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08-14-2008, 08:55 AM
the little extra bass notes in the "forgotten touch/forbidden thought" part of the TEG chorus
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View Full Version : discuss the finer points of sp songs ??? 08-14-2008, 08:55 AM the little extra bass notes in the "forgotten touch/forbidden thought" part of the TEG chorus Nothing/everything 08-14-2008, 09:03 AM the small bits of absolute silence at the beginning or end of each zeitgeist song mickyshambles 08-14-2008, 09:03 AM lol waltermcphilp 08-14-2008, 09:05 AM " i say, i do like that 'rat in a cage' song" http://www.imagicwonders.com/galleries/folk/candids/images/Monocle%20Man.jpg mickyshambles 08-14-2008, 09:07 AM :erm: aztec litany service 08-14-2008, 09:44 AM i know, obvious but i'm listening to it atm.. the solo in soma is like, the most painful, emotionally searing solo you can imagine Caine Walker 08-14-2008, 09:57 AM james' guitar work in Set the Ray to Jerry. Floppy Nono 08-14-2008, 10:07 AM james played guitar? Caine Walker 08-14-2008, 10:09 AM :think: i think so... waltermcphilp 08-14-2008, 10:17 AM sounds like it. Set the Ray to Jerry "Another remnant of a distant Siamese Dream past, 'Set the Ray to Jerry' was first written somewhere during the Gish tour. It's always been a band favorite, and seemingly only the band's, because no one ever mentions it. A sweet, simple song featuring only bass, drums, and some delayed James guitar. One night Flood and I put everything we had on a couple of tapes (about 40 songs) and just drove around Chicago until 3:30 in the morning deciding what was on or off the album. When we listened to 'Set the Ray,' it really moved me, but when I looked over to Flood he just shook his head no. That was the end of 'Set the Ray' on the album, because I trust Flood's opinion so much." T&T 08-14-2008, 10:25 AM the last 10 seconds of "eye" love that distorted beat 1100ww 08-14-2008, 11:39 AM 2:28 - 2:44 in WBFTT...the sick guitar work (James?) in the right channel. Adds so much to the song. Have to rewind it several times every time I hear it. MonteLDS 08-14-2008, 11:44 AM the start and end of Mayonaise RockLobster 08-14-2008, 11:53 AM all of their songs. <you're dumb for believing this> AndySlash 08-14-2008, 11:59 AM The first minute or so of G+tGC... fucking sweet drum pattern and kickass bassline anchor a psychedelic guitar freakout. I could listen to this and never get sick of it. The first four minutes of this song are, IMO, one of the best things they've ever done in the studio. ??? 08-14-2008, 12:13 PM The first minute or so of G+tGC... fucking sweet drum pattern and kickass bassline anchor a psychedelic guitar freakout. I could listen to this and never get sick of it. The first four minutes of this song are, IMO, one of the best things they've ever done in the studio. i've gotta back up any gatgc appreciation that goes around hnibos 08-14-2008, 12:15 PM the beginning of hummer still gives me goosebumps Rockin' Cherub 08-14-2008, 01:30 PM the little wah-wah-ed guitar melody at the end of bwbw my favourite part Rickpat12 08-14-2008, 01:36 PM Fucking there's a moment in We Only Come Out at Night. Starting at 2:20-2:23/24. There's a little bleepy thing that is just superb. Springbridge 08-14-2008, 01:51 PM Definitely almost all of their songs has a little something extra that's a nice addition, but one thing that I noticed recently is during a live performance of Lily (My One and Only), right after BC says "But there's an officer knocking at my door..." you hear Jimmy hit his high hat four times as if knocking. Pretty cool :) xyumachine 08-14-2008, 01:58 PM The fade out/outro section of Beautiful, you can hear Billy's emotions pouring through the lyrical delivery: don't let your life wrap up around you don't forget to call, whenever i'll be here just waiting for you i'll be under your stars forever neither here nor there just right beside you i'll be under the stairs forever neither here nor there just right beside you Haven't seen that as much recently. Rickpat12 08-14-2008, 02:18 PM Thru the Eyes of Ruby..."My Love for you just can't explain" And then when he says "Why" how it just so forms to the music above it. It's beautiful. And then the outro to that song. "The Night has come, to hold...us...YOUNNNNNNNNGGG" It's magnificent. I'm also a HUGE fan of the intro to the Speed Kills Single Version. It's so great. ??? 