15 Step
Bodysnatchers
There There
All I Need
Pyramid Song
Nude
Arpeggi
The Gloaming
Climbing Up the Walls
Faust Arp
Videotape
Morning Bell
Idioteque
Reckoner
Everything in its Right Place
Just
How to Disappear Completely
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You and Whose Army?
Bangers & Mash
Exit Music
Jigsaw Falling Into Place
Karma Police
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House of Cards
The National Anthem
Street Spirit
a setlist without paranoid android isn't a setlist at all, methinks
redbull
08-04-2008, 02:52 AM
a setlist without paranoid android isn't a setlist at all, methinks
disagreed. The only song I really could have gone for that they didn't do was Optimistic.
DamingR
08-04-2008, 06:22 AM
I thought it was generally boring. I saw them over in Cleveland a few years back and thought it was transcendent. This was just dull.
I was also surrounded by frat boys in the pit who were trying way too hard to dance. When they played Karma Police someone behind me said "HOLY SHIT! I can't fucking believe it."
Anyway, I think Wilco tonight will be better.
greymedallia
08-04-2008, 04:06 PM
I found the show to be completely forgettable -- not bad by any means, but not also not very engaging. Partly, because I was seated under the pavillion about as far to the right of the stage as possible. Partly, because the pacing of the setlist was pretty poor. Not to mention the fact that I never listen to Radiohead anymore and have been pretty much indifferent to their past two albums. I only went to the show because a friend had an extra ticket and didn't want to go alone. Nevertheless, I went in with the intent to enjoy the show and I suppose that I mildly succeeded.
Highlights were Grizzly Bear, the lights, and a rendition of Idiotheque that I thought came off pretty well. We left during Jigsaw Falling Into Place, but it would have been nice to have heard Street Spirit.
bja1288
08-04-2008, 04:13 PM
Aww lucky, you got Street Spirit.
yup
Rickpat12
08-04-2008, 10:11 PM
I'm pissed I didn't go :(
AndySlash
08-04-2008, 10:17 PM
Fuckin hell. Street Spirit shoulda been at Lolla.
Eulogy
08-04-2008, 11:08 PM
Climbing Up the Walls
Just
How to Disappear Completely
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You and Whose Army?
Exit Music
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Street Spirit
oh sweet jesus. ohhhhh man i wish i could have seen these.
davin
08-05-2008, 03:30 AM
I thought it was generally boring. I saw them over in Cleveland a few years back and thought it was transcendent. This was just dull.
I was also surrounded by frat boys in the pit who were trying way too hard to dance. When they played Karma Police someone behind me said "HOLY SHIT! I can't fucking believe it."
Anyway, I think Wilco tonight will be better.
I found the show to be completely forgettable -- not bad by any means, but not also not very engaging. Partly, because I was seated under the pavillion about as far to the right of the stage as possible. Partly, because the pacing of the setlist was pretty poor. Not to mention the fact that I never listen to Radiohead anymore and have been pretty much indifferent to their past two albums. I only went to the show because a friend had an extra ticket and didn't want to go alone. Nevertheless, I went in with the intent to enjoy the show and I suppose that I mildly succeeded.
Highlights were Grizzly Bear, the lights, and a rendition of Idiotheque that I thought came off pretty well. We left during Jigsaw Falling Into Place, but it would have been nice to have heard Street Spirit.
fwiw, i also thought both shows i saw this year (lolla and dalllas) were pretty "tame" compared to past shows i have seen, though i would never use the word "boring". my assessment is basically just because of the setlist, not because of the performance. of course, this is an extremely nit-picky judgment and also based on the crowd/vibe to a certain degree, as well as indicative of the new matieral....so considering all that ...its pretty much what i expected. it was still radiohead, and it was still awesome.
i was pleasently surprised the lolla set was just as long as other shows on the tour, by eliminating the long encore breaks and barely saying a word, the squeezed in the same number of songs.
wounded
08-05-2008, 07:56 AM
i thought the indy show was pretty good. i really liked the in rainbows material live and the light show was great. setlist was paced pretty well for the most part. i would have liked PA, but i can live without it. Personally, from where i was, i thought the crowd at this show was better than at blossom center 03, of course i now realize that was 5 years ago, so what the hell do i remember
davin
08-05-2008, 10:21 AM
Karma Police would have been nice, at Lolla. As well as Miximitosis, Street Spirit and Bangers & Mash.
