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Kahlo
07-26-2010, 01:51 AM
Quinto left the project in recent months to pursue another job. I don't think they have currently found a replacement.

Any mention of this situation is deleted on the o-board in case you missed this one.

redbull
07-26-2010, 02:04 AM
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redbreegull
07-26-2010, 02:15 AM
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wHATcOLOR
07-26-2010, 02:25 AM
goodness gracious, are we to understand that frank "rat bastard" didn't get the job done? his intermittent string of useless emails all saying the same thing and reading like they were written by an 18 year old led me to believe this was going to be a professional job, top to bottom. well i never! *storms off in a huff*

Esty
07-26-2010, 02:28 AM
I wonder how much "leet" shit he fucking stole off bill.

Shallowed
07-26-2010, 02:40 AM
Cunt say I'm not surprised.

Cool As Ice Cream
07-26-2010, 02:47 AM
Quinto left the project in recent months to pursue another job. I don't think they have currently found a replacement.

Any mention of this situation is deleted on the o-board in case you missed this one.

i thought i read about this a couple of months ago on the o-board.

if it gets deleted on the o-board, it can get deleted here too. i've seen quinto-related posts disappear on netphoria before.

we should all work together, especially frank quinto, and make this a great year, by sharing all the stuff he took from the archives.

Fonzie
07-26-2010, 03:32 AM
woax, another bolly project falls by the wayside...

Astur
07-26-2010, 03:48 AM
Fuck. I really really wanted this project to happen in some way or another.

TuralyonW3
07-26-2010, 04:25 AM
woax, another bolly project falls by the wayside...

Yeah surprise of the fucking century.

Order 66
07-26-2010, 06:26 AM
my face is melted with shock. think I had a stroke...

rub_the_y
07-26-2010, 07:45 AM
that quinto fuck is already back over there at the fagboard trying to delete your posts kahole

RenewRevive
07-26-2010, 08:11 AM
well at least Quinto told us there's loads of great stuff in there....

:erm:

Corganist
07-26-2010, 08:59 AM
I wonder how much "leet" shit he fucking stole off bill.

I think this part makes me madder than the project falling apart. The fact that this guy of all people is going to be the only person who will ever hear most of what is archived is just stupid and sad.

mickyshambles
07-26-2010, 09:07 AM
KILL FRANK QUINTO KILL FRANK QUINTO KILL FRANK QUINTO KILL FRANK QUINTO KILL FRANK QUINTO KILL FRANK QUINTO KILL FRANK QUINTO KILL FRANK QUINTO





























ps don't ever come to my town, mutherfucker.

Kahlo
07-26-2010, 09:50 AM
Thread deleted, whitewash applied

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rub_the_y
07-26-2010, 10:00 AM
That Simon douche is such an asshole. When the fuck did he become an admin?

lucid_interval
07-26-2010, 10:08 AM
I wonder how much "leet" shit he fucking stole off bill.

this

T&T
07-26-2010, 12:15 PM
this isn't a surprise.

Spaldz
07-26-2010, 12:16 PM
What a wanker. (Quinto, not b0lly)

RockLobster
07-26-2010, 12:30 PM
I wonder how much "leet" shit he fucking stole off bill.

yeah i bet his new job is just selling old sp material. fucking rat faced bastard.

Spaldz
07-26-2010, 12:59 PM
Thread deleted, whitewash applied

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That thread is stupid, and also that Simon bloke seems to be a bit of a cunt. Its like punching a dead pony :dammit:

Panthalassa
07-26-2010, 01:04 PM
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I speculate that everything deleted was fact.

Esty
07-26-2010, 02:43 PM
I think this part makes me madder than the project falling apart. The fact that this guy of all people is going to be the only person who will ever hear most of what is archived is just stupid and sad.

Well, that part makes me happy. He's a rat bastard for doing it, but the fact you, davin, monte, and all other bill apologists will never hear it, thats great shit. Fuck you corganist you stupid fuck.

paranoid
07-26-2010, 03:05 PM
this archive ordeal was dead the second they implied they didn't know what the fuck they were doing... which was pretty early on in the project.

and this is exactly where teargarden is going.