08-14-2008, 02:20 PM Definitely almost all of their songs has a little something extra that's a nice addition, but one thing that I noticed recently is during a live performance of Lily (My One and Only), right after BC says "But there's an officer knocking at my door..." you hear Jimmy hit his high hat four times as if knocking. Pretty cool :) ooh, great choice. Caine Walker 08-14-2008, 02:25 PM the last 10 seconds of "eye" love that distorted beat while we're talking about Eye... the floatly synth part during the "turn to the gates of heaven" line sounds like *warm* to me. ::melt:: Loop 08-14-2008, 02:27 PM The swirly guitar effect at the start of Thru The Eyes Of Ruby xyumachine 08-14-2008, 02:32 PM I'm also a HUGE fan of the intro to the Speed Kills Single Version. It's so great. One my favorites. I just love that bass line and the synths. The lead guitar during the "when i ride/with you tonight" section is amazing. Ramdust 08-14-2008, 02:58 PM I always liked the end of Whir, when out of nowhere it changes to minor key. Actually, I like a lot of outros. Ruby, Muzzle, Hummer, Drown (full), Obscured... SlingeroGuitaro 08-14-2008, 03:23 PM wah wah guitar at the end of tribute to johnny better than new 08-14-2008, 04:36 PM I'm not even sure how to describe it but on Mayonaise it always felt as if the "bottom" drops out under the guitars. In fact, I feel that way about most of SD. I would kill to recreate that dreamy destortion on my rig. Also, I think the "I feel free" part of frail and bedazzled is one of my all time favorite SP moments. slunken 08-14-2008, 04:43 PM the solo in destination unknown has been grabbing my attention lately... 1100ww 08-14-2008, 04:50 PM Thru the Eyes of Ruby..."My Love for you just can't explain" And then when he says "Why" how it just so forms to the music above it. It's beautiful. And then the outro to that song. "The Night has come, to hold...us...YOUNNNNNNNNGGG" It's magnificent. absolutely. amazing song. dudehitscar 08-14-2008, 04:53 PM the little woowoo woo woo woo part in In the arms of sleep. I don't know what makes that sound but it is great. frugalscotsman 08-14-2008, 08:09 PM the way the guitars come together on the Fmaj from 3:22 to 3:28 on i of the mourning CrabbMan 08-14-2008, 08:59 PM Rocket at like around 2:35, " do you know I couldn't stay. . . . . free" something about how the rhythm seems to change up for a moment, I feel my stomach drop out a bit like I'm in free-fall. Bodies, when we go from the intro into the song, I feel like I'm getting pulled in. Also in that song, I dig the spoken part, all those d-words, during the second chorus. ??? 08-14-2008, 09:06 PM the little woowoo woo woo woo part in In the arms of sleep. I don't know what makes that sound but it is great. one of my favourites, i really want to know what makes that sound. its got such a weird, woozy emotional quality to it.. CrabbMan 08-14-2008, 09:09 PM I always liked the end of Whir, when out of nowhere it changes to minor key. Not fair. Billy already mentioned that part in like 1994. Rickpat12 08-14-2008, 09:36 PM the little woowoo woo woo woo part in In the arms of sleep. I don't know what makes that sound but it is great. one of my favourites, i really want to know what makes that sound. its got such a weird, woozy emotional quality to it.. Yeah I was just listening to it two days ago and was really noticing that part. Very nice! Great touch to the song! CrabbMan 08-14-2008, 09:51 PM While we're discussing In the Arms of Sleep, that guitar, that twelve string, it gives me the shivers in the way that song should. Somehow, about a decade ago, I got a weird visual in my head where I see those strings being plucked by a device that's turned by a wooden crank. It has a medieval sound to it, if that makes any sense. exactlythesame 08-14-2008, 09:58 PM the beginning of hummer still gives me goosebumps the end of hummer still gives me goosebumps the closest to a perfect outro i've ever heard dudehitscar 08-14-2008, 10:02 PM the end of hummer still gives me goosebumps the closest to a perfect outro i've ever heard hummer is my favorite song of all time and it has a lot to do with that ending. frugalscotsman 08-14-2008, 10:18 PM the mandolin bridge in "to sheila" AndySlash 08-14-2008, 10:39 PM I think I've said this in a similar thread, but that one bend in the Landslide solo... yeah. Aces. Shallowed 08-14-2008, 11:24 PM The first 30 seconds of Soma. Apparently this track had 40 or so guitar tracks, and this part of the song shows it. When I listen to that part, it makes me think of some kind of Fantasia-style imagary, like this: http://www.novastructura.net/images/flock-00.jpg or this: http://www.conservefish.org/site/actionalertimages/school_of_fish.jpg