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waltermcphilp
08-19-2008, 09:49 AM
Article is a few days old, could very well be a thread but a quick search came up with nothing.


This month's most shocking and surprising news arrived just yesterday: Warner Brothers announced that they were pushing back the release of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince from November 21st, 2008 to July 17th, 2009, a full 8 months later. Release date changes are always expected in Hollywood, especially when films encounter production troubles or other snags, but the reaction to this date change has been tremendous, and not in a good way. In fact, the reaction has been incredibly negative, with fans lashing out in anger and calling for boycotts and petitions. Even I was taken aback by the news, but I never expected the fans to be so angry at a change that in theory was supposed to be for the betterment of the movie. Could a fan backlash this negative actually cause Warner Brothers to rescind the date change?

http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/08/15/harry-potter-delay-evokes-angry-outbursts-amongst-fans/


i'm not the biggest fan of 'arry potter but i was kinda looking forward to seeing the new movie.

???
08-19-2008, 09:57 AM
fans lashing out in anger and calling for boycotts and petitions[/I]


thats fucking ridiculous

JokeyLoki
08-19-2008, 10:19 AM
Did they say why it was getting delayed?

waltermcphilp
08-19-2008, 10:26 AM
from what i understand they are delaying it because the studio wants it to be a hit and are afraid the dark knight will take away from its earnings.

Elvis The Fat Years
08-19-2008, 10:30 AM
what? the dark knight came out a month ago.

waltermcphilp
08-19-2008, 10:33 AM
BUT ITS THE BIGGEST MOVIE EVER!!!11oneone

waltermcphilp
08-19-2008, 10:38 AM
Warner Brothers said yesterday that by holding off for a summer release the film had a better chance of being a major box office hit.

In a statement, it said production of both Half-Blood Prince and the next film in the series, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, was still on schedule, adding that the repercussions of the writers' strike in the US was also a factor.


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Warner Brothers president Alan Horn said: "We agreed the best strategy was to move Half-Blood Prince to July, where it perfectly fills the gap for a major tent pole release for mid-summer."

hnibos
08-19-2008, 10:42 AM
i get the feeling a harry potter movie would be a big hit even if it were released in january and only in alaska.

Elvis The Fat Years
08-19-2008, 11:03 AM
ahh, yes. the ol' tent pole release.

JokeyLoki
08-19-2008, 11:14 AM
That's fucking stupid.

Elvis The Fat Years
08-19-2008, 11:18 AM
whatever, bitch.

people who hate tent poles are no friends of mine.

waltermcphilp
08-19-2008, 11:25 AM
Reader Feedback - 145 Comments Ľ

when i read the first article of HP6 being released in july i was pissed off but thought it would subside and it wouldn't make a difference for me. Needless to say, I was wrong. I stayed pissed about it and wondered which dumb-ass fuck up at WB really decided to move it for marketing ( if that is in fact the real case ). Now reading this second article has gotten my hopes up that if it's because of marketing HP was moved, maybe a fan outburst would do the trick to bring it back to it's Nov. release.

the point - hopefully this will get such bad press that they will be forced to move it back to november. If so not only will it be amazing that fans actually had an impact on the film's release date but i'll be one very happy HP fan and reader.

Corey B. on Aug 15, 2008

exactlythesame
08-19-2008, 11:54 AM
i hope this gets tons of bad press

AndySlash
08-19-2008, 11:56 AM
Did they say why it was getting delayed?

Warners is making no bones about it that it's purely a $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ move, which I'm pretty sure is why so many people are fucking pissed. They don't even try to hide that fact that it's purely a cash grab.



Alan Horn:

"Our reasons for shifting 'Half-Blood Prince' to summer are twofold: we know the summer season is an ideal window for a family tent pole release, as proven by the success of our last Harry Potter film, which is the second-highest grossing film in the franchise, behind only the first installment. Additionally, like every other studio, we are still feeling the repercussions of the writers' strike, which impacted the readiness of scripts for other films--changing the competitive landscape for 2009 and offering new windows of opportunity that we wanted to take advantage of. We agreed the best strategy was to move 'Half-Blood Prince' to July, where it perfectly fills the gap for a major tent pole release for mid-summer."

