View Full Version : Bars that have $10 minimum for credit card purchases are fucking stupid


slunken
05-17-2010, 10:37 PM
Not that it's ever an issue, but it's asinine.

Dogfighter28
05-17-2010, 10:42 PM
I went to one with a 15 dollar minimum and had the worst hangover of my life the morning after

TuralyonW3
05-18-2010, 12:02 AM
it cost businesses money to run cards. not really asinine just good business.

TuralyonW3
05-18-2010, 12:03 AM
15 is a bit much though.

Mablak
05-18-2010, 12:19 AM
6 dollars is fair enough, anything above that is asi9. I wonder what the legal limit is, if there is such a thing. I don't think I've ever seen over 15 bucks.

slunken
05-18-2010, 12:20 AM
it cost businesses money to run cards. not really asinine just good business.

It also costs businesses money to pay employees to count a drawer at the end of the night. In short, it costs businesses money to run a business. How is this my problem?

I just don't like being told what to do. The $ amount is completely arbitrary.

slunken
05-18-2010, 12:29 AM
It's like saying "we don't want your business unless your business is over this dollar amount." There's a couple bars I won't go to anymore just because of this rule. It's the principle. If the transaction fee (which is, at the most, what - 50 cents?) is such a blow to the business, why not be cash only? And it's not like the drinks aren't marked up anyway.

This is not my problem and it's infringing upon my rights as a consumer. I thought we were working toward a cashless society?

agenda suicide
05-18-2010, 01:03 AM
15 is a bit much though.

it's $20 at beauty bar.

hnibos
05-18-2010, 01:22 AM
agree drunk4 lyfe

Order 66
05-18-2010, 02:10 AM
how can you walk out of a bar with having spent under 10$... Unless you're a chick of course

TuralyonW3
05-18-2010, 02:19 AM
slunken I think Karl just called u a bitch

Order 66
05-18-2010, 02:23 AM
yeah, I went there

slunken
05-18-2010, 02:28 AM
Not that it's ever an issue, but it's asinine.

It's called reading comprehension.

Order 66
05-18-2010, 02:34 AM
Whatever man. Why I gotta comprehend what a BITCH say [/sam Jackson

slunken
05-18-2010, 02:38 AM
You're that guy who asks the bartender to change the channel on the TV aren't you?

Cool As Ice Cream
05-18-2010, 02:41 AM
there's a tv in your bar? what bar is it? a chick bar? LOL!

Order 66
05-18-2010, 02:41 AM
Yeah. And I only drink wine coolers

Cool As Ice Cream
05-18-2010, 02:41 AM
how can you walk out of a bar with having spent under 10$... Unless you're a chick of course

i was wondering the same thing.
or do you have to pay for every drink/round separately?

Rider
05-18-2010, 03:18 AM
It's like saying "we don't want your business unless your business is over this dollar amount." There's a couple bars I won't go to anymore just because of this rule. It's the principle. If the transaction fee (which is, at the most, what - 50 cents?) is such a blow to the business, why not be cash only? And it's not like the drinks aren't marked up anyway.

This is not my problem and it's infringing upon my rights as a consumer. I thought we were working toward a cashless society?



Guess what bars don't really care about you if you spend less then 10$, they kind of consider you a waste of time.

It's the cost of 3 beers at a cheap bar, if you not going to have more then 3 drinks bring cash with you and don't waste peoples time having to stop and run your stupid card then wait for you cheap ass to sign for it.

sickbadthing
05-18-2010, 03:37 AM
You're going to asshole bars, and you going to this bar makes you an asshole.

Luke de Spa
05-18-2010, 06:20 AM
It's like saying "we don't want your business unless your business is over this dollar amount."
that's exactly what it is and it's wonderful. keeps the riff-raff out. we don't need your kind here

hnibos
05-18-2010, 08:18 AM
credit cards are for pussys

hnibos
05-18-2010, 08:23 AM
fuck bars i should have more money than this

slunken
05-18-2010, 08:54 AM
don't waste peoples time having to stop and run your stupid card then wait for you cheap ass to sign for it.

I bring out the card to pay as I'm ordering my last drink, that way I can drink it in peace. 9 times out of 10, I'm waiting on the bartender.


that's exactly what it is and it's wonderful. keeps the riff-raff out. we don't need your kind here

I've actually found that the bars that need to enforce this rule aren't exactly the classiest joints.

sppunk
05-18-2010, 09:55 AM
Businesses can do whatever they want. I'd have a high limit because credit card companies steal so much profit on small purchases. Cut out the middle man scammers.

