of course they were imperiously brilliant , brave, precise, unpredictable...all the things we love and admire them for. But there's one thought or observation I can't get out of my mind which is that the crowd around me were talking quite a lot through all the in rainbows stuff, all the hail to the thief stuff (yes, even there there) and all the kid a stuff (yes, even the national anthem) but they shut the fuck up and listened in rapt awe when it came to karma police, no surprises, my iron lung and paranoid android. and it's not just because they're older songs and not just because they're more conventional (paranoid android is as structurally unusual as anything they've done) it's because, dammit, they're SONGS with that strange spark of inner life that songs have but which impressive slabs of impeccably produced musical artistry just don't. great gig, though.

burn in hell fuckhead

haha this is the only thing that made me laugh today.

I was about to play the straight man in this little comedy routine and point out why else people might not have paid much attention to post-OKC songs, but then I scrolled back up and reread the part where he explains how Paranoid Android is structurally unusual and I thought, I can't do this

tard

uh Kid A has alot of their most emotional songs

I was about to play the straight man in this little comedy routine and point out why else people might not have paid much attention to post-OKC songs, but then I scrolled back up and reread the part where he explains how Paranoid Android is structurally unusual and I thought, I can't do this

ha ha, this is priceless. hell hath no fury like an earnest elitist self-important radiohead fan, unfortunately if you choose to play to 40,000 people you can't complain if the Neanderthal hordes - who paid £49 for their tickets too - want to hear the anthems.

did someone say earnest elitist self-important radiohead fan

I'm seeing them tommorow

I hate Radiohead fans though. So very much.

SONGS with that strange spark of inner life that songs have but which impressive slabs of impeccably produced musical artistry just don't. great gig, though.

i totally agree with this statement, but there are inner-life songs to be found on all rh's albums [there there is definitely one of them]. too bad some ppl don't realise this about rh. i hate it when i pay a bunch of money for a show and the crowd sucks. what did you lamers expect?

The last Radiohead gig I went to (in Edinburgh) was fucking mental. The scots love beating the shite out of each other to loud music. Or quiet music. Or no music.

highlight of my day

This almost makes me want to go see Radhed, queue early to get to the front and just scream "CREEEEEEEEEP" after every song, but the music would really annoy me. If I could turn myself on and off at will that'd be great.

i think creep should be their closer. i have no idea why they shy away from it.

They closed with Creep in Edinburgh I think.

rofl, christ, I can't believe they still play that. I mean sure, more mainstream acts will churn out their most well known song for years and years on the road, but I imagined Radhed would cut that type of shit out.

If they didn't play it in Edinburgh the crowd would have hunted them down and killed them.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO

I wouldn't play in Scotland to begin with ;)

ha ha, this is priceless. hell hath no fury like an earnest elitist self-important radiohead fan, unfortunately if you choose to play to 40,000 people you can't complain if the Neanderthal hordes - who paid £49 for their tickets too - want to hear the anthems.

I don't know if you copy/pasted your initial post from some messageboard for boneheads and are now laughing along with the rest of us, or if you're trying to explain to me the point I was making

pretty kitty cat!!

i think creep should be their closer. i have no idea why they shy away from it.

Because it is not nearly as good as the bulk of their material.

Because it is not nearly as good as the bulk of their material.

yeah but a lot of people want to hear and if you are charging a shit ton for tickets (take it other bands are worse) and playing to huge crowds it wouldn't kill them to play it.

i'm taking a friend to radiohead in indy. i'm sure i'll love it, i like all their stuff, but i honestly think a good chunk of the setlist will bore the shit out of some people. i know on ateaseweb people were bitching about how much people were talking during the show, in rainbows in particular, ala like what the original poster said.

yeah but a lot of people want to hear and if you are charging a shit ton for tickets (take it other bands are worse) and playing to huge crowds it wouldn't kill them to play it.

i'm taking a friend to radiohead in indy. i'm sure i'll love it, i like all their stuff, but i honestly think a good chunk of the setlist will bore the shit out of some people. i know on ateaseweb people were bitching about how much people were talking during the show, in rainbows in particular, ala like what the original poster said.

How many people exactly do you think go to a Radiohead concert only for Creep? Because I'm fairly sure that anyone who actually owns something other than Pablo Honey wouldn't give a flying fuck. The vast majority of fans at the show I saw this tour were not there only for the early stuff. Like Spinning Plates got the loudest cheers of the night when it began, and this was the first night they played Fake Plastic Trees.

