http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003711264

A previously unreleased Smashing Pumpkins song, "SuperChrist," will be released on a CD featuring bands staffed by employees of Guitar Center, Billboard.com can reveal.

The album will be available in a limited quantity beginning March 1 at Guitar Center outlets. The members of the Pumpkins chose the acts appearing on the compilation based on submissions from Guitar Center.

"Guitar Center asked us if we would be interested in contributing a song to this compilation of young artists to help draw attention to the bands," Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan says in a statement released to Billboard.com. "We loved the idea, and think Guitar Center is way ahead of the curve of what is possible between musicians and reaching new audiences."

"SuperChrist," which didn't make the cut for the Pumpkins' 2007 album "Zeitgeist" but has been performed live on the supporting tour, will be the subject of a new video, premiering Feb. 27 on MySpace.

"We didn't feel we understood the song and thought playing it on tour would help us sort it out," Corgan says of the song, which was recorded at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, Calif., with co-producer Kerry Brown. "He seems to bring out the psychedelic in us."

In addition, the Pumpkins are planning a new round of North American tour dates, with details to be announced.

Guitar Center sucks.

psychedelic is good!

upload please!

maybe the video will be psychedelic as well :) :)
looking forward to it.

psychedelic is good!



i'm all for progression of sound, but a return to roots is what this band has needed for a while now. i'll be interested to hear what "psychedelic" means to mr. corgan nowadays.

Apparently, now "psychedelic" is vamping on a D-flat power chord for seven minutes

i'm all for progression of sound, but a return to roots is what this band has needed for a while now. i'll be interested to hear what "psychedelic" means to mr. corgan nowadays.

Joy Division = Heavy Metal

I'm excited to hear this :) I'm not so psyched about the video, but I'm not unhappy that there is one.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003711264

A previously unreleased Smashing Pumpkins song, "SuperChrist," will be released on a CD featuring bands staffed by employees of Guitar Center, Billboard.com can reveal.

The album will be available in a limited quantity beginning March 1 at Guitar Center outlets. The members of the Pumpkins chose the acts appearing on the compilation based on submissions from Guitar Center.

"Guitar Center asked us if we would be interested in contributing a song to this compilation of young artists to help draw attention to the bands," Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan says in a statement released to Billboard.com. "We loved the idea, and think Guitar Center is way ahead of the curve of what is possible between musicians and reaching new audiences."

"SuperChrist," which didn't make the cut for the Pumpkins' 2007 album "Zeitgeist" but has been performed live on the supporting tour, will be the subject of a new video, premiering Feb. 27 on MySpace.

"We didn't feel we understood the song and thought playing it on tour would help us sort it out," Corgan says of the song, which was recorded at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, Calif., with co-producer Kerry Brown. "He seems to bring out the psychedelic in us."

In addition, the Pumpkins are planning a new round of North American tour dates, with details to be announced.

woot

Um, did I miss something, is this tour old news?

In addition, the Pumpkins are planning a new round of North American tour dates, with details to be announced.

BOOM! Called it.

http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=155060&page=2

Yes, you missed something.

Apparently they want to do some shows that are similar to past eras of the band. Or something. Heh.

hooray for a new studio song and NA tour dates

well we knew they were coming back but this is the first such confirmation of dates coming soon. so, its woot-worthy.

i'll probably just do like 3 or 4 shows this year, with the sets being the same and such. the PI booklet was sooooo right. 2007 was a great year. :smoke:

maybe this time theyll stop in florida


...

north american tour dates!! wohoo!!

Yeah, tour dates throughout Canada! Right, guys? Guys?

So the Linda Strawberry et al video shoot was for Superchrist, not Neverlost. This makes more sense.

Interesting that Superchrist was originally a Zeitgeist song, I've always thought it sounded like a "jam" song.......very similar to United States, as a matter of fact.

I'm not a huge fan of US, so I'm probably not going to be a huge fan of Superchrist....although "psychedelic" is tantalizing.


EDIT: Also, a full-length video for Superchrist, a non-album track? Weird.

Apparently, now "psychedelic" is vamping on a D-flat power chord for seven minutes

heh. hehehehe.

well, i'm certain these new north american dates won't in<l>clude chicago.

the PI booklet was sooooo right. 2007 was a great year. :smoke:

i think it's funny that billy claims to have forgotten about that.

well this certainly makes me happy

here's to hoping for at least one southern tour date...the 11/16 show in atlanta was absolutely badass

of course, the asheville shows i went to can't be touched (caine walker, shout out!)

