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ryan patrick
06-08-2009, 02:24 AM
is for dipshits?

ryan patrick
06-08-2009, 02:26 AM
socialism is for dipshits

ryan patrick
06-08-2009, 02:31 AM
1-800-NERD-PENCILS

publius clodius
06-08-2009, 02:32 AM
on netphoria a thread like this could become a sincere discussion about socialism

publius clodius
06-08-2009, 02:32 AM
but yeah, b)

Mo
06-08-2009, 02:37 AM
Is it that time again?

I'm Hardcore
06-08-2009, 02:45 AM
nah

beef curtains
06-08-2009, 08:08 AM
nein

Debaser
06-08-2009, 11:53 AM
not as bad as most people think it is.

prolly not as good as I think it is, too.

Thaniel Buckner
06-08-2009, 11:54 AM
libertarian socialism is better.

Thaniel Buckner
06-08-2009, 11:55 AM
probably the best -ism.

Thaniel Buckner
06-08-2009, 11:55 AM
aside from my jism.

redbreegull
06-08-2009, 12:53 PM
In 100 years the United States is going to have gone all Fabian and all right wing idiots are going to be predictably proven wrong.

28if
06-08-2009, 01:32 PM
^ this

neopryn
06-08-2009, 01:35 PM
i don't have a problem with it. i'm weak, lazy and stupid so it's supposed to help me i think.

Nimrod's Son
06-08-2009, 01:39 PM
It's supposed to, but theory /= practice.

Joe
06-08-2009, 05:48 PM
libertarian socialism is better.

^ i'm with you

redbreegull
06-08-2009, 05:54 PM
So Nimrod, where on planet Earth would you assert that real scientific socialism has been tried?

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 06:23 PM
what on earth is libertarian socialism

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 06:23 PM
So Nimrod, where on planet Earth would you assert that real scientific socialism has been tried?

shut up

sppunk
06-08-2009, 06:26 PM
So Nimrod, where on planet Earth would you assert that real scientific socialism has been tried?

Your high school history class hasn't gotten that far yet, douche.

I feel the need to post in this thread.

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 06:28 PM
SWEDEN YOU FUCK

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 06:29 PM
god i hate it when people try to trap nimrod in pathetic attempts at gotcha moments

leave the nimrod trolling to the professionals please

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 06:29 PM
and yes i get paid to be here, it's for a university research project

barden
06-08-2009, 06:39 PM
SLOW DOWN GANDHI YOU'RE KILLING EM!!

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 06:42 PM
gandhi?

redbreegull
06-08-2009, 06:47 PM
SWEDEN YOU FUCK

yeah, Sweden is truly Marx's vision come to life

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 06:49 PM
so you're talking marxism/communism because i think it gets too goddamn confusing when you start calling communism/marxism socialism

so please do shut up

redbreegull
06-08-2009, 06:52 PM
so you're talking marxism/communism because i think it gets too goddamn confusing when you start calling communism/marxism socialism

so please do shut up

I said SCIENTIFIC socialism.

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 06:58 PM
that's not a phrase I've ever used or seen

at least not lately, it's probably somewhere in my notes for political philosophies or something

Joe
06-08-2009, 07:01 PM
trot you debating with a retard , it's like playing kickball witha kid in a wheelchair

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 07:03 PM
I know I do it with you a lot too.

barden
06-08-2009, 07:04 PM
trots, you're getting advice from a gimp, it's like getting advice from mojojo on netphoria.

duovamp
06-08-2009, 07:12 PM
I'd be okay with instituting some form of socialism, assuming it's optimal for productivity.

sppunk
06-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Scientific socialism? You mean a nihilistic form of communism?

Because I've never in my life - with living in Russia and majoring in Russian history - never heard that bullshit term.

duovamp
06-08-2009, 08:03 PM
Do we live in a scientific republic?

Thaniel Buckner
06-08-2009, 08:03 PM
that's because redbreegull just made it up in his shit brain.

Caine Walker
06-08-2009, 08:39 PM
i want redbull to explain scientific socialism.

ryan patrick
06-08-2009, 08:58 PM
you guys are doing it wrong

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 09:21 PM
oh so i wasn't just rusty "scientific socialism" is utter tripe.

wunderbar

Caine Walker
06-08-2009, 09:22 PM
if sppunk had never lived in russia, we would never have been completely sure.

