the cure - disintegration
daft punk - homework
led zeppelin - physical graffiti

sonic youth - dirty

Length isn't an issue for me unless individual songs have segments that are too long :0

this is a long drive for someone with nothing to think about

Exile on Main Street

yo la tengo - i can hear the heart beating as one

^^ thats a good one

i dont think Dirty is too long, the tracks at the back-end of the record are the better ones (JC, Chapel Hill etc).

my morning jacket - it still moves

yeah 'One In The Same' drags on

The Verve - A Nothern Soul
Gorillaz - Gorillaz
The Dandy Warhols - Come Down

pink moon

Siamese Dream

Machina
Hail to the Thief
Discovery (I love the album but it could afford to lose a couple of tracks, particularly Too Long... which is indeed.... too long).
The Fragile (Again I really like NIN, easily one of my favourite artists and the Fragile is chock full of great songs but as a double CD I find it drags a bit particularly compared to say MCIS).

Hail to the Thief


SP - Adore

Every Stereolab album ever.

Zeitgeist. drags about around Neverlost... maybe it's not too long-- it could be the sequencing.

Zeitgeist. drags about around Neverlost... maybe it's not too long-- it could be the sequencing.

quoted for archival purposes

Zeitgeist. drags about around Neverlost... maybe it's not too long-- it could be the sequencing.

It says 'good' albums, doofus.

SP - Adore

Every Stereolab album ever.

Just out of curiosity, what would you cut from Adore? And would you add anything to make it flow better?

I would cut Once Upon a Time and Dusty + Pistol Pete

just throw out shame and its perfect

just throw out shame and its perfect

wtf

seriously fuck that song

If I had to choose, I would so get rid of Daphne Descends.

Gorillaz - Gorillaz

definitely

Pink Moon? What?

:eek: But Daphne Descends is great, its so organic and has so much energy (for me at least).
As for Shame, I didn't particularly like it until I read Billy's online journal entry thing about writing it. Couldn't be bothered to explain but I imagine them recording it the way he described it and it completely made the song for me. Not to mention the 2007 live versions are kick ass.
The song that has always bugged me on Adore is Once Upon A Time. It is the only song I skip, it just doesn't feel emotional in what should be an emotional song.

Pink Moon? What?

kidding

though i'm not big on Free Ride

bob dylan - blonde on blonde

yeah let the flaming start but theres too much middle filler on this album if you ask me

this is a long drive for someone with nothing to think aboutthis is a good one. also Lonesome CVrowded West

I don't really mind the length of Adore, but if I had to cut material I think it would be Perfect, Appels and Oranjes, and Tale of Dusty.

I don't really mind the length of Adore, but if I had to cut material I think it would be Perfect, Appels and Oranjes, and Tale of Dusty.

well I just had posted my version of Adore in the Adore 10 year thread, here it is:

An annual re-sequencing of Adore:

1. To Sheila
2. Behold! The Nightmare
3. Perfect
4. Daphne Descends
5. Annie-Dog
6. Tear
7. Shame
8. For Martha
9. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
10. Blissed and Gone
11. Blank Page


With Ava Adore being a separate single with Pug. No need for Crestfallen with Tear on there, Once Upon a Time can fuck off.

leave this shit on the SP board

redbull, what would you remove from disintegration?

redbull, what would you remove from disintegration?

Homesick + Untitled

homesick wasn't even on the original release, which makes its inclusion even more infuriating. untitled is cool.

bloodsugarsexmagik and stankonia

bob dylan - blonde on blonde

yeah let the flaming start but theres too much middle filler on this album if you ask me

i came back here to post this

I've always thought the same, they come off as unnecessary - a nice segway into bloodflowers, but that was also unnecessary

The song that has always bugged me on Adore is Once Upon A Time. It is the only song I skip, it just doesn't feel emotional in what should be an emotional song.

This song is the one constant tear jerker... along with For Martha. Have a cherished parent die and then come back.

well I just had posted my version of Adore in the Adore 10 year thread, here it is:

I don't usually digest other people's playlists... but this one seems really solid!

Oh God damnit, and I would definitely take Annie Dog off Adore. I forgot that one. It's my least favorite.

Oh God damnit, and I would definitely take Annie Dog off Adore. I forgot that one. It's my least favorite.


General talk about music and the music industry other than the Pumpkins.

JESUS CHRIST WHY DO I GOTTA FLASH THE BADGE AROUND HERE! MONTE KEEPS ME BUSY ENOUGH!

Slayer's God Hate Us All. it's the only album of theirs i enjoy and it just seems to start to blend together near the latter half. they should've just made it ten tracks. i imagine someone'll talk shit because i mentioned Slayer. i don't really care.