But thats cool, we got Optimistic and a couple others.
Zorgon
08-05-2008, 06:32 PM
They tore shit up in Cleveland last night. Maybe they just needed Lolla and Indy to get warmed up again.
fwiw, i also thought both shows i saw this year (lolla and dalllas) were pretty "tame" compared to past shows i have seen, though i would never use the word "boring". my assessment is basically just because of the setlist, not because of the performance...as well as indicative of the new matieral....so considering all that ...its pretty much what i expected.
I agree with you, so I think we're on the same page.
This show was nowhere near as emotional of a performance from the band as the Blossom Center in 03. It was technically very good - excellent reproductions of the material. The problem was that the songs just didn't seem to have the urgency and soul of some of the older tracks - or maybe the band was just bored. I'm not a great musician, but I've played enough music to have had that knot in my stomach from being emotionally invested in a performance - and that was obviously missing IMO.
I really wasn't in the least bit surprised - I think In Rainbows is their weakest effort in years, and based on the setlists I had seen ahead of time, my expectations were low. I was just hoping that maybe the band could add something more to the performance.
I talked to a guy waiting in line for Wilco last night who had seen the Houston show and said this one was much better. I told him I thought it was boring and he said, "It's just a very flat setlist." I agree - it's just a crap setlist. I am all for a band playing new material. I even liked hearing a lot of the Zeitgeist songs. I just think the band was on autopilot.
Yes, the lightshow was fantastic.
Yes, the crowd was better than at Blossom 03.
The bottom line for me is that I was looking around at people and could feel them trying really hard to love that concert. I thought they were sheep. The Blossom show in 03 was vastly superior. I can hear more emotion on "I Might Be Wrong."
Anyway, Wilco was great. Anybody else go to that last night?
AndySlash
08-05-2008, 07:45 PM
the sound needed to be a lot fucking louder at lolla.
four fucking years and they haven't figured that shit out.
if it's a noise ordinance thing, pay a fucking fine or negotiate something.
noyen
08-05-2008, 08:17 PM
we ended up in a sweet spot for nin at lollla, it was super loud. at rage it was really quiet for me, i think alot of it had to do with the PA setup in the crowd and how out of phase and quiet it was back there, but certain spots sounded really good. and your orientation in the crowd and all that. the amount of people in the crowd really dampens the sound, and they never seem to account for that. sounds great when there are only a few thousand, but then you get up in the 10,000's and they keep the same volume, it just doesnt work out. at nin i felt every tingly of bass. at rage you could have an intimate conversation :) but yeah, radiohead needed to be way way louder. they only got nin and kanye right as far as volume. i could hear kanye's rumble every pause.
davin
08-05-2008, 09:53 PM
the sound needed to be a lot fucking louder at lolla.
four fucking years and they haven't figured that shit out.
if it's a noise ordinance thing, pay a fucking fine or negotiate something.
we ended up in a sweet spot for nin at lollla, it was super loud. at rage it was really quiet for me, i think alot of it had to do with the PA setup in the crowd and how out of phase and quiet it was back there, but certain spots sounded really good. and your orientation in the crowd and all that. the amount of people in the crowd really dampens the sound, and they never seem to account for that. sounds great when there are only a few thousand, but then you get up in the 10,000's and they keep the same volume, it just doesnt work out. at nin i felt every tingly of bass. at rage you could have an intimate conversation :) but yeah, radiohead needed to be way way louder. they only got nin and kanye right as far as volume. i could hear kanye's rumble every pause.
i think the key is knowing where to stand at lolla.
