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Jesus Cambodia
12-12-2008, 01:40 PM
Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, and Doomsday Clock. Is he serious? He wants to be considered a serious artist, and then does everything in his power to make sure he isn't. Wow. Wow. Wow. Not world of warcraft. WOW. Is he actually having a nervous breakdown right now? This is performance art at it's finest. He obviously had fantasies of being some huge rock band like U2 or Rolling Stones or Metallica or even Led Zeppelin. Then Zeitgeist bombs and this is the hissy fit we get. Jesus Christ. A singles band? Are you kidding me? Would any "serious artist" like Neil Young or Springsteen decide to abandon albums and say that it's time to make radio friendly singles? Excuse me Bill, but whenever you try and intentionally make a radio friendly song we get pure shit. Nevermind the fact that to make a hot single these days you need to be a sexy teenager or an american idol winner, of which you are obviously neither. This whole ordeal is fascinating, and I'm glad I follow this band. This is a great example of how success and fame destroys a person's perception of reality. And this is the end of my rant. Sorry if these opinions have been posted by others before me in other threads. I feel that I am a serious poster like Cool as Ice Cream or Rocklobster and that I deserve to have my opinions in their own thread.

SlingeroGuitaro
12-12-2008, 01:43 PM
five stars

T&T
12-12-2008, 01:45 PM
I feel that I am a serious poster like Cool as Ice Cream or Rocklobster and that I deserve to have my opinions in their own thread.

this is where i knew you must be joking.

dustrock
12-12-2008, 01:52 PM
GUITAR PICK?

Rickpat12
12-12-2008, 02:36 PM
SETLIST?

Rickpat12
12-12-2008, 02:38 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2h4w46h.jpg
.

yoshinobu's revenge
12-12-2008, 02:39 PM
you didn't mention Jamez

aldango
12-12-2008, 02:40 PM
why is everyone taking billy's words so seriously all of a sudden

Jesus Cambodia
12-12-2008, 03:11 PM
why is everyone taking billy's words so seriously all of a sudden

That's what he wants.

Plus any illusions of Billy being a cool guy have been shattered. The rumors are all true! He really is a capital D D-bag!

BlissedandGone2
12-12-2008, 03:11 PM
That's what he wants.

you dont know anything about anything, let alone what billy wants.

Jesus Cambodia
12-12-2008, 03:13 PM
you dont know anything about anything, let alone what billy wants.

I can assure you that I do know something about something.

BlissedandGone2
12-12-2008, 03:14 PM
I can assure you that I do know something about something.

alright then, its settled.

but do you have a guitar pick?

Jesus Cambodia
12-12-2008, 03:24 PM
alright then, its settled.

but do you have a guitar pick?

Nope, I don't. And you have ruined my epic thread. Just so you know, Rufio is a big fat gaywad.

chrisothoulo
12-12-2008, 03:32 PM
I can assure you that I do know something about something.

if you met billy you would probably cream in your pants... lol

Jesus Cambodia
12-12-2008, 03:57 PM
if you met billy you would probably cream in your pants... lol

I don't understand. Does... not.... compute. My opinion of him has been like a roller coaster ride lately. Afer zeitgeist it was shit. After if all goes wrong and these recent concerts I was excited and thought maybe he was back on track again. And then this interview. I'm sure he'll get it together enough to put out good shit again. But if you read that last interview and then look at GLOW, the future looks bleak (and embarrassing). Seriously, I'm amazed that they would even put that song out. It's one of the all-time shittiest songs Ive heard by any band, let alone one of my favorites. Shame. This is what happens when he tries to make a single. So back to your creaming pants thing. Nah. I don't even know if I would say anything to him. He's a nutball.

ravenguy2000
12-12-2008, 04:03 PM
Nevermind the fact that to make a hot single these days you need to be a sexy teenager or an american idol winner, of which you are obviously neither.

You forgot the autotune.

BlissedandGone2
12-12-2008, 04:03 PM
It's one of the all-time shittiest songs Ive heard by any band, let alone one of my favorites.

that is a really poor use of that idiom. is english not your first language?







































wanna buy a setlist?

