So everyone's got like an hour before you can't sign up for the pickem.

Who is the owner of "beerviewmirror"?

I'm ready to see some SEC dominance today. Oklahoma State should put up a good fight vs. Georgia though. Also looking forward to seeing Notre Dame flop, please god.

ok state over georgia

im rooting for notre dame only because of weis

Texas wins the national title, nothing else really matters.

Go Navy!

I like the way you think, Eulogy.

ROLL TIDE YOU FUCKERS

Also good games y'all looks like I'm holding up my end of the pickem as well.

Georgia is the only dissapointment of the weekend so far, although it was inevitable with the loss of Stafford and Moreno.

lol OU...

Oklahoma State possibly going to a BCS game, Texas winning the national championship, and OU losing the first week. This could be the greatest year in college football ever.

it's been a week but yes, lolklahoma.

Sam Bradford must be feeling pretty shitty about not going to the draft

ROLL TIDE YOU FUCKERS

Also good games y'all looks like I'm holding up my end of the pickem as well.

Georgia is the only dissapointment of the weekend so far, although it was inevitable with the loss of Stafford and Moreno.
I'm kinda scared of Bama now. I was kinda hoping that they'd have a little more trouble putting up points with the new QB and all.

I consider the Georgia loss a little bittersweet. I would have liked to see them win, represent the SEC well, then move up to 2-0 and high ranked before they come to Arkansas in two weeks. But on the other hand, it is good to know they are beatable.

I was at the Razorback game tonight, and they looked 100 percent better than last year (Ryan Mallett is the real deal at QB. He was VERY impressive). With Georgia looking vulnerable now, I'm really looking forward to seeing the Bulldogs come to Fayetteville in a couple weeks.

. Also looking forward to seeing Notre Dame flop, please god.

ahhhhahahahahahaha

still haven't shown they can run between the tackles, and clausen's bombs kinda float, but with tate and floyd out there that might not even be a problem.

those are my only complaints. they looked pretty fucking good.

shut your fucking pie hole

what why

because i hate notre dame

lol at oregon and ou. Texas should have smooth sailing unless osu is actually really good.

Texas has some tough games.

Colorado, Oklahoma, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Baylor, and Kansas are no cupcakes this year

Texas has some tough games.

Colorado, Missouri, Baylor, and Kansas are no cupcakes this year

what did i miss

what did i miss

Well Baylor has a Heisman hopeful from what I hear at QB and Missouri looked really good blowing out Illinois

Colorado is on the rise last time I checked and Kansas is probably the worst of that list but I just like to think about Mangino and laugh

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lolling @ everyone who picked Ole Miss and LSU to finish ahead of Bama in the SEC West.

lolling @ everyone who picked Ole Miss and LSU to finish ahead of Bama in the SEC West.

Yeah. I watched most of Ole Miss/Memphis. Number 8 team in the country my ass. Bama will destroy them. And they'll also lose to LSU and Arkansas at the least. 9-3 is the best that bunch will be able to hope for.

jczeroman is still around, right? i dont want dogfighter making these weekly threads

so illinois is going to suck again i assume

didn't you hear the criticize dogfighter for everything he posts bandwagon fell apart

seriously what's your beef shapan

It's nice to see U of M actually getting back to not only beating, but smacking around cupcake schools. What a difference a year, and a semi-competent QB, makes.

ND will be a test for the defense. Michigan has the benefit of playing at home, but ND looked pretty good this weekend.

didn't you hear the criticize dogfighter for everything he posts bandwagon fell apart

seriously what's your beef shapan

im a real casual football fan so watching him bring the info and convo strong from the getgo always made these threads a cool read right away and pushed them along better than if most other people made them. plus just the familiarity

its not so much you as it is just partly you. i suck at talking football and i make really generic football statements really but i still like reading good posts about it. dude was good at jumpstarting that.

baylor will always suck bro

oh shit i'm winning

seriously lol baylor hahah what the fuck ever

they are still finishing fucking last

Baylor might finish third in the Big XII South, dude. Depends if OK State completes their annual collapse toward the end of the season or not. Hell, depending on Bradford Baylor might only lose to Texas in the Big XII.

no they won't

maybe fifth but give me a fucking break dude. third? you're smoking crack.

i'll try to make a more detailed post next week if jczeroman doesn't get on the ball, shapan

eulogy, good picks this week, edged me out. i wasn't counting on LSU flopping and Cal actually living up to the hype

so colin, how 'bout that ACC?

Brendan you do realize Baylor has a qb that'll be better than Young, right? I bet you don't even know they've had major recruits the past two seasons and run an offense hard to contain.

I'd like to remind everyone that one week of picks is dropped from the final scores, so sign up you stragglers!

Brendan you do realize Baylor has a qb that'll be better than Young, right?

hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

He has a better arm and is just as fast - give him 2 years.

vince young is a joke

Go WSU!!!! We're #1 we're #1










in swine flu

The Miami-FSU game is great.

vince young is a joke

A joke that won Texas a National Title and a Rose Bowl.

Bradford's season isn't over...he'll be out 2-4 weeks, according to sources.

vince young is a joke

well this is a college football thread so no one gives a shit about what he "is"

he WAS one of the greatest college football players of all time and led his team to a national championship. idiot.

so was VT totally embarassed in that alabama game the second half? I had to go to dinner and didn't get to catch it. Obviously we lost but we were hanging in pretty well in the first half despite our offense being retarded.

so was VT totally embarassed in that alabama game the second half? I had to go to dinner and didn't get to catch it. Obviously we lost but we were hanging in pretty well in the first half despite our offense being retarded.

your entire conference is the joke of the entire college football nation

sry.

at least we're in a conference you elitist assholes

vince young is a joke

i guess you were still in diapers when he won a national championship with 14 seconds on the clock

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Jealous much?

laughing at my friends rooting for usc while watching young run that touchdown in was pretty great

Yeah. That game unfortunately limits praise on the previous Rose Bowl where Texas beat Michigan in what I still consider the most underrated game Texas has played in a damn long time.

at least we're in a conference you elitist assholes

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

suck it

fuck you notre dame

your entire conference is the joke of the entire college football nation
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Yeah I'm jealous of Vince's championship, trots.


