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Rider
04-08-2010, 12:33 AM
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Imagine going back and talking to yourself back then and explaining to yourself that all your fans are assholes.

Watching these old videos when he was young and still pretending he was in the cure I suddenly got really fucking pissed off about his attitude he started developing around '94 when he would just rant and talk about how horrible his life is and everyone sucks.

Just remember at one point you were the out of tune cable access band and were damn fucking happy to be there.

Monet LSD
04-08-2010, 12:56 AM
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Araneae
04-08-2010, 01:11 AM
Most people would argue that Billy was always an asshole but he definitely started going downhill around '94. I used to think '96 or '97 was the absolute pinnacle of his assholeness but he has certainly proved me wrong this year. Fame was certainly not a good thing for Billy.

Rider
04-08-2010, 01:29 AM
Most people would argue that Billy was always an asshole but he definitely started going downhill around '94. I used to think '96 or '97 was the absolute pinnacle of his assholeness but he has certainly proved me wrong this year. Fame was certainly not a good thing for Billy.

I had the joy of watching him rant for 2 hours at Lollapalooza in '94. I'm still going to punch him in the face and ask for a refund if I ever see him.

Starla
04-08-2010, 01:39 AM
we used to get good music now we get obelisks

if pearl jam starts handing out toys with their cd's ....

scottytheoneand
03-23-2012, 10:10 AM
out of tune?

Jimmy was never out of tune

reprise85
03-23-2012, 11:46 AM
this is the show we're getting with the PI reissue, right?

great poster
03-23-2012, 11:55 AM
such a cheesy vid, but i love it. before billy had developed his whiny voice...

reprise85
03-23-2012, 12:00 PM
yeah jimmy's drum stick flip made me giggle

great poster
03-23-2012, 12:13 PM
a bit unrelated, but does anyone know what 7:05 in this video is from? or if there's some sort of extended footage of it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP7hpWywrW8&feature=related
looks like they were arguing about something.

reprise85
03-23-2012, 12:17 PM
my thought when i first saw it is it's staged. maybe cut from vieuphoria?

would be interesting to see more either way

aztec litany service
03-23-2012, 12:27 PM
he should either play that mustang or give it to me

ping-ping
03-23-2012, 07:36 PM
a bit unrelated, but does anyone know what 7:05 in this video is from? or if there's some sort of extended footage of it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP7hpWywrW8&feature=related
looks like they were arguing about something.

Sounds like Billy said, "It's not our [my?] fault." No one really looks angry though. Probably just Billy whinging about yet another perceived injustice to him/the band.

Shallowed
03-24-2012, 12:49 AM
This whole thread reads like it was posted today and not two years ago.

Shallowed
03-24-2012, 12:54 AM
he should either play that mustang or give it to me

SP's guitar tone was really weird in this era. I wonder how much of it can be attributed to the Mustang. I think you can make the two pickups out of phase with each other. Also I wonder what pedals and amps they commonly used back then. There seems to be a glimpse of a Roland amp in the video... too bad Billy's guitar is completely muted in the video. If it is going to be issued with PI like reprise said, I hope at least that gets fixed. I can live with shitty tape hiss.

I had the joy of watching him rant for 2 hours at Lollapalooza in '94. I'm still going to punch him in the face and ask for a refund if I ever see him.

What show was this?

great poster
03-24-2012, 01:51 AM
Sounds like Billy said, "It's not our [my?] fault." No one really looks angry though. Probably just Billy whinging about yet another perceived injustice to him/the band.

jimmy seemed a bit upset, or maybe just indifferent. he was looking down sort of fidgeting with something.

reprise85
03-24-2012, 03:36 AM
jimmy's too busy thinking how he's gonna get his next fix to get emotionally involved

RenewRevive
03-24-2012, 09:16 AM
What show was this?

iirc the meltdown was at the NY show, if this is the one Rider is referring to.

