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Gossamer
03-11-2010, 10:02 PM
but thefutureembrace is not sounding so bad right now

at least billy was making some interesting sounds in that era

Araneae
03-11-2010, 10:08 PM
I admit it. I like the album. You can hear a lot of good new wave and synthpop influences in that one.

samuel redman
03-11-2010, 10:21 PM
probably my favorite album of the past 10 years

Reyngel
03-11-2010, 11:13 PM
His best shit since 2000, for sure. It's not ridiculously pretentious or shallow. It's just great creativity. And on a good system, it sounds awesome.

paranoid
03-11-2010, 11:25 PM
the album has half good songs and half bad ones.

killtrocity
03-11-2010, 11:33 PM
mina loy is great. some good stuff on TFE

dustrock
03-11-2010, 11:36 PM
the album has half good songs and half bad ones.

:banging:

redbull
03-11-2010, 11:41 PM
good songs:
Mina Loy
Camera Eye
To Love Somebody
A100
DIA
Now and Then
Walking Shade
Tilt

ok songs:
All Things Change
Sorrow
Pretty Pretty Star

utter fucking shit:
I'm Ready
Strayz

Caine Walker
03-11-2010, 11:43 PM
one or two good songs, the rest are either pretty meh or just awful. i don't know why people defend this album.

TuralyonW3
03-12-2010, 12:07 AM
he was at least making something that was a little exciting.

redbreegull
03-12-2010, 12:26 AM
I pretty much agree with redbull's categorization but I think I'm Ready is a lot worse than any of the others. It's not a great record by any stretch, but it's still interesting and it has some good songs on it. A lot better than the vast bulk of anything he has done since.

Pop Tart
03-12-2010, 12:29 AM
I love Tilt. It's cute. The one thing I didn't like about that CD is the feedback or distortion or whatever it is on some of the songs. Maybe I'm not musically sophisticated enough to appreciate it because it just annoyed me. I think TFE deserved more kudos than it got at the time.

Also, yay to drunkenness. :loaded:

paranoid
03-12-2010, 12:31 AM
i loved the guitar tone on that record, as well as the playing.

redbreegull
03-12-2010, 12:34 AM
i loved the guitar tone on that record, as well as the playing.

I really like the super-overdriven, compressed tone as well. The style is pretty outside the box for Billy.

Dogfighter28
03-12-2010, 12:43 AM
I <3 All Things Change, Walking Shade... and that's about it. There's some other okay ones but those are the only ones I care about.

DiscoJon
03-12-2010, 12:45 AM
I still don't understand why he left "Tilt" off of TFE.

Probably the same reason Riverview, Friends as Lovers and A New Poetry were left off of the Zwan album.

applepwnz
03-12-2010, 01:22 AM
yay to drunkeness :cheers:
but I seriously never enjoyed this album, I deleted it from my iTunes pretty soon after I downloaded it.

Pop Tart
03-12-2010, 02:07 AM
I deleted it from my iTunes pretty soon after I downloaded it.
I did that with Zeitgeist.

T&T
03-12-2010, 03:16 AM
fuck drunk
funk druk
maybe it's because i'm a a little drunk
but i don't think gossamer was as good as the other version. silverfuck.

killtrocity
03-12-2010, 03:34 AM
at least TFE was real, everything since zeitgeist has been bs

redbull
03-12-2010, 04:49 AM
you know what was an awesome song? mini

lambert
03-12-2010, 05:33 AM
I'm Ready is my least favorite of any Billy songs, Pumpkins or solo. It makes me physically angry and reminds me of Spongebob Squarepants at the same time.

Other than that, I still give the album a spin when I'm driving late at night. I can dig it.

Shallowed
03-12-2010, 05:35 AM
you know what was an awesome song? mini

You know what an awesome penis size to have is? Mini.

Springbridge
03-12-2010, 08:51 AM
I loooved TFE. I am sad he didn't play Bit5 in Toronto, I love that song and it also has my favorite light show on the LED background screens.

Enzo Gorlami
03-12-2010, 09:16 AM
good songs:
Mina Loy
Camera Eye
To Love Somebody
A100
DIA
Now and Then
Walking Shade
Tilt

ok songs:
All Things Change
Sorrow
Pretty Pretty Star

utter fucking shit:
I'm Ready
Strayz

100% correct

CourtJaster
03-12-2010, 09:22 AM
WTF? I thought 90% of TFE sucked a dick.

cork_soaker
03-12-2010, 09:57 AM
I really like the super-overdriven, compressed tone as well. The style is pretty outside the box for Billy.

:nuke:

Caine Walker
03-12-2010, 10:34 AM
gargling smegma (my favorite new word).

D:

Pop Tart
03-12-2010, 11:46 AM
I like TFE more than MSOTS and anything billy has done with SP2. I wish he would be more experimental with his song writing again.
His experimental stuff can be good, but it can also be so off the wire that only he's able to appreciate it. That's why I stopped buying SP music - I didn't like it, and I felt like I was paying for Billy to play around and find himself (and he's got more money than me).

