what is your fav BC related thing you enjoyed the most as a fan since SP "broke up"?

could be just a song, an era, a gig, a CD, a release of some other sort, anything really.
(eg. gossamer, 4 piece zwan, acoustic TFE gig, zeitgeist, etc.)

without a doubt, this:

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last years leaks was pretty sweet.
qaos
adore II
spun.

i was a child in a candy store.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NHK5YQ8QL._SS500_.jpg

seriously, tho...probably SP playing Starla again. It's amazing when bands bust out fan-favorite b-sides.

Basically... the fact that I heard news of them getting back together not long after I became a huge fan was the best thing.

Attending my first SP show in 2007: the Myspace secret show, with a festival show in a bull-fighting arena the very next day.

And a song: Stellar.

The best thing billy has done in the past 7 years is probably the Zwan Paris Acoustic Show, period. The best thing to happen to SP since they have been back together has probably been Jeff "Shredder." I honestly don't know how involved he is in writing, but the reworkings of GaTGC, Shame, BSBT, Home, LMGTWTY, HMM etc. have all been excellent, and if that is due to Jeff's writing then props to him.

The Grand Rex Show, front row :)

Seeing SP for the first time in 07. And everytime after that.

Jeff "Shredder." I honestly don't know how involved he is in writing, but the reworkings of... ...LMGTWTY

VAAAAAHHHHT!?

for me it was listening to the 2001.11.16 zwan show as it was being upped to the nspaa early the next morning.

hearing glorious, the beatles cover, so i died, etc. within hours of their performance was awesome.

i think "Pox" (and generally American Gothic) would be #1. I really, like really enjoy that tune. One of my all-time Pumpkins favourites.
Plus, of course, my first SP gig in Berlin last year.

Seeing Hummer/Rocket live

The Brussels boot was amazing. Some really awesome setlists from Asheville.

Some old school classics finally seeing the light of day (Set the Ray to Jerry)

The new songs (Sunkissed, owata, ARB, song for son) are really good.

Seeing Hummer/Mayonaise/Porcelina/Drown live was VERY good.

Other than that, it was a highly "just the hits" show.

wow. that is a beautiful sun outfit. :) when did he wear his sun dress?

my favs ******* this past show 11/7 and the solo concert

Bit 5
Gossamer

also I really like DIA

All of Billy's B-side songs pretty much.

JCC

Seeing the pumpkins live 2 times at the end of the August tour and seeing one of my favorite songs(speed kills) live.

Acoustic versions of both Drown and Rocket from the Asheville residencies.
oh, and American Gothic, good stuff there.

Djali Zwan, and earlier stuff such as "Chrysanthemum" and "Never Give Up".

The Lord has spoken to thee!

Djali Zwan
Chicago & non-Chicago acoustic songs

That was wonderful music! I miss it. And I think it's the right way for Billy to develop as musician.

for me it was listening to the 2001.11.16 zwan show as it was being upped to the nspaa early the next morning.

hearing glorious, the beatles cover, so i died, etc. within hours of their performance was awesome.

this. playing cast a stone over and over again.

last years leaks was pretty sweet.
qaos
adore II
spun.

i was a child in a candy store.

this

qaos
adore II
spun.

i never bothered getting these at the time, i wasn't around here much

someone up them or point me to them anywhere apart from the hub, im lazy

Grand Rex for me too. Surreal.

earlier stuff such as "Chrysanthemum" and "Never Give Up".playing cast a stone over and over again.

:banging:

man the 4 piece zwan era was the shit.

girl with the cruel face 12-14-01

someone up them or point me to them anywhere apart from the hub, im lazy
R S P A A : the Reborn Smashing Pumpkins Audio Archive (http://www.rspaa.org/rspaa/Demos/)

My favourite thing was indeed them getting back together and releasing new music... I started to like the band when they were not around... so for me all the new stuff has been very interesting, and i'm happy to see Billy getting on stage and moving forward with the SP.

Spun, Stellar, live show, TFE. (yes, TFE, i like it)

oh, also Death From Above and P&C. and Ma Belle. And the live version of the Rose March.

Four piece Zwan, Chicago songs, Residency era stuff

the continuing saga of superchrist.

The new version of Translucent. I'm really happy that they included it in the new DVD.
Chrysanthemum.
United States.
Hummer, Soma, Starla, Galapagos, live.
There are a lot of things they've really done well over the past year and a half.

Oh I forgot No Surrender and Gossamer.

R S P A A : the Reborn Smashing Pumpkins Audio Archive (http://www.rspaa.org/rspaa/Demos/)

Do you have a link to Spun as well?

Spun Soundtrack (http://www.thepumpkins.net/content/view/644/47/)

Do you have a link to Spun as well?