How many people exactly do you think go to a Radiohead concert only for Creep? Because I'm fairly sure that anyone who actually owns something other than Pablo Honey wouldn't give a flying fuck. The vast majority of fans at the show I saw this tour were not there only for the early stuff. Like Spinning Plates got the loudest cheers of the night when it began, and this was the first night they played Fake Plastic Trees.

i didn't say anyone only goes to a radiohead conert only for creep. i think you are missing the point. everytime i see video of them playing it people go nuts and sing along as loud as i've heard any crowd sing to a song. i assure you it would have gotten bigger cheers than spinning plates. i'm not saying they have to play only old stuff or that people only go for old stuff. they don't play much from the bends either. i'm just saying there are certain songs that you should realize an audience would want to hear if you are playing to a large crowd. i'm sure most people in the pavillion seating wouldn't care. i bet people on the lawn talk through alot of the songs.

anyway my whole point was, to a large venue crowd creep would be a good closer. i think if they had that, PA and karma police and rotated which one they closed with it would leave a large audience consisting of both the casual fan to nut job fans happy.

i went too but i ended up shagging bat for lashes and missed rh.

i saw rh in scotland with kahlo and though the sound was great i felt the whole set was just...kindof bloated. in contrast to the relative minimalism of Deerhoof who opened and 2nd support Beck who played an entertaining (but somewhat joyless?) set i thought radiohead were really turgid. it was just like hearing the hits, one after another- when you do it like that its just so emotionally draining and after a few songs in you've got nothing left. know what i mean?

no one knows what you mean you fool!

I do however want to shag her from Bat for Lashes. I was really happy they where chosen as support - saw them last year and they where rather awesome.

unf, i'd bat her lashes, nahmsayin

out in the woods

by a lake in the pale moonlight

thats gay

He is alluding to their overly melodramatic lyrics

Also she is slightly fugly.

Also she is slightly fugly.

racist

i love girls who look like they could eat you alive.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/buzzbands/images/2007/10/08/batforlashes.jpg

overly melodramatic

this is Isle in a nutshell

life's more interesting that way.

life should be like a kate Bush video

they were pure joy all 4 times i have seen them. can't wait for lolla, though i'm not sure if it can beat the Dallas show last month due to the shorter length.....but we'll see. lolla can be a great atmosphere for a show, and i'll be there with a massive group of friends....which counts for a lot.

anyway, i assume one of you guys is going to get the new FROM THE BASEMENT videos from itunes today? I really want to see a rip of these because of this statement: "the videos represent the best recorded representation of Radiohead's live performance to date. "

RADIOHEAD IN RAINBOWS FROM THE BASEMENT

Exclusive Live Videos Set Available on iTunes June 24th
Radiohead are releasing ten live performance videos recorded at The
Hospital studio in Covent Garden, with the team from the band's
longtime producer Nigel Godrich's 'From the Basement' TV show
(http://www.fromthebasement.tv/).

The collection will debut exclusively through iTunes beginning today,
June 24th. The videos feature live renditions of songs from 'In
Rainbows' and its bonus CD included in its deluxe discbox edition.
The full track listing of video performances is:
.
Bodysnatchers
House of Cards
Nude
Weird Fishes/Arpeggi
15 Step
Reckoner
Go Slowly
Videotape
Bangers & Mash
All I Need

Captured in a day, with direction by David Barnard and sound by Nigel
Godrich, the videos represent the best recorded representation of
Radiohead's live performance to date.

it's not just because they're older songs and not just because they're more conventional (paranoid android is as structurally unusual as anything they've done) it's because, dammit, they're SONGS with that strange spark of inner life
it's because they were released in a simpler time when radiohead made songs we could believe in, when the media loved radiohead not for being intellectual but for being soulful, life-bringing, affirming even in the face of postmodern bleakness. it's because the average man doesn't want to hear about the coming ice age. the strange spark of inner life, you know about that huh? scientists have it cornered in a room 2km beneath the pentagon. great post, though

[QUOTE=wounded;3281344]i didn't say anyone only goes to a radiohead conert only for creep. i think you are missing the point. everytime i see video of them playing it people go nuts and sing along as loud as i've heard any crowd sing to a song. i assure you it would have gotten bigger cheers than spinning plates. QUOTE]


That is a load of fucking offensive bullshit – you clearly have no insight into or knowledge of the questing mindset of a Radiohead fan. When I saw them at Grandmerde amphitheatre in the south of France in 2004 they encored with Skttbrain, Pulk/Pull Revolvng Doors and Treefingers – my all time three favourite Radiohead songs! - and the crowd went fucking NUTS and then they played Skttbrain again, but acoustic, and Johnny did this crazy thing where he rubbed cheesewire up and down his guitar strings and everyone was screaming so loud we probably did structural damage to the fucking amphitheatre! Trust me if they’d played any safe, lame shit like Street Spirit or Creep after that everyone would’ve just walked out in disgust.

[QUOTE=wounded;3281344]i didn't say anyone only goes to a radiohead conert only for creep. i think you are missing the point. everytime i see video of them playing it people go nuts and sing along as loud as i've heard any crowd sing to a song. i assure you it would have gotten bigger cheers than spinning plates. QUOTE]


That is a load of fucking offensive bullshit – you clearly have no insight into or knowledge of the questing mindset of a Radiohead fan. When I saw them at Grandmerde amphitheatre in the south of France in 2004 they encored with Skttbrain, Pulk/Pull Revolvng Doors and Treefingers – my all time three favourite Radiohead songs! - and the crowd went fucking NUTS and then they played Skttbrain again, but acoustic, and Johnny did this crazy thing where he rubbed cheesewire up and down his guitar strings and everyone was screaming so loud we probably did structural damage to the fucking amphitheatre! Trust me if they’d played any safe, lame shit like Street Spirit or Creep after that everyone would’ve just walked out in disgust.


