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I can't find a video of Locke being run over by Desmond.

Damn.

i totally freaked out when this happened. just like that fat fucker in season one. i love this season so far.

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Why the fuck did she blow up?

My new theory is that Jacob is Prospero and the Man in Black is Caliban.

I can't find a video of Locke being run over by Desmond.

Damn.
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LOL tanx

Crap, I knew I should have watched it this morning.

Why the fuck did she blow up?

You have been watching this show, right?

I actually wanted an Illiana flashback episode just cause I was sure it'd be full of Jacob-ness and mystical island hojo. However, it is nice to see the dynamite is still unstable, I thought they were actually going to lug it to the plane with no problems whatsoever. Great callback to Artz.

I actually wanted an Illiana flashback episode just cause I was sure it'd be full of Jacob-ness and mystical island hojo. However, it is nice to see the dynamite is still unstable, I thought they were actually going to lug it to the plane with no problems whatsoever. Great callback to Artz.

Something tells me we have an episode about Jacob coming up.

Someone told me there's a monster flashback episode coming up, and I've always assumed him, Jacob, and the origins of the island are all intertwined.

Someone told me there's a monster flashback episode coming up, and I've always assumed him, Jacob, and the origins of the island are all intertwined.

Your reasoning is flawless.

I really hope they explain the insane amount of paradoxes they created this season and are not assuming we are all just willing to overlook them.

You have been watching this show, right?

LOL, hell no.

I really hope they explain the insane amount of paradoxes they created this season and are not assuming we are all just willing to overlook them.

I just want them to explain who the hell was shooting at the Left Behinders when they stole the boats in Season 5!

I just want them to explain who the hell was shooting at the Left Behinders when they stole the boats in Season 5!

Last night I was bored and I started reading lostpedia. I wanted to rewatch all the old training films. Just reading random stuff on there you find all these little things they did just keep a mystery or to keep you guessing that made no sense then and they never bothered to go back and explain them.

I have a few big ones form this season that I hope they answer. If this is a totally new timeline from the 70's onward why were they all on the plane in this time line. Assuming it was the explosion that sunk the island how are characters like Ben, Ben Fathers, and Pierre Chang alive in the new side timeline. I just hope they explain these at all, I don't even care if the explanation makes sense.

The island sunk reallllllly slowly after Jughead blew up. Like Titantic.

Last night I was bored and I started reading lostpedia. I wanted to rewatch all the old training films. Just reading random stuff on there you find all these little things they did just keep a mystery or to keep you guessing that made no sense then and they never bothered to go back and explain them.

I have a few big ones form this season that I hope they answer. If this is a totally new timeline from the 70's onward why were they all on the plane in this time line. Assuming it was the explosion that sunk the island how are characters like Ben, Ben Fathers, and Pierre Chang alive in the new side timeline. I just hope they explain these at all, I don't even care if the explanation makes sense.

are you retarded

Well if Jughead's detonation did cause the timeline split (and Daniel Faraday/Whitmore restated that fact in last week's episode. Faraday is like Data or Spock; when it comes to the show's internal logic, motherfucker ain't wrong), why are Ben and Ben's Dad and Chang still alive?

are you retarded

I've fucked every girlfriend I have ever had.

I've fucked every girlfriend I have ever had.

That's so relevant it makes me want to come.

Didn't Ben's father say something to the end of, 'I'm glad we got off the island while we could"?

Eh, not exactly:
<I>ROGER: This isn't the life I wanted for you, Ben. I wanted so much more.

BEN: I know.

ROGER: That's why I signed up for that damn Dharma Initiative and took you to the island, and... they were decent people. Smarter than I'll ever be. Imagine how different our lives would have been if we'd stayed.

BEN: Yes, we'd have both lived happily ever after...

ROGER: No, I'm serious, Ben! Who knows what you would have become? </I>

The line seems to imply that they left before Jughead went off, which doesn't make sense if the timeline spits at the moment of Jughead's detonation. Speaking of which, wouldn't flash-sideways Chang (who introduced Hurley's award) know that Hurley was from the future and worked for Dharma?

yeah, those are actually pretty blatant mistakes in continuity if they don't have a mechanism for explaining them...

There is the whole "flash-sideways are flash-forwards" theory, that Smokey leaves the island, rewrites reality, and the flash sideways world is the result, but that would mean that the nuke going off would mean jack squat, which would make Faraday repeatedly mentioning how setting off a nuclear bomb would change the timeline also pointless, which doesn't make much sense.