Corganist
07-26-2010, 03:18 PM
this archive ordeal was dead the second they implied they didn't know what the fuck they were doing... which was pretty early on in the project.

and this is exactly where teargarden is going.

How do you figure? The archive project never got any further than "let's have one guy listen to some stuff and write a couple totally information-free e-mails to fans." Teargarden, even such as it is, can't be anywhere near the same kind of failure. It at least got off the ground. It's one of the few crazy ideas in Billy's entire career that he has talked about and then actually tangibly followed through with. Whereas the archive just goes on the pile with the era tours, the Metro DVD, the expanded re-releases of albums, etc. that he talked about and never even really tried to do anything with.

And really, the only way Teargarden gets dropped or fades away the way this archive idea did is if Billy has a major label whisper sweet nothings in his ear about them putting in the kind of money and promotion effort that he thinks he deserves for a major label album these days. Since I don't think that's gonna happen (no matter how bad Billy wants it), he's gonna stick with the Teargarden model.

AndySlash
07-26-2010, 03:22 PM
this is unbelievable!

lucid_interval
07-26-2010, 04:04 PM
is it true he got people kicked out of zwan shows so he could tape or was that just a rumour??

paranoid
07-26-2010, 04:23 PM
I figure via experience. he's already stated in interviews he's not exactly sure what he's doing and how this is all going to figure out. 5 songs in and only the 5,000 or so people that give a fuck about him on a daily basis are listening to the new material.. and evidence shows that irks him. I really don't think he's going to make it to #44, or EP #11.

wHATcOLOR
07-26-2010, 04:40 PM
a bold prediction from a modern day nostradamus /\

Caine Walker
07-26-2010, 05:37 PM
paranoid, i bet you fifteen dollars that he finishes it. if at any point he calls it quits before it is finished, PM me with your info and i'll send you dinero. but if we get to the end and he finishes this monstrosity, you owe me money.

do we have a deal?

paranoid
07-26-2010, 06:28 PM
i'm not putting money on this nor will i take money over this. but i will stand by what i believe. it's not going to get done. there are way too many things that can stand in the way of him recording 36 more songs. it already took him nearly a year to record the first 8.

but if i'm proved wrong, i'll be glad to eat a crow sammich.

redbull
07-26-2010, 06:36 PM
is it true he got people kicked out of zwan shows so he could tape or was that just a rumour??

there are a few stories about him getting people booted for running FoB, but never from the section

you could be thinking of that whole fiasco at the billy solo show in april 04 though

i will add that he definitely didn't do anything to assist tapers trying to get into the venue (which wasn't allowing recording) at the Davenport 08 show

Caine Walker
07-26-2010, 06:56 PM
i'm not putting money on this nor will i take money over this. but i will stand by what i believe. it's not going to get done. there are way too many things that can stand in the way of him recording 36 more songs. it already took him nearly a year to record the first 8.

but if i'm proved wrong, i'll be glad to eat a crow sammich.

pussy.

paranoid
07-26-2010, 07:22 PM
pussy.

hey, if you want to give me money when I win, go for it. but i'm not giving you shit.

Caine Walker
07-26-2010, 07:24 PM
fiiiiiiiiiine.

Caine Walker
07-26-2010, 07:25 PM
who's got bigger balls than paranoid? corganist, i'd be willing to flip the terms of the bet for you.

paranoid
07-26-2010, 07:50 PM
lol.

tell you what, let's both go in on he's not going to finish, against corganist. $100. we would both owe him $50 if he wins. if we win he owes us $100.

Caine Walker
07-26-2010, 07:58 PM
i'd be into this.

Trotskilicious
07-26-2010, 09:48 PM
i got a grand on mancini in the sixth round

nofix
07-26-2010, 09:57 PM
What was the purpose of the archive project? I read about it what seems like two or three years ago, but never paid much attention.