except that all the birds or fish are tiny little guitars, or something like that... Kinda how you can't really pick out just one guitar sound (except for the main two that start before the other 40 come in) and all of them put together make up the whole sound. But it's such a fragile, tiny little sound... exactlythesame 08-14-2008, 11:27 PM i don't think the 40 guitar tracks are all at once, bro, but yeah, soma rocks tcm 08-14-2008, 11:36 PM the mandolin bridge in "to sheila" banjo... and i fully agree. redbreegull 08-14-2008, 11:52 PM I always lol at the part in WBFTT when Billy goes "to never DIIIIIIIIEUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH" fading into the background, but I don't think anyone ever hears it because it is pretty ridiculous but is never mentioned. redbreegull 08-14-2008, 11:53 PM banjo... and i fully agree. And also this, seriously, is probably in my top ten SP moments. frugalscotsman 08-14-2008, 11:58 PM banjo... and i fully agree. gracias tcm 08-15-2008, 12:58 AM I always lol at the part in WBFTT when Billy goes "to never DIIIIIIIIEUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH" fading into the background, but I don't think anyone ever hears it because it is pretty ridiculous but is never mentioned. i think the UUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH part of that is actually a bit of wacky Iha lead. that's funny though. redbreegull 08-15-2008, 01:09 AM i think the UUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH part of that is actually a bit of wacky Iha lead. that's funny though. Haha, I listened back and it could be either. Either way it brings the lol. Shallowed 08-15-2008, 01:23 AM Wow, I never noticed that, sure sounds weird. JRiordan 08-15-2008, 02:25 AM The first minute or so of G+tGC... fucking sweet drum pattern and kickass bassline anchor a psychedelic guitar freakout. I could listen to this and never get sick of it. The first four minutes of this song are, IMO, one of the best things they've ever done in the studio. Yes, when the main drum and guitar parts come crashing in about 10 seconds before the first lyrics ("To the center of the earth"), I think I have played this louder than any other song ever. Part of it has to do with the Machina production, but mostly it's because it is so so f'n awesome that it needs to be that loud. You cannot appreciate it nearly as much at casual volumes. MissionComplete 08-15-2008, 02:54 AM The part of Jesus Loves His Babies where Jesus is on Billy's answering machine. Rickpat12 08-15-2008, 09:28 AM Yeah about Hummer. I just love the way Billy almost whispers..."Doooooooo, you feeeeeel. Loooooooove, is realllll". The way the voice is just beneath the music is to die for. The outro is simply amazing as well. And all the weird guitars in Porcelina. I swear, I hear a new thing in that song every fucking time I listen to it. It's as if the whole song is like in 3-d and out of nowhere you get a 3 second glimpse at a guitar that is trying to make its way to the center of the picture but it's just waving out in the corner. That atmosphere created is beautiful. emotionalfriend 08-15-2008, 10:09 AM this thread is really making want to listen the Pumpkins. i haven't for such a long time. commando 08-15-2008, 10:32 AM The final chord strum in luna.... oh and the part when Billy's singing "SO in LOve .." and in between goes falsetto on the "I'M." Best BC vocal ever recorded. MonteLDS 08-15-2008, 10:42 AM i love the the start of Raindrops + Sunshowers. the sound reminds me of rain. wHATcOLOR 08-15-2008, 10:48 AM i love the the start of bullet with butterfly wings. the sound reminds me of bull wHATcOLOR 08-15-2008, 10:48 AM i love the the start of cherry. the sound reminds me of che wHATcOLOR 08-15-2008, 10:49 AM i love the the start of blue skies bring tears. the sound reminds me of blue sk wHATcOLOR 08-15-2008, 10:50 AM i love the the start of muzzle. the sound reminds me of muzz MonteLDS 08-15-2008, 10:52 AM o ha ha ha you're just too funny. o please go on tour areyougaffney? 08-15-2008, 10:55 AM Bodies, the start when the f chord remains in throughout is awesome. The banjo in to Shiela is class The drumming where Jimmy goes like into like double time at the end of TEG is rocking, The little vocal oh part on 1979 really adds to the song I think, The delays going under the whole of cherry are really nice, The verses of Porcelina where there are like electronic things going on that sound like electronic waves to me, which are very nice. Geek usa when going into the quiet section where he ebnds the not and it keeps going until it sounds like it explodes and quietens away...amazing. about a million more...I love this band. Rickpat12 08-15-2008, 10:58 AM Yeah about Geek USA...the "She really loves to break" part is fucking amazing. Like right when the song stops...there's like 3 or 4 guitars just getting feedback and the bass brings you back into the song and then a guitar string scratch and then Jimmy's fill, and then BOOM, right back to melting your face. :rockon: areyougaffney? 