View Full Version : Here Is No Why vs. Hello Kitty Kat


Catherine Wheel
01-19-2010, 03:54 PM
Which song has the better guitar solo? Which song is overall better?

SPLATTER
01-19-2010, 04:04 PM
Here, Kitty

redbull
01-19-2010, 04:26 PM
kitty kat. can't fucking beat that fuzz

Rickpat12
01-19-2010, 04:30 PM
^agreed

Catherine Wheel
01-19-2010, 04:49 PM
I'd have to say Here Is No Why. I love the solo so much in that one. It's fairly subdued compared to his other solos but it conveys so much emotion. The solo in Hello Kitty Kat is very good but it seems more flashy.

duovamp
01-19-2010, 05:01 PM
Tough call. The answer to all these questions is entirely mood dependent.

slunken
01-19-2010, 05:06 PM
Here is No Why because the demo for HKK is better than the studio release and the demo of HINW is acoustic. More points.

dustrock
01-19-2010, 05:13 PM
Kitty Kat is in my top 10 SP tracks and the solo is one of my favorite things.

slunken
01-19-2010, 05:17 PM
i have no favorite things :(

Astur
01-19-2010, 05:19 PM
It is a difficult choice because Here Is No Why is so shiny and beautiful, but Hello Kitty Kat is even better

paranoid
01-19-2010, 05:25 PM
both tunes are in my top 10 all time favs. i would rank hinw higher.. but it's a tough call.

Gish08
01-19-2010, 05:28 PM
Hello Kitty Kat, the demo.

SPLATTER
01-19-2010, 05:29 PM
Here is No Why because the A for HKK is better than the studio release and the demo of HINW is acoustic. More points.

with all due respect, the demo is not better, imo

dustrock
01-19-2010, 05:31 PM
with all due respect, the demo is not better, imo

winner of Most Polite Netphorian Award.

june_soma
01-19-2010, 05:40 PM
Oh great, now my drunken mind must ponder this all night. Right off the bat I'd say there are no losers in this competition, but maybe I'm a little partial to the young feel and passion in Hello Kitty Kat.

Skradgee
01-19-2010, 05:59 PM
Here Is No Why, all the way.

SpFission
01-19-2010, 06:03 PM
Here is no Why

Delicieuxz
01-19-2010, 06:06 PM
hinw

duovamp
01-19-2010, 06:15 PM
Here is No Why because the demo for HKK is better than the studio release and the demo of HINW is acoustic. More points.

The only thing saving Hello Kitty Kat in demo form is the line "Don't you wanna be mah frand?"

slunken
01-19-2010, 07:12 PM
But the solo is much better on the demo. Maybe it's just longer though.

Shallowed
01-19-2010, 07:38 PM
Stylistically, these solos are like apples and oranges. I can't really choose which is "better," they're both as good as each other in terms of what they add to the song and what they express.

Delicieuxz
01-19-2010, 09:55 PM
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TuralyonW3
01-19-2010, 10:11 PM
here, tie

TuralyonW3
01-19-2010, 10:16 PM
ah the days of passionate performnces

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TuralyonW3
01-19-2010, 10:20 PM
what happened to this band

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TuralyonW3
01-19-2010, 10:27 PM
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Skradgee
01-19-2010, 10:27 PM
ah the days of passionate performnces

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agh. which show is this?

CrabbMan
01-19-2010, 10:35 PM
I think HKK has the more interesting solo, in that it's a little subtler and isn't so much the typical ascension/descension solo.
Always fun to take a close listen. These songs are amazing. Yeah, redbull, that fuzz is unbeatable. . . even the bass is fuzzy. They're both super fun to sing; you can just wail at the top of your lungs.

dustrock
01-19-2010, 10:53 PM
here is no why has some of billy's best singing I think.

Shallowed
01-20-2010, 12:23 AM
They're both super fun to sing; you can just wail at the top of your lungs.

Yeah, HINW is pretty exhilarating to play guitar to and sing. Like you MEAN it.

nofix
01-20-2010, 05:57 PM
depressing living the original sp era, now, only to remember it by videos, rather than the circus show they call sp now.

isnt it funny how billy likes to take all credit for sp, but, since he's been on his own, hasn't really done anything comparable to the original sp.