Was it just a bunch of live recordings that were going to be released or some shit?

redbull
07-26-2010, 10:00 PM
$300 studio access is the name of the game

Trotskilicious
07-26-2010, 10:04 PM
yes basically it enabled frank quinto to pirate as much stuff for himself as possible. stop me if i got it wrong but basically FQ bamboozled his way into access to the "archives" whatever that is, seemingly Billy's Lock-N-Store somewhere in suburban Los Angeles, and then didn't release anything. He's already known to be a horder so...

i don't really understand the ethos or way of thinking here but i'm willing to bet it has something to do with latent homosexuality combined with a depraved, sociopathic mindset.

Trotskilicious
07-26-2010, 10:06 PM
i mean why keep someone's garage crap to yourself? have a yard sale wtf

redbull
07-26-2010, 10:38 PM
i mean why keep someone's garage crap to yourself? have a yard sale wtf

after he releases his jimmy chamberlin complex soundboards

redbull
07-26-2010, 10:39 PM
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this is one of the funniest things i've seen in a while

Trotskilicious
07-26-2010, 10:58 PM
i apparently have problems with my registration

hey whatever happened to carapatricia is she still fighting the good fight against negative fans over at the SP land MB paradise

redbull
07-26-2010, 10:59 PM
even the SP board idiots realized it

Corganist
07-26-2010, 11:11 PM
there are a few stories about him getting people booted for running FoB, but never from the section

you could be thinking of that whole fiasco at the billy solo show in april 04 though

i will add that he definitely didn't do anything to assist tapers trying to get into the venue (which wasn't allowing recording) at the Davenport 08 show

There was the whole Hideout thing too where he prevented other people from taping and sat on his recordings of the shows. To this day I think that was when Zwan first lost its luster. They had been so open with the fans to that point.

lol.

tell you what, let's both go in on he's not going to finish, against corganist. $100. we would both owe him $50 if he wins. if we win he owes us $100.

It depends on the terms. Even I'm not confident enough to think that Billy is gonna stick with the current release model for 3 or 4 more years. But I do tend to think he'll "finish" the project one way or the other. I'd be willing to bet that he won't let it go the way of the Chicago songs where he just puts everything in a box and forgets about it mid project...but I can't put my money on him releasing 39 more songs for download.

paranoid
07-26-2010, 11:21 PM
well then it's a bust. none of us are confident this is going to get finished.

TuralyonW3
07-27-2010, 12:38 AM
Billy obviously wants to hold off putting out the archives as long as possible because once they are out he'll feel like SP isn't a relevant current band anymore and kill himself or something.

But goddammit I wanna hear SBD recordings of all the Bodies performances.

Esty
07-27-2010, 03:25 AM
who's got bigger balls than paranoid? corganist, i'd be willing to flip the terms of the bet for you.

My baby nephew has bigger balls than paranoid. Brain too. I however will take you up on this. $15 bucks he does not finish it. All 44 songs.

hey whatever happened to carapatricia is she still fighting the good fight against negative fans over at the SP land MB paradise

When shes not busy sucking some strangers dick for kicks. Fucking hoodrat.

.but I can't put my money on him releasing 39 more songs for download.

Some superfan you are. Fucking pussy.

Caine Walker
07-27-2010, 08:18 AM
My baby nephew has bigger balls than paranoid. Brain too. I however will take you up on this. $15 bucks he does not finish it. All 44 songs.
rad, we have a deal. http://forums.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon14.gif

mickyshambles
07-27-2010, 11:03 AM
paranoid pussied out. lol

Hypno+Raygun
07-27-2010, 01:52 PM
I participated in the original thread that was deleted on the O Board.

I found our on Frank's facebook he is now working for the North Arizona Park/Forest rangers..?.. Not a joke. There were a lot of pictures on his site, which I linked to from the message.

They deleted the entire thread and you can not see the photos on Frank's FB site any longer.

Take what you will from that.

nofix
07-27-2010, 06:51 PM
Ok, so what was the purpose of the archives project? Soundboard recordings of all shows, and what else?

