How many of you have been hitched?

Never have and most likely never will be.

i hope to find a wife tonight.

marriage is for the people who are vain enough to think someone will always love waking up next to them every morning.


also, it's for the people who are beautiful enough to make this feasible.

4 years as of February :)

I'm too young to even think about marriage. I also think that it's too big a commitment for me to even consider, but hey - let's see what the next five to ten years bring.

4 years as of February :)

five last december.
crazyness, eh? time is so.. fleeting

Never been married, and I don't see myself being able to commit to one person for the rest of my days.

No, and I don't see this changing anytime soon/ever

i'm being completely serious when i say: marriage is outdated. the whole concept is so out of touch with where the western civilization stands right now it's ridiculous.
Why do people still do this? Why? Because girls wanna wear a beautiful dress on this "most important day in their life"?
the divorcement rate in germany is almost 50 %, so i guess in the more urban america this will be similar.

for most people there are symbolic, monetary, and legal reasons for marriage

And religious, and moral, and the fact that kids grow up better in a stable home.

marriage does not a stable household guarantee

marriage does not a stable household guarantee

Well, true... but it sorta helps, arguably.

Also, for tax reasons. :p

for most people there are symbolic, monetary, and legal reasons for marriage

Exactly! But why not provide companions in life (is that the right expression?) those very legal and monetary benefits without the whole marriage thing?
I understand it's symbolic and romantic, sure....but you know, it loses a whole lot of romanticism if every second couple gets divorced. i don't know about you guys, but among my friends it's rather the exception if their parents are still married.

And religious, and moral, and the fact that kids grow up better in a stable home.


....joking?

in my defense, symbolic for me took care of religious/moral, and legal/monetary covers tax so THERE!

Why do people still do this? Why? Because girls wanna wear a beautiful dress on this "most important day in their life"?

People can still want to be married but not have that idea of a huge ass wedding in mind. And those same people can have a vagina.

....joking?

I should amend that statement... it helps if the people are actually committed. People don't take marriage seriously anymore, so it doesn't really matter. I guess I'm speaking generally of an ideal world, which we don't live in.

in my defense, symbolic for me took care of religious/moral, and legal/monetary covers tax so THERE!




Oh... yeah. See, I'm not reading so well right now. I should stay out of serious conversations while on cold medicine >.<

I should amend that statement... it helps if the people are actually committed. People don't take marriage seriously anymore, so it doesn't really matter. I guess I'm speaking generally of an ideal world, which we don't live in.


Yeah sorry, I always bite down pretty hard when I see stuff like 'religious/moral' etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm down with stable, long lasting, monogomous relationships, particularly when children are involved, though I can attest that it doesn't always work out so simply as you say.

in my defense, symbolic for me took care of religious/moral, and legal/monetary covers tax so THERE!




Oh, then I'm gonna get married, because i don't wanna piss off the church and want to pay less taxes. : )
love is all you need.
it's not at all about how relationships work nowadays compared to whatever century that crap was invented by some ugly guy in power, who wanted a legal justification to force his woman to stay by his side or she would get stoned to death.

i'm not sure what your point is.
sure, the divorce rate is awful - but that's because people are retarded.

no, i don't think that's the reason.
however, i don't quite know what my point is either. that's the problem with internet discussions, you see? if we were sitting in a bar or something i could win you over with a charming smile and another round of vodka tonic.

i think any reason you come up with would narrow down to the retardation of people.

most problems do, you see.

so maybe you gotta adjust old ideas like devoting your whole life to one person till death does part them etc. to the "new retardisation"? The whole concept of instant gratification that our generation experiences is kinda contradictory to this.
i'm being philosophical here.

you want another drink?

i actually swore off alcohol as of monday, so uhm.. no.

As long as we agree that this whole "sanctity of marriage" business is utter bullshit...

As long as we agree that this whole "sanctity of marriage" business is utter bullshit...