"The release date change does not alter the production schedule for this or future Harry Potter films. Post-production on 'Half-Blood Prince' was completed on time, and the studio's release plans for the two-part 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows' will not be affected by this change. We know Harry Potter fans are eagerly anticipating seeing the final chapters unfold onscreen. In fact, the good news for them is that the gap will now be shortened between 'Half-Blood Prince' and the first part of 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.'"


Later on, he just outright said

"The picture is completely, absolutely, 100 percent on schedule, on time. There were no delays. I've seen the movie. It is fabulous. We would have been perfectly able to have it out in November."

"We would never do anything to hurt one of the movies or the series. We love our fans."



Production delays and that kind of thing would be understandable. I am completely flabbergasted that a studio head would be so blatant with their intentions. Surely he couldn't be that clueless that people would be pissed off and that this would be a PR nightmare? Did they not have any indication less than a month ago when the teaser trailer was put in front of the Dark Knight that this might be happening? Unbelievable.

waltermcphilp
08-19-2008, 12:01 PM
Harry Potter and the Search for More Money

Eulogy
08-19-2008, 12:05 PM
isn't harry potter the type of franchise that will pull in about the same amount of money regardless of when it's released?

JokeyLoki
08-19-2008, 12:11 PM
whatever, bitch.

people who hate tent poles are no friends of mine.

Oh, I wasn't talking about you, I should have quoted. :blush:

isn't harry potter the type of franchise that will pull in about the same amount of money regardless of when it's released?

Exactly.

Thaniel Buckner
08-19-2008, 12:15 PM
tent pole release.

you can release my tent pole any day, cheez.

redbreegull
08-19-2008, 01:26 PM
This is pretty outrageous and I honestly don't blame the hardcore fans from going crazy over this. I also hope WB gets shitloads of bad press over this.

topleybird
08-19-2008, 01:29 PM
Surely he couldn't be that clueless that people would be pissed off and that this would be a PR nightmare?

It's a little strange you're so flabbergasted about all this

This is the same studio that is splitting the final book into two films, specifically and solely to make more money off it

Was there fan outrage and transparently halfhearted calls for boycotts when that was announced

WB hasn't had a huge success in years and of course they're going to leverage their single profitable franchise as much as possible

Especially since, as he outright admits, they don't have any big summer movies for 2009 because of the strike

This is neither the first nor the last movie that will move to summer '09 just to fill the void

Please refer to Star Trek for starters

JokeyLoki
08-19-2008, 01:36 PM
This is the same studio that is splitting the final book into two films, specifically and solely to make more money off it

Was there fan outrage and transparently halfhearted calls for boycotts when that was announced

No, you did see how long that book was, right? There's too much material for one movie. Splitting it into two movies is a good thing, regardless of their reasons for it.

redbreegull
08-19-2008, 01:39 PM
No, you did see how long that book was, right? There's too much material for one movie. Splitting it into two movies is a good thing, regardless of their reasons for it.

That is ridiculous considering the fifth book was by FAR the densest and most worthy of two movies. The seventh book felt like empty space. It was definitely Rowling's Machina.

topleybird
08-19-2008, 01:40 PM
No, you did see how long that book was, right? There's too much material for one movie. Splitting it into two movies is a good thing, regardless of their reasons for it.




Not sure you're getting my point

Or the idea of an adaptation, or even how the other books were adapted

Nimrod's Son
08-19-2008, 01:46 PM
fans lashing out in anger and calling for boycotts and petitions

I hope they protest and a meteorite kills the lot of them. Get lives, people.

wHATcOLOR
08-19-2008, 01:48 PM
if the studio has good reason to believe that changing the release date will bring in significantly more money, it would be entirely irresponsible of them not to change the release date. that's their priority, maximize their profit. the management and board are held responsible for the amount of money they bring in, not how quickly they can appease fanboys.

fans can wah wah wah all they want about a boycott, but if they're getting this fired up about a change in date, it's because they really want to see the film. they'll see it whenever it's released, whining or not.

