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Floppy Nono
11-21-2008, 04:32 AM
19-year-old Commits Suicide on Justin.tv NewTeeVee (http://newteevee.com/2008/11/20/19-year-old-commits-suicide-on-justintv/)

19-year-old Commits Suicide on Justin.tv

In a striking display of the power of live video, Abraham K. Biggs committed suicide on Wednesday while broadcasting himself on video site Justin.tv. As we understand it from various forum posts, the 19-year-old Floridian was apparently egged on by commenters on Justin.tv and fellow forum users on bodybuilding.com. Biggs overdosed on pills while on camera and appeared to be breathing for hours until watchers realized he might be serious, at which point they alerted the police. The video kept running until police and EMTs broke Biggs’ door down and blocked the camera’s view.

We confirmed Biggs’ death with the Broward County medical examiner. The Justin.tv video and many of the forum posts have been taken down.

When asked about the broadcast via email, Justin.tv CEO Michael Seibel said:

As for the broadcaster incident last night, we don’t comment on individual videos, however, our policy prohibits inappropriate content on Justin.tv. We rely on the community to flag videos that they feel are objectionable. Once a video is flagged, it is reviewed and quickly removed from the system if it violates our Terms of Use.

We won’t post the disturbing content here, but much of it is still online. Images of the broadcast have been posted here and here, and there’s also a suicide note from Biggs, who went by the screenname CandyJunkie. An account of forum users watching the broadcast and calling the police is here. There are also rest-in-peace comments on what appears to be Biggs’ MySpace page. The Justin.tv broadcast used to be here.

The contention that filming and uploading (and even hosting video of) a crime is a crime as well might not be valid, but given the very nature of live broadcasts, the issue becomes more complicated.

And it’s not as if technology enabled the taking of a life, or as if this hasn’t happened before. A British man hung himself last year after allegedly being goaded on by fellow users on Paltalk, another live video site. There was even a widely distributed movie on the topic of live-streamed killings released earlier this year called Untraceable. But last night’s incident raises a thought-provoking question regarding free hosting of live broadcasts — what could sites like Justin.tv possibly do to prevent live-streamed snuff films?

Justin.tv has already come under fire for another problem with live broadcasts — copyright infringement. The Premier League is reportedly threatening legal action against the site over unauthorized broadcasts of soccer games. Justin.tv, which is a free service, has maintained it complies with takedown requests according to the law — but with live broadcasts, the key event often ends before lawyers can get involved. Or in Biggs’ case, before people who care about him could get through.

Rockin' Cherub
11-21-2008, 05:13 AM
tinwovideo

yo soy el mejor
11-21-2008, 10:34 AM
bodybuildingforums? i think alex posts there. i hope he wasnt one of the jerkoffs egging that poor guy on.

ergh that's really sad.

Mo
11-21-2008, 10:38 AM
^ You know he was.

waltermcphilp
11-21-2008, 10:45 AM
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Floppy Nono
11-21-2008, 11:02 AM
bodybuildingforums? i think alex posts there. i hope he wasnt one of the jerkoffs egging that poor guy on.

ergh that's really sad.

interesting...

i mean, i feel bad for the guy and all but anyone who commits suicide just because people are all DO IT DO IT DO IT is kind of :erm: .

aTHyQn
11-21-2008, 12:02 PM
no, i only saw the thread about the thread that was deleted already. if i had seen something like that i definitely would have been trying to talk him out of it. we can't be burying no more of our babies. i feel like i could have saved his life if i had just been boarding a little more actively

duovamp
11-21-2008, 12:08 PM
This is old news, but here's the video: CandyJunkie Vid - LiveVideo.com (http://www.livevideo.com/video/F29B145FA9F149DA8DEB6469B297D9D2/candyjunkie-vid.aspx)

Floppy Nono
11-21-2008, 12:15 PM
i wonder how many times "show your feet" was uttered in that chat before someone realized the guy might be dead

tcm
11-21-2008, 02:01 PM
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R.I.P.

LaBelle
11-21-2008, 04:18 PM
Damn, that is very sad...

and very disturbing that people were really rooting for it.

duovamp
11-21-2008, 04:25 PM
I don't really have problem with people voluntarily leaving this world. I mean if man has one incontestable right it's certainly the right over his own life. Sucks that he felt bad enough to end his life and I feel bad for his family and friends, but it was his decision and I respect it.

threetwooneZERO
12-02-2008, 04:22 PM
HTH, I'm sorry.

ChaosEffect
12-02-2008, 08:17 PM
^ You know he was.

Actually that guy went to my school.

D.
12-02-2008, 08:39 PM
This is old news, but here's the video: CandyJunkie Vid - LiveVideo.com (http://www.livevideo.com/video/F29B145FA9F149DA8DEB6469B297D9D2/candyjunkie-vid.aspx)

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