Trotskilicious
06-08-2009, 11:53 PM
NO PUBLIUS CLODIUS IT IS NOT A JOKE

LIBERTARIAN MEANS LIBERAL ECONOMICS AND NO STATE
SOCIALISM MEANS CONSERVATIVE ECONOMY AND BIG STATE

THEREFORE

WTF IS LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM

redbreegull
06-09-2009, 12:11 AM
Actually you are all completely wrong. Scientific socialism is socialism as defined by Marx vs. utopian socialism which predated him. Scientific socialism = Marxism. It's just another word for dialectical materialism. Seriously, kiss my ass you fuck heads, you talk to me like I'm a fucking retard when I fucking am correct and you are wrong.

redbreegull
06-09-2009, 12:17 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_socialism
Suck my dick you fucking retards. Read a goddamn book.

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 12:24 AM
just call it marxism

it's what everyone else on the FUCKING PLANET is familiar with and there's nothing confusing when you use the word

duovamp
06-09-2009, 12:31 AM
Scientific Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_socialism)
Suck my dick you fucking retards. Read a goddamn book.

Well technically this is just scientifically sound socialism, it's not like you could say "Scientific Socialism is the most pure form of socialism" or something, which is the definition it seems like you were trying to grasp. I mean I could say "scientific Existentialism" or "scientific Capitalism" too but it doesn't make it a real term. I thought "Scientific Socialism" the way you described it was something real, not just socialism with the adjective scientific in front of it.

ryan patrick
06-09-2009, 12:35 AM
THREAD FAILURE

REBOOT

redbreegull
06-09-2009, 12:54 AM
Well technically this is just scientifically sound socialism, it's not like you could say "Scientific Socialism is the most pure form of socialism" or something, which is the definition it seems like you were trying to grasp. I mean I could say "scientific Existentialism" or "scientific Capitalism" too but it doesn't make it a real term. I thought "Scientific Socialism" the way you described it was something real, not just socialism with the adjective scientific in front of it.

It is actually completely different from utopian socialism, and the differences between Marx and earlier socialists is absolutely noteworthy. It is the "purest" form of socialism in the sense that when we think of socialism today, we generally think of Marx's socialism and the various ways it got watered down and fucked up in the 20th century. I didn't say Marxism because I assumed that people having an argument about socialism knew enough about it to recognize the name of one of it's two major branches.

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 12:55 AM
socialism is for dipshits

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 12:57 AM
i know about marxism, leninism, and utopian communism/socialism so YES I KNOW ABOUT THE MAJOR BRANCHES I DIDN'T EVER SEE THE POINT OF SAYING SCIENTIFIC SOCIALISM UNLESS I WAS WRITING A PAPER ABOUT IT AND I DIDN'T BECAUSE I'M FAR MORE INTERESTED IN THE REVOLUTION THAN THE PHILOSOPHY YOU FUCKING CUNTSTAIN

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 12:58 AM
jesus christ the faggot hasn't even graduated college yet and hasn't realized that most of this shit gets compressed into one huge block and you barely remember a lot of the BULLSHIT ASS DETAILS YOU USED TO BE SO PROUD OF KNOWING WHEN YOU WERE A FUCKING DICKHEAD FRESHMAN GOD SHUT UP YOU FAGGOT

duovamp
06-09-2009, 01:01 AM
Well he is pretending that there is such thing as a term "Scientific Socialism" with the definition of being a purest form of socialism. I think he just wanted to use the word textbook instead of scientific, and is now in a hole. Scientific is really just any old qualifier, it isn't part of a whole, like he wants.

redbreegull
06-09-2009, 01:02 AM
jesus christ the faggot hasn't even graduated college yet and hasn't realized that most of this shit gets compressed into one huge block and you barely remember a lot of the BULLSHIT ASS DETAILS YOU USED TO BE SO PROUD OF KNOWING WHEN YOU WERE A FUCKING DICKHEAD FRESHMAN GOD SHUT UP YOU FAGGOT

Regain composure, you're embarrassing yourself.