We need another utah date... or maybe they can come back and do that Boise show they cancelled.

well this certainly makes me happy

here's to hoping for at least one southern tour date...the 11/16 show in atlanta was absolutely badass

of course, the asheville shows i went to can't be touched (caine walker, shout out!)

what's up DUDE!

and yeah, that show was incredible... driving for 16 hours, the anticipation of the unknown, having a good buzz before the show, and then seeing them just rock balls for 3 hours straight all added up to a pretty unforgettable evening. good stuff. :)

theres not a bit of news here that im not stoked about.

what's up DUDE!

and yeah, that show was incredible... driving for 16 hours, the anticipation of the unknown, having a good buzz before the show, and then seeing them just rock balls for 3 hours straight all added up to a pretty unforgettable evening. good stuff. :)

man we really had a blast


i was just looking at the setlist for that show...starting off with zero was pretty absurd and silverfuck was mastery

theres not a bit of news here that im not stoked about.

awww. what would stoke you, little buddy?

no i mean im stoked about it all. but interesting question.

ha, sorry. i missed the first "not."

I bet that guitar center gave them the money for the video for more promotion.

I really must say that Jimmy did not lie, 2008 is looking to be a great year for the band. Everything on that announcement made me giddy. I hope they stop by Atlanta again!

Although I do think that Chicago may finally get something special...

May I be the first to say...

Fuck Yeah! Superchrist is ace, rather that than a video for Neverlost!

Fuck yes, this is awesome news. The new live Superchrist is phenominal. And more fucking NA dates, I can't fucking wait!!!!

rickpat, i hope they go to chicago for you guys this time. I'll cross my finger for ya.

I cant wait to hear this!

And im hoping the video doesnt turn out to be a sequel to the Untitled video... :-/

rickpat, i hope they go to chicago for you guys this time. I'll cross my finger for ya.

Thanks Skipgo:love:I've had them crossed for awhile!

I bet that guitar center gave them the money for the video for more promotion.
the inevitable post thats so fucking hung up about album or promotional funding.


Im so sick of this bitching like its unique to the pumpkins and this is the first time its ever happened in the history of music. get. the fuck. over it.

the inevitable post thats so fucking hung up about album or promotional funding.


Im so sick of this bitching like its unique to the pumpkins and this is the first time its ever happened in the history of music. get. the fuck. over it.

I didnt mean that the pumpkins were promoting themselves, but promote the guitar center cd.

yeah ok, so what? if this is what you're thinking about amongst news of a new tune, video, and tour then just end it now. or go work on your stock portfolio.

end what?

suck on a tailpipe and you'll find out.

eh, no thanks.
you can garski yourself.

haha touche.

you helped me out with that boot, so sorry about the whole you should kill your self thing. carry on with life, little guy!

Im sorry too.
Have a good listen with the boot.
:)

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003711264

"He seems to bring out the psychedelic in us."

In addition, the Pumpkins are planning a new round of North American tour dates, with details to be announced.

Last 2 sentences were the best.

And they are making a music video for it?

is this the video that has the weird strippers or whatever that everyone thought was for the neverlost single?

http://www.mediafire.com/?b36zqyz0bqy

the studio version is great

is this the video that has the weird strippers or whatever that everyone thought was for the neverlost single?

that's what we're assuming, yes.

They werent strippers. They were sexy nurses with garders. i seriously wonder what the hell the video is going to be like.

yessssssssssssssssssssssss

Studio Version sounds the EXACT same as the live version :(

Studio Version sounds the EXACT same as the live version :(

:rolleyes::erm:

http://www.mediafire.com/?b36zqyz0bqy

the studio version is great

I'm assuming this is fake or the AOL version.

its the aol version. banana03 is an idiot.

AOL Version? That's a shame they will probably fuck up the studio version somehow, because that link sounds perfect.

http://buzznet-83.vo.llnwd.net/assets/users16/audrey/default/pumpkin_smashing--large-msg-120333075434.jpg

kewl.

maybe this time theyll stop in florida


...

It wasn't their fault the festival crapped its pants.