Cool As Ice Cream
05-18-2010, 10:14 AM
Could you complain, whine, and bitch some more?? You fucking pussy. How about .......BRING CASH you jackass.

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slunken
05-18-2010, 10:34 AM
Businesses can do whatever they want. I'd have a high limit because credit card companies steal so much profit on small purchases. Cut out the middle man scammers.

I guess my main point is why is it only bars? Can't think of any other businesses that feel a need to do this.

sppunk
05-18-2010, 11:01 AM
Many diners and small stores here have caps between 10-20. An entire small local burrito chain only accepts cash. Use an atm and get cash.

Eulogy
05-18-2010, 11:14 AM
Guess what bars don't really care about you if you spend less then 10$, they kind of consider you a waste of time.

It's the cost of 3 beers at a cheap bar, if you not going to have more then 3 drinks bring cash with you and don't waste peoples time having to stop and run your stupid card then wait for you cheap ass to sign for it.

This.

slunken
05-18-2010, 11:22 AM
Many diners and small stores here have caps between 10-20. An entire small local burrito chain only accepts cash. Use an atm and get cash.

Cash-only is entirely different. My favorite diner has that policy and I'm totally fine with it.

Tell me more about these credit card transaction fees that businesses are seemingly plauged with.

slunken
05-18-2010, 11:25 AM
flipnut, apparently playing poker all day affects your eyes and your ability to read. This isn't a problem that I'm looking for a solution for. I have never been in a situation where I've thought "aw man ten whole dollars i guess i better get outta here too rich for my blood"

It's the WHY that I'm after. I just don't understand WHY. But then again it's just easier (ie - lazier) to assume the former...

slunken
05-18-2010, 12:04 PM
haha i win

slunken
05-18-2010, 12:49 PM
This is awesome. It's like my own personal mutt chained up outside the house (thread). He just keeps barking and barking and I just don't give a shit either way.

Keep up with the name-calling though. All it does is re-confirm that you're out of ammo here.

sppunk
05-18-2010, 01:10 PM
Cash-only is entirely different. My favorite diner has that policy and I'm totally fine with it.

Tell me more about these credit card transaction fees that businesses are seemingly plauged with.

Do you really not know credit card companies take profits (sometimes as high as 3 percent of the sale) from businesses? I mean, really?

slunken
05-18-2010, 01:25 PM
I knew - I just didn't know the exact amount or why it is now a problem all of a sudden. So if they take 3% any which way, how does it matter what amount I spend?

3% of $5 is 15 cents.
3% of $500 is $15.

I fail to see the big deal. It's still 3%.

Rider
05-18-2010, 01:58 PM
I knew - I just didn't know the exact amount or why it is now a problem all of a sudden. So if they take 3% any which way, how does it matter what amount I spend?

3% of $5 is 15 cents.
3% of $500 is $15.

I fail to see the big deal. It's still 3%.

It's not always a a straight percentage. There can be up to 3 different fees tacked onto it. Some will penalize you if you do a small transaction. It's all set up to screw small local business.

They do all kinds of shitty things for example for a year they started bouncing any transaction that had a tip over 20%, they claimed it was to prevent drug dealers and terrorist from laundering money through tips.

If you a smaller business that handles a small amount of credit cards a day you can get royally fucked by credit processors. And when I say small amount I mean anything less then say 100 credit cards a day.

So once again to sum up it's not worth the cost or the headache to deal with your cheap ass. You don't like it don't go there, your 9$ tab will be sorely missed.

slunken
05-18-2010, 02:53 PM
Ah, I see.

So the smallest company in the world has to play by the same rules as the largest? That's messed up. One would think different brackets (like in taxing) would be set in place. Or the #'s would be proportionate...

Oh wait this is America I'm talking about: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Rider
05-18-2010, 03:00 PM
Ah, I see.

So the smallest company in the world has to play by the same rules as the largest? That's messed up. One would think different brackets (like in taxing) would be set in place. Or the #'s would be proportionate...

Oh wait this is America I'm talking about: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

They do have brackets , the smaller companies pay way more then the larger companies. It's this way with everything in the service industry. Smaller bars pay more for beer then larger bars, literally everything is set up with brackets and they screw you on the brackets.

slunken
05-18-2010, 03:33 PM
I heard about that the other day (smaller bars paying more for beer etc) and I was always under the impression that it was because, obviously, a larger bar could buy more at once so they got a better bulk deal. I'm so naive when it comes to consumerism...