ThePumpkins.net - Music - Zwan - Spun Soundtrack (http://www.thepumpkins.net/content/view/644/47/)

- Billy's lighting setup at the TFE tour (and the tour in general... it was really fun)
- The new version of "Shame" that they played on the reunion tour
- Pox, Ma Belle, TTW, and of course the new songs
- Acoustic Rocket and acoustic For God and Country
- Seeing The Pumpkins in Austria at Nova Rock with 150,000 people... and being 30 feet from Billy :)

- The new version of "Shame" that they played on the reunion tour
Yes.
everything else
No.

No.


Umm. Okay? :erm:

And really... you don't like Song for a Son, Owata, ARB? REALLY?

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In no particular order:


-The excitement and mystery over who "Skullfisher" was. This includes how so many people assumed that it was James, even after the Glass House show, since Pajo had his head down in the dark the whole time.

-TheFutureEmbrace album and tour. Despite it being a flop, I really liked a lot of the compositions and approaches. Now and Then is such an underrated song. And as far as the tour went, the huge light wall with the reflective white floor, and his outfit that looked reasonably normal was pretty cool.

-Billy dusting off Hummer. And, instead of rearranging it, he acknowledged that it was perfect as-is, and played it as such.

-The rearrangement of Shame. While I love the album version, and while Adore is my favorite album, the rearrangement of Shame was just so, so good. It reminded me of his skills back in the 90's when he'd take a song like Dreaming, Dancing in the Moonlight or Clones, and make it actually sound brilliant via a rearrangement. I know the setlists for this tour aren't going to change, but if he brought the new Shame back, it would be very well-received by me.

-Watching the Pumpkins play United States at Rock Am Ring via the webcast. Right before it gets to the breakdown at the end, the crowd is chanting in unison like Billy is their god, and he's staring at them like they're right. It's a pretty powerful moment, I think.



And my least favorite moments:


-Zwan, in general. It was like what I would imagine watching your parents fight over some secret affair to be or something. It left an uncomfortable taste in my mouth. And then you find out later on, after it's over, that it was much more abusive than you'd ever have imagined. So the whole era was just disgusting to me.

-The commercialism of Zeitgeist. It was really hard to justify to my friends why a dozen "versions" of Zeitgeist on the shelf at Best Buy had any integrity. Yellow. Red. Orange. Blue. Silver. Green. It really stomped on Billy's attempts to explain that he was "back for the music, not the money." And releasing the ad in the Tribune about the Pumpkins being revived... on the same day TheFutureEmbrace was released... yeah, that didn't go well, either.

-The James-bashing in his blogs. Not because I'm a huge fan of James or anything. I mean, I like James. And I do wish it could have worked out to have him be reunited with Billy and Jimmy. But there has always been something... fishy... about how one-sided Billy's continuously changing versions of the "truth" are. It would be cool if James could at least provide his perspective on things, too. But instead, it's been the Billy Show for quite some time, now.

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-TheFutureEmbrace album and tour. Despite it being a flop, I really liked a lot of the compositions and approaches. Now and Then is such an underrated song. And as far as the tour went, the huge light wall with the reflective white floor, and his outfit that looked reasonably normal was pretty cool.




Now and Then really IS underrated. Love it, and I really like All Things Change as well.

And yeah the lighting wall and the keyboard / drum stands were super tight.

Danke, rolmos and Dawncat.

Seeing Drown and Hummer back to fucking back.


Residency Songs.

chicago songs
zwan: everything except MSOTS
TFE: the attitude and experimentalism of the album. the TFE tour rocked!

Mini
You Were Mine
White City
Whisper
Lost in the Woods

Adore demos 2, especially Satellites

MSOTS (the song)
A new Poetry

The extended spacey solo Billy played live on To Love Somebody

Stellar
Ma Belle

The current arrangement of Speed Kills and the re-worked Shame.

The new high-energy version of LMGTWTY

The 2nd night of the NYC United Palace Theatre show (best show I've ever seen)

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Now and Then is such an underrated song.

Yes! I rarely hear anyone bring this song up, I adore it. This song along with Mina Loy make owning TFE worth it for me.

Seeing them in concert in 07 and 08 was amazing too. I really never thought I would hear Pumpkins songs played live again.

JCC hands down.

The Spun material was terrific as well.

Sp2 --> Gossamer and yes, the psychedelic free noise jamming in set the controls.

and did i miss something? where in the new DVD is translucent?

Pumpkins shows being uploaded to http://www.archive.org for everyone to download at high bandwidth.

Gossamer. FUCKING GOSSAMER. Stellar too.

translucent is the menu music

also, Glorious and Matt Walker playing drums standing up during TFE tour.