GlasgowKiss
08-19-2008, 01:52 PM
Unless someone leaks a good quality copy of it. Watch some spy movies, potter fans.

AndySlash
08-19-2008, 02:25 PM
It's a little strange you're so flabbergasted about all this

Maybe I should have clarified more for you- I'm surprised they are being so blatant about their reasoning and not making up excuses so as to make them not look like money grubbing asshats. I'm not at all surprised they moved it back for a cash grab.


This is the same studio that is splitting the final book into two films, specifically and solely to make more money off it

They should have done that two movies ago. And it certainly was NOT the sole reasoning. *A* reason, yes. *THE* reason, no.


Was there fan outrage and transparently halfhearted calls for boycotts when that was announced

No, because many fans think that they should have done that at least two movies ago.


WB hasn't had a huge success in years and of course they're going to leverage their single profitable franchise as much as possible

Uh, have you heard of those Batman movies?

Nimrod's Son
08-19-2008, 02:34 PM
You know those losers are going to be lining up in their robes and 45 year old women will be pretending to be 12 year old boys playing a made up flying game no matter when its released

ravenguy2000
08-19-2008, 02:39 PM
all of these movies suck

JokeyLoki
08-19-2008, 02:42 PM
Not sure you're getting my point

Or the idea of an adaptation, or even how the other books were adapted

God you're a fucking pretentious idiot.

I get that books are adapted for movies. I was just saying that, personally, I'm glad they split it, because it'll make more room for more material, and there are many fans who feel the same way, <I>regardless of WB's actual intent</i>.

I get your point, I'm just saying that that's the reason why fans didn't make a bigger deal about the movie being split.

JokeyLoki
08-19-2008, 02:43 PM
They should have done that two movies ago.

YES

topleybird
08-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Uh, have you heard of those Batman movies?

I should really slow down and think sometimes

Okay, other than the Batman movies

Jokeyloki I am clearly occasionally an idiot, but I take umbrage at being called fucking pretentious

I am not saying I disagree, just that I take umbrage

JokeyLoki
08-19-2008, 03:17 PM
I take umbrage

http://www.mugglenet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_umbridge~2.jpg

(Yes, I know it's spelled different)

Rider
08-19-2008, 03:47 PM
I should really slow down and think sometimes

Okay, other than the Batman movies

Jokeyloki I am clearly occasionally an idiot, but I take umbrage at being called fucking pretentious

I am not saying I disagree, just that I take umbrage

http://www.hollywood.com/news/Showbiz_Stock_Watch_Warner_Bros_Is_the_Favorite_in _the_2008_Market_Share/5294354

Yeah they are only going to have #1 box office receipts this year.

aurel
08-19-2008, 05:05 PM
I am hemmoraging umbrage at the thought of Jokeyloki calling topleybird a pretentious idiot.

agenda suicide
08-19-2008, 05:07 PM
they've also since then said that another reason for the date change is because Daniel Radcliffe will be playing in Equus around the same time of the original release. Supposedly they don't want this tarnishing Harry Potters image since he's virginal and wonderful.

I think it's all a bunch of bullshit, and I'm pretty irked about it.

neopryn
08-19-2008, 05:31 PM
Jokeyloki your rep was supposed to say "i will not allow you tot talk to topleyboird like thaTR"

JokeyLoki
08-19-2008, 06:51 PM
Jokeyloki your rep was supposed to say "i will not allow you tot talk to topleyboird like thaTR"

Aah, ok.

aurel, wtf does "Maximium homosapien conference in your haha hole." mean?

Shallowed
08-19-2008, 08:28 PM
isn't harry potter the type of franchise that will pull in about the same amount of money regardless of when it's released?

