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BlissedandGone2
07-21-2010, 11:14 AM
If this is already up, sorry, but I'm too tired to check:

THE SMASHING PUMPKINS TO PERFORM BENEFIT CONCERT TUESDAY JULY 27 AT CHICAGO'S METRO FOR MATTHEW LEONE, BASSIST FROM MADINA LAKE

THE SMASHING PUMPKINS will perform a benefit concert next Tuesday, July 27 at Chicago's Metro to raise money for medical care for Matthew Leone, bassist for Chicago band Medina Lake. Tickets will go on sale Wednesday July 21 at noon and the information is below.

Last month, Madina Lake bassist Matthew Leone was hospitalized with severe brain trauma after intervening to stop a woman he passed on the street from being beaten by her husband. Matthew had left twin brother Nathan's Chicago apartment to meet a friend at a bar a few blocks away when he walked past the man beating his wife on the 1300th block of Ohio St. Even though the attacker was twice his size, Matthew immediately intervened and managed to subdue the attacker but as he waited for police to arrive, the attacker suddenly turned on Matthew, beating him severely. He then walked away with his wife, leaving Matthew unconscious on the street. Matthew was taken to UIC Hospital for emergency brain surgery wherein a third of his skull was removed to alleviate swelling. He's currently in stable condition awaiting an additional brain surgery to reapply the removed portion of his skull. Alleged suspect Justin Pivec is currently charged with Aggravated Battery Causing Serious Bodily Harm and out on bail pending a forthcoming hearing. As a musician, Matthew spends most of his life on tour and unfortunately his medical insurance had lapsed just two months prior to the incident. Friends of the band and the Chicago music community are rallying to help provide for Matthew's medical needs.

There will be a raffle for tickets. Individuals can enter the raffle as many times as they wish for $10 each entry. A majority of the venue will be sold to raffle winners. Each winner will receive two tickets to the concert. Tickets are not transferable and winners must show ID matching their raffle entry. Raffle tickets will be available for sale through Metro website only beginning Wednesday July 21 at noon at http://www.metrochicago.com. The raffle will end at 2pm on Saturday July 24, 2010, and winners will be notified via email at 5pm on Saturday July 24, 2010.

There will also be a very limited amount of balcony VIP tickets put onsale for those fans who want to make a larger donation and ensure entry into this special event for $100 each. Balcony VIP tickets will go on sale Wednesday July 21 at noon.


Additionally, a limited amount of soundcheck VIP tickets will be available for $500 each. The soundcheck VIP event (approximately 30 minutes), set for the late afternoon, includes a meet and greet/photo with the Pumpkins and merchandise items, plus a seat at a table in the balcony for the show; this package is priced at $500 per person. Soundcheck VIP tickets will be available Wednesday July 21 at noon at http://www.metrochicago.com.


All proceeds from the raffle and concert will go to the Matthew Leone Fund at Sweet Relief. Sweet Relief Musicians Fund is a non profit 501(c)(3) organization provides financial assistance to all types of career musicians who are struggling to make ends meet while facing illness, disability, or age-related problems. For more information on Sweet Relief, visit Sweet Relief (http://www.sweetrelief.org).


Metro is the club where, on October 5, 1988, the Pumpkins truly landed on the musical map. They also chose the venue for a farewell concert on December 2, 2000, a four-hour-long show that featured 38 songs spanning the group's career at that time. The Pumpkins have a long history of supporting other Chicago musicians.


"Matthew and I have been completely overwhelmed by the outpouring of compassion and support during this impossible time. It has proved that there are far more amazing people in the world than any other kind and we're grateful beyond words," said Nathan Leone, Matthew's twin brother and Madina Lake bandmate. "Being among the biggest Smashing Pumpkins fans in the world, we still haven't processed the fact that they are contributing in such an unprecedented way. Not only is this going to be a monumental event in our lives but more importantly it's a massive statement against domestic violence, violence against women and violence in general."

Kahlo
07-21-2010, 12:42 PM
woah. crazy, but nice of Billy to help. $500 to meet Sp though...

Pizza Club
07-21-2010, 01:04 PM
I'm going, I did the cheaper VIP thing.

Pizza Club
07-21-2010, 01:14 PM
VIP is sold out

BlissedandGone2
07-21-2010, 01:22 PM
too bad im not in chicago anymore

Rickpat12
07-21-2010, 05:31 PM
Did the raffle. Have my fingers crossed.