After all, us having 12 just isn't enough, we could use another.

yeah when was the last one 1995 dude, you weren't even born

Yeah I'm jealous of Vince's championship, trots.


After all, us having 12 just isn't enough, we could use another.

You don't have 12 titles, no matter what Bama Boosters want to believe. Fuck, one of those "titles" is when Alabama had two losses and finished 20th in the AP poll (1941)!

Shit, in 1973 11-1 Alabama LOST to 12-0 Notre Dame in the bowl and some dumbass pollster still said Alabama was No. 1. But I guess losing the national championship game (No. 2 Bama vs No. 1 ND) doesn't mean much.

(Below taken from a column I read a while back and Google Cached the info)

Glad you asked. Alabama claims national titles for the following years: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992. Other than the first three, we'll go over each season individually.

1925, 1926, 1930. All back-dated titles. These titles were awarded years after the fact. Four teams could claim a back-dated title in 1925, eight teams in 1926, and two in 1930. See how inconsistent back-dated titles were? Doesn't matter. They don't really exist. Pure and simple resume embellishment. Some Bama fans try to justify these years by pointing out that they were awarded following Alabama wins in the Rose Bowl. Sorry. Even had there been an established MNC poll system during that time, the polls would continue to declare national champions BEFORE the bowls for the next 40 years. Nice revisionist try, but strike 3 titles from Bama's record.

1934--The first year for the AP poll, given to Minnesota. Alabama received 11 selectors choosing them, but I'm sure most of them were back-dated--impossible to know for sure. Minnesota had 29 selectors, most of them probably back-dated, but they got the only one that counted--the AP. Strike another title from Bama's record.

1941--The most egregious of Alabama's bogus titles. Alabama finished the season with 2 losses and ranked #20 in the final AP poll. But one of the minor selectors out of over 30 chose Alabama, and evidently, that's the only excuse they needed. Five other teams that year would have a superior claim over Alabama's if you counted minor selectors, but we don't. I'm not really sure how many years after the fact Bama raised this banner, but you can bet it was many--so that not many people might notice. Strike another title from their record--we're on a roll--up to five gone now!

1961--Ahh, the beginning of the Bear era, and the golden age of Tide football. Alabama was pretty much a consensus champion, with both of the major polls, the AP and UPI went their way. Some minor selectors chose Texas and Ohio State, but this title is solid. Score one legitimate title!

1964-- A 10-1 Alabama team claims a national title in 1964 in spite of an 11-0 Arkansas team having a better claim. Here, an instance of both the AP and UPI, which voted Alabama # 1 that year, still voting prior to the bowl game. Had the polls been conducted after the bowls, then I'm sure it would have been a consensus Arkansas pick because Alabama lost to Texas in the Orange bowl, but Arkansas beat Texas during the regular season. I recognize Alabama's title because that was the rules that were in place at the time. Chalk up another legitimate title for the Tide, although a modern-day jury would probably confer it on Arkansas.

1965--The first of Alabama's supposed two back-to-back titles. It was a split decision between the 9-1-1 Tide, who dropped the first game to Georgia and tied Tennessee, winning the AP title, and Michigan State, 10-1, dropping the Rose Bowl, winning the UPI crown--again, bestowed BEFORE the bowl games, while the AP that year was done afterwards. Two other teams, Arkansas and Dartmouth, also got a few minor selectors to choose them, but an AP title is gold, so score another legitimate title for the Tide, now up to three.

1973--Alabama goes 11-1 and is chosen by the UPI. Notre Dame goes 11-0 and is crowned by the AP as NC. Who did the Irish beat in the Sugar Bowl? Why, Alabama--for their only loss. Why in the hell did Alabama get a national championship after losing their bowl game to the real national champion? Because the UPI was still choosing their champion BEFORE the bowl games. How crazy is that? Pretty crazy, by today's standards. If Alabama had any sense of decency, they would refuse to claim 1973 as a title year since they lost the de facto national championship game to the real champions, but since those were the rules at the time, I begrudgingly recognize this MNC. One good thing did come out of this fiasco though: the UPI quit choosing their champ before the bowl games after this one. Score four.

1978--Split title year, AP going to Alabama, and the UPI going to USC. A funny thing happened on the way to Legion Field, however. Alabama LOST to USC at home during the regular season. But alas, USC lost a regular season game too, and the two teams did not meet in a bowl game. So be it. Chalk up title number five to Bama, even if they did share it with a team they lost to at home.

1979--The goal-line stand title, against Penn State in the Sugar Bowl. Most of us remember watching that game. Alabama was 12-0 and took all the marbles and most of the selectors. No argument here. Score number six in legitimate titles!

1992--Alabama's only 'modern' day title, complete with all the 24 hour media attention afforded 'national championship' bowl match-ups, in this case a beat-down of Miami in the Sugar Bowl. Absolutely no doubt. Final tally to date, seven legitimate MNCs.

Blah blah blah who cares

This season is all the matters now so we'll see who puts the money where their mouth is

When Bama loses two or three games, you promise to shut the fuck up?

Alabama fans don't realize Saban has never had back-to-back 10 win seasons.

I'm not predicting anything, man. We have a legit shot at playing for the big one though. I really want another shot at Florida. Our QB this year is much better, the defense is just as good if not better, our stable of running backs is ridiculous, and our special teams blow as usual.