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

fluxequalsrad
08-19-2008, 08:44 PM
Harry's gonna give it to Hermoine...yeah...shes gonna get it.

Nimrod's Son
08-19-2008, 09:09 PM
WB hasn't had a huge success in years and of course they're going to leverage their single profitable franchise as much as possible


yeah it's been a long time since WB had a big hit
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_(film))

neopryn
08-19-2008, 10:23 PM
timely post Nimrod

noyen
08-19-2008, 10:24 PM
SHAVED YOUNG STUDS

maoi
08-20-2008, 12:00 AM
<img src="http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/02_02/EquusRadcliffe_468x577.jpg">

cork_soaker
08-20-2008, 12:08 AM
GORILLAS IN THE MIST!!! YARRR!!!

waltermcphilp
08-20-2008, 12:17 AM
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8021/equusradcliffe468x577dg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Shallowed
08-20-2008, 03:52 AM
Harry's gonna give it to Hermoine...yeah...shes gonna get it.

No, that's the ginger that gets with Hermione.

Emma Watson is fucking HOT. :eek:

TuralyonW3
08-20-2008, 04:16 AM
http://www.celeb-porn.info/emma-watson-pussy-01.jpg

Shallowed
08-20-2008, 04:23 AM
Ok, maybe not.

murgle
08-20-2008, 05:55 AM
Yeah, this is ridiculous.

I think it would've been a good idea to split the 5th book into 2 movies. LOT of information there that should've been included. However, it is absolutely essential that the 7th book is split into 2 movies. There is entirely too much backstory (that is necessary, for the most part) that must be there. Yeah, I like the harry potter books, fuck off.

Also, like A/, I was incredibly surprised at how fucking honest the studio head was being. I can understand if they were delaying the release for production/editing/filming/etc problems. (not 8 months delay, but I digress) However, saying, "er.. well.. we're delaying this until summer 2009 because the writer's strike fucked our shit up and we've got no big blockbusters to come out in the summer blockbuster season. also- we swear that MORE DEVOTED FANS can see harry potter... as summer releases always do better!!!"

which, by the way, is a load of crap- Prisoner of Azkaban was released in the summer and was the lowest grossing Potter film of the entire series.

Shallowed
08-21-2008, 04:55 AM
I wonder where the first part will end?

Also, I find it strange that PoA is the lowest grossing HP film, that one was my favourite.

murgle
08-21-2008, 06:09 AM
I've heard a bit of speculation that the first part will end when Ron returns to Harry and Hermione.

I didn't like Prisoner of Azkaban the best when I first saw it, but I quite like it now.

Nimrod's Son
08-21-2008, 12:38 PM
Paramount did exactly the same thing with the Star Trek movie, and you'd think with the legions of Trek nerds out there that they'd be up in arms.... but they're not. Potter geeks have overtaken Trek nerds as even more geeky and out of touch with reality. Congratulations.

threetwooneZERO
08-21-2008, 12:45 PM
Nimmy you are bad ass.

agenda suicide
08-21-2008, 01:56 PM
Yeah, this is ridiculous.

I think it would've been a good idea to split the 5th book into 2 movies. LOT of information there that should've been included. However, it is absolutely essential that the 7th book is split into 2 movies. There is entirely too much backstory (that is necessary, for the most part) that must be there. Yeah, I like the harry potter books, fuck off.
regardless of how essential it is, you know they're just doing it to make more money because they're running out of movies to make. if they actually gave a shit about staying true to the book and not cutting out important backstory and sidestories that tie in, they would have done this long ago. they don't give a shit about anything but money.
I love the books, but the way I see the movies is you just have to take them for what they are and deal with it.

murgle
08-21-2008, 02:31 PM
Potter geeks have overtaken Trek nerds as even more geeky and out of touch with reality. Congratulations.

Seriously? It's out of touch with reality to be pissed that something they were looking forward to got delayed 8 months?