New Art Rioter
07-21-2010, 05:37 PM
Surprised there's not more discussion about this... SP at the Metro! Must be fairly heavy emotional baggage for Corgan to come back there

Gish08
07-21-2010, 06:13 PM
Maybe Billy will play XYU. :rofl:

lucid_interval
07-21-2010, 09:02 PM
he just said on the ustream that the set will be special, and that people should enter the raffle because its for a good cause even if you don't win but there are 400 pair of tickets up for grabs

Pizza Club
07-21-2010, 09:26 PM
he just said on the ustream that the set will be special, and that people should enter the raffle because its for a good cause even if you don't win but there are 400 pair of tickets up for grabs

good catch

i should pay more attention to my twitter feed

Cool As Ice Cream
07-22-2010, 02:56 AM
omg! a meet and greet with merchandise items? for only $500? count me in! can't wait to meet them.

Pizza Club
07-22-2010, 09:30 AM
It's for a good cause. And if there's any place they could sell that out, it's Chicago.

Caine Walker
07-22-2010, 10:03 AM
del

Cool As Ice Cream
07-22-2010, 10:31 AM
http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/85923/av-2180.jpg

slunken
07-22-2010, 06:34 PM
looks like guy's mouth wrote a check his ass couldn't cash

iPumpkin
07-23-2010, 04:08 AM
terrible story. I have been it a situation similar I just yelled like a woman until some dudes with muscles came and the perpetrator ran.

Esty
07-23-2010, 05:17 AM
Seems like you suffered brain damage too.

exactlythesame
07-23-2010, 07:07 AM
guy is a dumbass for taking on something he couldn't handle

davin
07-23-2010, 10:01 PM
I'm going, I did the cheaper VIP thing.

Same here bro. I called the woman on the press release and she assured me "Balcony VIP" gives you a Blacony Access option, and is not Balcony only.

See you on the floor!

davin
07-23-2010, 10:03 PM
Surprised there's not more discussion about this... SP at the Metro! Must be fairly heavy emotional baggage for Corgan to come back there

I think it speaks volumes about his current confidence level with this lineup for them to do this show.

davin
07-23-2010, 10:06 PM
woah. crazy, but nice of Billy to help. $500 to meet Sp though...

whatever, its for a good cause, unlike the 20th anniv shows. but at least those resulted in lots of funny pictures to ridicule.

Did the raffle. Have my fingers crossed.

good luck dude. i scored $100 VIP tickets, but also bought 10 raffle tickets with my wife's credit card...to try and get more tix for my cheap friends.

omg! a meet and greet with merchandise items? for only $500? count me in! can't wait to meet them.

dont forget about the souncheck thats free every other time. lol. GOOD CAUSE!

Esty
07-23-2010, 10:19 PM
I think it speaks volumes about his current confidence level with this lineup for them to do this show.

I think it speaks volumes about just how naive and delusional he really is.

You say "potato" and I say, "You're a stupid fuck".

thomas_bland
07-24-2010, 11:06 AM
They should open with Owata so they can do the whole shmoozy "Oh California - Oh Chicago" bit.

He also said on one of the webcasts they might debut My Love is Winter at the show.

Hope there's some decent UK dates during this project.

aomb1979
07-24-2010, 01:59 PM
The Davster is married?

<sp3
07-24-2010, 06:58 PM
I happened to randomly be in Chicago (for the first time in my life, on vacation) so I entered the raffle and won. Wicked pumped!

Just wondering.. Did everyone who entered the raffle win also?

Rickpat12
07-24-2010, 07:14 PM
I did not win, but will pay a small fee to be someone's guest. Please?

Caine Walker
07-24-2010, 08:55 PM
didn't get any kind of confirmation/denial. ah well.

samuel redman
07-24-2010, 09:12 PM
you're gonna miss a fantastic show caine

Pizza Club
07-25-2010, 02:12 AM
Same here bro. I called the woman on the press release and she assured me "Balcony VIP" gives you a Blacony Access option, and is not Balcony only.

See you on the floor!

That's cool to know. I'm probably going to stay up on the balcony though. Hopefully my camcorder comes back from repair by then.

Shallowed
07-25-2010, 03:08 AM
I did not win, but will pay a small fee to be someone's guest. Please?

$15,000 sound good?

Kahlo
07-25-2010, 03:54 AM
Davin do you have kids yet?

Caine Walker
07-25-2010, 11:35 AM
you're gonna miss a fantastic show caine

i'm actually a tiny bit bummed, i would've liked to go.

Rickpat12
07-25-2010, 12:38 PM
$15,000 sound good?

yeah def. Considering sure tix were 100. But yeah, I was thinking more of comping the raffle cost, and maybe a little on the side.

