You can go ahead and all go fuck yourselves for taking out the only goddamn part of the Stimulus package that was worth a shit.

Basically, they effectively killed the $15,000 homebuyer tax credit.

This thread brought to you by around 340 hours of work gone to shit because some dumbfuck congressman wants a new sealcoat put on his town's main street.

I dunno, tearing out that "unnecessary" education money really made this thing worth passing in my eyes. :rolleyes:

It's really bothersome to see something with good intentions behind it get turned into a total farce.

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I dunno, tearing out that "unnecessary" education money really made this thing worth passing in my eyes. :rolleyes:

It's really bothersome to see something with good intentions behind it get turned into a total farce.

The states should be funding education, not the feds.

Also education /= bailout.

The states should be funding education, not the feds.

Also education /= bailout.

four months ago i tried to have a conversation with my ex girlfriend about exactly this. Her unyielding fixation to the exact opposite of this statement ended up being one of the contributing factors in my breaking up with her

you two are idiots

you two are idiots

yes everything is a stimulus

The states should be funding education, not the feds.

Also education /= bailout.

for real, i mean the U.S. is outperforming all other nations in education, so don't fix what ain't broken.

not sure what bailouts have to do with anything though.

You can go ahead and all go fuck yourselves for taking out the only goddamn part of the Stimulus package that was worth a shit.

Basically, they effectively killed the $15,000 homebuyer tax credit.

It's still there (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/02/heres_who_will_benefit_from_st.html).

It's been lowered to $8,000 of free money to not-really-that-needy people that can afford to buy a home between jan and aug this year.

That's for first-time homebuyers ... who already received a $7,500 tax credit. So they've increased the deal by $500 essentially.

It's still there (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/02/heres_who_will_benefit_from_st.html).

It's been lowered to $8,000 of free money to not-really-that-needy people that can afford to buy a home between jan and aug this year.

You do realize that it's the "not-really-that-needy" that can turn around the economy and not the "please give me a handout" types, right?

That's for first-time homebuyers ... who already received a $7,500 tax credit. So they've increased the deal by $500 essentially.

and they no longer have to pay it back. the original $7500 deal, you have to pay it back -- it was essentially a no interest loan from the government. So they've increased the deal by $8000 essentially.

You do realize that it's the "not-really-that-needy" that can turn around the economy and not the "please give me a handout" types, right?

ah trickle down economics. works everytime amirite?

ah trickle down economics. works everytime amirite?

For someone who supports a progressive tax system, you seemingly don't want anyone in the higher brackets making income in order to pay those taxes.

All of that aside, we're not talking about "the rich" here, we're talking about the middle class buying their first homes. The success of teh country is directly related to the success of the middle class. But I suppose you're all like "fuck them, they can buy a house, let's take away any incentive to do so."

my original statement was meant to imply that there are more efficient ways to stimulate the economy. I don't hate the rich or middle class.

But however, the way we as a country place so much priority on home ownership seems a bit wrong headed in many ways. This (over)incentive to push people into buying homes may have played a part in the downfall of the economy.

well, it doesn't matter one way or the other, since european banks alone seem to have 16.3 trillions (eur) "worth" of assets in their books, which aren't really worth anything anymore. when this brings europe tumbling down the shitter we'll take america and the rest with us...

the best investemnt right now, if you have any sort of money, would be a little bit of land, somewhere away from the cities where you can grow your own crops and house a few pigs and chickens...

oh yeah, source:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/4590512/European-banks-may-need-16.3-trillion-bail-out-EC-dcoument-warns.html

apparently, the figures have been removed from the text after it went online, but you can still see it in the document title....(and a link to a blog on that site, which isn't there any longer as well

yes everything is a stimulus

obviously you don't understand what I thought was so fucking dumb about your post.

But however, the way we as a country place so much priority on home ownership seems a bit wrong headed in many ways. This (over)incentive to push people into buying homes may have played a part in the downfall of the economy.

this should be fucking obvious to anyone with more than two braincells to rub together but there aren't many of those types around here.

The states should be funding education, not the feds.

Also education /= bailout.

I think you mean education /= stimulus.

who cares we should spend on it anyway

lol states

by the way the republicans now want to reinvest in the military industrial complex

weapons = stimulus = awesome
learning = not a stimulus = bad

lessons we learn