08-15-2008, 10:59 AM Yeah about Geek USA...the "She really loves to break" part is fucking amazing. Like right when the song stops...there's like 3 or 4 guitars just getting feedback and the bass brings you back into the song and then a guitar string scratch and then Jimmy's fill, and then BOOM, right back to melting your face. :rockon: Yep, you saying that made it pop into my head, yeah awesome. cheers Playback 08-16-2008, 12:23 AM For as many times as I've heard "Today" the six or so seconds of rotary guitar effect at 2:28-2:34 (probably a leslie cabinet) is still one of my favorites. The two seconds of pick scrape at the end of "Rocket" 3:45-3:47 is pretty cool too. Shallowed 08-16-2008, 12:55 AM The delays going under the whole of cherry are really nice, The verses of Porcelina where there are like electronic things going on that sound like electronic waves to me, which are very nice. *cums* I think that effect in Porcelina is flange. I love that sound... Edit: Oops, I'm thinking of Ruby. I realised what effect you mean now. That sound makes me cum even more. There's a song by a girl band called All Saints called Pure Shores that has the same effect in the chorus I think. It's very naice. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/R2p2VJWNYZg&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/R2p2VJWNYZg&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> paranoid 08-16-2008, 01:52 AM the vocals during the second and last choruses of to sheila are incredible (the frogs sang some harmony in this part as well) the ending of shame when a bunch of synths come in to create an ambient atmosphere, then fades out (i usually hate fade outs, but it works great with this tune) the glokenspiel in beautiful the keyboard that goes with the snare hit during the verses of by starlight the suttle snare rolls that sneak in towards the end of superchrist Fritter 08-16-2008, 03:08 AM o ha ha ha you're just too funny. o please go on tour Scathing attack from Monte. Answer: UNTIL THE BITTER BITTER END OF THE WORLD YEAHH DOODOO DA DOO DER NA NER NA NER Shallowed 08-16-2008, 03:31 AM God sneeze in bliss. areyougaffney? 08-16-2008, 04:09 AM *cums* I think that effect in Porcelina is flange. I love that sound... Edit: Oops, I'm thinking of Ruby. I realised what effect you mean now. That sound makes me cum even more. There's a song by a girl band called All Saints called Pure Shores that has the same effect in the chorus I think. It's very naice. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/R2p2VJWNYZg&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/R2p2VJWNYZg&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Yeah, it's from the beach soundtrack. I've always though exactly the same. Porcelina's production to me is as strong as any other song they have done I believe and when I 1st heard this song it reminded me ALOT of porcelina's production. I know the producer was someone who working with Madonna at the time...I wonder if he is a pumpkins fan or if the same sounds are just a coincidence, or they were released within 1-2 years of each other I think so it may be new piece of equipment they both used????any ideas?? Hate the Hater 08-16-2008, 04:20 AM phaser....nothing revolutionary aztec litany service 08-16-2008, 06:29 AM geek, 1:58, never thought about it but i dont know exactly how they did this..the heavy part of the song just floats away up into the clouds, it's just amazing the transition from rawk noize war to like heaven, haha maybe like the song getting killed in combat, going to heaven only to be reincarnated and come back to the shithole we call earth :lol: Shallowed 08-16-2008, 07:12 AM That's gotta suck cock harder than a vacuum cleaner. skipgo 08-16-2008, 12:49 PM the small bits of absolute silence at the beginning or end of each zeitgeist song you're my hero :) skipgo 08-16-2008, 12:49 PM i think i made a thread like this once. one of my better threads. GeekUK 08-16-2008, 03:00 PM The whistful sounding reverb over the vocals on Behold, The nightmare... floaty... Cade McNown 08-16-2008, 11:59 PM Yes, when the