Cool As Ice Cream
07-25-2010, 12:53 PM
The Davster is married?

yes.

Esty
07-25-2010, 03:12 PM
i'm actually a tiny bit bummed, i would've liked to go.

Why?

DuoSonic
07-25-2010, 03:22 PM
I won a pair of tickets and I'm stoked. Can't really afford the trip, so I would've skipped doing the Grand Rapids show if I'd known this was going to happen. But I am NOT complaining! Can't wait to see them at the Metro!

BTW, I purchased 5 raffle tickets and my buddy purchased 2 (I'm the one that won).

<sp3
07-25-2010, 11:11 PM
I did not win, but will pay a small fee to be someone's guest. Please?


I am bringing my sister, because she is the one kindly hosting me this week on my vacation. If for some reason she decides she doesn't want to go you can have my other ticket.

Rickpat12
07-25-2010, 11:36 PM
Thanks for that! But good news...a kind gentleman from the o-board has an extra, so it appears I'll be in attendance. Can't wait!

davin
07-26-2010, 01:23 AM
They should open with Owata so they can do the whole shmoozy "Oh California - Oh Chicago" bit.

He also said on one of the webcasts they might debut My Love is Winter at the show.

Hope there's some decent UK dates during this project.

they didn't open with Owata in Pittsburgh last night, but when it was played they definitely slowed down and accentuated the whole "goodbye California, i'm coming home to Chicago" bit....there's no way he wasn't thinking about metro. you could see it in his face.

davin
07-26-2010, 01:56 AM
Thanks for that! But good news...a kind gentleman from the o-board has an extra, so it appears I'll be in attendance. Can't wait!

nicely done rickpat. how'd you possibly find an o-board person with no friends?? :p

Davin do you have kids yet?

Kahlo we're stll enjoing the DINK lifesytle.

That's cool to know. I'm probably going to stay up on the balcony though. Hopefully my camcorder comes back from repair by then.

believe it or not Pizza Club, of all the times i have been to metro over the years i have never once watched a show from the balcony.

JRiordan
07-26-2010, 03:42 AM
Thanks for that! But good news...a kind gentleman from the o-board has an extra, so it appears I'll be in attendance. Can't wait!

Nice work dude. You should contact sp3 anyway in case the o-board person flakes.

Rickpat12
07-26-2010, 08:58 AM
The person from the o-board is flying in from Kansas City, and none of his friends could make the trip. Guys legit and is really cool.

Caine Walker
07-26-2010, 09:38 AM
Why?

i dunno, ten bucks to see the circus. call it curiosity, i guess. i actually have plans this night anyway, so it works out.

Pizza Club
07-26-2010, 09:50 AM
believe it or not Pizza Club, of all the times i have been to metro over the years i have never once watched a show from the balcony.



Same here. I've been there a million times and have never watched a show up there. I'm reconsidering doing this. Someone said some not so great things about being up there. I guess it all depends on what time I end up getting there.

What time is everyone planning on showing up?

Esty
07-26-2010, 03:45 PM
i dunno, ten bucks to see the circus. call it curiosity, i guess. i actually have plans this night anyway, so it works out.

I'd rather take my 10 bucks and go see "inception" again. Fantastic film.

SiouxDude
07-26-2010, 11:23 PM
I got VIP tix but the email doesn't say when the soundcheck is. Doors are 6:30 PM but my guess is that soundcheck will be much earlier. Any ideas?

redbull
07-26-2010, 11:24 PM
if you go, make sure to request dross

Caine Walker
07-26-2010, 11:29 PM
I'd rather take my 10 bucks and go see "inception" again. Fantastic film.

this.

oh well, i hope that kid gets better. i wouldn't want it to be necessary to have a third of my skull removed.

Esty
07-27-2010, 04:28 AM
Well, at least he's now got the mental capacity needed to love SP music nowadays.

Pizza Club
07-27-2010, 09:19 AM
Sounds like there will be two lines? I got an email saying the VIP people needed to line up at the Smartbar entrance. Usually the line goes the opposite direction and around the corner. What did the non-VIP email say?

Pizza Club
07-27-2010, 03:31 PM
this line aint shit. Jriordan is here and a couple others.

wHATcOLOR
07-27-2010, 04:53 PM
Guys legit and is really cool.

you gonna s his d?

BlissedandGone2
07-27-2010, 05:50 PM
this line aint shit. Jriordan is here and a couple others.

wish i was there :(

killtrocity
07-27-2010, 11:05 PM
just found out about this watching WGN news tonight, wtf?

samuel redman
07-28-2010, 01:39 AM
Matt Walker on 1979

BlissedandGone2
07-28-2010, 01:50 AM
is there no feedback from this show?