I'm not predicting anything, man. We have a legit shot at playing for the big one though. I really want another shot at Florida. Our QB this year is much better, the defense is just as good if not better, our stable of running backs is ridiculous, and our special teams blow as usual.

Maybe you guys should take another shot at Utah first before you go challenging Florida.

But seriously, Bama should run away with the SEC west. They have a pretty easy schedule from here on out. I can see an Arkansas or Kentucky or Auburn maybe jumping up one week and catching the Tide with their pants down, but that's a remote possibility. But after seeing the major competition in the west (Ole Miss and LSU) in action, it's pretty clear that Bama should beat them easily.

Just found out I'll get to go to the TX home game against Colorado. Too bad the Buffaloes just lost to fucking CSU.

WAT ^

I am a huge Nebraska fan and went to the game on Saturday. A solid win over Florida Atlantic. I think we'll surprise some people this year. Coach Pelini has us on the right track.

. A solid win over Florida Atlantic..



Playing a high school in your first week should in no way show how good you are going to be in the regular season.

well for what it's worth FAU will probably beat Louisiana-Monroe this year in conference play

wooo texas! YOU'RE NEXT WYOMING

Let's get this shit going.


Colorado embarrassed for the 2nd week in a row, getting blown out by Toledo after falling to CSU in week 1.

They should really fire Hawkins already.

oh and holy shit the direct helmet to helmet hit to the buff qb's head was hard to watch...afterward he looked like he'd drank a bottle of liquor.

sorry guys i got kind of drunk and i feel like shit

turalyonw3 where are you watching the texas game

i told you guys oklahoma state wasn't that good

next is super team ace extraordinaire baylor

you also told us colorado was going to suck, good job.

i didn't say anything about colorado

yes you did when i gave you my list of potentially non-cupcake big 12 schools

you do have a tendency of overestimating unproven teams

i have a wait and see approach

there's something about finishing that eludes even the most talented college football teams

and then you have michigan with a true freshman quarterback that can finish. outstanding.

the big 12 south is crumbling around texas

I made a lot of money with Houston's win. Saw that coming a mile away.

My undergrad alma mater won 92-0. How embarrassing.

I wasn't impressed at all with USC or OSU. They didn't look like top 10 teams.

I get the feeling this is going to end up a screwy year as far as the top 10/BCS goes. It just doesn't seem like any of the supposed top teams are living up to their billing thus far except for Florida and maybe Texas.

Both Texas and Alabama had a rough first half. Florida is really the only one to appear untouchable I'd say.

Te0as playing at like 7,500 feet though. Takes time to get used to that elevation. Texas and Florida are by far the best teams - no one else that close.

Texas playing at like 7,500 feet though. Takes time to get used to that elevation.
:rofl:

Just saying that could be partial to blame for the ugly 20 minutes or so.

oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god

shit fuck goddamn fuckass bitch cunt asshole fuck SHIT

It's okay sweetie one week of picks gets dropped

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE FUCKING PICKS

So is Charlie Weis going to stop being a failure anytime soon? At least now Lou Holtz will stop talking about how ND will be "upset" by Texas in the title game.

he said florida

anyway

no, he's not. he has yet to defeat a decent team. in 4+ seasons.

michigan might not even be any good

Looks like Tate Forcier is on the way to single-handedly revitalizing Michigan's football program.

I honestly don't think U of M is very good, FWIW. Weis inexplicably throwing two passes on second and third down on their last series is what lost the game for the Irish. I don't care if Michigan has the box loaded and your WRs have had success against Michigan's CBs all game. Play it safe, run the ball, make Michigan use its timeouts. You do that, Michigan doesn't get the ball back with over two minutes and two times out left. IDIOT.

<font color="yellow">Go</font> <font color="blue">Blue!</font>

weis is a fucking joke

i can't believe that fucking team was ranked

michigan might not even be any good

they're probably not

ND has as much talent as anyone in the country.

i could have won this game.

fuck.

so colin, how 'bout that ACC?

I could not have been more wrong. What was I smoking?

I think the Pac-10 looked deep this week - much more than I gave them credit for.

Ok St. really disappointed me - I thought they would be much better - although Houston is a halfway decent program.

The Big-12 does not look near as good as I thought it would. I think I would rank the conferences:

SEC
Pac-10
* *
Big-12
* *
Big East
Big-10
Mountain West
ACC

I'm off the USC as top-5 material bandwagon for now.

MAYBE ND CAN UPSET THEM!!!

I'm fully aware that I'm setting myself up for more disappointment, and I should really, really have learned my lesson by now....but.............

SC ain't as good this year as they have been. And we get them at home. The rest of our schedule is garbage. MSU, BC, and USC are all at home.

It's still likely (disturbing as this may be) that ND will get into a BCS bowl. Where they can embarrass all of us one more time. woooooooo

goddamn it i cannot believe i let myself be that hopeful.

...also, let me say that I have never in my life seen as classless a fan base as I saw in Ann Arbor. Don't get me wrong, I met a lot of reasonable, cool people there. But wow.

I've been to East Lansing twice, New Orleans with throngs of LSU fans, Knoxville....maybe I'm forgetting some. But never, ever in my life have I been treated like I was yesterday.

We are always very welcoming to visiting fans here. As corny as that sounds. I used to think ND/UM was a rivalry that had a thick layer of respect underlying it. Maybe they were all stupiud freshmen. I don't know. But it was appalling.

Notre Dame and Penn State fans are always very nice when we play them, according to my grandparents.

Is Charlie Weis fired yet?

It's 3:47 PM Central Standard Time. Is Charlie Weis fired yet?

He's probably dead on the toilet with his hand in a box of Krispy Kreme.

He's probably dead on the toilet with his hand in a box of Krispy Kreme.