Grox
03-24-2012, 11:26 AM
08/05/94 is the meltdown, 08/06/94 is one of the best shows they ever played

duovamp
03-24-2012, 12:08 PM
BE SOMEONE ELSE FOR ME OR I'LL BE SO FUCKING PISSED!!!

slunken
03-24-2012, 12:10 PM
oh yea - the show where's he's yelling at the moustaches.

haha now it's beards.

Shallowed
03-25-2012, 01:49 AM
That's one of my most listened to SP boots. :erm:

stumpycat
03-25-2012, 02:19 AM
SP's guitar tone was really weird in this era. I wonder how much of it can be attributed to the Mustang. I think you can make the two pickups out of phase with each other. ?

I think you may be onto something there. It seems like there's that slight out of phase chorusing present whenever a Mustang is being used.

Trotskilicious
03-25-2012, 04:31 AM
he can't hear you rider

vixnix
03-25-2012, 07:31 PM
I find James so hot in that video. I kinda wondered what d'arcy saw in him up 'till now but he was actually pretty hot.

null123
03-25-2012, 07:34 PM
I just got caught in an SP youtube vortex

Billy was pretty hot here

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reprise85
03-25-2012, 07:44 PM
yeah black hair billy is the sexiest billy

slunken
03-25-2012, 08:52 PM
wow i had never seen that clip before and i thought i'd pretty much seen them all.

my inital thought was billy has always been so concerned with the concept of validity. he shows this in interviews and in song, both past and present. it clicked watching this.

also agree about black hair post sd - pre mcis billy

also this interview could have easily taken place now. the ideas he talks about are really no different than what he is expressing now. if that's good or bad is up to anyone i suppose.

billyswilly
03-25-2012, 08:59 PM
Yeah guys, I totally agree with what's been said here. However, on the other hand...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVJeOCRjSS4&feature=youtu.be

billyswilly
03-25-2012, 09:02 PM
Not to mention, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDqr6bXpKs&context=C42165c4ADvjVQa1PpcFP9S8Er5yVbPvmgPCpp6Y-zzQC9QF7CicI=

Dogfighter28
03-25-2012, 09:38 PM
Not to mention, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDqr6bXpKs&context=C42165c4ADvjVQa1PpcFP9S8Er5yVbPvmgPCpp6Y-zzQC9QF7CicI=

absolutely groundbreaking

reprise85
03-25-2012, 09:43 PM
good grief

great poster
03-26-2012, 01:40 AM
Not to mention, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDqr6bXpKs&context=C42165c4ADvjVQa1PpcFP9S8Er5yVbPvmgPCpp6Y-zzQC9QF7CicI=

loving all of these new songs, thx for linking. oceania will bring SP back into the mainstream for sure.

Shallowed
03-26-2012, 02:39 AM
also this interview could have easily taken place now. the ideas he talks about are really no different than what he is expressing now. if that's good or bad is up to anyone i suppose.

This is exactly what I was thinking watching that.

Also I'm gay now.

Grox
03-26-2012, 10:15 AM
his hair isn't black there, it's brown, 1993, didnt he only dye his hair in 1995 when he had like none left...

billyswilly
03-26-2012, 10:42 AM
loving all of these new songs, thx for linking. oceania will bring SP back into the mainstream for sure.

thanks, people like you are why I continue to leak the new material, maybe you would enjoy one of James Iha's latest ballads too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDOv8xx3_c4&context=C44e0b4fADvjVQa1PpcFP9S8Er5yVbPqxsm4PFsu_K tXX8NDR1rYA=

Rider
03-26-2012, 03:24 PM
he can't hear you rider

You do realize you are trolling a post I made years ago, right? :rolleyes:

brendo_91
03-27-2012, 03:59 AM
I think you may be onto something there. It seems like there's that slight out of phase chorusing present whenever a Mustang is being used.

Sounds like the chorus in the ADA MP-1 preamp to me. I know because I have an ADA MP-1.