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 02:41 AM
is there no feedback from this show?

FUCKING AMAZING.


Very quickly...I'll write more in the morning:

- The Governor was there, declared it Matt Leone Day
- There was an auction...someone paid $10,000 for the guitar Billy played 1979 with
- 1979 was with Kill Hannah and Matt Walker and a dozen other people on stage
- There were A LOT of classic guitars used. The normal gear was shipped to Asia. For example - the bat guitar, a weird looking Fender Jaguar and a Mustang that was used at the first (!) SP show 22 years ago.
- new song debuted, "Blessed Mother"
- I got video of As Rome Burns, United States, Blessed Mother and the 1979 onstage party; also took a million pics


I overheard Joe Shanahan talking and he said they raised $70k and that was before all the auctions + event poster. Matt Leone needed $100,000 and it had to have been pretty close to reaching that after the auctions.

Very emotional night. The crowd was GREATTTTTTTTTTTT. Nicole gave me a pick. :love:

Cool As Ice Cream
07-28-2010, 02:46 AM
lol jriordan
i remember his picture at one of those meet and greets

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 02:56 AM
lol jriordan
i remember his picture at one of those meet and greets

He's a real cool dude.



Blessed Mother is uploading right now to Youtube. It's unedited, so you get some banter. You should be able to search for it in a few hours. I'm going to sleep.

Cool As Ice Cream
07-28-2010, 03:08 AM
he brought a copy of siamese dream on vinyl.

Cool As Ice Cream
07-28-2010, 03:10 AM
FUCKING AMAZING.


Very quickly...I'll write more in the morning:

- The Governor was there, declared it Matt Leone Day
- There was an auction...someone paid $10,000 for the guitar Billy played 1979 with
- 1979 was with Kill Hannah and Matt Walker and a dozen other people on stage
- There were A LOT of classic guitars used. The normal gear was shipped to Asia. For example - the bat guitar, a weird looking Fender Jaguar and a Mustang that was used at the first (!) SP show 22 years ago.
- new song debuted, "Blessed Mother"
- I got video of As Rome Burns, United States, Blessed Mother and the 1979 onstage party; also took a million pics


I overheard Joe Shanahan talking and he said they raised $70k and that was before all the auctions + event poster. Matt Leone needed $100,000 and it had to have been pretty close to reaching that after the auctions.

Very emotional night. The crowd was GREATTTTTTTTTTTT. Nicole gave me a pick. :love:

how exactly does that make the concert fucking amazing?

are you drunk?

Mo
07-28-2010, 03:13 AM
- new song debuted, "Blessed Mother"

Ugh. Ughediughedi ugh.

TuralyonW3
07-28-2010, 04:46 AM
the kill hannah singer gays up his part SO bad. Mike rushes the drums.

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I'm glad they raised a lot of money for the dude though. medical bills suck.

JRiordan
07-28-2010, 05:12 AM
My first Mike Byrne show (couldn't attend any of the SITS shows or other SP this tour). First time seeing Billy since Lasalle Power Company in Chicago for the North Shore benefit earlier this year.

Very fun show.

Jeff rocked all night (no surprise there)

United States -- it's impossible for this song to NOT rock fucking hard, regardless of who is on drums. New arrangement was fun. Crowd was very into it, which was awesome.

Eye -- very very cool. One of my faves from the 20th anniversary tour. Now another reworking. Love the slow spacy intro.

Gossamer - not gonna say it's as good as 2007 or 2008 versions, but still a killer song, and it's good that they keep rearranging stuff. This is what I came to see.

Owata, Perfect, and That's The Way were all very nice

Billy said that it was almost 22 years ago that SP played their first show at Metro. I yelled "Spiteface!", and Billy said, "yeah, we did play Spiteface", and played the riff briefly. Mike seemed like he wanted to come in on drums but didn't really. Then Billy said "that song sucked anyway". LOL

Blessed Mother was really nice. Great playing by Jeff.

At one point Billy said "let's have Pumpkins request hour... let's see who can stump Jeff". So Billy pointed to different peeps to call out songs. Some awesome person said Jellybelly, but Jeff didn't really play it. Then peeps started yelling for XYU. Billy said "yeah sure... I'm not playing XYU. Go home and watch it on youtube". LOL.

Someone yelled Lucky 13, so Jeff played the riff and Mike did a brief drum beat. But Billy said "we played that last tour".

Billy was tired from flying in from NYC, but he was in a positive mood all night. He definitely restrained himself during the scream in Rat in a Cage.