main drum and guitar parts come crashing in about 10 seconds before the first lyrics ("To the center of the earth"), I think I have played this louder than any other song ever. Part of it has to do with the Machina production, but mostly it's because it is so so f'n awesome that it needs to be that loud. You cannot appreciate it nearly as much at casual volumes. Seconded, the beginning of GATGC extremely loud is enveloping. Also I love the piano in For Martha especially the part starting at 3:55. One of my favorite moments on SD is the quick little snare that comes in right after Soma to begin Geek. Luke de Spa 08-17-2008, 12:05 AM i like that bit in that one song and it's like dunna dunna DUNNANUHDUNN!!!! dunna dunna DUNNANUHDUNN!!! PAP!PAP! BEEEEOOORNNNABEEEEORN freak out!!! gibbons exactlythesame 08-17-2008, 12:10 AM i think i made a thread like this once. one of my better threads. remember your roots avsfan7733 08-17-2008, 12:16 AM where's vince avsfan7733 08-17-2008, 12:40 AM does the cover of stay from the bridge school showcount? Oh my god the whole rendition of the song is amazing. IWishIWasBlank 08-19-2008, 07:36 AM where's vince YOU FUCKER WHERE ARE YOU!?!? I like French Movie Theme lately. Makes me want to listen to a few more of the old instrumentals. He hasn't done an instrumental track since the intro to Mellon Collie... or if you really want to count it... 17 on Adore. i love the the start of muzzle. the sound reminds me of muzz Muzzle has a great intro. I think it's more "anthem rock" than anything of Siamese. aztec litany service 08-19-2008, 07:50 AM BEEEEOOORNNNABEEEEORNthis made me think of the beginning of the starla solo. He hasn't done an instrumental track since the intro to Mellon Collie... le deux machina (which i like btw) and pale scales, wherever he's hiding it. IWishIWasBlank 08-19-2008, 07:53 AM Oh yeah, and I was just listening to MII the other day in the car. Well, it's more creepy than ethereal. I was kind of looking for trippy or ethereal really. Ramdust 08-19-2008, 10:56 AM All of the subtle harmonies on Adore. ??? 08-19-2008, 12:11 PM the little camera-shutter "chk chk ch-chk" before the 1st verse of waiting. genius ??? 08-19-2008, 12:12 PM <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/R2p2VJWNYZg&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/R2p2VJWNYZg&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> i actually really love this song. waltermcphilp 08-19-2008, 12:17 PM ARF ARF http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4555/icondoghm9.gif Caine Walker 08-19-2008, 12:30 PM where's vince YOU FUCKER WHERE ARE YOU!?!? . Glopaiswe 08-19-2008, 01:48 PM The "please don't change" part in Pug is brilliant. Well, the whole song, really, but especially that part. sweetanthony 08-19-2008, 03:55 PM The chorus of the Tale of Dusty & Pistol Pete- "... Let the waste cross the ancient trails to you, far out beneath the sorrow clouds, let them taste the bitter lost mistake of you... let them cry out through your rusted scars..." Floating on air with that shit! Another that give me a similar feeling: The change/outro of The Last Song, "... could you find your way across me?"- part. With BC Sr.'s lead guitar lines. Just a very special song. wHATcOLOR 08-19-2008, 03:58 PM i love the the start of to forgive. the sound reminds me of to f Shallowed 08-19-2008, 06:52 PM SOMA! http://www.novastructura.net/images/flock-00.jpg FLOCKS OF BIRDS! http://www.conservefish.org/site/actionalertimages/school_of_fish.jpg SCHOOLS OF FISH! MILLIONS AND BIZILLIONS OF TINY GUITARS! stumpycat 08-20-2008, 12:52 AM Thru the Eyes of Ruby is just epic, and every section is incredible in its own way. The use of flanger, chorus, wah, phaser, reverb, and whatever the hell else Bill threw in there could potentially sound like one gratuitous clusterfuck of effects...but no, it sounds utterly seemless. I especially love the parts that sound like floating through water/air/dreamspace. Never has the feeling been more accurately portrayed in music. Then some of the creamy warbly sound carries into the leads over the thick wall of epic buzzsaw guitar. Also, roughly 8:20 to 9:00 in Why Am I So Tired has this awesome Jimmy drum shuffle with prominent hi-hat. stumpycat 08-20-2008, 01:14 AM Oh yeah, 3:12-3:26 in the "Fruit Bat Salad" live 1992 recording of Frail and Bedazzled is so fucking badass. They should have totally kept this arrangement for the studio version of the song!! avsfan7733 08-20-2008, 01:49 AM "atom bomb on the shelf, unsung" may everyone findddddd a way to get oooooooooooooooon *guitar solo* "I dont want to live on charity, pleasures real or is it fantasy?" the intro guitar part of blew away the monstrous snare fills in again,again,again I love the ascending octaves during the chorus of jellybelly too My Blue Heaven 08-20-2008, 03:24 AM acoustic breakdown in behold! the night mare. T&T 08-20-2008, 03:30 AM acoustic breakdown in behold! the night mare. 4 part vocal harmonies! :banging: and the feedback squeal when it kicks in again. :banging::banging::banging: Shallowed 08-20-2008, 03:44 AM Sure, that part rips, but does it have a MILLION BILLION GAZILLION BIZILLION.... ZILLION.... TRILLION.. BIZILLYBILLYGAZILLYBAZILLYZILLION TINY GUITARS!!! ? I ask you. Playback 08-20-2008, 10:29 PM Thru the Eyes of Ruby is just epic, and every section is incredible in its own way. <snip> I especially love the parts that sound like floating through water/air/dreamspace. Never has the feeling been more accurately portrayed in music. I guess you haven't heard "The Beautiful Blue Danube" waltz, Johann Strauss II. The music was prominently featured in 2001: A Space Odyssey.(1968) The Vangelis "Blade Runner" soundtrack isn't too bad at portraying space either. wHATcOLOR 08-20-2008, 11:44 PM i love the the start of pennies. the sound reminds me of pen tsp gatmog 08-21-2008, 12:04 AM first five seconds of pissant sounds like a nuclear bomb went off over the drums Luke de Spa 08-21-2008, 04:01 AM I especially love the parts that sound like floating through water/air/dreamspace. Never has the feeling been more accurately portrayed in music. yeah, i mean, there are a few excellent documentaries about dreamspace but it's just too hard to squeeze a microphone in there. thank you bill for accurately recreating the sound of the place wHATcOLOR 08-21-2008, 04:47 PM i love the the start of thru the eyes of ruby. the sound reminds me of thru the eyes of ru Fathoms (unadored) 08-21-2008, 04:55 PM the part in farewell and goodnight that makes you feel that all is right with the world and that no bad dreams or bad experiences will ever touch you again... ie: the whole song. stumpycat 08-22-2008, 12:42 AM I guess you haven't heard "The Beautiful Blue Danube" waltz, Johann Strauss II. The music was prominently featured in 2001: A Space Odyssey.(1968) The Vangelis "Blade Runner" soundtrack isn't too bad at portraying space either. Yes, I've heard all this orchestral stuff. As much as it may represent the paradigm of proper and well-composed music, it's just not really my thing. I best relate to the instrumentation of rock and more experimental electronic music, which seems to resonate with me personally moreso than these sort of compositions and arrangements. It's perhaps heretical to say that, but that's just my personal preference. yeah, i mean, there are a few excellent documentaries about dreamspace but it's just too hard to squeeze a microphone in there. thank you bill for accurately recreating the sound of the place Ha-ha. It's obviously subjective dude! This is what my dreamspace sounds like. These are the sort of visuals I get when I listen to it. Yours may have a specific sound-feel, too. SlingeroGuitaro 08-22-2008, 12:53 AM vocal harmony in pennies is nice the weird chanting in quiet is nice the tambourine in today is nice the fapping in porcelina is nice Zorgon 08-26-2008, 01:20 AM the solo in destination unknown has been grabbing my attention lately... yes yes yes this x a million. I've spent years wondering how they did that. And since we're talking BWBW single songs here.. the very end of Dreaming when the bass comes back in and then the song cuts cuts out like 2 bars later. You can imagine the band just jamming that out for a while in the studio :) hoboj0e 08-26-2008, 02:43 AM James' solo at the end of Soma, and then the "So let the sadness come again" lyric. Fantastic piece of their best song ever. killtrocity 08-26-2008, 11:52 AM the end of by starlight when de arcy's vocals come in with the little solo somaziro 08-26-2008, 11:57 AM James' solo at the end of Soma, and then the "So let the sadness come again" lyric. Fantastic piece of their best song ever. James' solo??? hoboj0e 08-26-2008, 01:44 PM He plays it live, I guess it is Billy in the studio. But if you watch them closely at old live recordings you can see Billy and James switch playing solos at that exact moment, as Billy needs to sing the next part (hard playing solos while singing). avsfan7733 08-26-2008, 01:47 PM wait who is james hoboj0e 08-26-2008, 01:49 PM He is the lead singer of Metallica wHATcOLOR 08-26-2008, 02:02 PM i love the the start of