I'd love to see an eating contest between Weis and Mark Mangino.

http://www.wearethepostmen.com/wp-content/uploads//2008/05/weisathon.jpg

is his penis under his belly, how does that work

I'm off the USC as top-5 material bandwagon for now.


I agree. I would take Cal as the top team in the Pac-10. USC did not look great against tOSU and that is saying a lot as tOSU is not a very good team in my opinion. I would rank the top-25 as follows:

1 Florida
2 Texas
3 Brigham Young
4 California
5 Alabama
6 Mississippi
7 Penn State
8 USC
9 LSU
10 Georgia Tech
11 Oklahoma
12 Cincinnati
13 Boise State
14 TCU
15 Oklahoma State
16 Virginia Tech
17 Oregon State
18 Utah
19 Ohio State
20 Nebraska
21 Michigan
22 Houston
23 UCLA
24 Georgia
25 Baylor

I really don't think that Ole Miss or LSU are top 10 teams. They both will lose 3-5 games before all is said and done based on what we've seen so far. The SEC west is going to be brutal this year. Auburn, Arkansas, and even Mississippi State will get a few wins at the expense of the top half of the division.

And it's completely batshit insane that Ole Miss is going to be a top 5 team before they play anybody even halfway decent.

But then again, it's not like there are many teams from 11-20 that I think have a legit top 10 case.

The dropoff from Texas and Florida is staggering.

Penn State is effectively the fifth-best team in football yet has a horrible offensive line that cannot hold up a running game against Akron and Syracuse. Ohio State looked better than I imagined against USC - and USC will breeze through the Pac 10 (Cal isn't better, I don't think).

The dropoff from Texas and Florida is staggering.

Penn State is effectively the fifth-best team in football yet has a horrible offensive line that cannot hold up a running game against Akron and Syracuse.

I think you are right here.

and USC will breeze through the Pac 10 (Cal isn't better, I don't think).

Not so much here. Cal and Oregon State have looked very good so far - have you gotten a chance to watch Oregon State yet - they looked mid-season against UNLV. I even expect the Washington USC game to be close - that is, I expect USC to have trouble with the Pac-10's NINTH best team. It will be no cakewalk for USC this year.

Haven't seen Oregon State, but have seen Cal. I think USC will get better and better as the season goes on, and as the offense matures. They did play an Ohio State team that played an entire game above themselves and won in one of the toughest places to play in the country.

With a freshman qb. That said, I hope the USC campus is burned in a wildfire.

I think USC will get better and better as the season goes on
RUH ROH!

Thanks for fucking the pickem up, everyone!

yeah i totally forgot. oh well.

So Colt McCoy was sick as fuck the first half against Tech. They pumped a bunch of fluids into him at halftime, and he didn't miss a pass the 2nd half. Wish the Heisman voters would have known his status going into the game. He's still in good shape though.

Perhaps you should focus on winning the Big 12 before obsessing over your boy's Heisman hopes.

So Dogfighter, what's your feeling on the game this weekend between the Tide and the Hogs? We're still holding out a sliver of hope here even after the disappointment against Georgia, since it looks like our offense really is as awesome as we hoped it would be (Ryan Mallett is clearly one of the top 2 or 3 QBs in the conference). But our defense is even worse than we feared it would be. They were decent against the run, but the secondary (if you can call them that) made Joe frickin Cox look like Dan Marino. I don't expect things to improve much, especially not in Tuscaloosa, but I think it should be a good game.

since it looks like our offense really is as awesome as we hoped it would be. But our defense is even worse than we feared it would be.

i feel your pain

:(

Arkansas usually finds a way to piss of Bama fans it seems, even when they suck. So I'm not counting them completely out of the game just yet.

But...

If we can put up 500+ yards on VT, then Arkansas had better be really fucking scared. Two weeks ago Julio Jones and Mark Ingram both basically sat out the game and the offense still rolled all over the place. Bama normally has a very conservative offense (read: boring and unproductive) but this year it's almost as good as the defense has been. If we keep it up, Florida had better be scared.

Oh yeah, McElroy is twice the QB John Parker Wilson ever was or ever will be. Guy has never lost a game in his life, backed up Chase Daniel in high school, and is a super smart defense dismantler. He can only get better with experience.

Here's my favorite stat: Bama's four backs are averaging 6.8, 7.4, 5.6, and 9.7 yards a carry. Each with at least 10 carries and 100 yards, so definitely not skewed numbers.

I don't know too much about Arkansas other than Petrino not knowing what the hell defense is. I'm also not sure Georgia is very good. Oh well like I said you'll probably find some way to make it a game based on history.

I don't know too much about Arkansas other than Petrino not knowing what the hell defense is. I'm also not sure Georgia is very good. Oh well like I said you'll probably find some way to make it a game based on history.

I don't think Bama has played an offense anywhere near as good as Arkansas has (and may not play one all year). I know Bama has improved a little on offense, but from what I've seen I don't know if they're high powered enough to win a shootout. I guess it just depends on whether Bama's vaunted defense can slow down the Arkansas passing game enough to keep it from turning into a shootout (though I hear Bama's secondary has been a little suspect?) At any rate, I think the game will be far from the runaway it was last year.

there was a bunch of hogs fans at the wings place i went to for the texas game and they all left at halftime corganist

tell me that kind of lakeresque wankery isn't typical

Postgame footage from the Tennessee-Florida game

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there was a bunch of hogs fans at the wings place i went to for the texas game and they all left at halftime corganist

tell me that kind of lakeresque wankery isn't typical

They probably just decided to go somewhere that wasn't filled with Longhorns fans. I doubt it was because they were discouraged by the massive 6 point lead that Georgia (and the fucking referees) had amassed at the half.

well you can't go anywhere during gametime in austin texas that's not filled with longhorns fans brody

Ole Miss is being EXPOSED.

