ryan patrick
06-08-2009, 02:24 AM
is for dipshits?
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View Full Version : socialism ryan patrick 06-08-2009, 02:24 AM is for dipshits? ryan patrick 06-08-2009, 02:26 AM socialism is for dipshits ryan patrick 06-08-2009, 02:31 AM 1-800-NERD-PENCILS publius clodius 06-08-2009, 02:32 AM on netphoria a thread like this could become a sincere discussion about socialism publius clodius 06-08-2009, 02:32 AM but yeah, b) Mo 06-08-2009, 02:37 AM Is it that time again? I'm Hardcore 06-08-2009, 02:45 AM nah beef curtains 06-08-2009, 08:08 AM nein Debaser 06-08-2009, 11:53 AM not as bad as most people think it is. prolly not as good as I think it is, too. Thaniel Buckner 06-08-2009, 11:54 AM libertarian socialism is better. Thaniel Buckner 06-08-2009, 11:55 AM probably the best -ism. Thaniel Buckner 06-08-2009, 11:55 AM aside from my jism. redbreegull 06-08-2009, 12:53 PM In 100 years the United States is going to have gone all Fabian and all right wing idiots are going to be predictably proven wrong. 28if 06-08-2009, 01:32 PM ^ this neopryn 06-08-2009, 01:35 PM i don't have a problem with it. i'm weak, lazy and stupid so it's supposed to help me i think. Nimrod's Son 06-08-2009, 01:39 PM It's supposed to, but theory /= practice. Joe 06-08-2009, 05:48 PM libertarian socialism is better. ^ i'm with you redbreegull 06-08-2009, 05:54 PM So Nimrod, where on planet Earth would you assert that real scientific socialism has been tried? Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 06:23 PM what on earth is libertarian socialism Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 06:23 PM So Nimrod, where on planet Earth would you assert that real scientific socialism has been tried? shut up sppunk 06-08-2009, 06:26 PM So Nimrod, where on planet Earth would you assert that real scientific socialism has been tried? Your high school history class hasn't gotten that far yet, douche. I feel the need to post in this thread. Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 06:28 PM SWEDEN YOU FUCK Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 06:29 PM god i hate it when people try to trap nimrod in pathetic attempts at gotcha moments leave the nimrod trolling to the professionals please Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 06:29 PM and yes i get paid to be here, it's for a university research project barden 06-08-2009, 06:39 PM SLOW DOWN GANDHI YOU'RE KILLING EM!! Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 06:42 PM gandhi? redbreegull 06-08-2009, 06:47 PM SWEDEN YOU FUCK yeah, Sweden is truly Marx's vision come to life Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 06:49 PM so you're talking marxism/communism because i think it gets too goddamn confusing when you start calling communism/marxism socialism so please do shut up redbreegull 06-08-2009, 06:52 PM so you're talking marxism/communism because i think it gets too goddamn confusing when you start calling communism/marxism socialism so please do shut up I said SCIENTIFIC socialism. Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 06:58 PM that's not a phrase I've ever used or seen at least not lately, it's probably somewhere in my notes for political philosophies or something Joe 06-08-2009, 07:01 PM trot you debating with a retard , it's like playing kickball witha kid in a wheelchair Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 07:03 PM I know I do it with you a lot too. barden 06-08-2009, 07:04 PM trots, you're getting advice from a gimp, it's like getting advice from mojojo on netphoria. duovamp 06-08-2009, 07:12 PM I'd be okay with instituting some form of socialism, assuming it's optimal for productivity. sppunk 06-08-2009, 07:51 PM Scientific socialism? You mean a nihilistic form of communism? Because I've never in my life - with living in Russia and majoring in Russian history - never heard that bullshit term. duovamp 06-08-2009, 08:03 PM Do we live in a scientific republic? Thaniel Buckner 06-08-2009, 08:03 PM that's because redbreegull just made it up in his shit brain. Caine Walker 06-08-2009, 08:39 PM i want redbull to explain scientific socialism. ryan patrick 06-08-2009, 08:58 PM you guys are doing it wrong Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 