I don't think that's insane or weird or geeky at all. People who like the Harry Potter books/movies/franchise/whatever are looking forward to the next movies in the series. It really sucks when something was promised, then yanked away.

Granted, I think that it's delusional (of fans and NON-fans, because the talk is coming from both camps) to think that WB will change the release date back to the original November one just because of fan outrage. Even though it might be pointless to try to campaign for the release date to be changed back, I can see why people are clinging to the idea.

agenda suicide
08-21-2008, 03:06 PM
<i>Late last week Warner Bros. announced it was bumping Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince off its Fall 08 release date, and moving it to Summer 09. Fan reaction so far has been, well, what can only be described as a release date hissy fit.

Potterphiles across the internet are on message boards bubbling with anger and resentment. Useless petitions have been started, including one with nearly 40,000 signatures here. Some are even taking their outrage into the real world, planning, believe it or not, pickets outside Warner Bros. studios. From the reaction, youíd think Warner Bros. called someone a retard.

In an attempt to calm down the wand waving masses, Warner Bros. has sent out a statement from the studioís president Alan Horn, appealing to fans for some semblance of sanity. Hereís what Horn has to say:

<b>
Many of you have written to me to express your disappointment in our moving "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" to Summer 2009.

Please be assured that we share your love for Harry Potter and would certainly never do anything to hurt any of the films. Over the past 10 years, we have nurtured and protected each film, and the integrity of the books upon which they are based, to the best of our ability.

The decision to move "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" was not taken lightly, and was never intended to upset our Harry Potter fans. We know you have built this series into what it is, and we thank you for your ongoing enthusiasm and support.

If I may offer a silver lining: there would have been a two-year gap between "Half-Blood Prince" and the much-anticipated first part of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," which opens in November 2010.

So although we have to wait a little longer for "Half-Blood Prince," the wait from that film until "Deathly Hallows" will be less than 18 months. I am sorry to have disappointed you now, but if you hold on a little longer, I believe it will be worth the wait.

Alan Horn
President, Chief Operating Officer
Warner Bros.</b>


Look, thereís no doubt that the WBís move was motivated entirely by selfish greed. Thereís been a lot of talk lately over their shortage of tentpole releases for next summer, and obviously the Potter shift was a move to cure that. And yes, itís kind of annoying. Aside from the fact that it means waiting nearly half a year to see the movie, Harry Potter has always seemed like it fits best in the fall. Harry Potter movies should never be watched wearing shorts, and so far the franchiseís box office has reflected that. The seriesí fall releases have made more money than its summer ones.

So I get it, if youíre a Harry Potter fan itís an annoying move. It's a jerk move. It's not the first jerk move like this a studio has pulled either. Paramount has done much the same thing to Trek fans, and you don't see them out there taking days off work to wave around picket signs in the Klingon language. After all, you may want those days off to wait in line or practice your broom riding, whenever the movie finally is released.

It's frustrating, it's disappointing, but itís not the end of the world. It just means waiting a few more months. Itís going to be Oscar season soon, and there's plenty of other movies out there for you to see. I hear this Twilight thing is the next Harry Potter. Why not give that a shot? Or stay home and nash your teeth. Either way, you know youíll be there next summer, in your short-shorts, watching Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Warner Bros. knows it to. Forget the fan protests, the studio has no reason to listen. The Muggles win. Be thankful you're not a Watchmen fan, those poor sots may never even get to see their film, and they've already been waiting a lot longer than you.</i>

Rider
08-21-2008, 03:12 PM
Yep nothing else going on in the world right, the only thing to protest is that a bad movie will be delayed by 8 months. Yep no wars, or civil liberties being stripped away. I mean sure they are stopping random people in London and searching without cause, oh and they can just take away your laptop for no reason now at US airports. But come on this is Harry Potter, it's important.

Caine Walker
08-21-2008, 03:23 PM
wait, wait, wait. have they really been making harry potter films for ten years?