I used to say that, but recently I've been thinking how do you respond to a couple who buy into the whole deal and make it work in a really positive way? Do they just become a 'fluke' or what?

Serious question

That wasn't my point - if a couple enjoys its marriage that's totally fine with me, and who knows, maybe I'll be married one day myself [of course only if it's done minus the whole religion thing].
But using this as an excuse to deny homosexuals the choice of marriage or even a civil union is fucked up and wrong in many ways.

Marriage works for two people who are truly in love and willing to make a go of it. Marriage doesn't work if you're just some douchebag guy trying to get a girl into the sack without truly thinking or if you're just some ditzy girl who wants to have a fairytail moment any way she can. Unfortunately, i think a significant portion of the divorced couples pool falls under those two categories and thats why divorce rate itself is so high.

Yeah, there's nothing romantic about a marriage.

im just living in sin.

well, there's the pledging of your lives to one another in a (theoretically) unbreakable vow. That's pretty romantic but thanks to divorce no one takes it seriously. If instead of outlawing homosexual marriages they outlawed divorce, within a few years to a decade there would be some significant and positive changes in the world

That wasn't my point - if a couple enjoys its marriage that's totally fine with me, and who knows, maybe I'll be married one day myself [of course only if it's done minus the whole religion thing].
But using this as an excuse to deny homosexuals the choice of marriage or even a civil union is fucked up and wrong in many ways.

Yeah, there's nothing romantic about a marriage.

Ah gotcha, fair calls sir

I hope to be married someday....when I was little I thought it would be before I was 30 and now that I'm 25 I'm realizing that's not gonna happen. But I'm ok with that. I don't think it's an outdated tradition, but also recognize it's not for everyone. But I think that all people who wish to get married should have that right, and if someone doesn't want to then they shouldn't get shit for it.

I have never been married. I'm not averse to it, though weddings just make me itch -- I want a nice dress and a fun party, but not if it means losing all my brain cells (and some friends) like so many brides appear to. Right now, I have enough trouble selecting underpants, let alone a life partner.

Marriage works for two people who are truly in love and willing to make a go of it. Marriage doesn't work if you're just some douchebag guy trying to get a girl into the sack without truly thinking or if you're just some ditzy girl who wants to have a fairytail moment any way she can. Unfortunately, i think a significant portion of the divorced couples pool falls under those two categories and thats why divorce rate itself is so high.

Nicely put.

Yeah, there's nothing romantic about a marriage.

Says the unmarried guy....

(yes, there is.)

well, there's the pledging of your lives to one another in a (theoretically) unbreakable vow. That's pretty romantic but thanks to divorce no one takes it seriously. If instead of outlawing homosexual marriages they outlawed divorce, within a few years to a decade there would be some significant and positive changes in the world

I don't think the problem is divorce itself, but the preperation for marriage. If folks were required to go to some form of marriage counselling a year beforehand, I think it'd really help alot more than outlawing divorce would.

I don't think the problem is divorce itself, but the preperation for marriage. If folks were required to go to some form of marriage counselling a year beforehand, I think it'd really help alot more than outlawing divorce would.

Well, i suppose outlaw is a very strong word. Your suggestion is kind of what im going for. I just think if the dissolution of the union wasn't so easy and if we all made truly sure we knew our partners inside and out then marriage would work. Something needs to be put in place to force more thought and care into taking the vows. I was just thinking if divorce was a harder thing to achieve then people would put much more thought before taking the plunge.



I suppose you out thought me with a much more logical solution and thats probably why i'll never be married :)

I suppose you out thought me with a much more logical solution and thats probably why i'll never be married :)

I can't take credit for that idea... the Catholic Church has been doing that a long time. :) I've got friends going through pre-marriage prep now, I kinda wish we'd become Catholic sooner so I would have known about it.

i am catholic and i still didn't know about it lol. then again, i'm nowhere near ready to go through the notions of marriage anyway.