AOL Sessions video:
http://music.aol.com/video/superchrist-aol-sessions/smashing-pumpkins/1975717

^ Totally kicks ass

Can't wait to hear the studio version!!

I love superchrist, but i just dont understand how you can make a music video for a song comprised soley of palm muted power chords and 4 lines of unintelligible lyrics

revolution is solution

AOL Sessions video:
http://music.aol.com/video/superchrist-aol-sessions/smashing-pumpkins/1975717

^ Totally kicks ass

Can't wait to hear the studio version!!

great video

http://buzznet-83.vo.llnwd.net/assets/users16/audrey/default/pumpkin_smashing--large-msg-120333075434.jpg


"Are they saying Boo or Boo-urns?"


That's what I think of every time I've seen her at a show or on the net.

"Are they saying Boo or Boo-urns?"




"i was saying boo-urns..."

The first thread about SP having a new song on the next Guitar Center compilation (before it was known that it would be "Superchrist") said that the CD will be free for anyone to pick up at the store. Still true?? Fantastic if so.

Maybe I'll even buy a guitar... cause I'd like one :)

I love superchrist, but i just dont understand how you can make a music video for a song comprised soley of palm muted power chords and 4 lines of unintelligible lyrics
isn't it like...

evolution is solution, christ
one solution one makes you pure
this love (or is it life) and mine, for i need time

seems pretty intelligible, and LAME, to me. It's so good that the song itself is basically balls to the wall. Sadly the lyrics are religious crap.

what happen to the good ole days when this shit use to leak 2 weeks early

I like the lyrics, their placement, and their delivery... but they are definately not intelligible.

and gish08, were you at the pittsburgh show? I was, and it was a great performance of SC we got there!! =)

hey avsfan7733 what are the lyrics again?

Always sounded to me like
"evolution this allusion aaaaaaah
one solution one brings you yaaaaah
this love, am i aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!?"

i like those lyrics too avsfan7733. i like those lyrics too.

not coming out until March 11 now? That's what I heard.. can't find a link online to confirm

i just got something in the mail from guitar center saying that it's available today.

unless the date changed after this was printed

Hmm, ok. Also, did everyone know this was free? That's the only reason I'm interested now.

EDIT:
From San Antonio Pumpkins Fans MySpace

Superchrist" CD - March 11. Only 50,000 CDs made
For anyone who was hoping to get ahold of "Superchrist" this weekend, looks like we've got another week and a half before the release of this CD, which I believe might be complimentary. The CD is called Fresh Cuts Vol. 2. at Guitar Center.
With over 200 stores, that's around 250 per store.

yeah, it's free. i can't find anything on their website about a release date though.

I just called a Guitar Center in Dallas and they already have their copies of this CD. Call your local Guitar Center to see if it's available.

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/locations

^
thanks for the tip.. san francisco says not until monday or tuesday

are people spreading the march 11 rumour so they'll have less competition to get one of these compilations when it is released?

I called the one in Union Square in NYC and those idiots didn't even know about it, and when one guy finally did he said he thought it was "online only." This means I have to now physically walk down there and check for myself.

yeah dude didn't know about it here either. he took my name and said he was gonna check with the "guy in back" to see about it.


there should be a smiley thats giving the jerking off motion.

Gordon Cole is worried about Cooper!

hmmm has this leakedy et? its not on what.cd

here's the source for the March 11 release date
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/press_releases/guitar_center_helps_employees_pursue_their_dreams. html

i called 3 GC's. none of them knew for sure if it was coming out tomorrow, as the original article mentioned, 1 guy told me "within the next week".

if you ask nicely the store manager will take your contact info down and call you when its available.

the one markpregen linked to is a GC press release, so that logically seems to be the most reliable.



JHeibel -- Did the Dallas store say when they would start to be available?

Just called the Rancho Cucamonga store (in Southern California) and they told me that they should have it by Monday or Tuesday. I'm guessing Tuesday because of the press release.

press release says next tuesday.

get your shit together gc

press release says next tuesday.

Well they said this Monday or Tuesday. This is getting very confusing.

do we have a flac leak yet?

c'mon guys!
you're alll so lazy.
get on this.

JHeibel -- Did the Dallas store say when they would start to be available?