Clearly Byrne is nowhere near Chamberlin level, so if you come in expecting that, you're just gonna be even more disappointed. He did a respectable job (and many songs awesome job). If you haven't seen SP in Chicago in 1.5 years, you should have had a good time tonight.

shout out to Pizza Club, davin, Rickpat, and his friend from the o-board. Cool dude.

Get well Matt Leone!!! Feel free to make a donation:
Sweet Relief News: Sweet Relief helping to raise money for Matthew Leone of Madina Lake (http://www.sweetrelief.org/news/sweet-relief-helping-raise-money-matthew-leone-madina-lake)

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 09:20 AM
how exactly does that make the concert fucking amazing?

are you drunk?

That's cool dude, haters gonna hate. Take whatever you want out of a mini-review given at 2AM. It was pretty awesome, even if I can't write well enough at 2AM to tell you why.

Cool As Ice Cream
07-28-2010, 09:23 AM
omg the governor was there!
omg there were a lot of people on stage!
omg we all cried!

yep. gonna hate.

so, were you drunk?

redhawk
07-28-2010, 09:35 AM
I'm sure it was awesome last night. Cool as Ice Cream is just a douche who loves to hate on the current band, even though they are putting on awesome shows and getting great reviews from just about everybody.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 09:42 AM
they're getting great reviews because they are playing the greatest hits CD on shuffle every night. the band can suck as hard as it wants, but as long as it plays today cr bwbw and tt and not too much else the audiences will love it. you hearing much talk about the new material in these reviews? didn't think so.

nice that they raised nearly 70k though.

redhawk
07-28-2010, 09:52 AM
Actually I'm hearing that most reviewers like the new material the best or just as well as the hits. I think it is a great mix of old and new and great songs and radio hits. Most people that I have read are really surprised at how well the new stuff holds up against the older stuff, and plus it seems the band is more enthusiastic when they play the newer stuff.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 09:58 AM
Actually I'm hearing that most reviewers like the new material the best or just as well as the hits. I think it is a great mix of old and new and great songs and radio hits. Most people that I have read are really surprised at how well the new stuff holds up against the older stuff, and plus it seems the band is more enthusiastic when they play the newer stuff.

im not reading that at all, but i haven't read every review for every show. also, they tend to skip some of the new songs.. last night they didn't even play wwmm or freak.

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 10:17 AM
so, were you drunk?


No, I didn't drink at all. If you can't understand why a Smashing Pumpkins' benefit show at Metro would be awesome then...sorry.

Yeah, the setlist wasn't *that* different, but there are a lot of things that make a show special. This was one of those shows where everything surrounding the night made the show better than if you just checked out the setlist.

AveryLoren
07-28-2010, 10:23 AM
I've lurked here for 10 years and even with the majority of people gone the level of asshole is still here

Corganist
07-28-2010, 10:26 AM
they're getting great reviews because they are playing the greatest hits CD on shuffle every night. the band can suck as hard as it wants, but as long as it plays today cr bwbw and tt and not too much else the audiences will love it. you hearing much talk about the new material in these reviews? didn't think so.

nice that they raised nearly 70k though.

They're really not playing any more greatest hits songs than they were on the maligned 20th Anniversary Shows. Comparing the setlists on this tour to the late 2008 setlists, both use a similar amount of greatest hit songs, and they make up a similar percentage of the setlist. So no, that's not the reason they're getting good reviews. It almost certainly goes beyond song selection, because on paper "Greatest hits + Teargarden songs" doesn't exactly sound like a formula for success.

Corganist
07-28-2010, 10:32 AM
im not reading that at all, but i haven't read every review for every show. also, they tend to skip some of the new songs.. last night they didn't even play wwmm or freak.

I think they might have finally come around on the idea that WWMM shouldn't be a setlist staple. They haven't played it in the last 5 or 6 shows now.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 10:39 AM
They're really not playing any more greatest hits songs than they were on the maligned 20th Anniversary Shows. Comparing the setlists on this tour to the late 2008 setlists, both use a similar amount of greatest hit songs, and they make up a similar percentage of the setlist. So no, that's not the reason they're getting good reviews. It almost certainly goes beyond song selection, because on paper "Greatest hits + Teargarden songs" doesn't exactly sound like a formula for success.

there's a greater greatest hits to new/obscure songs ratio on this tour. They cut out all the fat from the anniversary tour show and compacted it into a two hour concert. MUCH less long jams, no covers, no obscure tunes, and he's tending to cut out a teargarden song or two on some of the nights.

so yeah, same amount of hits, but less on all the extra stuff that surrounded what the majority of the crowds were paying to see (BWBW, Today, Cherub, etc). This is a more casual audience friendly show.