Ah gotcha, fair calls sir

That's settled, then.


Says the unmarried guy....

(yes, there is.)

Lighten up, I was joking. :noway:

Lighten up, I was joking. :noway:

Hell I can't tell, you guys are a bunch of bitter bitches sometimes :D

oo, he is burned.

i am catholic and i still didn't know about it lol. then again, i'm nowhere near ready to go through the notions of marriage anyway.

Oh, yeah :D They make you wait a year so you can go through pre-marriage prep before you can get married.

bah, too much work. i'm just going to buy mine from a mail order catalog. I'll be wed in six to eight weeks.

almost!

thank god I dodged that bullet.

really? was it to a butterscotch rhino?

she was built like a rhino, yes.

I have never been married. I'm not averse to it, though weddings just make me itch -- I want a nice dress and a fun party, but not if it means losing all my brain cells (and some friends) like so many brides appear to. Right now, I have enough trouble selecting underpants, let alone a life partner.

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the older i get, the less i'm interested in getting married. i just don't feel a burning need for it, to have something holding me somewhere and i don't feel the need to hold someone else somewhere.

if i thought i was going to lose someone if i didn't get hitched, then i should not be with them. also the idea of having a wedding, being in the center of attention practically gives me hives.

but i think marriage can work if you agree on a number of things. i don't agree with monogamy, personally, until the end of your days. It's a big thing to ask for and to demand of someone else, to be 100% faithful for 50 odd years - i think it causes an awful lot of problems more than it should.

For myself, i would want marriage to have trust, flexibility and lots of freedom - i think that's the only way it would ever work for me in the construct of a marriage.

The more you 'tie' someone down, give them rules, the harder they'll pull away and i do not agree with me having any right to tell someone how to live and no one else has the right to do the same. If our paths our similar, our ideals and dreams and goals all that important stuff we can agree on and we can agree to work through anything that one person wants, i would do whatever it took.

I want someone to be happy to take the journey through the rest of their life with me by their side. I do not want to be the person telling them how to do it.

I want someone to be happy to take the journey through the rest of their life with me by their side. I do not want to be the person telling them how to do it.

this was really well said. i feel the same way.

translation: alisonmonster likes to fuck a lot, so don't try and stop her

:O alisonhardcore

whats the definition of marriage anyway? isn't it a legalese type of deal anyway? i know there is religious marriage and all, but what does marriage mean to people who don't have any tie to religion or having marriage mean a tighter leash?

translation: alisonmonster likes to fuck a lot, so don't try and stop her

LOCK UP YOUR SONS

but i think marriage can work if you agree on a number of things. i don't agree with monogamy, personally, until the end of your days. It's a big thing to ask for and to demand of someone else, to be 100% faithful for 50 odd years - i think it causes an awful lot of problems more than it should.

it sounds as if you don't have a problem with marriage, but with commitment in general

:O alisonhardcore

whats the definition of marriage anyway? isn't it a legalese type of deal anyway? i know there is religious marriage and all, but what does marriage mean to people who don't have any tie to religion or having marriage mean a tighter leash?

good point.

like for me, at this point in my life i don't desire to get married to begin with.

i think it is a symbolic thing, more than anything. Emotional commitment, to ride this life out together i guess, a partner in crime? You don't need a marriage for that though.

it sounds as if you don't have a problem with marriage, but with commitment in general

i believe in emotional commitment - to have someone who's the one person in the world who is my best friend til i die. My partner to share with me in my best and my worst.

Your definition of a commitment is probably different than mine, everyone has a different idea of what a commitment is to them.

i believe in emotional commitment - to have someone who's the one person in the world who is my best friend til i die. My partner to share with me in my best and my worst.