Trotskilicious
03-27-2012, 04:19 AM
You do realize you are trolling a post I made years ago, right? :rolleyes:

i'm sorry they all seem the same

also if it was dumb two years ago it's still dumb

Cool As Ice Cream
03-27-2012, 12:37 PM
I have to say that I totally agree with your perspective views concerning the issues we face.It is a dark time.Your status in life is a blessing.You are an instrument,a voice that can be heard by billions.Many hear you and are on the same page with you.WoW!!!Thank God for all the Billy Corgans of the world.

Cool As Ice Cream
03-27-2012, 12:40 PM
You are an instrument,a voice that can be heard by billions.

remember: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=162886
Andrew says (9:41 AM):
Why does America resist the metric system? its easier to use and is used by 99% of the world
MonteLDS says (9:41 AM):
A couple of billion ppl changing to C would be pretty stupid
MonteLDS says (9:41 AM):
Yuck to that too
Andrew says (9:41 AM):
??? its only america that hasn't changed to C, last time I checked you didn't have a few billion people
MonteLDS says (9:42 AM):
U figure out a way to teach billions of ppl a new system
Andrew says (9:42 AM):
billions live in the U.S.?
MonteLDS says (9:42 AM):
We have more than cannada and that all that matters
MonteLDS says (9:42 AM):
Check wiki
MonteLDS says (9:42 AM):
I got to go
MonteLDS says (4:35 PM):
So what does the usa have half a billion
Andrew says (4:36 PM):
http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html
Andrew says (4:36 PM):
how do you not know this?
Andrew says (4:37 PM):
i find it somewhat disturbing that you thought billions of people live in the U.S.
MonteLDS says (4:37 PM):
Because I don't read census pages
Andrew says (4:37 PM):
its fairly common knowledge that 300million live in the u.s. and there is 6+ billion in the world
MonteLDS says (4:38 PM):
I think it is b/c all of these "joke" cities we have
Andrew says (4:38 PM):
are you not taught things like this in american schools?
MonteLDS says (4:39 PM):
Do u know how long ago It was since I was in school taught this kind of pointless info
Andrew says (4:40 PM):
its not pointless info, the fact you don't know simple stuff like this shows a great level of ignorance
MonteLDS says (4:40 PM):
The argument is trying to tell a large num of ppl that we need to start using the crappy metric system and temps in c
MonteLDS says (4:40 PM):
So u think your all that b/c u know how many ppl are in the usa
MonteLDS says (4:41 PM):
Give me a break
MonteLDS says (4:42 PM):
That's just arrogance on your part
Andrew says (4:42 PM):
The point is 6.3 billion people in the world, roughly 96% of the whole worlds population uses the metric system, why is your country still using out dated inefficent system
MonteLDS says (4:43 PM):
Yes and everyone thought the world was flat too
Andrew says (4:44 PM):
a lot of people in your country still do
MonteLDS says (4:44 PM):
Here do u get this arrogant idea frok
MonteLDS says (4:44 PM):
From*
MonteLDS says (4:45 PM):
I am possibly going lose cell signal as I go thru the backroads
Andrew says (4:45 PM):
you are the one coming off as arrogant trying to defend Americas non-use of the metric system
MonteLDS says (4:45 PM):
Just as a fair warning

Trotskilicious
03-27-2012, 02:07 PM
you know just a couple billions

Trotskilicious
03-27-2012, 02:07 PM
nbd

xforewarnedx
03-28-2012, 02:34 PM
I had the joy of watching him rant for 2 hours at Lollapalooza in '94. I'm still going to punch him in the face and ask for a refund if I ever see him.

what rant are you referring to?

Cool As Ice Cream
03-29-2012, 05:04 AM
the two hour one, at lollapalooza, in '94.

Trotskilicious
03-29-2012, 04:16 PM
joke cities

joke cities like riverside and salt lake city

number in the megabillions