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 10:39 AM
Blessed Mother

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Duke
07-28-2010, 10:48 AM
they're getting great reviews because they are playing the greatest hits CD on shuffle every night. the band can suck as hard as it wants, but as long as it plays today cr bwbw and tt and not too much else the audiences will love it. you hearing much talk about the new material in these reviews? didn't think so.

nice that they raised nearly 70k though.

That's what it felt like at terminal 5.

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 10:49 AM
1979


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redhawk
07-28-2010, 10:55 AM
I don't think the hardcore fans even wanted to hear a 20 minute Set the Controls or a 15 minute Glass and the Ghost Children. Them cutting that out of the show was a good thing that all fans can agree on. Would much rather listen to Hummer, Song for a Son and Ava Adore than either one of the long jams.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 10:57 AM
i fucking love long sp jams... i even liked set the controls. it was amazing to me to hear so many fan complain about it as long improv jams had been a staple at some of the best sp concerts (mcis tour, adore, etc).

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 11:08 AM
Owata

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Corganist
07-28-2010, 11:17 AM
there's a greater greatest hits to new/obscure songs ratio on this tour. They cut out all the fat from the anniversary tour show and compacted it into a two hour concert. MUCH less long jams, no covers, no obscure tunes, and he's tending to cut out a teargarden song or two on some of the nights.

so yeah, same amount of hits, but less on all the extra stuff that surrounded what the majority of the crowds were paying to see (BWBW, Today, Cherub, etc). This is a more casual audience friendly show.

I'll give you that cutting out the drone-y covers and noise jams probably does wonders for the audience's attention and overall experience. That argument makes sense, because the shows are shorter and have higher energy without stuff like Set the Controls dragging it down. But I don't buy that this tour is any more of a greatest hits parade than any other recent tour has been. If you really think about it, there's not much that they're playing now that wasn't a major part of the setlist in 2008. Owata, Song for a Son, Tarantula, That's the Way, United States, As Rome Burns, Gossamer...a handful of hits...and a couple more "obscure" SP tracks (Teargarden tracks in 2010, fan favorite old school SP songs in 2008)...it's basically the same structure.

I still think it's less about what the band is playing and more about how they're playing it.

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 11:50 AM
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paranoid
07-28-2010, 12:05 PM
i disagree with that corganist, i really feel they were playing a lot better than they are now in late 2008. siva? superchrist? US? the energy present in those performances are levels above what the band sounds like now.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 12:11 PM
I'll also ad that appearance is everything, and not having billy parade around a stage for 2.5 hours in a stupid fucking dress also results in better reviews.. like it or not.

redhawk
07-28-2010, 12:14 PM
The crowd is happier and so is Billy as compared to 2008. Losing the dress and whatever that was on his head has helped too.

BlissedandGone2
07-28-2010, 02:28 PM
A friend of mine who went said it was one of the best shows hes ever been too.

Frankly, I'm surprised by all the positive attitudes, but I'm happy to hear people enjoyed themselves.

Corgan seemed in good spirits based on the videos and his sappy tweets, but his voice sounds pretty low energy to me in some of those songs. Probably just tired from flyin in and such. I think the bass playing and guitar work all sounds damn good, drumming is clearly still iffy, but not as bad as I once thought.

Corganist
07-28-2010, 02:45 PM
I'll also ad that appearance is everything, and not having billy parade around a stage for 2.5 hours in a stupid fucking dress also results in better reviews.. like it or not.

That's true, and probably is a much more accurate explanation for the positive reception of the tour than "they're playing the hits."

Corganist
07-28-2010, 02:46 PM
All that said, am I the only one kinda underwhelmed by Blessed Mother? It doesn't seem to go anywhere.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 03:24 PM
That's true, and probably is a much more accurate explanation for the positive reception of the tour than "they're playing the hits."

you can't dismiss that bit of criticism. one of the biggest complaints for the 20th anniv. tour was that 'they weren't playing enough hits.' they spread the songs over two nights, so if you only went to one night, you got tonight tonight, today, and bullet, but if you went the other night you got 1979, ava adore, disarm, etc. you also had to sit through a bunch of new stuff (99 floors past the 5 minute mark), a bunch of obscure stuff (which was great for the hard cores i might ad) and some long covers. this tour, you go to one show, up front you get ava adore, hummer, today, sit through a new song/obscure tune or two, then get another SP single. in one night you get all the singles instead of having to shell out money for two nights worth of tickets or only getting half of the songs you wanted to hear in one night. this = happier casual fans, which appears to be a large chunk of the crowds showing up (lots of younger kids exposed to the band via guitar hero, mixed with average fans, then a handful of the old school/hardcore fans who would recognize as rome burns).

dustrock
07-28-2010, 03:32 PM
All that said, am I the only one kinda underwhelmed by Blessed Mother? It doesn't seem to go anywhere.

ironically, thought the shitty soundcheck version was more interesting.