They didn't have vol. 2, just vol. 1. And they didn't know when the new one was coming out.

so when it's out, can you like walk into a store and just grab a copy? grab a couple? like?

They didn't have vol. 2, just vol. 1. And they didn't know when the new one was coming out.

i got exactly the same reply at my local GC

so when it's out, can you like walk into a store and just grab a copy? grab a couple? like?

Yes. Vol. 1 was just sitting up on a counter at the Dallas location. An employee said I could take a couple copies if I wanted.

Yes. Vol. 1 was just sitting up on a counter at the Dallas location. An employee said I could take a couple copies if I wanted.

Well that's fun, something like that would never take place here :think:.

Just called the GC in Arlington, TX. He said they have it. When I asked how many per customer he said "Just come in and we'll work it out." So, I'll try to get extras for anyone else who can't get one. I'm going over there right now.

Marisa

go marisa! go marisa! it's your birthday! it's your birthday!

Okay, I'm back with no cd. They only had the old one. I should have known not to trust the guy on the phone. He said they had the one with the new SP song on it. Anyway, they took my name and number and said they would call me when it came in. They don't know when it will be in. The guy also told me the Superchrist video was the most watched video on MySpace yesterday. It's weird that they know that but they don't know what they have in their store.

Marisa

This is the most shoddy release I've ever seen. I've called two GC's and one had no clue what it was and the other guy told me it was online only.

Advice to GC: Have you ever heard of company-wide memos?

All I found at the store in San Antonio, TX was clueless employees.

austin stores say they'll come in soon, maybe monday

I had my whole Saturday planned around this release. Hopefully Mon. or Tues...

why would you plan your saturday around this?

although i was kinda excited to go to guitar center. i haven't been in awhile and i always enjoy sniffing around there.

although i was kinda excited to go to guitar center. i haven't been in awhile and i always enjoy sniffing around there.

yeah, we call that shoplifting here.

I hate guitar center so fucking bad. It's so obnoxious going in there and hearing all the stupid riffage.

I hate guitar center so fucking bad. It's so obnoxious going in there and hearing all the stupid riffage.

yup

Not yet available in Raleigh, NC, yet either...though the guy there did know that Dweezil Zappa was on their last CD. He said the new one with the Pumpkins should be in "any day now." Unfortunately, I only get up that way about once a month. :(

damn. i'm in san diego and there's no gee-tar center in sight. if anyone could grab me a copy i'd be sure to return the favor somehow, just let me know...thanks!

damn. i'm in san diego and there's no gee-tar center in sight. if anyone could grab me a copy i'd be sure to return the favor somehow, just let me know...thanks!

one in la mesa...i think there may be a couple more

one in la mesa...i think there may be a couple more

thanks for the tip. i rely on public transit though, so i can only get to something in SD.

so is this out at all? if so is a rip online yet?

I'm certain of the end, it's the means that has me spooked

as mentioned earlier in the thread, the official release date is March 11. no one has it yet. some stores are saying they'll get it monday or tuesday of this week, but i'll believe it when i see it

how many song on the cd will be better then superchrist i wonder :)

cds are in, at one of the GC's in the burbs. will stop by and get mine after work (they put 1 aside from me). I will try to get extras if i can.

booya!

cds are in, at one of the GC's in the burbs. will stop by and get mine after work (they put 1 aside from me). I will try to get extras if i can.

is this a reliable contact? i hope its not another "oops, it was actually Fresh Cuts Volume 1"..

its the store manager i talked to on friday night. he said the box just came in yesterday and they put it out for customers today.

^cool thanks. San Francisco still doesn't have it

I will try to get extras if i can.

COUGH COUGH

rip that shit dav

cds are in, at one of the GC's in the burbs. will stop by and get mine after work (they put 1 aside from me). I will try to get extras if i can.

if you do snag some extra ones, i'd be happy to make some kinda trade (not that i have much to trade..but you know...)

do you all really care about this? superchrist is awful

i just want a decent mp3 rip of the song

do you all really care about this? superchrist is awful
Don't act like you won't be all over the download.

320kbps mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/byo3ay)

wav (http://www.sendspace.com/file/szy9bn)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u100/Lucifers_Heir/buddy_christ.jpg

320kbps mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/byo3ay)

wav (http://www.sendspace.com/file/szy9bn)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u100/Lucifers_Heir/buddy_christ.jpg

You're the man Davin!

