can you guys tell me how do you think you will do it when you get old - where you will get money from, and how do you see your future in general? I was just looking at some EUROSTAT forcasts. It doesn't look good at all - it is outright scary.

The numbers are the percentage share of population above age of 65 . The first number is 2008, the second one is 2060.

Poland 13,5 36,2
Slovakia 12,0 36,1
Romania 14,9 35,0
Lithuania 15,8 34,7
Latvia 17,3 34,4
Bulgaria 17,3 34,2
Slovenia 16,1 33,4
Czech Rep. 14,6 33,4
Italy 20,1 32,7
Germany 20,1 32,5
Malta 13,8 32,4
Spain 16,6 32,3
Hungary 16,2 31,9
Greece 18,6 31,7
Portugal 17,4 30,9
Estonia 17,2 30,7
Average EU27 17,1 30,0
Austria 17,2 29,0
Switzerland 16,4 28,0
Finland 16,5 27,8
Netherlands 14,7 27,3
Sweden 17,5 26,6
Belgium 17 26,5
Cyprus 12,4 26,2
France 16,5 25,9
Norway 14,6 25,4
Ireland 11,2 25,2
Denmark 15,6 25,0
Great Britain 16,1 24,7
Luxembourg 14,2 23,6

Let's all commit suicide when we hit 40!

No seriously - what do you think you are going to do? I mean can you imagine the general tension in a society like that?

I mean no disrespect when i say ill pay economic migrants to wipe my ass.

in all seriousness: i think people should not be so much aversed to working longer, say until 67. Heaploads of people leaving work already before their 60ies.

That's why I'm all for forced-smoking laws and higher tobacco taxes - that would weed out the weak and old people and feed our budget. :noway:

I'm going to move to Luxemburg.

in all seriousness: i think people should not be so much aversed to working longer, say until 67. Heaploads of people leaving work already before their 60ies.I am not against that. But how do you feel about yourself sponsoring someone else's retirement money all your working life when you alone wouldn't see anything at all in the end?

I am not averse to that.

Oh not so humble when it's you on the recieving end.

I am not averse to that.I think I have caught Monte's disease.

Ok so you are humble carry on.

We're already moving towards private retirement funds. No more national pension here.

i'm already paying for my pension every month.

it's not really fair that i have to pay for my own pension and for the one of the people who are old now, but whadyagonnado?

work as we know it will cease to exist. robots anyone?

Chinese workers will fill the gap!

didn't i just say that