Springbridge
01-20-2010, 06:05 PM
depressing living the original sp era, now, only to remember it by videos, rather than the circus show they call sp now.

isnt it funny how billy likes to take all credit for sp, but, since he's been on his own, hasn't really done anything comparable to the original sp.

Nice thread derailing, good job.

Here is no Why is a better song, Hello Kitty Kat has a better guitar solo.

ninsp
01-20-2010, 07:54 PM
depressing living the original sp era, now, only to remember it by videos, rather than the circus show they call sp now.

isnt it funny how billy likes to take all credit for sp, but, since he's been on his own, hasn't really done anything comparable to the original sp.

Tarantula doesn't exist then, and neither does Superchrist.

Ugly
01-20-2010, 10:00 PM
Here is No Why, it's riff-tastic!

Catherine Wheel
01-20-2010, 10:54 PM
When I listen to the solo from Hello Kitty Kat I immediately think of Hendrix. The Here Is No Why solo seems more unique. Less psychedelic.

Shallowed
01-20-2010, 11:16 PM
Tarantula doesn't exist then, and neither does Superchrist.

I think I could comfortably live in a parallel universe where the songs Tarantula and Superchrist never existed.

stumpycat
01-20-2010, 11:28 PM
When I listen to the solo from Hello Kitty Kat I immediately think of Hendrix. The Here Is No Why solo seems more unique. Less psychedelic.
I always thought the HINW solo sounded Weezer-esque. Also: what makes a solo "psychedelic"?

Catherine Wheel
01-20-2010, 11:33 PM
It sounds like psychedelic rock from the 60s. Something Hendrix would play.

Shallowed
01-20-2010, 11:52 PM
I managed pretty well before I had heard it.

Ugly
01-21-2010, 12:06 AM
I think you might want to reconsider. How could you live having never heard "I don't want to fight, every single night?"

"Wherever you are, you're a star."

Shallowed
01-21-2010, 12:18 AM
"Wherever you are, you're a star."

That's not even bad, and even if it was, the other 99.9% of the song more than makes up for it.

slunken
01-21-2010, 08:11 AM
I think you might want to reconsider. How could you live having never heard "I don't want to fight, every single night?"

I always pretend I'm Joey Ramone singing that.

sniffingchimp
01-21-2010, 08:47 AM
It's a difficult one but I'd go for HINW.

Slurpee
01-21-2010, 09:05 AM
Kitty Kat, because it makes me want to jump up and down the moment it starts. HINW only gets me going for the second half of the song.

RenewRevive
01-21-2010, 10:47 AM
Both great songs, but Here is No Why is one of the very best.

Once of life's unanswerables: how has Corgan played HMM seemingly thousands of times since 2000 and hinw not once since 96?

Slurpee
01-21-2010, 03:41 PM
Once of life's unanswerables: how has Corgan played HMM seemingly thousands of times since 2000 and hinw not once since 96?

That's really, truly depressing.

ninsp
01-21-2010, 04:03 PM
A lot about Billy these days is depressing.

Ugly
01-21-2010, 05:36 PM
That's not even bad, and even if it was, the other 99.9% of the song more than makes up for it.

It's a simplistic rhyme the way Corgan has always had simplistic rhymes ever since he started writing, "I don't wanna fight every single night" is about as good as "life's a bummer when you're a hummer" fer crissakes. It's not as if he <I>suddenly</I> developed a predilection for simple mind-numbingly easy rhyming schemes.

Ugly
01-21-2010, 05:38 PM
"Planned a show tries and balloons, ice cream show see you in june." It's kind of a pattern.

stumpycat
01-21-2010, 11:02 PM
So long as we're talking about Hello Kitty Kat and song lyrics: "But I aim to please that little girl inside of me, too"...WTF? Strange lyrics for such a "passive-aggressive" sound (well, that's how Billy describes it in the PI booklet, and I tend to agree.)

Shallowed
01-22-2010, 12:33 AM
Good Lordy Lord, those lyrics are rather glorious.

Spira|_
01-24-2010, 07:30 PM
Here is no why by far! On my SP top.

Because:
1) One of the songs with more feeling and emotion Billy wrote;
2) It has the beautiful Billy's voice which made me fall in love by them, that smooth voice with heavy guitars are the recipe for me;
3) Crazy awsome guitar riffs, with feeling itself;
4) Epic song name.
( 5) And it has one of the best demos ever made on this planet )


HKK is pretty good too, the buzz guitars are authentic Pumpkins.