quiet. the sound reminds me of qui tcm 08-26-2008, 02:11 PM i love the the start of window paine. the sound reminds me of wind Shallowed 08-27-2008, 04:15 AM i love the the start of quiet. the sound reminds me of qui Oh yeah, that's a kick-ass little intro/effect there. I like the eep-eep-eep-eep effect of the guitars on Cherry. Is that delay combined with constantly switching the guitar on and off, like on "Know Your Enemy"? <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0y-7fl1nJfw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0y-7fl1nJfw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Cool As Ice Cream 08-27-2008, 06:02 AM i love the start of methusela. the sound reminds me of meth. i love the start of rubberman. the sound reminds me of rubber. i love the start of spaceboy. the sound reminds me of space. i love the start of silverfuck. the sound reminds me of silver. i love the start of la dolly vita. the sound reminds me of la do. tcm 08-27-2008, 10:05 AM you're reaching. Cool As Ice Cream 08-27-2008, 10:08 AM http://www.blamonet.com/images/item/bananahuge.gif wHATcOLOR 08-27-2008, 02:05 PM the the the the the tcm 08-27-2008, 02:14 PM the end is the beginning is the end and the beginning is the end is the beginning tie for most the's in a the smashing pumpkins song title, with the ethers tragic at a close second. isn't that interesting? suncrashesdown 08-27-2008, 03:18 PM The part where the Ebows come in before the second verse of Drown is kickkkkkkassssssss Runsaber 08-27-2008, 04:41 PM and SHOULD I fall from GRACE the last one. you know. Spira|_ 08-28-2008, 01:56 PM For me the intro of 'Cupid De Locke' is the most magic thing SP did... I just imagine an awesome lightly carroussel spinning around in a fantasy world! It is the purity. ^^ 32978 lol, real "One last kiss for me and..." - so deep, good and bad... "Love is suicide... love isssssssss" - hard but true and pretty emotional "Lets go for a ride, (...), babeeeeeeee" - I use to say it often ^^ JokeyLoki 08-28-2008, 11:37 PM http://www.blamonet.com/images/item/bananahuge.gif ^ zPolishBloodz 08-29-2008, 01:58 AM The overall melody of Galapogos. Ol' Couch Ass 08-29-2008, 02:41 AM I like that one song where it's all soft and pretty and Billy is singing all quietly over it and then it kicks in with some "KEEEERANG WHHOOOSH BIGA BIGGA WHHHHAM" and he starts yelling over it. Man gets me every time. terrence 08-29-2008, 04:47 PM The end solo of mashed potatoes hello kitty about 5:15 onwards defines the pumpkins sound for me. Billy and Jimmy just kind of mesh together and read each other so well. mxzombie 08-30-2008, 07:15 PM the fade in to slow dawn RockLobster 08-30-2008, 07:44 PM i know it's not a song but the all of hope. ToEachesOwn 08-30-2008, 09:54 PM Billy's vocals on the first chorus of I Am One Part II... "and we'd say what we'd say / and we'd do as we please / and we'd break every rule / on our knees" Actually I love that whole song, but that part I really dig. slunken 08-31-2008, 05:41 PM siamese dream (the song) gets no love ever. Its in my top 5. stumpycat 08-31-2008, 10:45 PM siamese dream (the song) gets no love ever. Its in my top 5. What's it do for you? No, really. :think: That song sounds very wild, loud, and noisy. I imagine it's grating for some. Billy's vocals on the first chorus of I Am One Part II... "and we'd say what we'd say / and we'd do as we please / and we'd break every rule / on our knees" Actually I love that whole song, but that part I really dig. I agree with this. The first recording of this song I had was just on an old tape of relatively poor sound quality, so the whole song had an added element of eeriness to it. slunken 08-31-2008, 10:54 PM the lyrics are amazing - "coming down from my siamese dream" & "motherfuckers try to crack your crown, chew you up and spit you out" pretty much, to me, sums up the S.D. experience. that and the actual instrumental track is completely nutso. most of it is slowed down did you know? love the boggy guitar tone and those high pitched squeeling parts. the shaker percussion, the handclaps, oohs and aaaahs in the background etc. sounds like coming off an LSD trip tcm 08-31-2008, 11:00 PM should've been on the album... i agree. stumpycat 08-31-2008, 11:14 PM Yeah, I guess I could see where the song would really work as a bizarre closer (ala "I'm Going Crazy") if appended at the back end of Luna. that and the actual instrumental track is completely nutso. most of it is slowed down did you know? love the boggy guitar tone and those high pitched squeeling parts. the shaker percussion, the