09:21 PM oh so i wasn't just rusty "scientific socialism" is utter tripe. wunderbar Caine Walker 06-08-2009, 09:22 PM if sppunk had never lived in russia, we would never have been completely sure. Trotskilicious 06-08-2009, 11:53 PM NO PUBLIUS CLODIUS IT IS NOT A JOKE LIBERTARIAN MEANS LIBERAL ECONOMICS AND NO STATE SOCIALISM MEANS CONSERVATIVE ECONOMY AND BIG STATE THEREFORE WTF IS LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM redbreegull 06-09-2009, 12:11 AM Actually you are all completely wrong. Scientific socialism is socialism as defined by Marx vs. utopian socialism which predated him. Scientific socialism = Marxism. It's just another word for dialectical materialism. Seriously, kiss my ass you fuck heads, you talk to me like I'm a fucking retard when I fucking am correct and you are wrong. redbreegull 06-09-2009, 12:17 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_socialism Suck my dick you fucking retards. Read a goddamn book. Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 12:24 AM just call it marxism it's what everyone else on the FUCKING PLANET is familiar with and there's nothing confusing when you use the word duovamp 06-09-2009, 12:31 AM Scientific Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_socialism) Suck my dick you fucking retards. Read a goddamn book. Well technically this is just scientifically sound socialism, it's not like you could say "Scientific Socialism is the most pure form of socialism" or something, which is the definition it seems like you were trying to grasp. I mean I could say "scientific Existentialism" or "scientific Capitalism" too but it doesn't make it a real term. I thought "Scientific Socialism" the way you described it was something real, not just socialism with the adjective scientific in front of it. ryan patrick 06-09-2009, 12:35 AM THREAD FAILURE REBOOT redbreegull 06-09-2009, 12:54 AM Well technically this is just scientifically sound socialism, it's not like you could say "Scientific Socialism is the most pure form of socialism" or something, which is the definition it seems like you were trying to grasp. I mean I could say "scientific Existentialism" or "scientific Capitalism" too but it doesn't make it a real term. I thought "Scientific Socialism" the way you described it was something real, not just socialism with the adjective scientific in front of it. It is actually completely different from utopian socialism, and the differences between Marx and earlier socialists is absolutely noteworthy. It is the "purest" form of socialism in the sense that when we think of socialism today, we generally think of Marx's socialism and the various ways it got watered down and fucked up in the 20th century. I didn't say Marxism because I assumed that people having an argument about socialism knew enough about it to recognize the name of one of it's two major branches. Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 12:55 AM socialism is for dipshits Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 12:57 AM i know about marxism, leninism, and utopian communism/socialism so YES I KNOW ABOUT THE MAJOR BRANCHES I DIDN'T EVER SEE THE POINT OF SAYING SCIENTIFIC SOCIALISM UNLESS I WAS WRITING A PAPER ABOUT IT AND I DIDN'T BECAUSE I'M FAR MORE INTERESTED IN THE REVOLUTION THAN THE PHILOSOPHY YOU FUCKING CUNTSTAIN Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 12:58 AM jesus christ the faggot hasn't even graduated college yet and hasn't realized that most of this shit gets compressed into one huge block and you barely remember a lot of the BULLSHIT ASS DETAILS YOU USED TO BE SO PROUD OF KNOWING WHEN YOU WERE A FUCKING DICKHEAD FRESHMAN GOD SHUT UP YOU FAGGOT duovamp 06-09-2009, 01:01 AM Well he is pretending that there is such thing as a term "Scientific Socialism" with the definition of being a purest form of socialism. I think he just wanted to use the word textbook instead of scientific, and is now in a hole. Scientific is really just any old qualifier, it isn't part of a whole, like he wants. redbreegull 06-09-2009, 01:02 AM jesus christ the faggot hasn't even graduated college yet and hasn't realized that most of this shit gets compressed into one huge block and you barely remember a lot of the BULLSHIT ASS DETAILS YOU USED TO BE SO PROUD OF KNOWING WHEN YOU WERE A FUCKING DICKHEAD FRESHMAN GOD SHUT UP YOU FAGGOT Regain composure, you're embarrassing yourself. Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:03 AM no i'm not i'm amusing myself and hopefully others you have much to learn since you don't know dick about the people's will huh bitch, how you like that. how about the decemberists, no not the band you twaddling nonce. ryan patrick 06-09-2009, 01:05 AM socialism is for dipshits :banging: :banging: :banging: :banging: :banging: :banging: :banging: :banging: redbreegull 06-09-2009, 01:06 AM Well he is pretending that there is such thing as a term "Scientific Socialism" with the definition of being a purest form of socialism. I think he just wanted to use the word textbook instead of scientific, and is now in a hole. Scientific is really just any old qualifier, it isn't part of a whole, like he wants. I have no idea what you are talking about. There are TWO MAJOR STREAMS OF THOUGHT IN SOCIALISM. UTOPIAN AND SCIENTIFIC. SCIENTIFIC WAS DEVELOPED BY MARX. IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS MARXISM, COMMUNISM, FULL COMMUNISM, DIALECTICAL MATERIALSIM, OR HISTORICAL MATERIALISM. IT IS A REAL TERM. duovamp 06-09-2009, 01:06 AM *adjusts scholar hat* Well, for my Poli. Sci. minor nobody ever used the term "scientific socialism" and for my Philosophy minor, nobody ever used the term "scientific socialism" when we read Marx. I kind of wish education at the college level weren't privatized though... Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:07 AM I have no idea what you are talking about. There are TWO MAJOR STREAMS OF THOUGHT IN SOCIALISM. UTOPIAN AND SCIENTIFIC. SCIENTIFIC WAS DEVELOPED BY MARX. IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS MARXISM, COMMUNISM, FULL COMMUNISM, DIALECTICAL MATERIALSIM, OR HISTORICAL MATERIALISM. IT IS A REAL TERM. <h1>SOCIALISM IS FOR DIPSHITS</h1> Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:08 AM see i've heard of historical materialism redbreegull 06-09-2009, 01:08 AM no i'm not i'm amusing myself and hopefully others you have much to learn since you don't know dick about the people's will huh bitch, how you like that. how about the decemberists, no not the band you twaddling nonce. I know about the Decemberists. Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:09 AM but you know Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:09 AM socialism is for dipshits duovamp 06-09-2009, 01:11 AM Dialectical materialism, again, isn't really like it's own term so much as it's just materialism using Hegel's typical stupid dialectic approach. I mean I've read more than enough Hegel, Fichte, and Marx to know this... Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:11 AM @ futureboy: maybe a heart attack from laughing too hard duovamp 06-09-2009, 01:12 AM Have you guys heard of Computerial Socialism? It's socialism discussed with the use of computers! duovamp 06-09-2009, 01:12 AM @ futureboy: maybe a heart attack from laughing too hard That kid is the biggest coward. Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:14 AM he really is pathetic i mean seriously there's not many times i'm actually angry at my computer and usually when ALL CAPS make an appearance i'm laughing myself retarded look i think being mean and shouty is fucking funny i dunno about you guys Future Boy 06-09-2009, 01:14 AM @ futureboy: maybe a heart attack from laughing too hard Id miss you just the same. Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:15 AM <3 duovamp 06-09-2009, 01:16 AM Unoriginal avatar, has the political sense of a high school freshman, never posts and hides behind dumb comments, and typically has the boarding demeanor of someone no older than age 12. ohnoitsbonnie 06-09-2009, 01:19 AM Are you talking about me, duovamp? Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 01:21 AM by the way guys i heard socialism is for a particular group but i forgot who duovamp 06-09-2009, 01:26 AM Are you talking about me, duovamp? I'm talking about my penis. My penis has its own account here. And posts often. ryan patrick 06-09-2009, 01:48 AM sciencific pee weinerism dialectical dipshitocracy ryan patrick 06-09-2009, 01:51 AM i have a secret Hegel Fichte Marx? more like Hegel Fuchte Marx (they were gay i am pretty sure that is socialism) Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 02:00 AM they were also dipshits amirite ryan patrick 06-09-2009, 02:15 AM Dshits ryan patrick 06-09-2009, 02:23 AM doubleplusdipshitty D. 06-09-2009, 02:26 AM guys isn't it Decembrist? ryan patrick 06-09-2009, 02:27 AM FUCKING PLANET 3497757 Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 02:28 AM guys isn't it Decembrist? OH SO WHAT IF IT IS D. 06-09-2009, 02:29 AM MAYBE THE DECEMBRISTS WERE SCIENTISTS Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 02:30 AM i wrote a fucking 10 page paper on the DECEMBRISTS and I didn't spell it "correctly" once and I still got an A. jeez louise. Mall cop/grammar police. Double trouble. ryan patrick 06-09-2009, 02:42 AM decembwrists D. 06-09-2009, 02:43 AM i wrote a fucking 10 page paper on the DECEMBRISTS and I didn't spell it "correctly" once and I still got an A. jeez louise. Mall cop/grammar police. Double trouble. i am much better at being the grammar police. i should get paid for it. 28if 06-09-2009, 08:47 AM I <3 socialism. sppunk 06-09-2009, 09:18 AM Does this make Nicholas I a Scientific Emperor? publius clodius 06-09-2009, 10:16 AM Hegel Fickte Marx <!> publius clodius 06-09-2009, 10:19 AM i always thought it was the other way around Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 12:11 PM Does this make Nicholas I a Scientific Emperor? Nick I was a reactionary and a despot that wanted to retain Russian Orthodoxy in the face of growing discontent and intellectualism... Peter the Great especially and Alexander II and maybe Alexander I were both more intellectually driven and Catherine the Great in the beginning too (but she went back on that and burned voltaire's work after having written to him frequently in her youth). In fact, Nicholas I carried on the anti-intellectualism Catherine established at the end of her reign. Alexander III and Nicholas II were also hostile to intellectualism. Sad thing about Alex II was that he was one of the most progressive Tsars but the People's Will blew him up and then Alex III and Nick II followed with increasingly authoritarian and despotic rule that prompted the Revolution. To think that if Alex II lived and established the Duma earlier Russia wouldn't have lived under the Bolshevik yoke...ah well. redbreegull 06-09-2009, 12:18 PM Dialectical materialism, again, isn't really like it's own term so much as it's just materialism using Hegel's typical stupid dialectic approach. I mean I've read more than enough Hegel, Fichte, and Marx to know this... *sigh* Again, that is not true. Dialectical materialism IS a term for Marxism and it refers to Marx's historical take on Feurbach's revised model of Hegel's dialectic. I don't know why this is so hard to believe, but it is a real term just like scientific socialism. BTW Hegel was not even a materialist. Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 12:21 PM who cares Trotskilicious 06-09-2009, 12:21 PM socialism is for dipshits Irrelevant 06-09-2009, 09:29 PM http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xn_O-mM2sFk/Rz8jEdw3i4I/AAAAAAAABBA/7NwEcTC5W3Q/s400/RonPaulGoldHighRes.jpg Caine Walker 06-09-2009, 09:38 PM good american! Mooney 06-09-2009, 10:11 PM speaking of socialism, nova scotia just elected its first ndp governement. Irrelevant 06-09-2009, 10:40 PM speaking of dipshits, nova scotia better than new 06-09-2009, 11:38 PM THREAD FAILURE REBOOT I think you mean a scientific fail. mxzombie 06-10-2009, 09:50 AM guys isn't it Decembrist?differences in transliteration, i imagine. also when redbreegull uses "socialism" and "communism" interchangeably, it betrays at least a partial lack of understanding mxzombie 06-10-2009, 09:52 AM I have no idea what you are talking about. There are TWO MAJOR STREAMS OF THOUGHT IN SOCIALISM. UTOPIAN AND SCIENTIFIC. SCIENTIFIC WAS DEVELOPED BY MARX. IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS...COMMUNISMexhibit A duovamp 06-10-2009, 10:12 AM BTW Hegel was not even a materialist. Show me where I say this. Please. Show me right now where I said this, and not that Hegel merely uses the dialectic approach harder than anyone else I've ever read. |