The only job I had in that field was bartending at a club and our boss paid us a very hefty hourly rate + whatever our tips were. I can't believe (and am somewhat outraged) that servers/bartenders get paid like $2.50/hr and have to rely on tips solely to cover their paycheck.

I feel like, as a patron, it's not my responsibility to make sure my server can feed her kids. It's her employers. That said, I'm an excellent tipper.

Rider
05-18-2010, 03:56 PM
I heard about that the other day (smaller bars paying more for beer etc) and I was always under the impression that it was because, obviously, a larger bar could buy more at once so they got a better bulk deal. I'm so naive when it comes to consumerism...

The only job I had in that field was bartending at a club and our boss paid us a very hefty hourly rate + whatever our tips were. I can't believe (and am somewhat outraged) that servers/bartenders get paid like $2.50/hr and have to rely on tips solely to cover their paycheck.

I feel like, as a patron, it's not my responsibility to make sure my server can feed her kids. It's her employers. That said, I'm an excellent tipper.

Let me guess the bar that paid the hefty hourly rate is no longer in business.

Glass Dreams
05-18-2010, 04:04 PM
we liek Torltles

slunken
05-18-2010, 10:59 PM
Let me guess the bar that paid the hefty hourly rate is no longer in business.

You got it! It was fun while it lasted (4 years). Those were wild & crazy times. When it closed it forced me to finally get a real job, though.

Rider
05-19-2010, 01:06 AM
You got it! It was fun while it lasted (4 years). Those were wild & crazy times. When it closed it forced me to finally get a real job, though.

I'm amazed it made it 4 years that's actually a very long life for the average club.

Order 66
05-19-2010, 01:18 AM
It was fun while it lasted

slunken
05-19-2010, 03:03 PM
Except for the part where I developed a coke habit and lost the love of my live, of course.

murgle
05-19-2010, 05:01 PM
I guess my main point is why is it only bars? Can't think of any other businesses that feel a need to do this.

Every donut shop I've ever been to has a minimum credit card limit. Usually only $3-5, but still.

Gossamer
05-19-2010, 05:27 PM
pretty much every single store in nyc has a minimum credit card limit these days, (except for huge chains like Mcdonalds or Burger King)...stop your bitching dude.

Gossamer
05-19-2010, 05:40 PM
The reason this is in place is because you have these small mom and pop kinds of stores, (like the record store I work at for example) who sell cds and DVDs for 2 or 3 dollars, and then when people buy ring up 2 or 3 dollar tabs, we literally make zero money after all the credit card charges are taken out.

sppunk
05-19-2010, 06:26 PM
Welcome to this thread, Gossamer.

frugalscotsman
05-19-2010, 08:57 PM
i like beer :beer:

you guys should drink more beer. it will make you happy. :cheers:

slunken, why not open a tab? or was this the only time you'd visit this particular bar? if not, you could just go a few times a week (or whatever your frequency is), run up the tab, then use said credit card to pay.

:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

slunken
05-19-2010, 09:37 PM
slunken, why not open a tab? or was this the only time you'd visit this particular bar? if not, you could just go a few times a week (or whatever your frequency is), run up the tab, then use said credit card to pay.

*facepalm*

/thread

slunken
05-20-2010, 10:43 AM
And then they get mad because they can't make change for all my $100 bills.

slunken
05-20-2010, 10:47 AM
lol

Trotskilicious
05-25-2010, 02:52 AM
beauty bar sucks

Nimrod's Son
05-25-2010, 02:59 AM
It takes a bartender five to ten times as long to run a card as it does to take cash. It's a matter of logistics. If you don't like rules like this, don't comain when the bartender is busy and isn't able to serve you.

Trotskilicious
05-25-2010, 03:12 AM
Tab?

slunken
05-25-2010, 08:58 AM
Read?

Trotskilicious
05-25-2010, 07:06 PM
for someone who hates this board and thinks it's a waste of time you sure get upset when someone doesn't really read a thread

ohnoitsbonnie
05-25-2010, 08:05 PM
For someone that blah blah blah and blah blah blah, you sure like to blah blah blah

Trotskilicious
05-25-2010, 09:16 PM
sure do!

Luke de Spa
05-27-2010, 04:10 AM
^ so who is this guy

Cool As Ice Cream
05-27-2010, 05:21 AM
he's a tv poker celebrity, so he can't say.

Luke de Spa
05-27-2010, 05:27 AM
i want to be a tv poker celebrity. i don't know how to play poker, though. can anyone help?