And also, listening to this without viewing the video, I like it MUCH more.

Thanks Davin :)

thanks dav!!!

any chance you can rip the whole cd?


i'm curious as to what else they picked to be on it.

320kbps mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/byo3ay)

wav (http://www.sendspace.com/file/szy9bn)

can you post screenshots of the cd cover/back? thanks

second that request

third.

and thanks for the audio post - the mp3 sounds great!

and thanks for the audio post - the mp3 sounds great!

Try the .wav, it will sound better.

picking this up now...I'm ready to burn what will hopefully be my FINAL Zeitgeist CD

There is no final Zeitgeist CD.

Thanks Davin

There is no final Zeitgeist CD.

no, fuck that. this is it. game over.

actually, like a hopeless retard, I'd buy the album on vinyl if it was released like that. maybe that will be the next final edition.

thanks for the upload.

picking this up now...I'm ready to burn what will hopefully be my FINAL Zeitgeist CD

With Superchrist, I don't think it all fits under 80 minutes anymore, does it?

(Not complaining -- I wouldn't mind if the next album were 3 hours long).

EDIT: yeah, it looks like it does fit. OK, carry on.

barely...almost 77 minutes total

I put Superchrist after United States...Zeitgeist last.

320kbps mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/byo3ay)

wav (http://www.sendspace.com/file/szy9bn)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u100/Lucifers_Heir/buddy_christ.jpg
Which store did you get it from? The one in Naperville gave me March 11 for a recieving date...

Which store did you get it from? The one in Naperville gave me March 11 for a recieving date...

I was told March 11th is the date they're being shipped to the GC in NYC, but they won't get them until 13th or 14th.

i went and got one from the GC on halsted last nite. i fucking hate that place and the douchebag who seems to be the only one who ever rings me up. guh.

i have to say... on a clear recording, blasting through a good sound system, superchrist is pretty fucking awesome. i really didn't think there was hope for this song, but with a good quality version of it, you can hear all of the nuances of the drum fills, how tightly jimmy and billy play together, and the violin part doesn't even bum me out that much anymore.

i think julio had mentioned how there are parts that are reminiscent of lightning bolt, and i have to second this. the end is complete psychfreakdrone and i fucking love it.

goddamn you billy corgan, you did it to me again.

ps, the rest of the cd is fucking awful. not sure how many of you are aware of this, but the rest of the tracks ARE FROM GUITAR CENTER EMPLOYEES. if billy and jimmy really did have a say in who got put on this thing, then straight up, they have pretty crappy taste in music. i.m.o.

Which store did you get it from? The one in Naperville gave me March 11 for a recieving date...

don't believe what you were told. Naperville, Arlington Heights, Algonquin and the one on Halsted all have them out as of yesterday.

Edit: i got mine in Arlington Heights, on the way home from work.

i have to say... on a clear recording, blasting through a good sound system, superchrist is pretty fucking awesome. i really didn't think there was hope for this song, but with a good quality version of it, you can hear all of the nuances of the drum fills, how tightly jimmy and billy play together, and the violin part doesn't even bum me out that much anymore.

i think julio had mentioned how there are parts that are reminiscent of lightning bolt, and i have to second this. the end is complete psychfreakdrone and i fucking love it.

goddamn you billy corgan, you did it to me again.

i totally fucking agree man. i think the GC folks were pretty impressed with the tightness of the jam as well, after i convinced them to pop it in the PA at the store.

ps, the rest of the cd is fucking awful. not sure how many of you are aware of this, but the rest of the tracks ARE FROM GUITAR CENTER EMPLOYEES. if billy and jimmy really did have a say in who got put on this thing, then straight up, they have pretty crappy taste in music. i.m.o.

yea, pretty amateur...i didn't even make it past track 6...and most songs were skipped before they finished. putting SC first has a jarring effect on the rest of the tracks, i think. :smoke:

for Gossamer and anyone else who wants to check it out, here's the rest of the disc.
hxxp://www.sendspace.com/file/y5buew

i totally fucking agree man. i think the GC folks were pretty impressed with the tightness of the jam as well, after i convinced them to pop it in the PA at the store.

LOL, nice work!! I'll try to convince them to do this when I get mine...