Rider
08-21-2008, 03:47 PM
wait, wait, wait. have they really been making harry potter films for ten years?

More like 8, The first one came when i first moved to Florida.

agenda suicide
08-21-2008, 04:11 PM
first one came out in 2001. I'm sure they're talking about from the time they first were in the works of bringing HP to the screen.

Nimrod's Son
08-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Seriously? It's out of touch with reality to be pissed that something they were looking forward to got delayed 8 months?

I don't think that's insane or weird or geeky at all. People who like the Harry Potter books/movies/franchise/whatever are looking forward to the next movies in the series. It really sucks when something was promised, then yanked away.

You probably don't think it's weird because you're one of them. Grown men and women are going to protest because a movie they wish to see starring children will be coming out six months later? And you think there's nothing wrong with this, and this is normal behavior? I can understand a "damn, well that sucks we have to wait" and then moving on with their fucking lives, but protests? With all the shit we have in the world going on right now, people are most upset about Harry fucking Potter?

Caine Walker
08-21-2008, 05:26 PM
With all the shit we have in the world going on right now, people are most upset about Harry fucking Potter?

are you really that shocked? i mean, come on.

JokeyLoki
08-21-2008, 06:29 PM
I'm not terribly angry about this, only slightly perturbed, but I don't get why you think people that would be upset at a movie wouldn't be upset about other things... it's not like you can only be upset about 1 thing at a time.

I hate that argument.

wHATcOLOR
08-21-2008, 06:34 PM
howie poddewr is made out of sand

murgle
08-21-2008, 08:47 PM
You probably don't think it's weird because you're one of them. Grown men and women are going to protest because a movie they wish to see starring children will be coming out six months later? And you think there's nothing wrong with this, and this is normal behavior? I can understand a "damn, well that sucks we have to wait" and then moving on with their fucking lives, but protests? With all the shit we have in the world going on right now, people are most upset about Harry fucking Potter?


You left out the part of my quote where I said:


Granted, I think that it's delusional (of fans and NON-fans, because the talk is coming from both camps) to think that WB will change the release date back to the original November one just because of fan outrage.

I completely agree that it's dumb that people are outside protesting and boycotting (they're going to see the movie anyway. Duh.). It's going to make no difference whether they protest.

I'm quite disappointed that the studio moved the film. I'd probably even write an email or a letter to the studio, but I'd never take time out of my life to protest or go to the studio or whatever. And I'm ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE that goes to the midnight release. And if my friends are all dressing up, I'll dress up too. Bah. It's fun.

topleybird
08-21-2008, 09:10 PM
I will be leading a protest outside my local theater on opening night, demanding the studio release the movie eight months earlier.

Who's with me.

Ugly
08-22-2008, 11:59 PM
Meh, delays happen, and WB needed a summer cash cow (Terminator: Salvation could be iffy sans Ar-nhold. Even if he is way past his prime, it's his franchise in almost all viewers eyes. having the star of the 2nd biggest domestic movie of all time as the lead will probably soothe the pain.). Kind of sucks about the delay, but if you read the book you kind of know what's going to happen. Also, 3 years straight of one Harry Potter a movie a year from '09 to '11. That's a plus. After you get used to the years long waits between the novels, a couple of months is nothing.

But the only big budget movie to look forward to in the fall / winter 08 is now Quantum of Solace. Seems awful empty.

Ugly
08-23-2008, 12:08 AM
I do think splitting "Hallows" was lame. Hell, make it 3hr and 20 minutes, people would sit through it. They sat through ROTK. Also, where's the narrative break in "Hallows"? It just seems stupid, you CAN edit these movies down. Not every page is scripture. Hell, "Phoenix" was a better movie than a book, and that's because it streamlined a bloated novel into something tighter.

noyen
08-23-2008, 12:20 AM
i hate harry potter almost as much as i hate vincent gallo.

Ugly
08-23-2008, 01:15 AM
He managed to convince a chick to blow him on camera, that has to count for something.