BlissedandGone2
07-28-2010, 04:03 PM
you can't dismiss that bit of criticism. one of the biggest complaints for the 20th anniv. tour was that 'they weren't playing enough hits.' they spread the songs over two nights, so if you only went to one night, you got tonight tonight, today, and bullet, but if you went the other night you got 1979, ava adore, disarm, etc. you also had to sit through a bunch of new stuff (99 floors past the 5 minute mark), a bunch of obscure stuff (which was great for the hard cores i might ad) and some long covers. this tour, you go to one show, up front you get ava adore, hummer, today, sit through a new song/obscure tune or two, then get another SP single. in one night you get all the singles instead of having to shell out money for two nights worth of tickets or only getting half of the songs you wanted to hear in one night. this = happier casual fans, which appears to be a large chunk of the crowds showing up (lots of younger kids exposed to the band via guitar hero, mixed with average fans, then a handful of the old school/hardcore fans who would recognize as rome burns).

please just shut up already

Caine Walker
07-28-2010, 04:15 PM
as rome burns gets on my last good nerve.

New Art Rioter
07-28-2010, 04:31 PM
Any pics of Billy with the bat guitar from this show yet?

Corganist
07-28-2010, 04:53 PM
you can't dismiss that bit of criticism. one of the biggest complaints for the 20th anniv. tour was that 'they weren't playing enough hits.' they spread the songs over two nights, so if you only went to one night, you got tonight tonight, today, and bullet, but if you went the other night you got 1979, ava adore, disarm, etc. you also had to sit through a bunch of new stuff (99 floors past the 5 minute mark), a bunch of obscure stuff (which was great for the hard cores i might ad) and some long covers. this tour, you go to one show, up front you get ava adore, hummer, today, sit through a new song/obscure tune or two, then get another SP single. in one night you get all the singles instead of having to shell out money for two nights worth of tickets or only getting half of the songs you wanted to hear in one night. this = happier casual fans, which appears to be a large chunk of the crowds showing up (lots of younger kids exposed to the band via guitar hero, mixed with average fans, then a handful of the old school/hardcore fans who would recognize as rome burns).

I could understand the "casual fans are happier" premise if the band was playing all of their hits every show so as to make sure no one goes home without hearing their favorite song. But the fact that they've only played 1979 and Disarm a couple times at the most, and Zero none at all, negates that. I hardly think there are many casual fans out there who go to an SP show whose opinion hinges on whether or not they played a post-MCIS single like Eye, SIYL, or Ava Adore. If Billy wanted to serve up a casual fan friendly hit parade, he could do a lot better than this current tour.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 05:11 PM
I could understand the "casual fans are happier" premise if the band was playing all of their hits every show so as to make sure no one goes home without hearing their favorite song. But the fact that they've only played 1979 and Disarm a couple times at the most, and Zero none at all, negates that. I hardly think there are many casual fans out there who go to an SP show whose opinion hinges on whether or not they played a post-MCIS single like Eye, SIYL, or Ava Adore. If Billy wanted to serve up a casual fan friendly hit parade, he could do a lot better than this current tour.

he could also not play BWBW, Cherub, Today, TT, perfect, ava, etc etc etc and replace those with something more obscure or hell any of the new songs. i'm betting the response would not be as strong.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 05:13 PM
please just shut up already

oh what's it to you?

BlissedandGone2
07-28-2010, 05:37 PM
oh what's it to you?

I'm interested in the Metro show, not an irrelevant, stupid argument.

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 05:42 PM
Any pics of Billy with the bat guitar from this show yet?

Here ya go, I'll put more up on Flickr when I get home from work.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3193/37854515094401257172601.jpg



You can see where the bat stickers used to be.

duovamp
07-28-2010, 06:01 PM
Owata

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lol @ someone just filming the chick the ENTIRE TIME.

Pizza Club
07-28-2010, 06:07 PM
It was really hard to see Jeff with a camera, I tried. He stood next to a really bright white light almost the entire show.

e: but I do stand on that side of the stage for a reason, that I won't deny.

