View Full Version : Genocide is such a mean word: Obama folds on Armenian Genocide


Luke's Wall
03-07-2010, 03:10 PM
Two years ago, I criticized the Secretary of State for the firing of U.S. Ambassador to Armenia, John Evans, after he properly used the term 'genocide' to describe Turkey's slaughter of thousands of Armenians starting in 1915. … as President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide.

- PolitiFact | Recognize the Armenian genocide - Obama promise No. 511: (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/511/recognize-armenian-genocide/)


What lofty words. Strong Words. The words of a candidate who'll stand up for what's right in the world, who won't ignore blatant abuses for "convenient political reasons". Sure he's folded on lots of domestic issues, but we can at least blame the Republicans or the pressure of getting a new administration up and running. Something like recognizing a genocide would surely be a commitment that couldn't be turned away from. Oh wait. It's the Obama Administration.

The Obama administration has said it will seek to block a controversial bill describing as genocide the World War I killing of Armenians by Turks.

A congressional panel on Thursday approved the resolution, paving the way for a possible vote by the House.

But US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the administration would "work very hard" to prevent this.

Turkey voiced strong protests after the vote and recalled its ambassador from Washington for consultations.

Clinton said the administration would seek to block the bill
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country had been accused of a crime it did not commit, adding the resolution would harm Turkish-US relations.

President Abdullah Gul said Turkey - a key Nato ally of the US - would "not be responsible for the negative results that this event may lead to".

Change of position

Mrs Clinton - who had urged the House Foreign Affairs Committee not to hold the vote - said on Friday: "We are against this decision. Now we believe that the US Congress will not take any decision on this subject."

A similar resolution was approved by the same committee two years ago, but did not go forward to the House after pressure from the George W Bush administration.

Turkey is a major partner in US efforts to stabilise Afghanistan and Iraq, and lies on a key route taking oil and natural gas to Western markets.

Ankara accepts that atrocities were committed but argues they were part of the war and that there was no systematic attempt to destroy Christian Armenians.

During his campaign for the 2008 election, Mr Obama promised to brand the mass killings genocide.

Mrs Clinton has acknowledged his administration's change of opinion on the issue, saying circumstances had "changed in very significant ways".

In October last year, Turkey and Armenia signed a historic accord normalising relations between them after a century of hostility.

Armenia wants Turkey to recognise the killings as an act of genocide, but successive Turkish governments have refused to do so.

Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in 1915, when they were deported en masse from eastern Anatolia by the Ottoman Empire. They were killed by troops or died from starvation and disease.

Armenians have campaigned for the killings to be recognised internationally as genocide - and more than 20 countries have done so.

BBC News - US administration to block vote on Turkey 'genocide' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8553013.stm)


So what's going on? It should not be this difficult to keep a campaign promise that has nothing to do with domestic politics and is firmly rooted in fact. The only conclusion to draw from this is that the Obama Administration is a cowardly one which will fold under absolutely any pressure.

redbreegull
03-07-2010, 03:18 PM
Thumbs down Obama. Really lame.

TuralyonW3
03-07-2010, 03:21 PM
oh man i bet srj tankadankn is really pissed

hnibos
03-07-2010, 03:32 PM
maybe as a presidential candidate he wasn't aware of the relationship between usa and turkey, and now that hes president someone told him that they are supposed to be friends

what if thats really the case

Future Boy
03-07-2010, 03:40 PM
hey there's a thread for this stuff

Order 66
03-07-2010, 03:58 PM
oh man i bet srj tankadankn is really pissed

I bet System of a Down is too. that about wraps it up for obama

Gish08
03-07-2010, 06:15 PM
No balls. None

Future Boy
03-07-2010, 08:00 PM
He's genuine though, he doesnt need balls.

Future Boy
03-07-2010, 08:01 PM
Probably more than JFK, Reagan, and Clinton combined.

Toast
03-07-2010, 10:50 PM
The United States will never recognize war crimes unless they're very widely publicized and recognized as a "very bad thing."

Evidence: These bastards are still alive because we cut a deal with them. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731)

Gish08
03-08-2010, 06:56 PM
Probably more than JFK, Reagan, and Clinton combined.
I was talking about his speaking ability

Future Boy
03-08-2010, 07:14 PM
duh

Nimrod's Son
03-08-2010, 11:03 PM
Obama the smooth talking candidate is starting to realize there's more to being president than simply saying things that sound good in sound bites.

How is that diplomacy option with Iran working out?

rhinthell
03-20-2010, 11:43 AM
I think it's definitely interesting that knowing what is going on behind the scenes makes him change so many tactics. It's a huge shame that our government is so fixed on its path (or that he is too scared to try to change it)

Trotskilicious
03-22-2010, 10:55 PM
america waged the most successful campaign of ethnic cleansing in world history

Trotskilicious
03-22-2010, 10:56 PM
when is yawl gonna WAKE UP