and i was like "whoa, all these songs are just about being gay"

especially the first album.

I fucking hate the Smiths

i dont like morrissey.

and he can stick that in his pipe and be entirely asocial about it

I thought Morrissey said in an interview that he wasn't gay

he's said he's asexual. he's said he's gay. i recently heard a rumor or some possibility existence of a quote of him saying he was straight recently. who knows. i think he hates bi's tho. he wants it raw with his vespas and shit.

Well I also read a quote where someone from The Smiths (I think Johnny Marr) says he's had many girlfriends and many boyfriends. If that's the case, bi.

which actually makes perfect sense.

cause you're gay and you understand things like this?

you're the therapist, right? the return missionary in denial of his desire of cock? yes, i can understand this because i'm gay. insight. my gayness gives me insight into a gay world of gay thoughts.

"the sun shines out of our behinds" yeah...just a little gay. i do love the smiths though.

some of the songs involve homosexuality, yeah

I fucking hate the Smiths

name me a better band from the 1980s.

uhh

i do love the smiths though.
^
just a little gay

Hand in glove
the sun shines out of our behinds

No it's NOT like any other love
this one's different
because it's us!

name me a better band from the 1980s.

they are def. a contender for best band of the 80s. there's really no one i've heard that can compare, however i can't listen to them for long periods of time w/o getting in a sour mood, fsr. i have a much higher tolerance for cocteau twins, talking heads, sonic youth, the cure, dm, jd/no, inxs, u2, the police, pixies [who btw released as many records in the 80s as the police did], MBV, REM, def leppard, duran duran, and so on...doesn't mean any of those bands are better necessarily. CT/SY are probably my favs though

The Smiths pretty much typify 80's music, imo.

I want to win the lottery, so I can buy rare, limited edition vinyl presses of Smiths albums and then hurl them at people and objects with immense force.

Some seem to suggest it, I wouldn't say most though. Listen to more, great band.

I think they're kind of overrated

not overrated at all. consistently incredible band.

great lyrics (if M's droney vocals can get a bit tedious)

incomparably brilliant guitar playing (johnny marr is NOT overrated, serious contender for best famous guitar player ever- and he never played a damn solo)

awesome basslines

best drummer of any 80s band

+ major cultural relevance

= greatness

Marr is pretty fucking cool, I'll give you that.

The Smiths pretty much typify 80's music, imo.

really? whenever i hear hand in glove or how soon is now I'm struck by how little they sound like anyone before or since.

really? whenever i hear hand in glove or how soon is now I'm struck by how little they sound like anyone before or since.

well done for naming 2 songs


jangly, gay, danceable, poppy. can you get anymore 80's?

i like them alot, for the record

not overrated at all. consistently incredible band.

great lyrics (if M's droney vocals can get a bit tedious)

incomparably brilliant guitar playing (johnny marr is NOT overrated, serious contender for best famous guitar player ever- and he never played a damn solo)

awesome basslines

best drummer of any 80s band

+ major cultural relevance

= greatness

I'd agree with this.

Obviously Morrissey and Marr get all the hype, but their rhythm section is incredible.

Marr is an incredible rhythm player, certainly in my top 3 of all time.

well done for naming 2 songs




relax, i wasn't trying to catch you out or be a smart arse, i just disagree with you. mabye with hindsight they sound like other 80s bands that came later (but i think those similarities are superficial, for every "jangly" song there is something tougher and darker, a Miserable Lie, a Handsome Devil, a What She Said etc... ) but when the Smith emerged synth pop like the Human League, Duran Duran etc.. ruled and in that context the Smiths sounded and looked like they came from Mars.

name me a better band from the 1980s.

menudo
stryper
pretty much every other band

menudo
stryper
pretty much every other band

lol

all these songs are just about being gay

Not true.
Some of the songs have a very obvious tinge of that,
but i think Morrissey was just trying to be evocative,
and i think he used homosexuality as a metaphor.
i think they are all about being someone strange and unrelatable to most other people.

Who remembers when we had the thread The Cure vs. The Smiths and it was fucking long as shit

The Smiths are better than The Cure. easily. and i like The Cure. The Smiths are just way more consistent.

Who remembers when we had the thread The Cure vs. The Smiths and it was fucking long as shit

I love the Cure but I've never met anyone over 16 with a functioning brain who thought they were better than the Smiths.

The Smiths pretty much typify 80's music, imo.

well i strongly disagree with this

I love the Cure but I've never met anyone over 16 with a functioning brain who thought they were better than the Smiths.

depends what you mean by 'functioning', but i've listened to the cure much much more than i have the smiths. there's just sth about the cure where i get into these grooves where they're all i want to hear. they have more to offer as far as quantity, obviously, since all bob does is get new ppl every few years and call it the same name, but also there's great variety in their albums, musically, emotionally, in every way.