The one that really bugs me that I don't think they are going to explain and we are not supposed to notice is, why were they all on the plan in the sideways timeline? The world is radically different they all have different new back stories yet they all are in the exact same situation, Clare is pregnant, Jack is bringing home his fathers body, Kate is still under arrest. That just makes no sense.

if you ascribe to the idea that "course correction" is always at work, it makes sense. these people are all linked together, no matter what the timeline is. i don't think the world is as radically different as you say it is. parts of their lives may be, but their overall life, and especially their "world", is not.

Fate and destiny and these characters lives being intertwined has always been a huge aspect of the show so it doesn't bother me in the slightest that they'd keep running into each other and still be in the same situations: it's a thematic thing. No problem there. I just wanna know why the hell Ben, Chang, Ethan, and Ben's dad are all still alive. Details, people, details!

Fate and destiny and these characters lives being intertwined has always been a huge aspect of the show so it doesn't bother me in the slightest that they'd keep running into each other and still be in the same situations: it's a thematic thing. No problem there. I just wanna know why the hell Ben, Chang, Ethan, and Ben's dad are all still alive. Details, people, details!

There are all sorts of continuity errors with Chang.

The one that really bugs me that I don't think they are going to explain and we are not supposed to notice is, why were they all on the plan in the sideways timeline? The world is radically different they all have different new back stories yet they all are in the exact same situation, Clare is pregnant, Jack is bringing home his fathers body, Kate is still under arrest. That just makes no sense.

it's a fantasy story man. If this is what bothers you, how did you possibly make it to season six?

it's a fantasy story man. If this is what bothers you, how did you possibly make it to season six?

It's fine to have a fantasy world with it's own rules, when you start having to bend the rules within your own fantasy world to make things work you start having issues.
I have no issue with explanations that don't make sense, but you assume I either won't notice something or will just accept it with any attempt to exlain it I have issues.

It's fine to have a fantasy world with it's own rules, when you start having to bend the rules within your own fantasy world to make things work you start having issues.
I have no issue with explanations that don't make sense, but you assume I either won't notice something or will just accept it with any attempt to exlain it I have issues.

the characters' lives crossing over in ridiculous coincidences has been one of the central motifs in the whole series

the characters' lives crossing over in ridiculous coincidences has been one of the central motifs in the whole series

I love how defensive of this show people get.

He's right, though. Bagging on why Chang and Ben etc. are alive in the flash sideways makes sense because it's plot-related logical Point A to Point B stuff. Themes and motifs are different because they're just there for, like, the vibe man. If the series showed these characters lives intercontected before they were on the island and off the island it makes perfect sense for their lives to be connected in different ways in an alternate reality. That's one of the big points of the show.

He's right, though. Bagging on why Chang and Ben etc. are alive in the flash sideways makes sense because it's plot-related logical Point A to Point B stuff. Themes and motifs are different because they're just there for, like, the vibe man. If the series showed these characters lives intercontected before they were on the island and off the island it makes perfect sense for their lives to be connected in different ways in an alternate reality. That's one of the big points of the show.

Yes but they could be interrelated without the plane. Personally I would have found that much more interesting. Having them all be on the plane again was just a gimmick.

lost has been full of gimmicks since the beginning. season one was cheesy as shit.

remember how they would end the show with touching moments set to songs on hurley's headphones?

Yes but they could be interrelated without the plane. Personally I would have found that much more interesting. Having them all be on the plane again was just a gimmick.

oh so basically you are saying "I arbitrarily feel this way and I am going to attempt to justify it by making illegitimate claims to objectivism"

oh so basically you are saying "I arbitrarily feel this way and I am going to attempt to justify it by making illegitimate claims to objectivism"

Again I love it, it's like talking to Monte about religion. Calm down it's a TV show.

Again I love it, it's like talking to Monte about religion. Calm down it's a TV show.

"I can't be wrong, let me try and derail what the argument was actually about"

"I can't be wrong, let me try and derail what the argument was actually about"

You do realize every time you post you prove my point further.

the funny thing is that I'm not a dick sucking fanboy at all. I roll my eyes at this show all the time. You just really don't want to be wrong.

the funny thing is that I'm not a dick sucking fanboy at all. I roll my eyes at this show all the time. You just really don't want to be wrong.

Still going....

