Diagnose each member of the band with some mental disorders, and give good reasons why.

Billy Corgan: borderline personality disorder

DSM-IV-TR criteria ( I looked it up on wiki):
1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. [Not including suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5]
2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4. Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). [Again, not including suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5]
5. Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats, or self-mutilating behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars, or picking at oneself.
6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
7. Chronic feelings of emptiness, worthlessness.
8. Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms





my diagnosis is for billy to self mediciate with tons of drugs and start writing some off the wall shit.


:erm:

all i know is that travis meeks his a horrible mod. i mean, i've seen some shitty mods around here but this guy takes the shitty cake. fuck him.

YOU HEAR ME MOTHERFUCKER FUCK YOU

he's not off his rocker. its hard living with your head in the clouds and your feet on the ground, man. he does what he has to do to keep his idealised image intact, because it feeds so deeply into his normal persona and defines his work. if he was any less of a control freak, i don't think the pumpkins would have ever worked as a band or come across to us like they did.

I just realized we still have a SP board.

while he's not as batty as, say, syd barrett was... i do think he's pretty looney tunes. sometimes it works in his favor.

isn't this every thread?

Oh noes. It's the psych talk again! Someone was introduced to the DSM-IV! What's up with SP fans and psych talk? 'Birds of a feather flock together' or some shit?

You can't prescribe drugs for Billy anyway, Bardy. You don't have your doctorate in medicine. :D
(If I had it all to do over again, I might have gone the pre-med route for this! But alas I have a limited time frame and a doctorate in psychology seems the only possibility if I continue on that route...)

On a serious note (although I know this is just in fun) I think alot of these "clinical" diagnoses are slippery as soap. Because, well...they're clinical. Anything to do with the mental sciences can be very slippery in that way...because the actual physiology behind much of it isn't even particularly clear yet. (It's not like we can take a depressive, scan their brain--while living--to microscopic resolution, and then find their "problems" must be arising from the fact they seem to have a patch of several atrophied 5-HT1A receptors on the left side of their locus ceruleus...) They're just constellations of various behavioral symptomatology.

Oh noes. It's the psych talk again! Someone was introduced to the DSM-IV! What's up with SP fans and psych talk? 'Birds of a feather flock together' or some shit?

You can't prescribe drugs for Billy anyway, Bardy. You don't have your doctorate in medicine. :D
(If I had it all to do over again, I might have gone the pre-med route for this! But alas I have a limited time frame and a doctorate in psychology seems the only possibility if I continue on that route...)

On a serious note (although I know this is just in fun) I think alot of these "clinical" diagnoses are slippery as soap. Because, well...they're clinical. Anything to do with the mental sciences can be very slippery in that way...because the actual physiology behind much of it isn't even particularly clear yet. (It's not like we can take a depressive, scan their brain--while living--to microscopic resolution, and then find their "problems" must be arising from the fact they seem to have a patch of several atrophied 5-HT1A receptors on the left side of their locus ceruleus...) They're just constellations of various behavioral symptomatology.


Normally I could really give a crap about this sort of thing, but people who venture to discuss brain stem physiology and function should really know that "alot" is two words.

James Iha: Being An Asshole

1. He's a gook

Normally I could really give a crap about this sort of thing, but people who venture to discuss brain stem physiology and function should really know that "alot" is two words.

Here's how I imagine Playback's thought process in making this post:

"hmm. this stumpycat character seems to be somewhat intelligent. I'd better bring her down a notch by pointing out that she misspelled a word; a misspelling that most of the idiots around here wouldn't pick up on anyway, seeing as <i>a lot</i> of people spell it that way. This will be sure to make me seem EVEN MORE intelligent, without having to use a fraction of the brain power!"

bravo, playback, bravo!

I don't know I'm going with Playback on this one... people who spell 'a lot' as 'alot' are usually borderline retarded

uh-huh. yes. i'm sure you're correct. :erm:

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listen, it's an inane saying no matter how you cut it. a lot. so lame. we should all take our things and our stuff out of the lot and lay some sod, maybe start a garden.

to beauty. to health. to life.

Ok tcm. I was just defending stumpycat's honor. alot, a lot, I couldn't care less.

but a garden, that would be nice. I'd like some tomatoes. A Lot of them.

to life.


Lechaim!

Seriously, there's alot of nothing going on in this thread.

and how.

skipgo: 4
everyone else: not as much
blah blah blah neglecting blah blah

:D

If Billy self-medicated to Syd Barretism, at least we'd be moving more in the Adore/MCIS direction than Sheitgeist/RTB.

my diagnosis is for billy to self mediciate with tons of drugs and start writing some off the wall shit.


:erm:


that is a terrible recommendation

he's fine. he just needs to work on balancing his energies and centering himself, like all of us. plus he is extremely talented, which can be expressed and channeled optimally without drugs or things that are unhealthy for him. :)

my diagnosis is for billy to self mediciate with tons of drugs and start writing some off the wall shit.



Scott Weiland

Let's not forget Brian Wilson...now he's one mentally disturbed (but obviously very talented) motherfucker! I think Billy might be somewhat grounded compared to him. Perhaps Billy hit that low in late 1992, but at least he didn't stay there for years.

Normally I could really give a crap about this sort of thing, but people who venture to discuss brain stem physiology and function should really know that "alot" is two words.

C'mon now...I normally control for spelling and grammatical errors within my posts. I'm not a bad writer but there is a reason why I would have been bored shitless studying English. "A lot" is particularly easy to overlook...especially when those who are supposedly "in the know" continuously forget to point out the mistake themselves. (At least it's not "irregardless"...I've heard quite a few otherwise perfectly intelligent people use that one with shocking frequency.) Besides, these aforementioned people who study brain function...they may be able to spell words that require every letter of the damned alphabet but boy can they fuck up the spelling of "regular" words! I'll bet everyone has had at least one instructor like that.