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:03 AM
no i'm not i'm amusing myself and hopefully others

you have much to learn since you don't know dick about the people's will huh bitch, how you like that. how about the decemberists, no not the band you twaddling nonce.

ryan patrick
06-09-2009, 01:05 AM
socialism is for dipshits

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redbreegull
06-09-2009, 01:06 AM
Well he is pretending that there is such thing as a term "Scientific Socialism" with the definition of being a purest form of socialism. I think he just wanted to use the word textbook instead of scientific, and is now in a hole. Scientific is really just any old qualifier, it isn't part of a whole, like he wants.

I have no idea what you are talking about. There are TWO MAJOR STREAMS OF THOUGHT IN SOCIALISM. UTOPIAN AND SCIENTIFIC. SCIENTIFIC WAS DEVELOPED BY MARX. IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS MARXISM, COMMUNISM, FULL COMMUNISM, DIALECTICAL MATERIALSIM, OR HISTORICAL MATERIALISM. IT IS A REAL TERM.

duovamp
06-09-2009, 01:06 AM
*adjusts scholar hat* Well, for my Poli. Sci. minor nobody ever used the term "scientific socialism" and for my Philosophy minor, nobody ever used the term "scientific socialism" when we read Marx.

I kind of wish education at the college level weren't privatized though...

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:07 AM
I have no idea what you are talking about. There are TWO MAJOR STREAMS OF THOUGHT IN SOCIALISM. UTOPIAN AND SCIENTIFIC. SCIENTIFIC WAS DEVELOPED BY MARX. IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS MARXISM, COMMUNISM, FULL COMMUNISM, DIALECTICAL MATERIALSIM, OR HISTORICAL MATERIALISM. IT IS A REAL TERM.

<h1>SOCIALISM IS FOR DIPSHITS</h1>

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:08 AM
see i've heard of historical materialism

redbreegull
06-09-2009, 01:08 AM
no i'm not i'm amusing myself and hopefully others

you have much to learn since you don't know dick about the people's will huh bitch, how you like that. how about the decemberists, no not the band you twaddling nonce.

I know about the Decemberists.

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:09 AM
but you know

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:09 AM
socialism is for dipshits

duovamp
06-09-2009, 01:11 AM
Dialectical materialism, again, isn't really like it's own term so much as it's just materialism using Hegel's typical stupid dialectic approach. I mean I've read more than enough Hegel, Fichte, and Marx to know this...

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:11 AM
@ futureboy: maybe a heart attack from laughing too hard

duovamp
06-09-2009, 01:12 AM
Have you guys heard of Computerial Socialism? It's socialism discussed with the use of computers!

duovamp
06-09-2009, 01:12 AM
@ futureboy: maybe a heart attack from laughing too hard

That kid is the biggest coward.

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:14 AM
he really is pathetic

i mean seriously there's not many times i'm actually angry at my computer and usually when ALL CAPS make an appearance i'm laughing myself retarded

look i think being mean and shouty is fucking funny i dunno about you guys

Future Boy
06-09-2009, 01:14 AM
@ futureboy: maybe a heart attack from laughing too hard

Id miss you just the same.

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:15 AM
<3

duovamp
06-09-2009, 01:16 AM
Unoriginal avatar, has the political sense of a high school freshman, never posts and hides behind dumb comments, and typically has the boarding demeanor of someone no older than age 12.

ohnoitsbonnie
06-09-2009, 01:19 AM
Are you talking about me, duovamp?

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 01:21 AM
by the way guys i heard socialism is for a particular group but i forgot who

duovamp
06-09-2009, 01:26 AM
Are you talking about me, duovamp?

I'm talking about my penis. My penis has its own account here. And posts often.

ryan patrick
06-09-2009, 01:48 AM
sciencific pee weinerism

dialectical dipshitocracy

ryan patrick
06-09-2009, 01:51 AM
i have a secret

Hegel Fichte Marx?

more like Hegel Fuchte Marx

(they were gay i am pretty sure that is socialism)

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 02:00 AM
they were also dipshits amirite

ryan patrick
06-09-2009, 02:15 AM
Dshits

ryan patrick
06-09-2009, 02:23 AM
doubleplusdipshitty

D.
06-09-2009, 02:26 AM
guys

isn't it Decembrist?

ryan patrick
06-09-2009, 02:27 AM
FUCKING PLANET

3497757

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 02:28 AM
guys

isn't it Decembrist?