Snead has absolutely no poise. I've heard the announcers talk about him for the last year and never has he lived up to the hype.

Indeed. Even if they pull this out, there's no way they stay in the top 5. Snead has regressed under Nutt. Whatever skill at QB he may have learned during his time with the Longhorns has been choked out of him now. Houston Nutt's offense is where quarterbacks go to die.

There are so many mediocre teams this year.

it's not even week 3 yet

also Jevon Snead lost the texas game 3 years ago to Kansas State so i never believed a second of the hype about that fucking guy

It doesn't take 12 weeks to realize there are only three or maybe four teams that are anywhere close to MNC contenders.

Miami looks good now, but they'll get rolled by VT and Bama just to fuck everything up.

With the skewed nature of the preseason rankings, it probably will take 12 weeks to sort the wheat from the chaff. It'll sort out eventually, but right now there are just so many overrated pretenders in the top 25. ESPN is making such a huge deal about top 5 teams getting knocked off every week, but this early in the season how much does that really mean? Was Oklahoma State really the fifth best team in the nation just for beating a down Georgia team with no defense? Was Ole Miss really number 4 just for...well, why the hell were they number 4?

But I guess it will be a big deal when number 3 'Bama gets knocked off tomorrow. :D

preseason rankings really do fuck everything up.

they shouldn't even have them until two weeks into the conference season.

It doesn't take 12 weeks to realize there are only three or maybe four teams that are anywhere close to MNC contenders.

isn't that true every year

it's not even week 3 yet

also Jevon Snead lost the texas game 3 years ago to Kansas State

I'm pretty the Texas defense allowing 45 points and over 300 yards passing and our shit running backs inability to hang on to the fucking ball lost us that game

^ hush up about those bad memories

If Bama and Texas end up playing each other in bowl season we totally have to have a get together

you can suck on a dick

that's what was supposed to happen last year and they both blew it

oklahoma still cheated

I'm going to be bummed around 11:15 p.m. when Penn State gets beat in a pouring, driving rain.

wish I could watch this VT Miami game but apparently Ohio STate and Illinois is a more important game...................

Is bama this good or is Arkansas this bad? They don't even look like they are playing the same game. Tide QB sucks though

is miami looking shitty right now? or is VT good? or is the weather making it a sloppy game? SOMEONE HELP ME

Is bama this good or is Arkansas this bad? They don't even look like they are playing the same game. Tide QB sucks though

I think Bama's defense might be that good. Or at the very least they're a hell of a lot better than Georgia's. I wasn't expecting Arkansas's offense to look quite so bad. Though to be fair, dropped passes and penalties are killing them more than Bama's defense.

I'm not impressed with Bama's offense yet though. Arkansas's shitty defense has actually played pretty well against them except for the long run (which would have been for a loss, but for the HORRIBLE tackling) and the long pass where our moron DC obviously had no fucking clue what was going on.

14 points is not that big of a lead when you have the weapons Arkansas does. (I hope)

Cal = pretenders

Man. Arkansas's pass defense SUCKS!!!!

Not impressed with Bama's offense at all though. I could throw for 200 yards against Arkansas's secondary.

i really don't like the way some of you live blog these games

Tide QB sucks though

Greg McElroy
17-24, 291 yds, 3 TD - 0 INT

Yeah, he sucks man.


Not to mention torching the VT defense, something that apparently Heisman-worthy Miami QB failed to do.

y'know I know Florida's good, but Kentucky is an SEC team and they look just goddamn pathetic. 31-0 after a quarter?

Greg McElroy
17-24, 291 yds, 3 TD - 0 INT

Yeah, he sucks man.


Not to mention torching the VT defense, something that apparently Heisman-worthy Miami QB failed to do.

He wasn't that impressive, IMO. He seems like a good game manager type QB, nothing more. Lots of decent QBs are going to look like superstars against Arkansas's high school pass defense this year.

y'know I know Florida's good, but Kentucky is an SEC team and they look just goddamn pathetic. 31-0 after a quarter?

they should probably be in utep's conference

bazing

Big Ten is craziness so far.

GO COUGS!!!

::the shocker::

Greg McElroy
17-24, 291 yds, 3 TD - 0 INT

Yeah, he sucks man.


Not to mention torching the VT defense, something that apparently Heisman-worthy Miami QB failed to do.

those numbers against the Arkansas pass defense do not impress me. not one bit.

but i get to watch one of the best quarterbacks in the country every week (this can no longer be debatable). pretty awesome how he swooped in to save the day last night. and also incredibly pathetic that he had to.

Uh, I can argue he's not even a top 5 qb.

And the only reason ND won was because Purdue's coach made the worst coaching decision in football history by CALLING A TIMEOUT WHEN THE OTHER TEAM IS FRANTICALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DOWN THE BALL.

What. The. Fuck.

Uh, I can argue he's not even a top 5 qb.

And the only reason ND won was because Purdue's coach made the worst coaching decision in football history by CALLING A TIMEOUT WHEN THE OTHER TEAM IS FRANTICALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DOWN THE BALL.

What. The. Fuck.

yeah that was strange

and have you watched him play when he's healthy? he's been incredibly accurate. throwing touchdowns. no interceptions until last night. i mean what the fuck? what better passers are there right now? mccoy.....???

you're just bitter 'cause PSU lost to the most perpetually underachieving team in the country for the second year in a row.

and "not even a top 5 qb" does not necessarily mean he's not one of the best in the country. there are a lot of quarterbacks.