T&T
07-27-2010, 08:34 PM
Ok, so what was the purpose of the archives project? Soundboard recordings of all shows, and what else?
soundboards,
unreleased studio tracks,
alt versions,
studio video,
documentaries
show posters
artwork drafts
in progress lyric sheets
fucking around photography
bonus material

could've been fun.

Musica
07-27-2010, 08:44 PM
soundboards,
unreleased studio tracks,
alt versions,
studio video,
documentaries
show posters
artwork drafts
in progress lyric sheets
fucking around photography
bonus material

and nostalgia for the old backstage passes, selling it for 30 bucks each.

nofix
07-27-2010, 09:11 PM
Crazy. I wonder if Billy is looking for someone to replace the guy that quit? Seems like a crazy amount of awesome stuff here ...

themadcaplaughs
07-27-2010, 10:07 PM
Only official things I can remember where the backstage passes and occasional piece of equipment sold on ebay, and requests for pictures of the band from 1989-1992.

Astur
07-28-2010, 09:45 AM
We could hire a hitman to take the man down. I bet a lot of unreleased shit would start getting marketed to cash in on him.

lol wouldn't it be funny if Courtney somehow got the rights or something so after many years of legal battles between her and Chamberlin we would get a half-assed rarities 3CD+DVD boxset entitled "Rat in a Cage"

jimmy drevpile
07-28-2010, 03:33 PM
after he releases his jimmy chamberlin complex soundboards

Yeah right

duovamp
07-28-2010, 05:07 PM
i got a grand on mancini in the sixth round

Is this a wager that the sixth disk will be nothing but Peter Gunn covers?

Trotskilicious
07-28-2010, 08:06 PM
no, warren zevon

Trotskilicious
07-28-2010, 08:08 PM
soundboards,
unreleased studio tracks,
alt versions,
studio video,
documentaries
show posters
artwork drafts
in progress lyric sheets
fucking around photography
bonus material

could've been fun.

don't forget about costumes!!!

applepwnz
07-28-2010, 09:32 PM
Small SP archive project update: had meetings today about progress on transfer of pre-Gish live tapes + also completion of Chicago Kid album
30 minutes ago via txt

from Bill's twitter

KManXC
07-28-2010, 09:39 PM
from Bill's twitter

Proof that Borgan reads Hatephoria and is messing with us?

redbull
07-28-2010, 09:42 PM
what the fuck is "chicago kid"?

xyumachine
07-28-2010, 09:43 PM
Chicago Songs

Trotskilicious
07-28-2010, 09:52 PM
he had meetings about progress lol

brendo_91
07-28-2010, 10:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/G80Kj.gif

stumpycat
07-28-2010, 11:06 PM
^ true

Also, I find it amusing that Billy uses the term, "pre-Gish." I thought that was a fan community label.

aomb1979
07-29-2010, 12:31 AM
^ true

Also, I find it amusing that Billy uses the term, "pre-Gish." I thought that was a fan community label.

Well, what else would he use?

applepwnz
07-29-2010, 12:35 AM
what the fuck is "chicago kid"?

fucked if I know, but at least he's still thinking about the archives

Cool As Ice Cream
07-29-2010, 05:48 AM
he had meetings about progress lol

the guy must be ill. he forgot to announce the announcement.

Corganist
07-29-2010, 01:39 PM
from Bill's twitter

Well, at least he's having meetings about things that actually sound like they'd be interesting to hear. Unheard live pre-Gish material sounds awesome. I was worried that the first things to come of it would be things we already have in good quality, like the oven-baked Reel Time Sessions or something like that.

nofix
07-29-2010, 03:05 PM
fucking awesome.

what's sad is that if there was any unreleased material from pre-gish - machina era, people would buy that in a heartbeat over the new stuff.

Gish08
07-31-2010, 08:39 AM
Good for Quinto. He's smart enough to realize even the core fanbase doesn't give a fuck anymore