Your definition of a commitment is probably different than mine, everyone has a different idea of what a commitment is to them.

well basically when i commit i kind of ask people to not share their vaginas with other cocks and if they do they should understand that i will leave them

congratulations

good point.

like for me, at this point in my life i don't desire to get married to begin with.

i think it is a symbolic thing, more than anything. Emotional commitment, to ride this life out together i guess, a partner in crime? You don't need a marriage for that though.

i totally agree.

seems more of a formality and tradition for family and extended family and really just putting on a expensive "show" of your relationship and maybe get some free stuff out of it. but weddings seem far too expensive. if someone puts more value on the act of marriage itself, and being married, rather than the fact say, the couple are best friends and dont really require marriage to function in their relationship, there's something wrong.

married for 3 years

how do you like it? don't sugar coat it, Leonard "Big Balls" Mahoney can handle the truth

i totally agree.

seems more of a formality and tradition for family and extended family and really just putting on a expensive "show" of your relationship and maybe get some free stuff out of it. but weddings seem far too expensive. if someone puts more value on the act of marriage itself, and being married, rather than the fact say, the couple are best friends and dont really require marriage to function in their relationship, there's something wrong.

oh yeah i know. god, how many people i know who, after the wedding is over are totally clueless what to do next: 'i guess we'll have a few kids....maybe i'll get some new cupboards'. 2 years later they're sacked with debt and kids and bills and stress and they sure don't seem to be living the charmed life forever and ever like they were fondly romanticizing at their wedding dinner. I think someone deleted my desire for marriage and procreation, at least for now.

i sort of feel like i have to say: i'm not sleeping around or particularily interested for other people to fuck if anyone is thinking i am. i'm pretty content as to how things are. i just don't feel like putting down some arbitrary rule that says ' you can't do this or this or this or this ever for the rest of your life because i said so.'

10 years in June

10 years in June

Very nice, congrats

3 of us divorced, awesome i thought i was the only fuck up :banging:

I'm not sure if neopryn was totally honest there.

2 years in less than 2 weeks :)

i'm gonna be that "something crazy" that happens to jenniferkate.

i'm gonna be that "something crazy" that happens to jenniferkate.

Mwahaha!!! Then I can finally make my move!!!

i'm gonna be that "something crazy" that happens to jenniferkate.

TEASE

oh i'll back it up lady! i ain't all talk.


i really shouldn't encourage that lesbian talk about us. or should i?

i totally agree.

seems more of a formality and tradition for family and extended family and really just putting on a expensive "show" of your relationship and maybe get some free stuff out of it. but weddings seem far too expensive. if someone puts more value on the act of marriage itself, and being married, rather than the fact say, the couple are best friends and dont really require marriage to function in their relationship, there's something wrong.

Marry me?

I'm a homosexual and am able to have a 'civil partnership ceremony' but choose not to as it's a load of bullshit. We know what we have and we don't need a ceremony to prove it to ourselves or anyone else.

Marry me?

Why did you vote the 'not married' option? Did I miss something?

me, gil, matt and a/ are gonna have an awesome orgy

Why did you vote the 'not married' option? Did I miss something?

Brian hasn't even said yes yet!

*****, stop being coy. fess up.

ugh.

oh c'mon, you didn't expect a straight answer from him did you?

oh c'mon, you didn't expect a straight answer from him did you?

Since meeting Brian, there's hasn't been much straight about me!

i really shouldn't encourage that lesbian talk about us. or should i?

encourage away!

I'm getting married in July. Hopefully we will last for a while...

I'm a homosexual and am able to have a 'civil partnership ceremony' but choose not to as it's a load of bullshit. We know what we have and we don't need a ceremony to prove it to ourselves or anyone else.
couldn't agree more.

the only thing i like about weddings is the speeches. i'd appreciate the chance to stand up in public and tell everyone my lady friend is awesome, but there are scant opportunities outside of some massive stupid gift scam

edit: oh i forgot the power of attorney stuff

My apple blossom and myself have been going out for over seven years and pretty much consider ourselves married at this stage. We both share the view that the traditional ceremony is rather hollow and have discussed the idea of trying to create our own ceremony.