Rickpat12
07-28-2010, 06:25 PM
Damn, this was the best show I've been to. Corgan's never seemed happier in the 7 times I've seen him. Lots of raw energy. I know it's early for this band, but I can agree with Corgan, it seems like they do gel together nicely and make it work. This version of Gossamer is probably the best one yet. Lots of emotion from Corgan. Smiling during a lot of the lyrics, you can tell he was happy to be in that place again. I have some sweet ass pictures. I was right in front of Billy against the rail. Great to see they played for a good cause too, very touching.

paranoid
07-28-2010, 06:34 PM
I'm interested in the Metro show, not an irrelevant, stupid argument.

oh. well then read the posts that have to do with the show, and not the posts that have to do with the argument you don't give two shits about. it takes less energy to skim.

myself, I prefer to argue in this thread than to read about the show... so I tend to skip the posts that have to do with it.

New Art Rioter
07-28-2010, 06:38 PM
Thanks for the bat Strat pic. Looks even more beat up now than it did back in the day! Great to see it out again.

Rickpat12
07-28-2010, 06:45 PM
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feedback during United States

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Billy's first guitar used at the first Metro show.

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Gossamer

Eulogy
07-28-2010, 11:36 PM
well

good to see everyone's in good moods. that kill hannah dude sounded awful on his 1979 verse.

Nicole seems competent. Gives off a lazy/bored vibe. Kinda like D'arcy.

Mike is meh.

Setlist is ultra-meh. Blessed Mother is pretty meh.

but i see some promise, i suppose.

redbull
07-28-2010, 11:59 PM
show was taped

Rickpat12
07-29-2010, 12:05 AM
show was taped

glad to hear it. How'd you find out?

Also, about Nicole...She just kinda sits in the corner and plays, but damn can she play.

killtrocity
07-29-2010, 02:29 AM
who the fuck is nicole...?

redbull
07-29-2010, 02:44 AM
glad to hear it. How'd you find out?

Also, about Nicole...She just kinda sits in the corner and plays, but damn can she play.

someone on taperssection mentioned it

nicole is the new bass player

Esty
07-29-2010, 04:00 AM
The crowd is happier and so is Billy as compared to 2008. Losing the dress and whatever that was on his head has helped too.

So he gave up on being an artist in order to make the no attention span, ADD, lowest common demonitor fans left happy. Awesome. I'm back in.

Esty
07-29-2010, 04:02 AM
I'm interested in the Metro show, not an irrelevant, stupid argument.

So, who gives a fuck. Fuck you.

Esty
07-29-2010, 04:04 AM
but i see some promise, i suppose.

Thats because you're a fucking idiot.

Eulogy
07-29-2010, 09:34 AM
Thats because you're a fucking idiot.

or just inexplicably, hopelessly optimistic

YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND

Caine Walker
07-29-2010, 09:43 AM
^^^^^^^^

brendo_91
07-29-2010, 04:12 PM
demonitor

?

Nicole seems competent. Gives off a lazy/bored vibe. Kinda like D'arcy.

Right, except as if she wants to be there... D'arcy always seemed lazy/bored/pissed off/get me outta here.

paranoid
07-29-2010, 04:21 PM
?



Right, except as if she wants to be there... D'arcy always seemed lazy/bored/pissed off/get me outta here.

oh the things we project.

cork_soaker
07-29-2010, 05:13 PM
sneakers for sneaking

Esty
07-30-2010, 05:30 AM
or just inexplicably, hopelessly optimistic

YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND

Yeah, I stand by my original statement.

yoshinobu's revenge
01-07-2011, 10:35 PM
don't suppose there is a recording of this show? interested in hearing a better version of Blessed Mother

Pizza Club
01-08-2011, 11:26 PM
don't suppose there is a recording of this show? interested in hearing a better version of Blessed Mother

Someone in the know said there was but I don't think it has surfaced.

redbull
01-08-2011, 11:36 PM
some cunt at the o-board is hoarding it hard

Rickpat12
01-09-2011, 01:41 PM
some cunt at the o-board is hoarding it hard

this. He has a complete recording of the show. He claims that he "promised" Billy after the show that he'd hand deliver his audience recording to him the next time he was at a BC event, and then and only then would he give it out publicly. He claims that it's against his "promise" if he were to release it before giving Billy something that Billy himself has told people to record and upload.

Esty
01-09-2011, 03:15 PM
Its not the true last metro show assholes. So who gives a fuck. Download any recent generic "sp "show and enjoy that piece of shit.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-10-2011, 02:14 AM
esty is drunk and lonely again.