.

any chance of a front/back cover scan? or is it just the CD with no case?

like i said above, i'll get to the scans when i get a chance. no time last night....and i don't have the ability to do it right now while at work.

it is a full cd in a jewel case with a booklet, back cover insert, etc.

for those interested, this is what it says about SC:

"Written by William Patrick Corgan, Faust's Haus Publishing (BMI). Produced and mixed by Kerry Brown, Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin. Recorded by Kerry Brown. Mastered by Stephen Marcussen at Marcussen Mastering."

^Thanks, I missed your post about the scans. Any SP pictures in it?

no, no pics whatsoever. the cover has a little girl in a summer dress mowing the lawn ...and it says "Fresh Cuts vol. 2"...and the rest of the inserts are basically words on top of a grass lawn background.

there is a sticker on the outer plastic wrap that says: Featuring the exclusive SMASHING PUMPKINS track "Superchrist".

Fucking crushing. Thanks Davin, this sounds so much better than the shitty video rip. Drumming is insane. The only thing that could make this better would be a few screams thrown in.

Holy shit, you guys are RIGHT.

This song is way better when listened to in high-quality, without the taint of old hippie smothering it.


I actually kinda like this song now.

i really think it was a mistake to release the video before the recording was available.

guitar center in fairfax, va didnt have it. the guy i asked was like "yeah everyone keeps mentioning it i dont know" and another employee explained it to him; i guess he had heard of it

i really think it was a mistake to release the video before the recording was available.

True that.




Also, even though I don't really like the little violin part, I'm SO happy that he decided to go violin there, and NOT "la la la la" voice crap like was so present in Zeitgeist and AG.

I hope he ditches the whole "50 Billys singing in a choir" crap and embraces other instruments in the next release, be it album or not.

is it just me or is there no bass to speak of in this song?

I hope he ditches the whole "50 Billys singing in a choir" crap and embraces other instruments in the next release, be it album or not.

you can blame RTB for that. He worked on Z and AG but not SC. As long as they work with him, it will be there.

Billy has commented about RTB's "vocal layering" and anyone who knows RTB's past work should be more than familiar. The difference is there's usually more than one person's vocals being used in the layering, at least for most of his past projects.

From everything i've seen/read, it seems like originally RTB was only going to be a partial contributor like Terry Date was. Then along the way BC & JC fell in love with RTB's work (which isn't bad by any means, just different for a Pumpkins album) and so they ended up using him on even more tracks and taking his advice on tracks that were originally supposed to be produced 100& by BC & JC themselves. Even Tarantula, if i remember correctly, was credited to just BC & JC on the Z album, but then credited to RTB as well, on the cd-single.

you can blame RTB for that. He worked on Z and AG but not SC. As long as they work with him, it will be there.

Billy has commented about RTB's "vocal layering" and anyone who knows RTB's past work should be more than familiar. The difference is there's usually more than one person's vocals being used in the layering, at least for most of his past projects.

From everything i've seen/read, it seems like originally RTB was only going to be a partial contributor like Terry Date was. Then along the way BC & JC fell in love with RTB's work (which isn't bad by any means, just different for a Pumpkins album) and so they ended up using him on even more tracks and taking his advice on tracks that were originally supposed to be produced 100& by BC & JC themselves. Even Tarantula, if i remember correctly, was credited to just BC & JC on the Z album, but then credited to RTB as well, on the cd-single.

I see, that makes sense, then. I shall blame Roy for it all from now on. :)

Well then to rephrase, I hope they stay away from RTB for at least a little while. :) Because I like diversity in instrumentation more than layered vocals.

gimme some Flood.

^^^^^^

Yes

Flood's production on MCIS is very flat.... I remember being very disappointed with the production of that album.

Holy shit, you guys are RIGHT.

This song is way better when listened to in high-quality

And people bashed me for not wanting to hear shitty quality 30 second Tarantula clip when it came out. When I heard the song the first time, it was the REAL THING at the official listening party in Chicago. I was blown away.

Edit: i got mine in Arlington Heights, on the way home from work.

cough cough only one? cough

320kbps mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/byo3ay)

wav (http://www.sendspace.com/file/szy9bn)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u100/Lucifers_Heir/buddy_christ.jpg

awesome, thanks!

