Look, even if you don't like NIN, wait until you check out this light show Trent's been putting up for these concerts. Simply amazing. I can't wait for 8/16.

The embed doesn't seem to work, so here's a link -no lemon party I promise-

http://vimeo.com/1415133

i'm seeing them in Philly. i can't wait.

The rehearsal footage from pitchfork tv/youtube got me pretty pumped. Hopefully they'll drop by Finland again eventually. Trent delivers.

yeah i heard the light show was pretty bomb on this. Got tickets for St. Louis.

check out this article if you haven't already seen it:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/07/25/tour-preview-nine-inch-nails-power-up-the-lights/

can't wait for lolla this weekend.

Look, even if you don't like NIN, wait until you check out this light show Trent's been putting up for these concerts. Simply amazing. I can't wait for 8/16.

The embed doesn't seem to work, so here's a link -no lemon party I promise-

http://vimeo.com/1415133

just checked the video out.

i think they actually had a partial mock up of this same technology at Reading Festival last year. like a mesh wall that you can see through and can do all sorts of different discrete lights but can also create a solid (or slightly transperent) image across the entire surface.

rig wasn't nearly as tall or as expansive, but it was enough to cover just the band.

^^ yeah they had the wall both times i saw them in 2006, but this looks way cooler. Especially all the swinging bars

they'll do anything these days to distract you from the rubbish pouring into your ears.

^^ yeah they had the wall both times i saw them in 2006, but this looks way cooler. Especially all the swinging bars

maybe i'm not explaining it right.

i saw them twice in 2006 as well, as they zig-zagged across the US, and those shows had a larger thinner screen that came down like a drape and the band was able to play both behind and in front of it, while full motion video played. they also had those weird equalizer bar things, like shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHrkAJDR5I

in 2007 it was more like an intricate thick screen. like a framework wall. where all the spots of air could be filled with light if necessary, or transperent. and again, they played in front and behind it, but no full motion videos. the closest they came to anytjhing full motion was some vcr snow. like the 1min mark of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQogVpKcE4&NR=1

they'll do anything these days to distract you from the rubbish pouring into your ears.

this made me lol.

but srsly, it may not be that exciting or fresh compared to old NIN (and if it were ppl would hate it anyway)....but they still rock, are great live, and are better than all the NIN immitators still out there. I imagine you should know what you're getting at this point with NIN...and they still execute it well. if you don't like NIN now, I suppose you must have never liked them.

here's the setlist from seattle. pretty much the same as the warm-up set in the RS article. despite trent's disclaimer that it wouldn't be.

Disc 1
1. 999,999
2. 1,000,000
3. Letting You
4. Discipline
5. March of the Pigs
6, Head Down
7. The Frail
8. Closer
9. Gave Up
10. Corona Radiata
11. The Warning
12. The Great Destroyer
13. 1 Ghosts I
14. 25 Ghosts I
15. 19 Ghosts III
16. Piggy
17. The Greater Good
18. Pinion
19. Wish
20. Terrible Lie

Disc 2
1. Survivalism
2. The Big Come Down
3. 31 Ghosts IV
4. Only
5. The Hand That Feeds
6. Head Like A Hole
Encore
7. Echoplex
8. The Beginning of the End
9. The Good Soldier
10. Hurt
11. In This Twilight

I'm surpised to see Ghosts tracks there

too much The Slip. not enough older stuff. i guess that's to be expected though.

GIVE ME SOME FUCKING REPTILE, TRENT. DO IT.

He ended the concert with In This Twilight...

...:eek:

I can't WAIT to see that song live, I'd pay the ticket just for the song.

Although it's irritating that the song Lights in the Sky isn't being played. As awesome as Hurt is, I've already seen it live and want to see Lights in the Sky.

they'll do anything these days to distract you from the rubbish pouring into your ears.