Jesus Cambodia
12-12-2008, 04:08 PM
Yes, I'm ESL. As my name implies I am Jesus Christ, returned in all my glory. Unfortunately I was born in Cambodia to a whore who isn't anything close to a virgin. Establishing credibility in the religious community has been a real challenge. :(

BlissedandGone2
12-12-2008, 04:10 PM
$4

bja1288
12-12-2008, 04:29 PM
that is a really poor use of that idiom. is english not your first language?




wait what is wrong with the use of let alone?

Jesus Cambodia
12-12-2008, 04:46 PM
wait what is wrong with the use of let alone?

He's just an idiot. Please don't call him out on it unless you want to get down in that pit and wallow in the filth with him.

bja1288
12-12-2008, 04:47 PM
He's just an idiot. Please don't call him out on it unless you want to get down in that pit and wallow in the filth with him.

but hes an english major if i recall correctly so it caught me off guard. i might have to put on the grammar police suit and call him out

Gollum
12-12-2008, 04:57 PM
I think you're right that Billy thought Zeitgeist would be huge but since it wasn't he's now saying "we're so alternative, the world isn't ready for us because we sound like the Scorpions in 1985" every time they fail.

Pizza Club
12-12-2008, 05:29 PM
Jesus Cambodia is the worst fucking poster ever.

T&T
12-12-2008, 05:35 PM
he's a banana alt i bet.

MisterSquishyHalo
12-12-2008, 05:41 PM
Wow. Wow. Wow. Not world of warcraft. WOW.

:rofl:

Raventhird
12-12-2008, 06:00 PM
A singles band? Are you kidding me? Would any "serious artist" like Neil Young or Springsteen decide to abandon albums and say that it's time to make radio friendly singles? Excuse me Bill, but whenever you try and intentionally make a radio friendly song we get pure shit.

Correct. It's a contradiction: If he wants to be a serious artist, then he should record a double album without goddamn "Starz", "Doomzday Clockz" oder "Tarantulaz" on it. He can do 30 minute Space-Jams on it, fine with me.

BlissedandGone2
12-12-2008, 06:56 PM
wait what is wrong with the use of let alone?

It's grammatically correct, but worded horribly and logically idiotic. 'let alone' is meant to help emphasize something by contrasting two examples, but basically what he said is, "this song is my least favorite song, this song is not my favorite song". It doesn't make sense to just throw in a "let alone" sentence that is unprovoked and so horribly straight forward and repetitive.

if i said to him, 'but didnt you love that single g.l.o.w.? I thought it was your favorite.'
his response would make sense as, 'glow isn't even in my top 1,000,000,000 songs, let alone my favorite'

so its a poor use of the idiom.

ChaosEffect
12-12-2008, 07:15 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2h4w46h.jpg
:rockon: Mr. Courageous O.D.B! You better recongize hes a P-I-M-P! :rockon:

GRAMMAR POLICE
12-12-2008, 08:52 PM
It's grammatically correct, but worded horribly and logically idiotic. 'let alone' is meant to help emphasize something by contrasting two examples, but basically what he said is, "this song is my least favorite song, this song is not my favorite song". It doesn't make sense to just throw in a "let alone" sentence that is unprovoked and so horribly straight forward and repetitive.

if i said to him, 'but didnt you love that single g.l.o.w.? I thought it was your favorite.'
his response would make sense as, 'glow isn't even in my top 1,000,000,000 songs, let alone my favorite'

so its a poor use of the idiom.

THANKS FOR WATCHING OUT FOR WHAT'S IMPORTANT IN THIS WORLD, BUT NEXT TIME LEAVE THIS UP TO THE BIG BOYS. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A BADGE, LET ALONE THE GRAMMATICAL KNOWLEDGE NECESSARY TO POLICE THIS FORUM. JESUS, I HAVE GIVEN YOU A WRITTEN WARNING AND FILED A RESTRAINING ORDER FOR MR. LET ALONE SO THAT HE WILL NOT BE ABUSED IN THE FUTURE. MOVE ALONG FOLKS!

Springbridge
12-12-2008, 09:06 PM
Excuse me Bill, but whenever you try and intentionally make a radio friendly song we get pure shit.

Ah this is so true, my least favorite Pumpkins songs are always the damn singles.

aldango
12-12-2008, 10:22 PM
That's what he wants.

