There's been tons and tons of all kinds of evidence against this 'church', but no-one seems to care, and it's spreading all over the world like cancer.

I'm seriously confused. Can anyone explain this?


By the way - I decided to check out those 'worldwide' protests on May 10th. I wonder how many people will show up in Austria - five, six maybe? It's still considered a dangerous cult here [as well as in Germany]. Hm.

not enough hard evidence to convict anyone of anything

are they breaking laws?

Shoot.

And yes, if you read the testimonies of ex-members, they indeed are. Though that might be hard to proof.

what laws?

Anyway, did you know that the average person uses only 10% of their mental capacity?

how can someone really measure/know that?

what laws?

Well... child labor, for example?
At least according to this site: http://www.exscientologykids.com

how can someone really measure/know that?

Apparently you've never seen their pamphlets.

child labor laws are silly and outdated

i find this thread frustratingly low on facts and concrete examples

Yeah, me too - but that's why I asked the question in the first place, to get facts. If there's no evidence, well, then you can't do anything anyway.
But fuck, stupidity should be a crime.

Nevermind, move along.

child labor laws are silly and outdated

if this were a jczeroman post i really wouldn't be able to tell if it's ironic

http://www.crucialminutiae.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/mugatu0jf.gif

People can believe what they want. Not my business if society isn't harmed by it.

if society isn't harmed by it.

uhhh i think the point is that it is. supposedly.

Yeah, though this is actually not about believe - I don't care if some people buy that Xenu crap.
Do you know what they are willing to do to "Supressive Persons"?

We aren't doing anything about it because people can believe whatever nonsense they want.

and child labor laws are silly and outdated

Yeah, the free market will make sure children are treated correctly eventually.

we shouldve let it play out the first time 'round.

kill every scientologist motherfucker you meet

tom cruise's baby is pretty cute tho

supposedly.

That's MY point.

Yeah, the free market will make sure children are treated correctly eventually.

Nobody can make sure all children are treated correctly. Or is there some law or government intervention that got rid of child abuse that no one told me about?

That's MY point.

well it seems as though it should be checked out

I am sure all the accusations of Scientology are made by insane Christian fundamentalists. Just let them accuse each other and get angrier until they wage a holy war and kill themselves off.

i find this thread frustratingly low on facts and concrete examples

supposedly they've blackmailed people to the point where they kill themselves, held people against their will, sometimes resulting in their deaths, denied people medical treatment (they have their own doctors), also resulting in death. their general M.O. is very cult-like - extremely secretive, manipulative, and money-driven.

thanks bardy. i will use those lyrics for my rock band.

<img src="http://a49.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/75/l_979ff99f4ec8d1df03d6f673f58a7530.jpg">

we cant deny people the right to join cults

http://www.crucialminutiae.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/mugatu0jf.gif

"you will learn martial arts!"

I am sure all the accusations of Scientology are made by insane Christian fundamentalists. Just let them accuse each other and get angrier until they wage a holy war and kill themselves off.

Most of the accusations come from ex-members.

why cant ex-members be christian fundamentalists

check out the scientology orientation film.

scientology is pretty fucking awesome

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..ly funny.

Scientology training demo

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steven fishman interview. all you need to know about scientology (i.e. that they're fucking nuts)

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it's also hilarious

Quote from Wikipedia:
<i>Fishman told the court that he had committed crimes on behalf of the Church. He also attested that he was assigned to murder his psychologist, Dr. Uwe Geertz, and then commit suicide.<sup id="cite_ref-greed_1-0" class="reference">[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Fishman#cite_note-greed-1)</sup><sup id="cite_ref-doublecrossed_2-0" class="reference">[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Fishman#cite_note-doublecrossed-2)</sup></i>

In reality, you can't enact laws banning scientology. It's a constitutional right. Besides, you shouldn't need laws against it, only merciless ridicule under the shine of rational thought is what is required and deserved. Pretty much the same goes for all religions.

it would be nice however if scientology loses it's tax exempt status...as well as all other fairy tale nonsense schools.