You're a dumbass if you think that newer Nine Inch Nails is really any worse than older stuff. He's just not all pissed off anymore, and it doesn't bother me. You can only scream, "I hate everyone!" so many times before it seems fake. And besides, The Slip is still 90% ace. Letting You is one of his most badass and angry tracks in years. 1,000,000 is pure industrial goodness.

nothing on the slip is "industrial"

I think 1,000,000 and Letting You are pretty damn industrial.

But I'm not going to get into a genre argument because they're fucking dumb because everyone gets all pissed off at the people who don't see NIN as industrial.

But for realz, I'm not going to argue about the industrial piece.

He's just not all pissed off anymore.........Letting You is one of his most badass and angry tracks in years.

?

nothing on the slip is "industrial"

If you really want to get into it, nothing Trent has ever recorded has really been industrial.

:erm: If NIN isn't industrial, explain to me what they are, exactly.

Pretty Hate Machine, 50% of Broken, a good percentage of TDS and YZ, and a few off of The Slip are pretty damn industrial.

But PHM, at the very least, is 100% industrial.

:erm: If NIN isn't industrial, explain to me what they are, exactly.

Pretty Hate Machine, 50% of Broken, a good percentage of TDS and YZ, and a few off of The Slip are pretty damn industrial.

But PHM, at the very least, is 100% industrial.

PHM is a synthpop record. Industrial is way more abstract than NIN. Think Throbbing Gristle, Skinny Puppy, or Einsturzende Neubauten. I'd say a lot of the NIN stuff has Industrial elements, but they're all within a pop structure.

I hear a LOT of Skinny Puppy in PHM, but idk, I just think Trent did a lot to widen the appeal of industrial.

He just made the genre larger. No different from when Pink Floyd stopped making straight-forward pop songs.

It's like calling Bon Jovi heavy metal.

I remember somewhere Trent saying that he never thought of the band as industrial.

:erm: If NIN isn't industrial, explain to me what they are, exactly.

Pretty Hate Machine, 50% of Broken, a good percentage of TDS and YZ, and a few off of The Slip are pretty damn industrial.

But PHM, at the very least, is 100% industrial.


So what 50% of broken is similar to PHM at all?

You just listed 4 albums that pretty much sound nothing like each other and called them the same.

With Teeth is basically pretty PHM part 2 and you don't consider that industrial?

Kind of amazes me how people can make statements like this that make no sense at all when you break them apart.

If you can point out exactly where I called them similar, please, go ahead.

I said they are industrial.

That's it.

If you can point out exactly where I called them similar, please, go ahead.

I said they are industrial. Point.
Set.
Macth.

If you can point out exactly where I called them similar, please, go ahead.

I said they are industrial.

That's it.

In order to the same genre of music they would need to sound similar. End of story.

Not sure why people have such a tough time with this concept, both Trent and Al Jourgensen said repeatedly that they were not making industrial music.

Ministry totally isn't industrial.

5th i see NIN 15th i see radiohead. fuck yea!

Ministry totally isn't industrial.

you're totally not cool

just got home from lolla. waiting for pizza to arrive. :-)

nin's light show was the exact same as reading last year, just fine tuned. the black holes within the white vhs snow worked much better than in reading, for example. they have definitely improved it, as well as the sheer size of the mesh screen and the number of light towers behind it. only radiohead had light bars.....so that youtube video of NIN must be an optical illisuion.

anyway, NIN were fuckign great. best of the fest imo, with radiohead a very very close 2nd. it was just the personal song choice preferences that decided the winner, because both were performances were great.

THANK GOD FOR ROBIN FINK. He saved NIN. His guitar work srsly improved every song, compared to what they sounded like the last tour. what the fuck was he doing wasting his time with axl.

THANK GOD FOR ROBIN FINK. He savedNIN. His guitar work srsly improved every song, compared to what they sounded like the last tour. what the fuck was he doing wasting his time with axl.

I think he just wanted to play in a band where he had the chance to play his full range of abilities. He did some amazing guitar work with GNR, to bad Axl is such a dick we never really got to see much of it.

yea, hopefully we will eventually. In the meantime, NIN has a bright future and has been completey reinvigorated thanx to Fink's return.