AveryLoren
03-12-2010, 12:45 PM
Is there any TFE Era compilation? I haven't heard Mini or the Bits

srt4b
03-12-2010, 04:30 PM
TFE feels like I follow up to Adore to me. Just like Adore it has 5-6 good songs, 1-2 ok, and the rest are pretty bad.

redbull
03-12-2010, 04:36 PM
TFE feels like I follow up to Adore to me. Just like Adore it has 5-6 good songs, 1-2 ok, and the rest are pretty bad.

FAIL

waltermcphilp
03-12-2010, 04:49 PM
TFE feels like I follow up to Adore to me. Just like Adore it has 5-6 good songs, 1-2 ok, and the rest are pretty bad.

Cite your sources.

Pop Tart
03-12-2010, 05:24 PM
Is there any TFE Era compilation? I haven't heard Mini or the Bits
Now that RSPAA's gone, you'd have to look around for them. :confused:

AveryLoren
03-12-2010, 07:25 PM
I found bit 4, 7 and 5 anyone have bit 2 and mini? highly appreciate them!

Catherine Wheel
03-12-2010, 08:33 PM
To Love Somebody is so haunting and beautiful. Most of the album is heartwrenching but that song he did with Robert Smith is just overwhelmingly sad.

slunken
03-12-2010, 09:37 PM
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Rowsdower?

thomas_bland
03-12-2010, 11:03 PM
good songs:
Mina Loy
Camera
To Love Somebody
A100
DIA
Now and Then
Shade
Tilt

ok songs:
All Things Change
Sorrow
Pretty Pretty Star

utter fucking shit:
I'm Ready
Strayz

Totally agree, at the time I just resented it because it wasn't Chicago Songs.

Pop Tart
03-12-2010, 11:42 PM
I found bit 4, 7 and 5 anyone have bit 2 and mini? highly appreciate them!
I've got Mini from an Amsterdam show. Where do ya want it?

redbull
03-12-2010, 11:59 PM
uh mini definitely wasn't played at amsterdam...


btw, anyone got the acoustic to love somebody from that milan fan meetup?

redbreegull
03-13-2010, 05:00 AM
TFE feels like I follow up to Adore to me. Just like Adore it has 5-6 good songs, 1-2 ok, and the rest are pretty bad.

idiot

Pop Tart
03-13-2010, 06:10 AM
uh mini definitely wasn't played at amsterdam...

Siva : Tour Dates : June 9, 2005 - Paradiso at Amsterdam, Netherlands (http://www.blamo.org/sp/tour/148.html)

Pop Tart
03-13-2010, 02:01 PM
:bananamac:bananamac:bananamac:bananamac:bananamac

redbreegull
03-13-2010, 02:15 PM
Siva : Tour Dates : June 9, 2005 - Paradiso at Amsterdam, Netherlands (http://www.blamo.org/sp/tour/148.html)

who now is the master?

AveryLoren
03-13-2010, 04:09 PM
Were the Bits actually played live or was it over the pa? just wondering if there might be studio recording of them in the vaults

redbull
03-13-2010, 04:21 PM
2, 4, and 7 were PA, 5 was live

AveryLoren
03-13-2010, 04:22 PM
cool thanks for the info

charade
03-13-2010, 09:57 PM
good songs:
To Love Somebody
Mina Loy
A100
DIA
Walking Shade
Tilt





ok songs:
All Things Change
Now and Then

...just these songs and tfe had been a good album basically. ;-)

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utter fucking shit:
Pretty Pretty Star (I remember one part of this song had something like emotions... but it was just too short... rest of the song he sounds like a little child playing in the garden with flowers...)
Strayz (this is as boring as sitting in a zen-position)
Camera Eye (this is probably one of the worst songs I know...)
I'm Ready (the instrumental-intro ist good. interesting sound/harmonies. very 80ies-like. yet the vocal-melody is horrible!)
Sorrow (the refrain is not sooo bad but the verse sounds like from a nursery rhyme)

these songs are so bad that they destroy the whole album...

paranoid
03-14-2010, 12:15 AM
now and then is a good example of a tune that starts out great, has a great idea initially but doesn't develop from there.. it just stays at the same boring place and doesn't go anywhere. this is reflective of the entire album.

paranoid
03-14-2010, 12:16 AM
also.. 'you were mine,' was this song written during this era?

AveryLoren
03-14-2010, 12:46 AM
You think billy made other bit tracks for the missing numbers like bit 1 etc? is there a studio version of Never Too Young?

Shallowed
03-14-2010, 01:01 AM
I haven't heard of Never Too Young. If it's a cover song then it will have been because I'd have ignored it, so is it a cover song?

arCHI
03-14-2010, 01:03 AM
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Rowsdower?

haha major hockey hair.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rxaWqdeMFEQ/RrFOaIyfaZI/AAAAAAAAAC4/ma8jHKWd0yc/s400/eeeah.jpg

AveryLoren
03-14-2010, 03:22 AM
I don't know if its a cover or not
spfc.org : tour history - songs : Never Too Young (http://www.spfc.org/tours/song.html?song_id=827)

redbull
03-14-2010, 03:26 AM
you were mine was a chicago song. it also popped up during some of the poetry reading shows and at that one benefit show in september 04, along with come back home and say goodbye

never too young is an original i think