on all the stages except for bud light and at&t i generally try to be on the same plane, or in front of, the soundboard. for example: at the citi stage you can even be off on the side in the shade, and it still sounds good if you are even with, or in front of, the soundboard.
the northside bud light stage has 2 zones. you either have to be in line with or in front of the soundboard, or about 20ft-30ft behind the row of satellite speakers centered on the speaker post. any closer to the satelites, and they are too bright. any further back, and the sounds is muffled. just in front of them, and you'll hear a delay. too far in front of them but not close to the soundboard, and it'll just be muffled like being too far behing the satelites.
same basic concept at the at&t stage on the south end, but it has 3 zones. soundboard or ahead, behind 1st row of satellites, or behind 2nd row of satellites. however, the sattellite speakers on the south-end are different than the ones on the north. not only are there 2 rows of them, but they're more directional and push sound out further, so you are better off being centered between 2 posts (instead of centered on one) but still 20ft-30ft behind the speakers. it won't be as loud as the satellites on the north-end, but still the best you can get.
the above was proven to be while making my way forward during RAGE. we hung back for Toadies and when RAGE started i moved forward from the back all the way up to the soundboard. as i passed through each zone sound got better and better and then suddenly worse...then better and better and suddenly worse...then finally better and better...until we were asked to take steps back and it got a little worse.
for NIN and Radiohead i was in front of the soundboard, so it was all good.
noyen
08-05-2008, 10:32 PM
yeah, my experience was where i was standing in the crowd that sounded best. made huge differences. some stages things were completely out of phase. devotchka sounded amazing as fuck, but the soundboard guy was ceating an off beat effect with the bass drum and the tuba and upright bass at times. they were so good though. did you get to see devotchka? i wish they got to play more. they sounded so great and were doing such a good job. the theremin was super old school and didnt have volume control and he was playing it with the neck of his guitar.
but yeah, being near the soundboards helped so much. especially during radiohead, love and rockets and nin. ended up closers to these wonderfully bassy spots where i couldnt hear all the douches yapping around me. i dont understand why people talk so damn much at shows. it causes rage.
AndySlash
08-05-2008, 10:47 PM
I shouldn't need to get in a fucking "zone" to hear the headline band.
noyen
08-05-2008, 10:51 PM
odd numbered zones were reserved. zone 9 tickets, which i heard were the best got raided by a group of cloven hooved yokels. zone 83 and 32 were hot zones too.
Thaniel Buckner
08-06-2008, 12:45 AM
I shouldn't need to get in a fucking "zone" to hear the headline band.
well it's a simple matter of physics. if you're trying to project that much sound with that many speakers over that wide an area, there are going to be huge pockets where the distance between the speakers themselves will cause the sound waves from each stack to cancel each other out. it's virtually unavoidable.
davin
08-06-2008, 12:48 AM
yeah, my experience was where i was standing in the crowd that sounded best. made huge differences. some stages things were completely out of phase. devotchka sounded amazing as fuck, but the soundboard guy was ceating an off beat effect with the bass drum and the tuba and upright bass at times. they were so good though. did you get to see devotchka? i wish they got to play more. they sounded so great and were doing such a good job. the theremin was super old school and didnt have volume control and he was playing it with the neck of his guitar.
but yeah, being near the soundboards helped so much. especially during radiohead, love and rockets and nin. ended up closers to these wonderfully bassy spots where i couldnt hear all the douches yapping around me. i dont understand why people talk so damn much at shows. it causes rage.
yea, they did sound pretty good. i only heard a few songs though, from far away, as i was gettign in position for Explosions in the Sky.
distance
08-06-2008, 08:53 AM
i keep seeing these setlists and regardless of how much i like radiohead, i don't feel any sort of regret for not going to any shows on this tour. they certainly don't feel like anything interesting/new compared to the 2006 tour.
Rockin' Cherub
08-07-2008, 11:12 AM
i listened to half of in rainbows yesterday and radiohead annoyed the shit out of me