It's fine to have a fantasy world with it's own rules, when you start having to bend the rules within your own fantasy world to make things work you start having issues.
I have no issue with explanations that don't make sense, but you assume I either won't notice something or will just accept it with any attempt to exlain it I have issues.

I really agree with this, the storyline's just got so many mistakes, unless they're there for a reason and going to be explained it's just a really bad story.

Do you remember earlier this season when Miles told a few other characters that he had seen 'that blonde girl that was pregnant and then went lost'. As I recall, he wasn't even around when Claire was still in the series.

Still, I'm following this and wondering what's going to happen. I'm sure that boy that Smokey and Desmond saw will have some important role, I wonder what they're going to do with that.

miles met claire in season four

There are all sorts of continuity errors with Chang.

like what?

How is he alive in the sideways timeline? Why the heck did he keep going under aliases in the Dharma training videos? Okay, I'm not sure if they're continuity errors, but they are pretty big questions that I think should be addressed. I'm fine with not understanding EVERYTHING because the show could get really didactic and lame quick if it was just a laundry list of answered questions, but there's a few that'll bug me.

Why is Walt so damn special, for one.

Yes but they could be interrelated without the plane. Personally I would have found that much more interesting. Having them all be on the plane again was just a gimmick.

Solid gimmick, though. It was really just there for the opening scene of S6 with the whole "holy crap, plane is gonna crash wait it didn't yabutwha?"

why wouldn't it be a possibility he was alive in the alt?

If the nuke explosion was what caused the alternate reality, and he was at basically ground zero when the nuke went off ("The Incident") how did he survive?

i think that's a pretty big clue that the nuke detonation in the main timeline doesn't really have anything to do with the alt, or at least the alt did not "spin off" from that point in time.

That kinda drives me batty, though. Why would the show state repeatedly "nuclear bomb changes timeline, nuclear bomb changes timeline", bring back Daniel to say "nuclear bomb changes timeline" etc. etc. and then have it not be the Jughead explosion? Ack!

Instead of the detonation being THE catalyst, maybe it was the first step of a larger series of events that we're seeing play out now.

How is he alive in the sideways timeline? Why the heck did he keep going under aliases in the Dharma training videos? Okay, I'm not sure if they're continuity errors, but they are pretty big questions that I think should be addressed. I'm fine with not understanding EVERYTHING because the show could get really didactic and lame quick if it was just a laundry list of answered questions, but there's a few that'll bug me.

Why is Walt so damn special, for one.

Can't remember all the details because it was scattered on tons of pages but theres stuff with the training videos that seem to be out of sync with the time they established alter.

I think most of it is totally unintentional and happened simply because they hadn't really fleshed out every tiny detail of the production when they introduced him in the films.

Instead of the detonation being THE catalyst, maybe it was the first step of a larger series of events that we're seeing play out now.

yeah man. we have no idea what happened after the bomb went off, it's silly to assume that the island just immediately sunk and everyone died. that obviously didn't happen, Chang and Ben and all these other people are still alive in the alt.

So I've been telling everyone and thinking the reunion of Jin and Sun would make me cry like a little bitch for weeks/months now!

When they came together tonight...it didn't do much for me. It was so sudden and abruptly ended. But I guess that's the point.

I was more moved when Sawyer found Jin in the forest in season 5 and hugged him.

maybe they should get married

So I've been telling everyone and thinking the reunion of Jin and Sun would make me cry like a little bitch for weeks/months now!

When they came together tonight...it didn't do much for me. It was so sudden and abruptly ended. But I guess that's the point.

I was more moved when Sawyer found Jin in the forest in season 5 and hugged him.

maybe they should get married

You need to get out more if this show makes you want to cry, even worse look forward to crying.

Rider is obviously way above this show.

Rider is obviously way above this show.

Do you need a hug?

no, but you can suck on my cock if you want

no, but you can suck on my cock if you want

Thanks, I'm flattered but I don't swing that way. Keep trying I'm sure you'll find someone who will take up your offer. I hear they have bars just for your type of people now.

i just accidentally read some major spoilers, i clicked out before viewing them in full, DarkUFO - LOST Homepage (http://www.darkufo.blogspot.com) for deets. highlight below for what i remember.

jin and sun die, widmore dies, sayid redeems himself and dies, sub blows up

^ Stupid ads highlighted the word Syaid. Great, now I know Sayid is involved. Fuck!

I can't believe Frank was killed by a door

Shit! Why did I highlight that spoiler just to satisfy my curiosity thinking that it was only about last night's casualties?!