The Celt's wedding ceremonies were pretty cool. The couple would cut their palms then run up a hill holding hands. :)

probs getting married next year

i'm married for the second time. There's no option for that one in the poll. I got married really young, divorced two years later. Then got married to someone else; we're having our nine year anniversary this month. I don't really care about all the people who don't get why people want to be married. I'm not living my life for anyone else besides me and my family. I get home from work and we go out back and play frisbee or toss around the nerf football until it gets dark. We have dinner at the table and talk and laugh, we help the kid with her homework, we watch Lost together and try to dissect it when it's over; we're best friends, we're attracted to one another, we have great sex, we have an awesome, creative, intelligent kid, we genuinely enjoy spending time together and have for more than a decade. I don't see why so many people have a problem with the idea that some people might actually <i>want</i> to be married to one another and have a family. Just because <i>you</i> don't have any interest in it, doesn't mean it's not a viable option for someone else.

hey skipgo, sans the kid and the frisbee i get all that and i didn't have to go through a religious ceremony that's totally irrelevant to me.


oh and lost, lost fucking sucks. if i wanted to deal with a whole lot of bait and switch bullshit i'd get married OHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHH

yeah no one else has taht kind of relationship with their signifcant other. all that is because of marriage i'm sure. get the fuck out of here skipgo your marriage has been dead for years

i'm married for the second time. There's no option for that one in the poll.
thats because you're dead inside.

BLAM!!!!

couldn't agree more.

the only thing i like about weddings is the speeches. i'd appreciate the chance to stand up in public and tell everyone my lady friend is awesome, but there are scant opportunities outside of some massive stupid gift scam

edit: oh i forgot the power of attorney stuff

Again I would tend to agree - I don't agree with the religous side of things at all, so we are having a Humanist wedding ceremony which is only legal in Scotland and a few places - basically we write the vows, and there is no god involved whatsoever.

We also aren't doing the wedding present thing as it is kind of lame, and are just taking a day to celebrate our relationship- also we get tax breaks woo!

yeah no one else has taht kind of relationship with their signifcant other. all that is because of marriage i'm sure. get the fuck out of here skipgo your marriage has been dead for years

shut up julio, i didn't say my relationship is like that BECAUSE i'm married.duh.

I said it is like that, and i happen to be married and happily so. I can completely respect what lds said, and i don't think anyone should get married if they don't want to or don't see any point in doing so. The perspective I have is that some people are actually happy to be married. People sometimes act like it's some sort of prison sentence when people are married, and it's not. If it's not for you, then that's great. But it's not some horrible, life ending thing that some people make it out to be.

we need some polygamy back in this country

Since meeting Brian, there's hasn't been much straight about me!

i'll have to ask if she's okay with swapping. :smoke:

we need some polygamy back in this country

I hear there's an opening in AZ since that Jeff guy on the FBI's most wanted list was arrested...

MARRIAGE IS BEAUTIFUL AND I CANT WAIT TO BE A PART OF ONE.

Again I would tend to agree - I don't agree with the religous side of things at all, so we are having a Humanist wedding ceremony which is only legal in Scotland and a few places - basically we write the vows, and there is no god involved whatsoever.

We also aren't doing the wedding present thing as it is kind of lame, and are just taking a day to celebrate our relationship- also we get tax breaks woo!
bassist in my band got married recently and the ceremony was completely secular aside from it being held in a church. is that genuinely rare? they had the organist play the macgyver theme as they left the church

if you're not going to have a wedding the least you can do is hold a big gathering where all of your friends and family can get embarrassingly drunk without fear of reprisal.

they had the organist play the macgyver theme as they left the church

:rofl:

i didn't have a big wedding at all. just us, my parents and his parents. I'm not interested in having a bunch of people looking at me. His family was pissed that we didn't have a big church wedding, but fuck that. It was my wedding day, not theirs. :p