This song is the one constant tear jerker... along with For Martha. Have a cherished parent die and then come back.

Its not the lyrical content that makes it seem unemotional for me, more his voice and the production.
For Martha on the other hand I find very emtional.

JESUS CHRIST WHY DO I GOTTA FLASH THE BADGE AROUND HERE! MONTE KEEPS ME BUSY ENOUGH!

Is it really that big a deal? Really? Seriously? You seriously feel the need to enforce that rule even though the conversation naturally went to where it went. Seriously? What the hell is wrong with you?

Slayer's God Hate Us All. it's the only album of theirs i enjoy and it just seems to start to blend together near the latter half. they should've just made it ten tracks. i imagine someone'll talk shit because i mentioned Slayer. i don't really care.

it's like 28 minutes...?!

bob dylan - blonde on blonde

yeah let the flaming start but theres too much middle filler on this album if you ask me

uhh...no

i can't think of an album that's both 'good' and 'too long', that wouldn't seem possible really.
if there's anything wrong with sp albums it's that they're never long enough. zg doesn't count though

The fragile. The second disc makes it seem to drag if it were one disc the album would be a perfect 10 for me.

JESUS CHRIST WHY DO I GOTTA FLASH THE BADGE AROUND HERE! MONTE KEEPS ME BUSY ENOUGH!

Maybe you should check your own first...

Is it really that big a deal? Really? Seriously? You seriously feel the need to enforce that rule even though the conversation naturally went to where it went. Seriously? What the hell is wrong with you?

i dont think anyone has taken that troll seriously until you, congratulations

http://www.prato.linux.it/~lmasetti/antiwarsongs/img/upl/sandinista.jpg

uhh...no

i can't think of an album that's both 'good' and 'too long', that wouldn't seem possible really.
if there's anything wrong with sp albums it's that they're never long enough. zg doesn't count though

I agree with this guy. If an album is too long, then you couldn't think it's good. Unless the question is asking to name albums that would be a lot better if they were a bit shorter. In that case:

Physical Graffiti
Machina
Are You Experienced?
Ten
Good New For People Who Love Bad News

Just off the top of my head.

the minutemen - double niggers on the dime

yo la tengo - i can hear the heart beating as one

Oh wow, I think ICHtHBaO is a masterpiece from start to finish. If I was going to pick a YLT album that is too long it would have to be And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out, only because "Night Falls On Hoboken" doesn't really need to be 17 minutes!

Unless the question is asking to name albums that would be a lot better if they were a bit shorter. I

obviously that's what we're talking about. I absolutely love Exile on Main St. but I think it would be better if they took a few tracks out.

^^ thats a good one

i dont think Dirty is too long, the tracks at the back-end of the record are the better ones (JC, Chapel Hill etc).

JC is one of the most amazing SY songs and it goes so unappreciated.

Lonesome Crowded West

JC is one of the most amazing SY songs and it goes so unappreciated.

don't you ever call me mom!

Lonesome Crowded West

gufaw!

JC is one of the most amazing SY songs and it goes so unappreciated.

kudos

"Night Falls On Hoboken" doesn't really need to be 17 minutes!

It sure does.

i dont think Dirty is too long, the tracks at the back-end of the record are the better ones (JC, Chapel Hill etc).

the last few tracks are definitely better, it's just the shit in the middle that get's in the way

and yes, JC is awesome

i kind of agree about blonde on blonde.


others that are a tad too long.

frances the mute could definitely use some good editing.

The Fragile

new adventures in hi fi
superunknown
ill communication

i wish it was 1996

The Wall

The Wall

fuck you Andy!

well what would you take out?

dude, c'mon. I love it, but shit's bloated.

I'm just surprised that you said this

I'd take out Empty Spaces, One Of My Turns, Vera, Bring Teh Boys, Show Must Go On and Outside The Wall.

I've always felt the album should've just ended with the wall crumbling. Maybe if Outside The Wall was anywhere in quality that Eclipse is, I'd feel differently, but it's not. Vera/Bring The Boys are really unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. The others are little more difficult to "cut", but I wouldn't say they are absolutely essential to the narrative, either. Coincidentally, the music on those tracks seems lacking as well.

I really think you can tell on this album when the band was focused and believed in a track (well as focused as they could be at that point) and when they weren't. The ones I listed are the weakest parts, IMO, and are the ones where you can tell that only Roger gave a shit about.

I'd take out Empty Spaces, One Of My Turns, Vera, Bring Teh Boys, Show Must Go On and Outside The Wall.