I'd be kinda hard pressed to name 5 better QBs than Clausen right offhand. He's played well this season. McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford (when he gets healthy) I think are better for sure. But beyond that? I don't know. I don't think Clausen is that far behind those 3.

anyone who has watched him play this season wouldn't be able to either. i don't know what sppunk is going on about.

those numbers against the Arkansas pass defense do not impress me. not one bit.

This. For some reason Alabama QBs always have career passing games against Arkansas. McElroy's numbers yesterday are right in line with the kind of numbers John Parker Wilson usually put up against us (and then failed to put up against anyone else).

McElroy was good in the game yesterday, but all he had to do was distribute the ball. He wasn't asked to make many difficult throws. But I guess part of that is because there's no such thing as a difficult throw when there's no pass rush and the opposing DBs are getting blown by on every play.

you're just bitter 'cause PSU lost to the most perpetually underachieving team in the country for the second year in a row.

I'm bitter about a game I said an overrated Penn State team would lose? Not so much. They'll lose three more this year, too.

Texas, Houston, Alabama, Florida, Michigan and Cincinnatti all have better qbs than ND. Clawson is good, yes, but he's not close to being the best which you alluded.

seventh best qualifies as "one of the best" in my mind. and you're absolutely wrong about alabama and michigan.

I misread your posts initially - thought you said he was the best, not one of the best. Apologies.

But he got beat head-to-head by a freshman who looks incredible, and Alabama's qb runs the offense amazingly well.

Clawson is lucky to have Tate to fall back on, but I'm not overly sold on anything else he does.

The only thing that matters in the end is wins and losses. You can't compare the stats of different QB's because they run different styles of offenses. Completion percentage is really the only useful stat across the board.

even if they are a dink and dunker?

sam bradford is probably the only real good traditional qb in college. sad day for cfb if claussen is elite

sad day for cfb if claussen is elite

first of all, for you and sppunk, his name isn't that hard to spell. and he's an excellent quarterback. there is nothing sad about it. you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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No one can bring down Julio!

That's what happens when a man goes out and plays with boys.

Arkansas is still a year or two away from having the defensive talent on campus to keep them in games with teams like Bama. That long pass play they gave up right after they cut the lead down to 14-7 sucked the wind right out of them. That play doesn't happen, it's a different ball game.

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^lol

The lack of a sufficient dialogue in this thread is appalling.

I just think it's hard to make intelligent predictions on anything the way the season has gone so far. It's just kinda up in the air as far as who the best teams really are. And if three months from now we can't pull up the things we say in this thread and use them to say how smart our predictions were, what good is it?

But I'll go out on a limb a little. Whoever wins the SEC west division will most likely win the national championship. Bama looks every bit as good as advertised. LSU has looked like less than a top ten team, but they're getting breaks wherever they need them just like they did in 2007. And Auburn is starting to look like a darkhorse now that they have an offense. Hell, even Ole Miss could theoretically get on a roll and go 11-1 and be in the conversation (not likely, but possible).

ND beats USC in two weeks.

it's now or never.

hnibos and me's teams are dominating, what now you texas fans

Texas is the best team in the country. No idea what you're babbling about. When Texas beats Bama in the title game, it'll be sorta-kinda official.

I bet Corganist got so drunk last night he slept with a democrat.

yep, sec championship=national championship game. right jczeroman?

I bet Corganist got so drunk last night he slept with a democrat.

She said she was an independent. :D

But seriously, between the Hogs shitkicking Auburn, and Ole Miss getting utterly handled by Alabama, it was a pretty damn good day. I'm glad I got to enjoy it...considering that Arkansas gets to go to Florida on Saturday. Even I'm not enough of a homer to think that'll go well.

what now you texas fans

what the fuck are you even talking about

He thinks winning a game against a team that had what 6 turnovers is brag worthy.

We leapfrogged you in the polls bro not to mention an embarrassing start against a team that got beat by Toledo... at home... and your coach admitting that he overlooked them

yeah well we have oklahoma next week and we still beat the shit out of them

one half doesn't mean fucking anything guy

you might have a point if it was actually close but it wasn't

slow starts are endemic to college football, maybe once you start shaving you might notice that

yeah and notre dame jumped into the poll in an off week.

polls are meaningless.

were they eating cheeseburgers

nah, their moms came and fed them fried chicken in the parking lot

We leapfrogged you in the polls bro

Who the fuck cares? Your offense struggled despite being handed the football four times by a qb who has regressed more than Reggie Bush.

Yeah its hard to lose when your defense pwns tho

Also Julio Jones is still hurt and that was McElroy's first tough road game ever

We have work to do but we're in very good shape. There is no such thing as an ugly win on the road in the SEC

... those excuses yet you threw UT under the bus for only winning by four touchdowns against Colorado? You're kind of an idiot, no?

Texas did it at home, against a far more inferior opponent, and looked much worse on both sides of the ball when they did struggle

Mack Brown's comments about not taking them seriously are really the most concerning thing to me tbh

Yes, Brown's the first coach in college football history to overlook a team when the biggest rivalry game of the year is on deck the next weekend.

The best coaches never overlook conference opponents

Anyway if Texas beats Oklahoma then they'll be in the clear at least till the championship game.

The best coaches never overlook conference opponents


oh, bullshit. they just don't admit it.

even if they do they shouldn't tell that to their team or especially the media

texas only looked bad on one side of the ball, actually dogfucker

by the way alabama jumped texas in the poll that doesn't matter

so congratulations

GO DUCKS!

the ordering of 1-3 doesn't matter at all anyway. if texas wins out, they'll be in the title game.

Guy here in my office is a ND grad and swears when they win out they'll be in the BCS title game.

I say he's delusional.

Guy here in my office is a ND grad and swears when they win out they'll be in the BCS title game.

