car Star... the drums are almost the lead instrument in that song

Also, the gentle cymbal swells in the intro to Porcelina with the ocean wave-like quality, the explosion into the guitar distortion, the primal jungle beat of the verses... wow, the drums add all kinds of accent to that song

EyesOfAJackal
09-06-2010, 08:33 PM
I hope Jimmy does something else besides "This". Really, he deserves to be in a band that sells records and has a successful live show. He could easily play for Led Zeppelin during another reunion tour, for example... seems like a long shot but he deserves that level of fame, he truly does...

For almost any other drummer this would be a silly fan-boy exaggeration, but you're spot on. He IS that good :banging:

EyesOfAJackal
09-06-2010, 08:42 PM
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Billy's voice is a little cringe-inducing here, but dang, those drums