320kbps mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/byo3ay)

wav (http://www.sendspace.com/file/szy9bn)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u100/Lucifers_Heir/buddy_christ.jpg

thanx alot, davin!

actually amazing song..
how awfully compressed that video's sound was.

i asked in the other thread... i'll ask here:

did people care as much when Acendo came out 12 years ago?
cause if i remember it was "hey look, they donated an instrumental track on that comp"

is it just me or is there no bass to speak of in this song?

its just you. :)

i mean, there's tons of thunderous bass drumming plus the bass line that accentuates the main guitar riff....are you perhaps just referring to the bass guitar break-down that we used to hear from ginger during the aol sessions and other previous live versions?

i asked in the other thread... i'll ask here:

did people care as much when Acendo came out 12 years ago?
cause if i remember it was "hey look, they donated an instrumental track on that comp"

i don't think there was near as much controversy surrounding the band at that point (aside from jimmy killing melvion, but i'm not sure it had happened yet), the internets wasn't as widely used to circulate music, there was no video for it, and acendo wasn't any kind of attempt to show off guitar/drumming muscle.

320kbps mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/byo3ay)

wav (http://www.sendspace.com/file/szy9bn)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u100/Lucifers_Heir/buddy_christ.jpg

nice one

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/smashing-pumpkins/

^ HELL YEA!!! thats an awesome pic!!!

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/smashing-pumpkins/images/header.jpg

not bad indeed. definitely great wank material

unshaved head and fluffy eyebrows

you find them attractive too?

LOL NO!

^ thats an awesome pic!!!

you think it was taken whilst recording superchrist?

cough cough only one? cough

stop coughing, i got you one.

flac of davin's wav can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5b9b0dd14bb75b7d8c9e7c56ba37815f050ac46a 069cd505

also: a vbr mp3 (v 2) of the same wav, and the flash video of superchrist.

edit: omg thank you so much, davin. :rockon:

you think it was taken whilst recording superchrist?

possibly...looks like it was taken in a studio.

edit: omg thank you so much, davin. :banging:

I called the Guitar Center in Brooklyn & when they put me on hold, Superchrist was playing. But they still don't have it yet.

dammit, there aren't any guitar center's anywhere near here. :(

That page reads like one of the Guitar Center radio commercials.. I wonder if there will be a new one where he mentions SP

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/smashing-pumpkins/

For 31 years, March means one thing for musicians…

Look for the Green Tags and save on all the gear you need. Starting Friday, February 29th, Guitar Center’s 31st Annual Green Tag Savings Event is ON, and every Green Tag means savings of up to 20% and more off our regular GC prices! You’ll find the greatest deals of the year on widest selection of top-name gear in every department – guitars, amps, drums, keyboards, recording, live sound, lighting and DJ gear.

In this guide, we’ve showcased some of the hottest equipment Guitar Center has to offer. Keep your eyes peeled for new arrivals, GC exclusives, just-added markdowns, new Platinum pieces, special package pricing and much more. Plus, when you see Green Tags it means extra savings right at the register!

This month, Guitar Center proudly features an exclusive interview with Smashing Pumpkins masterminds Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin. They talk about their techniques in the studio, recording an exclusive track for Guitar Center’s Fresh Cuts Vol. 2 CD, and offer a few veteran tips for up-and-coming bands.

Be sure to get in to Guitar Center and pick up a free copy of Guitar Center’s Fresh Cuts Vol. 2 CD. Smashing Pumpkins helped hand-select upcoming artists from across the nation to showcase on this compilation.

dammit, there aren't any guitar center's anywhere near here. :(

i'll go grab one and send it to you if you wanna, shannon. :)

PM me your info, and i'll do it tonight.

caine walker you're my hero :love:

careful Caine, next she'll be asking you to bring her burger king! ;)

shiiiiit, i'll give 'er some of the King.

This song is just really really good.
i'm gonna go ahead and assume it's this way because this is how billy wants to be perceived.
a big huge "WE ROCK FUCKING HARD, and FUCKING HARDER THEN ANYONE ELSE"
this track does just that.
it's pure guitar and drum muscle
2:45 chugging is fucking awesome, and crazy complex
jimmy is a fucking monster! I'm glad he's getting his change to shine!


wish we could get the "official" lyrics
love is his pain ???

davin and caic: a big thankyou from me to you...both!