I say he's delusional.

title game? i don't think that's possible unless there are no other one-loss teams left. a win over USC would help, and the rest of the schedule is better than the first half was. but i don't see computers putting them above VT, Miami, OSU, LSU, Iowa or whoever might possibly be left with one loss at the end of the year.

it's scary to think about but i think even with two losses they could again get into a BCS bowl and get fucking rocked. but maybe not. the tide's gotta turn at some point, right?

also for the love of fuck someone explain this to me:

18 Oklahoma 3-2 447
19 Brigham Young 5-1 441

Idaho St., Tulsa, and Baylor!! WOW!!!

does this year's body of work even really matter in these fucking rankings?

also for the love of fuck someone explain this to me:

18 Oklahoma 3-2 447
19 Brigham Young 5-1 441

byu got rocked by fsu. maybe if bradford hadnt gotten injured ou would have won that game. only explanation there could be.

Guy here in my office is a ND grad and swears when they win out they'll be in the BCS title game.

I say he's delusional.

i know this is only one example, but after looking at the sagarin ratings, it's not as unlikely as i had thought. right now he's got ND's SOS at 28! wtf.

hey eulogy wanna make a bet on the usc game

byu got rocked by fsu. maybe if bradford hadnt gotten injured ou would have won that game. only explanation there could be.

yeah and if oklahoma had scored more points, they would have won the game.

i know how this happens but it's so fucking insane.

hey eulogy wanna make a bet on the usc game

absolutely not

but i am for some reason very, very excited for it.

oh come on i'll put a cock pic on the line

there are plenty of cocks on the internet

i know this is only one example, but after looking at the sagarin ratings, it's not as unlikely as i had thought. right now he's got ND's SOS at 28! wtf.

Sagarin's rankings can't be looked at now, really, though. His are best the last two or three weeks of the season (If I recall correctly they need a full body of work to play out properly).

A 2-loss Notre Dame team has an extremely good chance at a BCS bowl, since BCS bowls don't go by rankings (3 vs 4, etc.) and care more about money/draw than matchup.

ND is the ultimate money/draw factor.

I was handed four tickets to the PSU-Minnesota game for Saturday. On the 50, about 25 rows up. Perfect seats, too bad it's going to be cold as shit and rainy/snowy.

Sagarin's rankings can't be looked at now, really, though. His are best the last two or three weeks of the season (If I recall correctly they need a full body of work to play out properly).

A 2-loss Notre Dame team has an extremely good chance at a BCS bowl, since BCS bowls don't go by rankings (3 vs 4, etc.) and care more about money/draw than matchup.

ND is the ultimate money/draw factor.

wouldnt any strength of schedule formula play out best at the end of the year, when the body of work is completely finish and its more accurate to judge whos better than who?


i mean relatively speaking, accurate

Definitely - SOS can't be looked at until the season is completed.

But ND's was shit in August, it's shit now, and it will be shit at the end of the season. That's what makes me think their ultimate SOS rank will be higher than I'd thought.

FUCK TIM TEBOW AND HIS SEC REFEREE ENABLERS.

Arkansas beat Florida from pillar to post today. Those phantom calls on Florida's last TD drive were unconscionable. Florida is just as overrated as their QB, and I look forward to seeing Bama dismantle them in the SEC championship game.

Yeah I really wish Arkansas would have put that game away.

so there were SIX OU players injured today. pussies.

and ut still could only barely beat them

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Good. Serves those cheating fuckers at Florida right.

glad Texas controls it's own destiny. we have a lot of work to do but the path is there for the taking.

and ut still could only barely beat them

yeah but dude our defense was sick. -16 rushing yards for OU, I don't care who's under center.

yeah the defense is really really good but i get worried watching that cap gun offense keep sputtering around throwing pass after pass after pass for nothing. the offense didn't get started until, wonder-of-wonders, they actually started giving the ball to the RBs.

soul crushing

eight. fucking. years.

also, why the fuck is oklahoma still in the top 25?!!?!??!

also, why the fuck is oklahoma still in the top 25?!!?!??!

they almost beat the number 3 team with a freshman qb?

they almost beat the number 3 team with a freshman qb?

If we're going to let 3-3 teams into the top 25 (which we shouldn't) based on "almosts" and "so-closes" then there are a lot better candidates than OU.

For instance, Arkansas is 3 and 3 as well, and they almost beat the number 1 team in the nation (and would have if not for the referees). And they did it on the road, and without their starting running back and one of their top receivers. Arkansas's 3 wins (Missouri State, Texas A&M, Auburn) are arguably better than OU's (Idaho State, Tulsa, Baylor) and their three losses (#1 Alabama, #2 Florida, Georgia) are undoubtedly better than OU's (sure, all of OU's losses are against ranked opponents, but I doubt Miami or BYU could beat Georgia, even as down as they are).

So yeah, point is that OU being ranked still is a fucking joke.

how come you guys still act like the AP matters

If we're going to let 3-3 teams into the top 25 (which we shouldn't) based on "almosts" and "so-closes" then there are a lot better candidates than OU.

For instance, Arkansas is 3 and 3 as well, and they almost beat the number 1 team in the nation (and would have if not for the referees). And they did it on the road, and without their starting running back and one of their top receivers. Arkansas's 3 wins (Missouri State, Texas A&M, Auburn) are arguably better than OU's (Idaho State, Tulsa, Baylor) and their three losses (#1 Alabama, #2 Florida, Georgia) are undoubtedly better than OU's (sure, all of OU's losses are against ranked opponents, but I doubt Miami or BYU could beat Georgia, even as down as they are).

So yeah, point is that OU being ranked still is a fucking joke.

I agree with everything in this post.

And I would like to add, that if we ******* body of work, then there is no reason that Florida and Texas should be in the discussion with Alabama - especially Texas. Iowa should be ranked ahead of Texas.