Plus any illusions of Billy being a cool guy have been shattered. The rumors are all true! He really is a capital D D-bag!

if you had actually read my post you would have shut the fuck up by now

Rairun
12-12-2008, 10:38 PM
It's grammatically correct, but worded horribly and logically idiotic. 'let alone' is meant to help emphasize something by contrasting two examples, but basically what he said is, "this song is my least favorite song, this song is not my favorite song". It doesn't make sense to just throw in a "let alone" sentence that is unprovoked and so horribly straight forward and repetitive.

if i said to him, 'but didnt you love that single g.l.o.w.? I thought it was your favorite.'
his response would make sense as, 'glow isn't even in my top 1,000,000,000 songs, let alone my favorite'

so its a poor use of the idiom.

I'm pretty sure "one of my favorites" referred to the Pumpkins (one of his favorite bands), not the song.

Also, it's supposed to be "it's", not "its."

My Blue Heaven
12-12-2008, 11:03 PM
I'm pretty sure "one of my favorites" referred to the Pumpkins (one of his favorite bands), not the song.

Also, it's supposed to be "it's", not "its."

just. fuck. off.

Shallowed
12-13-2008, 03:11 AM
Everyone in this thread can fuck off.

Jesus Cambodia
12-13-2008, 07:28 AM
I'm pretty sure "one of my favorites" referred to the Pumpkins (one of his favorite bands), not the song.

Also, it's supposed to be "it's", not "its."

Oh awesome, somebody without a degree in English understood what I was trying to say. Neato! (Should there have been a comma between Oh and awesome? Where are the authorities when you need them?)

OwenWilsonsNose
12-13-2008, 10:41 AM
I love this perception by many of you that Zeitgeist bombed. It went fucking gold. That is hard to do these days. What?, should it have sold 10 million copies and went diamond in order for it to have been considered a hit?. Fucking stupid. Oh and also, the people who bitch about Billys weird rants and make posts about it are worse than he is. Anyone who's been a fan for any extended period of time knows thats what he does. He says weird stupid shit that he shouldnt say, and makes himself sound like a jackass. You're still going to stick around to see what he does next. Get over it and stop your pathetic bitching.

Jesus Cambodia
12-13-2008, 10:54 AM
I love this perception by many of you that Zeitgeist bombed. It went fucking gold. That is hard to do these days. What?, should it have sold 10 million copies and went diamond in order for it to have been considered a hit?. Fucking stupid. Oh and also, the people who bitch about Billys weird rants and make posts about it are worse than he is. Anyone who's been a fan for any extended period of time knows thats what he does. He says weird stupid shit that he shouldnt say, and makes himself sound like a jackass. You're still going to stick around to see what he does next. Get over it and stop your pathetic bitching.

It's Billy's perception, not anyone else's. Which is why we get the current hissy fit. And I think this is different. Yes, we've all seen this before, but it was in the form of Billy saying "This is our last guitar rock record" or whatever. Just meaningless shit like that. And he's usually backed it up when he said shit like that. And now he's acting like I-don't-even-know-what, a 13 year old? Yeah, I knew he was an egomaniac and blah blah blah, but I didn't know he was THIS bad. And besides, where else are you going to bitch about this irrelevant shit? The Salon.com letters to the editor?

(I guess I shouldn't say his other statements are meaningless, what am I trying to say here? I think that deciding to take the band in a new direction is one thing, and taking the band in a new direction simply because the band didn't sell enough records is another.)

myosis
12-13-2008, 11:15 AM
I love this perception by many of you that Zeitgeist bombed. It went fucking gold. That is hard to do these days. What?, should it have sold 10 million copies and went diamond in order for it to have been considered a hit?. Fucking stupid. Oh and also, the people who bitch about Billys weird rants and make posts about it are worse than he is. Anyone who's been a fan for any extended period of time knows thats what he does. He says weird stupid shit that he shouldnt say, and makes himself sound like a jackass. You're still going to stick around to see what he does next. Get over it and stop your pathetic bitching.
you are doing pathetic bitching about people doing pathetic bitching about billy corgan doing pathetic bitching.

dudehitscar
12-13-2008, 01:19 PM
zeitgeist did bomb. Sure it went Gold.. billy does have a hardcore fanbase. But even they didn't like it much.. most of us anyway.

wpc33
12-13-2008, 02:20 PM
Zeitgeist and the Kingdom of The Crystal Skull

Shallowed
12-13-2008, 03:55 PM
I feel that I am a serious poster like Cool as Ice Cream or Rocklobster and that I deserve to have my opinions in their own thread.