I've always felt the album should've just ended with the wall crumbling. Maybe if Outside The Wall was anywhere in quality that Eclipse is, I'd feel differently, but it's not. Vera/Bring The Boys are really unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. The others are little more difficult to "cut", but I wouldn't say they are absolutely essential to the narrative, either. Coincidentally, the music on those tracks seems lacking as well.

I really think you can tell on this album when the band was focused and believed in a track (well as focused as they could be at that point) and when they weren't. The ones I listed are the weakest parts, IMO, and are the ones where you can tell that only Roger gave a shit about.

OK I agree that Empty Spaces, Show Must Go On, and Outside the Wall could be axed and I definitely agree that they should have ended with the wall falling. But I do like the begining/end loop which I think shows that even though Pink had this big revelation, he's always going to be reliving this inner battle.

I absolutely love Vera and always thought this song was pure genius. I think it of it as Pink sitting there desperate and dreaming of somebody who cares for him and the person he thinks of is a singer from his childhood who in his delusional mind begins to feel is real to him. Waters sounds great in that song too no?

And I isn't Bring Back Teh Boyz was a pivotal part of the story where he finally begins to become less self absorbed and begins to feel compassion for others? I thought this song showed that he was about to have a self discovery and tear down his wall but right at that moment the greedy managers come in and drag him to the stage. Maybe they could have made this part sound better though.

I agree that you can hear parts where the band wasn't really included but who knows if that was really Waters fault or their's. I think the songs you listed are are all great parts to Water's story but maybe they would have been better if Gilrmore and friends wanted to be involved more and could have swallowed some pride...who knows.

I know Roger swears by the inclusion of Vera/BTBBH, but I've just never seen how they are so important to the album that they needed to be full blown tracks. The same points could have been made using the background shit that goes on throught the record and taken up far less space. I do love Vera, though- you're right, Waters does sing some of his best stuff on that track. It was cool to have those tracks played as an intro to CN at the RW show I saw last year.

MCIS, The Fragile, The Wall.

In other words, double albums that should've been single IMO. Maybe not so much the last one, but it does start to get a bit boring towards the end.

Gorillaz - Gorillaz
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SP - Adore
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this is a good one. also Lonesome CVrowded West

:mad:

stankonia
totally

Lonesome Crowded West
:mad:

Rollercoaster by the Red House Painters.

I really love the album, I love the feel and many of the songs, but it's just too long for the type of music it is. The last like, third of the album always kinds of blends together into this meloncholy, droning pit of depression. I can't take it in just one sitting.

Btw I saw Kozelek solo a week or so ago, he totally blew my mind. The setlist was fantastic, Summer Dress, Katy Song, Carry Me Ohio, Duk Doo Kim, Moorsetown, Lost Verses, etc. etc.

you guys know there is a PAUSE and a STOP button on most players? SHIT I CANT STOP IT PLAYING, ITS SO GOOD BUT ITS SO LONG! OH NO!

i'd probably agree w/ the fragile [tho i havent listened in a while]
but then some say it's the best nin album. it's like the polar opposite of broken which is my fav..and yes it is an album, and the last 2 tracks fit just fine contrary to popular i guess belief

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:mad:Long Distance Drunk, Out of Gas, Polar Opposites are all pretty unremarkabnle.

broken which is my fav..and yes it is an album, and the last 2 tracks fit just fine contrary to popular i guess belief

I'm exactly the same, except that it's only 31 minutes long and I always have to delete 'Physical' because it's shit.

Long Distance Drunk, Out of Gas, Polar Opposites are all pretty unremarkabnle.

really?

I love the 1.5 drumming on long distance drunk and polar opposites is pretty good

I'm starting to hate this thread

stone roses second coming

The Verve thread just reminded me of Urban Hymns. I'd get rid of Sonnet, The Drugs Don't Work, Space and Time, and Lucky Man. They don't really fit with the psychedellic rock vibe and mellow trippiness of the rest of the album imo. They just scream "this is where Ashcroft starts to become a boring wanker". Lucky Man's not too bad I guess, I think I'm biased by it being so fucking overplayed.

I'm exactly the same, except that it's only 31 minutes long and I always have to delete 'Physical' because it's shit.

is not :p

Boys for Pele.

All the songs are great, but my goodness... I like to listen to an album all the way through when I can, and I don't know if I've sat through this more than one or two times.

American Doll Posse is long, too, but I like the songs better. Boys for Pele has the best and the worst songs from the two. Nothing on American Doll Posse is too boring to me.

Adore is fine the way it is

Entroducing is not long enough

Long Distance Drunk, Out of Gas, Polar Opposites are all pretty unremarkabnle.

weird, i wouldn't leave those off the record

jesus christ was an only child is the only real low point for me

but yeah, i've said this before, modest mouse has always released albums that are too long