Oregon should also be ranked higher than USC

while you guys continue to argue about the AP poll which has no bearing on ANYTHING at ALL i will present you a poll that actually factors into the BCS

1 Florida (49) 6-0 1464 1 Mississippi State W23-20 Arkansas
2 Alabama (9) 7-0 1398 3 Tennessee W20-6 South Carolina
3 Texas (1) 6-0 1386 2 Missouri W16-13 Oklahoma
4 USC 5-1 1237 5 Oregon State W34-27 at Notre Dame
5 Boise State 6-0 1153 6 Hawaii W28-21 at Tulsa
6 Cincinnati 6-0 1104 9 Louisville W34-17 at South Florida
7 TCU 6-0 1069 8 Brigham Young W44-6 Colorado State
8 Iowa 7-0 1037 12 Michigan State W20-10 at Wisconsin
9 Miami (FL) 5-1 998 11 Clemson W27-7 at UCF
10 LSU 5-1 995 10 Auburn L3-13 Florida
11 Penn State 6-1 894 13 Michigan W20-0 Minnesota
12 Oklahoma State 5-1 795 14 Baylor W33-17 Missouri
13 Georgia Tech 6-1 779 20 Virginia W28-23 Virginia Tech
14 Oregon 5-1 769 16 Washington W24-10 at UCLA
15 Virginia Tech 5-2 672 4 North Carolina L23-28 at Georgia Tech
16 Brigham Young 6-1 577 19 TCU W38-28 at San Diego State
17 Ohio State 5-2 481 7 Minnesota L18-26 at Purdue
18 Houston 5-1 421 23 Southern Methodist W44-16 at Tulane
19 Pittsburgh 6-1 328 28 South Florida W24-17 at Rutgers
20 Utah 5-1 300 29 Air Force W35-15 at UNLV
21 Kansas 5-1 222 15 Oklahoma L30-34 at Colorado
22 West Virginia 5-1 188 31 Connecticut W24-7 Marshall
23 South Carolina 5-2 142 22 Vanderbilt L6-20 at Alabama
24 Texas Tech 5-2 132 0 Texas A&M W31-10 at Nebraska
25 Mississippi 4-2 114 27 Arkansas W48-13 UAB

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drunk asl

i mean fuck i'm so sick of the AP being the "official" rakings for all the stupid telecasts when you see #2 whoever the fuck play #22 whatthefuckever i mean fuck those fucking tools at the end fo the fuck ing year tehy could make the Idaho Vandals #1 in the nation and nobody will give two tugs of a dead dog's cock FUCK THE AP POLL

WHAT THE FUCK DOES BILL PLASCHKE KNOW ABOUT FUCKING ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck the coaches poll, the coaches are dumb

or they don't pay attention to what the fuck is happening on the field that is

are any of these polls not dumb

the cfn.scout.com poll is not dumb.

hoooly shit...blocked FG in Bama game...Tennessee could have had it.

HOLY FUCK THIS WEEKEND IS CRUNK

Oregon is at least in the top ten. Hopefully some more people lose. As that is what is going to have to happen for Oregon to jump some teams ahead of them.

bonghorns roll, up next is Oklahoma State who should be challenging at least

i haven't watched a single down of alabama football but is their offense completely pedestrian or what

mark ingram is kind of the shit

what position does he play? if he's a running back then they probably do have the best team in the country. florida struggling to beat mississippi state suggests post championship hangover

reason why i say all of this is really based on nothing but highlights and assumptions but I dunno does anyone think it's fair to say that Tennessee is about equal to Oklahoma without Sam Bradford?

I just think UT and Bama are really close right now but texas's offense can be more explosive but also more prone to fucking up. And Bama's offense is one of those caretaker things that just cuts down on mistakes and lets the defense throttle the other team.

Alabama isn't a very good football team. They were beat up and down the field by a truly horrific Tennessee team and equally as bad coaching performance from Kiffin.

how do you beat someone up and down the field and lose

i mean if alabama's not good, i know texas isn't that good, and i know florda's looking sloppy then who is the best team in the country, Iowa? i mean shit. you have to pick someone.

parity

playoff

that too

how do you beat someone up and down the field and lose

You have two field goals blocked by the same fucking player and squeeze a few turnovers and very bad playcalls in between.

yeah alabama isn't good at all

you don't know anything about college football if you think almost losing to a conference opponent means you suck

its just part of the game. tennessee has a truly great defense that kept them in the game, but don't forget that they got lucky twice in a row to even get in a position to win, with the fumble and onsides recovery.

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I think Alabama's stock dropped a little as a result of that Tennessee game, but not enough to knock them out of clearly being the best team in the country right now. It's not like they're Florida, who has had to reap the benefits of questionable refereeing to put away far less talented teams two weeks in a row now in order to stay undefeated.

you don't know anything about college football if you think almost losing to a conference opponent means you suck

you think that about texas

(this was all an elaborate setup to get you to say that btw)

Of all of the five unbeatens, Alabama still makes the best case by virtue of SOS - even though these have been close games. After that, I would say Texas, then Iowa and then Florida.

USC is way, way too high. Several other no-loss and one-loss teams have a better or comparative resume as USC, including Oregon, TCU, LSU and Georgia Tech.

Cincinnati is the toughest to rank, as they have not beaten a ranked opponent and will only play one semi-tough opponent in Pitt. I think I would give an unbeaten Boise State or TCU precedent over Cincinnati.

yeah you know even though the big east is on the level of the mountain west and the WAC pollsters still seem to give it credit for being a "major" conference because it's part of the BCS.

how unbelievably corrupt.

I'm beginning to believe TCU would beat the shit out of any other team in the country right now.

i said texas was for real if they could beat oklahoma... with the bradford injury, that is sort of void, but they are still a solid team. i'm just not sure how they would fare against an SEC defense.