You do realise it only takes 5 posts, don't you?

carapatricia
12-13-2008, 07:29 PM
this thread is hillarious.

My Blue Heaven
12-13-2008, 11:21 PM
or is it knollarious?

Pit Boss
12-13-2008, 11:27 PM
Does anyone here even care about the music anymore or do you just complain about everything Billy is quoted on?

Ugly
12-13-2008, 11:27 PM
this thread =

<img src = "http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/thegodblog_images/King-784445.jpg">

Cool As Ice Cream
12-14-2008, 12:42 PM
I feel that I am a serious poster like Cool as Ice Cream or Rocklobster and that I deserve to have my opinions in their own thread.

Since when do I make separate threads for my opinions?

brock666
12-18-2008, 09:37 PM
I feel that I am a serious poster like Rocklobster

HAHAHAHA for a second there, I thought you said rocklobster is a serious poster.

BlissedandGone2
12-18-2008, 09:44 PM
allstar thread alert.

Gish08
12-19-2008, 09:18 AM
Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, and Doomsday Clock. Is he serious? He wants to be considered a serious artist, and then does everything in his power to make sure he isn't. Wow. Wow. Wow. Not world of warcraft. WOW. Is he actually having a nervous breakdown right now? This is performance art at it's finest. He obviously had fantasies of being some huge rock band like U2 or Rolling Stones or Metallica or even Led Zeppelin. Then Zeitgeist bombs and this is the hissy fit we get. Jesus Christ. A singles band? Are you kidding me? Would any "serious artist" like Neil Young or Springsteen decide to abandon albums and say that it's time to make radio friendly singles? Excuse me Bill, but whenever you try and intentionally make a radio friendly song we get pure shit. Nevermind the fact that to make a hot single these days you need to be a sexy teenager or an american idol winner, of which you are obviously neither. This whole ordeal is fascinating, and I'm glad I follow this band. This is a great example of how success and fame destroys a person's perception of reality. And this is the end of my rant. Sorry if these opinions have been posted by others before me in other threads. I feel that I am a serious poster like Cool as Ice Cream or Rocklobster and that I deserve to have my opinions in their own thread.
shut the fuck up

Shallowed
12-20-2008, 12:38 AM
del

douglas78
12-20-2008, 08:17 PM
Since when do I make separate threads for my opinions?



:blush:

Trotskilicious
12-20-2008, 08:48 PM
Wow. Wow. Wow. Not world of warcraft. WOW.

God this is embarrassing.

Shallowed
12-21-2008, 11:01 PM
What glory?

Mariner
12-22-2008, 11:20 AM
What glory?



YouTube - Smashing Pumpkins - Thru the Eyes of Ruby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVGUXXVnag)

T&T
12-22-2008, 12:50 PM
thanks jesus.

i heard you got a job at wal*mart, how's that working out?

gbyealluweirdos
12-22-2008, 10:23 PM
i regard this whole 'singles band' business as a punishment BPC2 wants to inflict upon netphorians. sadistic, but i guess i can understand why.

killtrocity
12-23-2008, 01:26 AM
Billy Patrick Corgan 2?

Jesus Cambodia
12-23-2008, 11:13 AM
thanks jesus.

i heard you got a job at wal*mart, how's that working out?

I might retire at age 30. Not because I can afford it, but just because I don't have any ambition or goals for my life. If I do it, I'm going to occupy my spare time by becoming a greeter at Wal-Mart. Best job in the universe. With that status it's nothing but smooth sailing and eaaaaaaaaaaaasy pussy.

Jesus Cambodia
12-23-2008, 05:16 PM
... I am a God...
:mad: Ezekiel 28:2 :mad:

<img src="http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_ghostbusters_1b.jpg"></img>

Caine Walker
12-23-2008, 05:25 PM
what the hell is going on in here...?

Shallowed
12-23-2008, 08:50 PM
The same thing that was always going on in here.

SpFission
12-24-2008, 12:00 AM
The last page of this thread made my head explode.