DIA, new SHAME is killer, and i guess the rose march or if all goes wrong, and stellar

i forgot how fucking good Mini is

without a doubt, this:

<img src=http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/1/4/3/0/24160341-24160343-large.jpg>

wait a second. what is this picture from?

Satellites

MSOTS (the song)
A new Poetry

Stellar

the re-worked Shame.

indeed

Glass House show
Honestly
TheFutureEmbrace (really)
United States first youtube video
No Surrender

That's probably all.

walking shade

and yeh, probably hearing starla live

12.14.01

Billy singing happy birthday to me....and the entire show.

If I had to choose one, would be:
- The news about Smashing Pumpkins are comming back!!!

Other really good things:
- Owata.
- Whole Zwan era, it is a shame they had disappeared so fast as they appeared...I miss more from them.
- The back of Muzzle to the shows.
- If Adore II counts, well... Sattelites and Without You are a must for me.
-Starting to love this songs after listen to this versions (I really didnt like them before!):
- United States and Superchrist NY versions.
- Glass and The Ghost Children 07 version.
- To Sheila 07 version.


girl with the cruel face 12-14-01
What is this? Im curious now!

the continuing saga of superchrist.
Man, you must listen to NY version!


Adore demos 2, especially Satellites

This song is something....

Pumpkins shows being uploaded to http://www.archive.org for everyone to download at high bandwidth.
This had been AWESOME... and easy!

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note1: Im suprised, thought just me and skipgo liked TFE lolz
note2: Plz someone show this thread to Billy. It is positive actually ^^

Man, you must listen to NY version!

i have! :cheers: it seems to get furiouser and furiouser with each performance.

If I had to choose one, would be:
- The news about Smashing Pumpkins are comming back!!!

Other really good things:
- Owata.
- Whole Zwan era, it is a shame they had disappeared so fast as they appeared...I miss more from them.
- The back of Muzzle to the shows.
- If Adore II counts, well... Sattelites and Without You are a must for me.
-Starting to love this songs after listen to this versions (I really didnt like them before!):
- United States and Superchrist NY versions.
- Glass and The Ghost Children 07 version.
- To Sheila 07 version.



What is this? Im curious now!


Man, you must listen to NY version!


This song is something....


This had been AWESOME... and easy!

.....
note1: Im suprised, thought just me and skipgo liked TFE lolz
note2: Plz someone show this thread to Billy. It is positive actually ^^

A100 was excellent... that was about it

Gossamer (I've been listening to the 7/16/07 pretty much on repeat in the car. Is there a better one from 07? If so, I haven't heard it.)

TheCameraEye

Of A Broken Heart

The acoustic part of the last Philly 07 show was pretty cool.

Djalhaiji Zwan show in Grand Rapids

Listening to TaranTula for the 1st time last year.

99 floors
mary star of the sea
cameraeye
a100
dia
death from above live/studio
winterlong live
hummer live
gossamer
sunkissed
seeing the pumpkins in the front row in pittsburgh

This thread.

Its so cheery, ain't it?

Any minute now someone's going to derail it with a pic of Billy's Balls hanging out of the skirt, then talk about how much they hate the new tour.

Any minute now...

Can we just reiterate how much Gossamer FUCKING ROCKS?

ANYONE?!

i loved zwan, but all the anticipation that lead up to zeitgeist and the tour was great.

and finding a good version of machina II

Spun songs
Chicago songs
Zwan's Riverview radio performance
Jeff smashing his guitar
Hideout recordings (especially The Girl with the Cruel Face)
early Zwan (2001)
Zeitgeist b-sides
Gossamer
DIA
Sunkissed
Live Music Archive
If All Goes Wrong DVD
The Beginning is the End is the Beginning, Translucent, Shame, and Speed Kills being played.
Jimmy Chamberlin Complex
TheFutureEmbrace acoustic show
Mini
You Were Mine
Whisper
Residency songs
Mary Star of the Sea (the song)
Spilled Milk
Lost in the Woods demo
Satellite/Jersey Shore/Without You

- Severin took me to the very last Zwan show ever, which was an extraordinary experience.
- The first time I listened to the Paris show boot and the leaked version of Tarantula. Man, the excitement...
- Watching SP2 live on MTV during their Rock am Ring gig.
- Listening to Zeitgeist for the first time and not being disappointed.
- SP2 opening with Porcelina at their Vienna gig in January.

- hearing mayonaise live (brought actual tears to my eyes)
- my hamburg/berlin/milan roadtrip to see zwan on their first euro-tour
- bleeding the orchid, the only song on zeitgeist where i actually got the feeling billy was singing like he really, really enjoyed himself
- spun soundtrack
- last show fuck you on the greatest hits dvd

This thread is all Lovephoria

- acoustic God and Country

p.s. does anyone have the Chicago songs? are these readily available anywhere or am out of the loop?