OH SO WHAT IF IT IS

D.
06-09-2009, 02:29 AM
MAYBE THE DECEMBRISTS WERE SCIENTISTS

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 02:30 AM
i wrote a fucking 10 page paper on the DECEMBRISTS and I didn't spell it "correctly" once and I still got an A. jeez louise. Mall cop/grammar police. Double trouble.

ryan patrick
06-09-2009, 02:42 AM
decembwrists

D.
06-09-2009, 02:43 AM
i wrote a fucking 10 page paper on the DECEMBRISTS and I didn't spell it "correctly" once and I still got an A. jeez louise. Mall cop/grammar police. Double trouble.
i am much better at being the grammar police. i should get paid for it.

28if
06-09-2009, 08:47 AM
I <3 socialism.

sppunk
06-09-2009, 09:18 AM
Does this make Nicholas I a Scientific Emperor?

publius clodius
06-09-2009, 10:16 AM
Hegel Fickte Marx
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publius clodius
06-09-2009, 10:19 AM
i always thought it was the other way around

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 12:11 PM
Does this make Nicholas I a Scientific Emperor?

Nick I was a reactionary and a despot that wanted to retain Russian Orthodoxy in the face of growing discontent and intellectualism...

Peter the Great especially and Alexander II and maybe Alexander I were both more intellectually driven and Catherine the Great in the beginning too (but she went back on that and burned voltaire's work after having written to him frequently in her youth). In fact, Nicholas I carried on the anti-intellectualism Catherine established at the end of her reign. Alexander III and Nicholas II were also hostile to intellectualism.

Sad thing about Alex II was that he was one of the most progressive Tsars but the People's Will blew him up and then Alex III and Nick II followed with increasingly authoritarian and despotic rule that prompted the Revolution. To think that if Alex II lived and established the Duma earlier Russia wouldn't have lived under the Bolshevik yoke...ah well.

redbreegull
06-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Dialectical materialism, again, isn't really like it's own term so much as it's just materialism using Hegel's typical stupid dialectic approach. I mean I've read more than enough Hegel, Fichte, and Marx to know this...

*sigh*

Again, that is not true. Dialectical materialism IS a term for Marxism and it refers to Marx's historical take on Feurbach's revised model of Hegel's dialectic. I don't know why this is so hard to believe, but it is a real term just like scientific socialism.

BTW Hegel was not even a materialist.

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 12:21 PM
who cares

Trotskilicious
06-09-2009, 12:21 PM
socialism is for dipshits

Irrelevant
06-09-2009, 09:29 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xn_O-mM2sFk/Rz8jEdw3i4I/AAAAAAAABBA/7NwEcTC5W3Q/s400/RonPaulGoldHighRes.jpg

Caine Walker
06-09-2009, 09:38 PM
good american!

Mooney
06-09-2009, 10:11 PM
speaking of socialism, nova scotia just elected its first ndp governement.

Irrelevant
06-09-2009, 10:40 PM
speaking of dipshits, nova scotia

better than new
06-09-2009, 11:38 PM
THREAD FAILURE

REBOOT

I think you mean a scientific fail.

mxzombie
06-10-2009, 09:50 AM
guys

isn't it Decembrist?differences in transliteration, i imagine.

also when redbreegull uses "socialism" and "communism" interchangeably, it betrays at least a partial lack of understanding

mxzombie
06-10-2009, 09:52 AM
I have no idea what you are talking about. There are TWO MAJOR STREAMS OF THOUGHT IN SOCIALISM. UTOPIAN AND SCIENTIFIC. SCIENTIFIC WAS DEVELOPED BY MARX. IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS...COMMUNISMexhibit A

duovamp
06-10-2009, 10:12 AM
BTW Hegel was not even a materialist.

Show me where I say this. Please. Show me right now where I said this, and not that Hegel merely uses the dialectic approach harder than anyone else I've ever read.

Aeris Hilton
07-29-2013, 07:40 PM
socialism is for dipshits