View Full Version : Billy Corgan v. Billy Howerdel


Pretzel Logic
04-01-2008, 09:05 PM
I don't know guys. Ashes Divide sounds very promising.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MfbQSi6_8RY
(I didn't embed because it's disabled)

and yeah the concept of the video isn't that great, but the song is fantastic.

junipertots
04-01-2008, 09:14 PM
I am curious to see what the rest of the album will be like. I like the single, but he's not nearly as creative as mr. Corgan.

cork_soaker
04-01-2008, 09:19 PM
punktorian

cork_soaker
04-01-2008, 09:21 PM
both vids (walking shade and the ashes divide one) were directed by PR Brown

edit: also "that's the way" and "tarantula"

http://stgott.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/corganbrown.jpg

Floppy Nono
04-01-2008, 09:23 PM
yeah, guess who he saved the cooler video for? i like it so far but it sounds like APC

Floppy Nono
04-01-2008, 09:26 PM
oh yeah, and his voice sucks. Talk about generic :erm:

Eulogy
04-01-2008, 09:27 PM
yeah, guess who he saved the cooler video for? i like it so far but it sounds like APC

well no shit

Eulogy
04-01-2008, 09:29 PM
i can't help but imagine maynard singing this tune. :-/

i still like it though i think. why is this on the pumpkins board?

Floppy Nono
04-01-2008, 09:30 PM
i can't help but imagine maynard singing this tune. :-/

i still like it though i think. why is this on the pumpkins board?

you know, i thought they exact same thing. the vocal patterns seemed distinctly maynard to me but his voice....*yawn*

cork_soaker
04-01-2008, 09:38 PM
also, fuck billy howerdel anyway

somaziro
04-01-2008, 09:53 PM
sounds like filter

wHATcOLOR
04-02-2008, 03:00 AM
sounds like a song for teenagers

wHATcOLOR
04-02-2008, 03:18 AM
that

rolmos
04-02-2008, 04:51 AM
Billy Joel vs. Billy Corgan, anyone?

Kahlo
04-02-2008, 05:20 AM
why is this on the sp forum?

Boots Electric
04-02-2008, 09:15 AM
Some of Howerdel's guitar work with APC was awesome but this is a significant downgrade. I thought for sure he was going to take the female singer route and tone things down a bit like he had originally intended with APC--this is just nu-metal bullshit.

cardiac
04-02-2008, 09:21 AM
I'm not a big fan. I liked a handful of APC songs, but this just sounds incredibly safe and dull to my ears.

Cool As Ice Cream
04-02-2008, 09:22 AM
LOL WHO IS BILLY POWERDELL?

Kahlo
04-02-2008, 09:29 AM
he was the pumpkins guitar tech

T&T
04-02-2008, 09:47 AM
^^ & he used to suck james' dick

both tall bald guitarists... you know who james was thinking of



edit: i never 'got' why this guy didn't sing his own songs for APC... he's pretty decent
as palatable as maynard anyhow..
glad he's on his own now.
(and yes this sounds tons like filter... lol)_

Caine Walker
04-02-2008, 10:13 AM
wheres teh leak!!?

Thaniel Buckner
04-02-2008, 10:56 AM
...


this song is terrible.

Eulogy
04-02-2008, 11:12 AM
i don't know yet

i certainly wasn't floored by weak and powerless when i first heard it. buttttt i like it now, and i like the rest of that album.

i'm keeping hope alive. i mean, he's pretty much a one trick pony. i kind of hope he just made a retread of APC stuff. :erm:

Irridescent Fairysex
04-02-2008, 11:56 AM
...


this song is terrible.

It is, and the video is awful too.

Fattening Ass
04-02-2008, 02:20 PM
it creeps under the skin and gets you later

Im still pumped to hear the whole album. Howerdel rules.

wHATcOLOR
04-02-2008, 02:42 PM
fattening ass is a mid-twenties highschooler

Kahlo
04-02-2008, 02:50 PM
more proof that the mods are useless

tcm
04-02-2008, 03:06 PM
was hoping this was another lawsuit tbh.

Pretzel Logic
04-02-2008, 08:44 PM
why is this on the sp forum?

People are supposed to compare Corgan's new work with Howerdel's new work, but that hasn't happened yet. I didn't think I really needed to elaborate on that. The title says it all.

T&T
04-02-2008, 09:27 PM
was hoping this was another lawsuit tbh.
:banging:
Metallica sues bands for using "E F" chord progression....

Billy sues bands for using "D A C G" chord progression

Gish08
04-02-2008, 09:40 PM
Billy Howerdel has nothing on Corgan. Nothing.

Irridescent Fairysex
04-02-2008, 10:14 PM
he looks like an albino mongoloid trying to do some manson movements.

Pretzel Logic
04-02-2008, 10:49 PM
Billy Howerdel has nothing on Corgan. Nothing.

I bet he isn't as money grubbing.

Catherine Wheel
04-02-2008, 11:38 PM
I really like the lead guitar tone and the arrangements on Mer De Noms. I think APC's debut is actually a little better than Gish. Howerdells guitar playing seems a bit more imaginative.

Aside from that it's kind of hard to compare because Corgan has a much larger body of work.

Banana
04-03-2008, 12:00 AM
I like the song

IWishIWasBlank
04-03-2008, 08:58 AM
APC sounded like Tool when I saw them on their debut tour. I wasn't terribly impressed. They rocked, but still sounded too much like Tool for me to validate it as a side project for the Nard.

Kahlo
04-03-2008, 08:59 AM
Billy Corgan vs Hannah Montana

IWishIWasBlank
04-03-2008, 09:16 AM
THAT'S NOT SP RELATED! MODS TO THREAD! MODS TO THREAD! *WEE-OOH WEE-OOH*

exactlythesame
04-03-2008, 10:35 PM
This song has caught my attention several times on the radio, but I had no idea who Ashes Divide were or what their history was. I know now why the song grabbed me so quickly -- Howerdel has got amazing talent. This sounds nothing like APC or Tool; it's a fresh direction, and a good one. Not wonderful, but it says something about the song that I picked it out amongst the garbage of modern radio with no predisposed ideas about it. Truly a diamond in the rough.

I know what album I'll be buying this coming Tuesday.

Eulogy
04-03-2008, 11:15 PM
This sounds nothing like APC

um

Eulogy
04-03-2008, 11:18 PM
and as for the song

what i can make out of the lyrics is pretty bad, but i don't really care. his voice is...alright.

the vocal melody in the chorus really does it for me though. i'm pretty excited for the album.

Eulogy
04-03-2008, 11:19 PM
although that pause after "change" seems too abrupt or something.

halo2534
04-03-2008, 11:23 PM
sucks

talk show host
04-04-2008, 01:09 AM
Pretty bad nu-metal sound. Those chugging chords that stop and start is what makes it sound the most like bad breaking benjamin style music. His voice isn't bad, and suits the song I think, I just don't think that song is any good.

Luke de Spa
04-04-2008, 03:17 AM
doesn't tool already have about twelve songs called "the stone"?

mojo
04-04-2008, 03:06 PM
i take it this question/thread is a joke - this lifeless goth metal lite would disgrace fucking placebo and they were fucking terrible, too. it sounds utterly utterly generic and - to address the billy vs billy question - it makes neverlost sound like tonight tonight. as for not sounding like APC - wtf?? it's not like he's gone all gospel trance is it? it sounds EXACTLY like APC only slightly shittier.

mojo
04-04-2008, 04:45 PM
get this shit off the sp forum.

yes please.