Again I would tend to agree - I don't agree with the religous side of things at all, so we are having a Humanist wedding ceremony which is only legal in Scotland and a few places

what the hell are you talking abuot

you can have a secular wedding in most places

and tax breaks

i was pissed cause when i was dating ian one time he had a show that i didnt go to and some old bird asked him 'where is your huggy girlfriend?'

bassist in my band got married recently and the ceremony was completely secular aside from it being held in a church. is that genuinely rare? they had the organist play the macgyver theme as they left the church

I officiated a wedding once that was completely secular.

Yeah, there needs to be an option for "married two people" for those of us who have performed a ceremony.

I tell people all the time that I married my best friend and his wife.

im an ordained minister. and i married two people as well. give me five, wallster

o/

************* - even if people don't lack commitment and have no financial troubles whatsoever, isn't it possible that they just... grow apart? Don't love each other anymore? Even with God in their marriage?

That question wasn't actually directed at the whole God-thing, but you said that if a marriage breaks it's just 'lack of commitment', and I disagree.
Anyway.

/Actually, never mind - I misread your post, sorry.

But if love fails a marriage wouldn't work out with all the commitment in the world.

obviously the key is keeping the spark there, which really isn't that difficult.



actually it is what with all them new homeland security rules these days

did ************* post here under a different name before??:think:

I am so glad to see a hypothetical thread without "ever" thrown in front of it. That did get very confusing

Its worse if its at the end "been married ever?" It also doesn't help if they put commas in or anything "been married, ever?"

You've been married, ever?!

I was once thinking of creating an account called NEver with a red moon instead of a blue moon but I could never make the moon red.

Yeah that'd be a lot of fill tool clicking in mspaint

Hey bonn. Today in english marlowe put my desk upside down and was standing on it waiting for me to walk in when I did he asked me what I was gonna do. I sat down next to it on the floor, my chair had been misplaced. Then he lifted the desk up into the air, put it on his desk, but it was still upside down, put his chair on top of that, climbed up and sat on it. Then I gave him an apple and someone got the meter ruler and he looked like a king with a scepter and orb only it was an apple and ruler.

MSpaint hardly works for .gifs. I used to have this one program called easy .gif manager or some other shady internet freeware software name which I used to make the "You will be gods" thing and the stars I have in my signature. But the license on it it expired or something so I can't make .gifs anymore.

I didn't read any of that

:S

Well I did but fucckkk if I understood it at all

It wasn't worth understanding anyway

Man, Avram, I thought up some killer recipe today. Here it is:
1 tsp miso paste
1 tsp rice wine vinegar
2 tsp sesame oil
2 1/2 tsp fresh orange juice
sriracha, to taste
1 1/2 cups reconstituted wakame
1 tsp sesame seeds, for garnish

Wisk together first 5 ingredients until emulsified. Pour over wakame and toss. Garnish with sesame seeds. CONSUME

What does it make?

Some sort of wakame salad

lol I'd try it but I doubt I'd like it

New studies conducted at Hokkaido University have found that a compound in wakame known as fucoxanthin can help burn fatty tissue. Studies in mice have shown that fucoxanthin induces expression of the fat-burning protein UCP1 that accumulates in fat tissue around the internal organs. Expression of UCP1 protein was significantly increased in mice fed fucoxanthin. Wakame is also used in topical beauty treatmentsNeato huh?

Sadie likes it

She also likes vegemite

Maybe vegemite mixed with wakame makes some kind of super rat food.

Touche >:[

I think we both know what you have to do now, bonnie.

Maybe vegemite mixed with wakame makes some kind of super rat food.

Lots and lots of b vitamins!

It would be mega healthy, just gross.

I think we both know what you have to do now, bonnie.

I have no clue. Did you put that picture up like I asked?

nvm

All worked out, all worked out

where's the "married with children" option