i highly doubt everyone would have walked out in disgust. they all would have sang along.

why is street spirit lame? that's offesnive! i'm going to go out on a limb and say you didn't become a radiohead fan until Kid A? probably the most nuts i've heard an audience go is when radiohead played oxoford a few years back and busted out creep for the first time if ages.

anyway i'm talking about american audiences. you are talking about european audiences, so that is a big difference there. now i love radiohead, they can play whatever they want i will like it. my whole point is creep would be a good song to close with. i get the impression that you feel that if you like creep you are not a "real" radiohead fan. in america, it would get a big reaction. you have to know your audience. an audience in london will be a little different than an audience in indianapolis, indiana USA.

don't get yourself worked up over a little song you don't like. it's by far their most famous song, i really don't think it would be that offensive if they closed with it.

oh yeah everything in it's right place would be a good closer song too.

this is a pretty good set the played in scotland

01 15 Step
02 Airbag
03 There There
04 All I Need
05 Nude
06 Arpeggi/Weird Fishes
07 The Gloaming
08 The National Anthem with Hunting Bears outro
09 Faust Arp
10 No Surprises (Thom: “There was a guy showing me his nipples in that one”)
11 Jigsaw Falling Into Place
12 Reckoner
13 Just
14 Bangers and Mash
15 Everything In Its Right Place
16 Fake Plastic Trees
17 Bodysnatchers

Encore 1
18 Videotape
19 Paranoid Android
20 Myxomatosis
21 Optimistic
22 Karma Police

Encore 2
23 Like Spinning Plates
24 2 + 2 = 5
25 Idioteque

sorry, wounded, my post was a facetious and long-winded way of saying I agree with your analysis 100% that audiences at Radiohead's big shows want to hear Creep more than Spinning Plates.

Maybe at a festival there are a lot of "casual fans" but at a regular show I just don't see it. The show I saw was a fucking nightmare, it poured harder than I have ever seen it pour in my life. I kept looking back at the lawn expecting to see fewer and fewer people holding out, but they just fucking stood there in the downpour for 3 hours. That is not a casual fan. Does Radiohead even have casual fans? The only singles that people casually know in the US are Creep, and maybe at a stretch Paranoid Android. My point is just that I think you guys overestimate presence of Creep fans at a non-festival show.

uh they closed with EIIRP on like every night of the Hail to the Thief tour

yeah i thought EIIRP worked well on that tour as a closer. anyway, yes radiohead has their share of hardcore fans and i will admit that if they don't play creep i doubt everyone will walk away being disappointed, sorry if that is the impression i gave redbreegull. BUT if they did play it i think the audience would enjoy it.

if i were radiohead i would have tried to at least reinvent my biggest hit song over the last 15-odd years

i'm a CREPE

Saw Radiohead last night and it was pretty amazing. It rained the entire time (it was at Glasgow Green) sometimes pretty heavily. If anything it added to the atmosphere of the show. Seeing 15-20,000 off Glaswegians dancing in the rain to Everything In its Right Place was amazing. It was like one long singalong - I must admit that the "rain down segment in Paranoid Android was cheesy with everyone with their arms in the air staring upwards...

Anyway, 2 hour set and no Creep. Don't think anyone left unsatisfied.

would rather hear lurgee please.

I wouldn't trade a single song on the set list we got in Virginia for Creep. I'm not a hardliner for post Ok Computer material either, my favorite is The Bends. I'm not above listening to Pablo Honey once in awhile either, I really enjoy it on occasion. I just don't really think the vast majority of the people at a Radiohead show would care. Everyone went apeshit when they pulled out Planet Telex, Just, and Fake Plastic Trees, but I think it's more because they are oldies than because most people consider them superior to anything else... the same way a Pumpkins crowd cheers louder for Hummer than for To Sheila. But like I said, for whatever reason, the opening piano in Like Spinning Plates was met with thunderous applause and ridiculous screaming way beyond any reaction to any other song.

Kid A/Amnesiac material was well recieved in Glasgow. I'm glad that they don't feel the need to play Creep, Street Spirit etc

They played Bangers and Mash as well, which I hadn't heard live before. Weird song.

i'm feeling somewhat jealous. would love to see this band live. just tonight at a party someone played paranoid android and my friend and i started reminiscing about how much we went apeshit over ok computer when it first came out. like redbreegull, i'm a bigger fan of the bends than post ok computer stuff, but really i fucking love it all. glad you had a nice time :)

If you like pre-ok computer stuff more than newer stuff, then you aren't a Radiohead fan at all. Thom hates you

If you like pre-ok computer stuff more than newer stuff, then you aren't a Radiohead fan at all. Thom hates you

Not as much as the troo fans.

thom can suck it. !!!

According to the sex thread, you'd be better doing that to him.

he would definitely enjoy it.

lies. he enjoys nothing!!

good point

Germany just got beat *hold me* :(

i'd kill to hear Street Spirit live for th erecord