handclaps, oohs and aaaahs in the background etc. sounds like coming off an LSD trip Yep, it's wild as fuck. I figured it was just one of Billy's LSD songs. Like Where's Vince, Spaced, Honeyspider II, Pulseczar, etc. Sonic Johnny 08-31-2008, 11:25 PM the second half of the guitar solo in Cherub Rock... after the vocals take over again... is just as good, if not better than the first half. The organ solo in the Moon Demo version of Rhinoceros The little vocoder flourishes under the guitars in 1979 The pre-reverbed vocals that kinda rush up to the surface to meet Billys voice on the last time through "bang bang you're dead..." Jimmys fills at 0:07 and 1:00 on the good version of Cash Car Star dudehitscar 09-01-2008, 09:31 AM The pre-reverbed vocals that kinda rush up to the surface to meet Billys voice on the last time through "bang bang you're dead..." ^ i_adore_adore 09-01-2008, 07:26 PM The little vocoder flourishes under the guitars in 1979 Yes. The little mouth sound after "misspent youth" in Stumbeline. I've mentioned this a few times, I think, and usually people think I'm stupid for noticing, but it's always been one of my favorite parts of that song. It makes me think he's in his basement all alone with an acoustic guitar, and it makes me forget for a minute that "XYU" is coming next and he's actually a huge freaking rock star. Yes, that's all what that little mouth sound makes me feel. dudehitscar 09-01-2008, 09:25 PM speaking of xyu the vocal performance is great for nuances. Particular favorite is "bye bye BABY GOODBYE! bye bye" I love the way the last bye is so quiet and distant. Zorgon 09-01-2008, 10:00 PM The solo at the end of The last Song. "The diamond claws of death" line in Rotten Apples. And like all of Medellia of the Gray Skies. waltermcphilp 09-01-2008, 11:33 PM Billy's vocals on the first chorus of I Am One Part II... i thought this was on the RSPAA but i can't seem to find it. am i on crack or something? tcm 09-01-2008, 11:42 PM i thought this was on the RSPAA but i can't seem to find it. am i on crack or something? http://www.rspaa.org/rspaa/Demos/Reel%20Time%20Studios/RTS2%20Fall%201989%20(Acoustic%20Session)/ waltermcphilp 09-01-2008, 11:45 PM so its not the crack. okay, good. slunken 09-02-2008, 09:14 PM "The diamond claws of death" line in Rotten Apples. "the aeroplane flies high; tarantula looks right" wHATcOLOR 09-02-2008, 09:19 PM The solo at the end of The last Song. "The diamond claws of death" line in Rotten Apples. And like all of Medellia of the Gray Skies. i always thought it was darkened claws Zorgon 09-04-2008, 06:04 PM i always thought it was darkened claws Well I guess that explains why I was so intrigued by the delivery of that word :erm: avsfan7733 09-04-2008, 06:27 PM speaking of rotten apples, when the 2nd layer of vocals come in its really awesome shannon 09-04-2008, 06:53 PM this thread almost made me cry thinking about the old school pumpkins and how much i miss them zPolishBloodz 09-04-2008, 09:53 PM this thread almost made me cry thinking about the old school pumpkins and how much i miss them Grow a pair. ToEachesOwn 09-04-2008, 11:22 PM speaking of rotten apples, when the 2nd layer of vocals come in its really awesome I know there's a million people that love Rotten Apples, but I've never been a fan of that song. I dislike Billy's ascending vocals and at times it sounds like he's out of breath at the end of each verse as his voice cracks. I do enjoy the "When will I see her again?" and "She'll never listen again" verses... I just wish the vocals weren't so rough. tcm 09-04-2008, 11:23 PM but that's the beauty of it you fool, damn. ToEachesOwn 09-04-2008, 11:32 PM but that's the beauty of it you fool, damn. Eh, I guess I just don't get. A song like Jupiter's Lamet seems rough, but the vocals fit. I just wish that the vocals were more subtle on Rotten Apples. tcm 09-04-2008, 11:43 PM ok. i'm sorry i was short with you. Sonic Johnny 09-04-2008, 11:44 PM ooh ooh, i just remembered one! the start of annie-dog before the drums come in, the barely audible little notes played with brushes on the hi-hats in between the piano notes. slunken 09-09-2008, 08:24 PM i love the part during meladori magpie when he sings "do you remember when we first met/chasing down the alleyways" and then the multitracked vocals come in like a chorus and sing "BEHIND MY DAD'S" i think that's the one line that really makes me feel like a little kid again :( wHATcOLOR 09-09-2008, 08:26 PM i love the the start of the aeroplane flies high (turns left, looks right). the sound reminds me of th |