Sweet ass pic. Billy's got some hair.

In terms of rock,superchrist is what I had in mind a third of Zeitgeist would be like when Billy championed the album as a true return to RAWK! (or whatever words he used).

Then I heard the album and was literally confused at first...like, thinking "this isn't even close to as heavy as he duped me into believing". Listen to Superchrist's raw production. Nice!

Granted, Zeitgiest (minus the goofy backing vocals) is a step in the right direction from Machina 1, but pre-Z I was happy to express my confidence that Billy would be back to form after hearing him describe his intentions. Raw and heavy. In my mind there was no way he could mess that up. ...only he didn't actually go for that at all. **sigh** Don't get me wrong. I like Zeitgeist. But I only like it in a way that I like a lot of albums.

Granted, Superchrist is unfinished with respect to songwriting in my mind. But I'm trying to talk about the general direction Billy decided to go in more than I am about Superchrist specifically, especially since Superchirst didn't even make B-side status (accompanying a single).

its just you. :)

i mean, there's tons of thunderous bass drumming plus the bass line that accentuates the main guitar riff....are you perhaps just referring to the bass guitar break-down that we used to hear from ginger during the aol sessions and other previous live versions?


yeah I'm referring to that part in the breakdown, but even in the rest of the song - I can't hear the bass guitar at all! FUCK!

thanks for this, by the way.:banging:

this song ain't that great.

yeah I'm referring to that part in the breakdown, but even in the rest of the song - I can't hear the bass guitar at all! FUCK!

thanks for this, by the way.:banging:

You're not crazy. The actual bass guitar is low in the mix (or perhaps they high-passed it at 100 freaking Hertz like they describe in that one interview as a Roy Thomas Baker trick). But the guitars and drums are dripping in low-end so it wouldn't surprise me if it was intentional.

Davin/anyone else in Chicago area,

Did they have quite a bit left at the Arlington Heights location? I'm thinking of going there this Saturday to pick one up...thanks.

I agree that the guitars have enough low end that the bass isn't totally missed.

The song is fantastic in higher quality, you can really hear the interplay between Billy and Jimmy which propels the song. I never really noticed before, and it helps lessen the boredom from the repetition off the riff.

Still needs a guitar solo though.

careful Caine, next she'll be asking you to bring her burger king! ;)

ha!

Thanks!

this is gonna make great workout music

if anyone can grab me a copy...i'd be happy to make some kinda trade to show my appreciation...what?..hell i don't have much..some blank cds? whateva. i'll mail in advance...

pm me, thanks a lot to anyone

i went to guitar center twice and the monkeys didnt have a clue what i was talking about. the second time theyre like uhhhh check back in like two months. if any picks up a few extra copies could you send me one? i'll pm you my info

I was told March 11th is the date they're being shipped to the GC in NYC, but they won't get them until 13th or 14th.

I went to Guitar Center in NYC last night and they have the CD. For those in the NYC area, its available so go pick it up. There was only two left copies left.

Davin/anyone else in Chicago area,

Did they have quite a bit left at the Arlington Heights location? I'm thinking of going there this Saturday to pick one up...thanks.

hah, that place is hilarious.

Davin/anyone else in Chicago area,

Did they have quite a bit left at the Arlington Heights location? I'm thinking of going there this Saturday to pick one up...thanks.

yes, they have plenty. both the entrance and exit countertops were full of them.

if you call, they'll put one aside for you.

You're not crazy. The actual bass guitar is low in the mix (or perhaps they high-passed it at 100 freaking Hertz like they describe in that one interview as a Roy Thomas Baker trick). But the guitars and drums are dripping in low-end so it wouldn't surprise me if it was intentional.

I agree that the guitars have enough low end that the bass isn't totally missed.

The song is fantastic in higher quality, you can really hear the interplay between Billy and Jimmy which propels the song. I never really noticed before, and it helps lessen the boredom from the repetition off the riff.

Still needs a guitar solo though.

yea, the low-end thing makes sense.

and i think it needs the screams more than it needs a solo.

if anyone can grab me a copy...i'd be happy to make some kinda trade to show my appreciation...what?..hell i don't have much..some blank cds? whateva. i'll mail in advance...

pm me, thanks a lot to anyone

i went to guitar center twice and the monkeys didnt have a clue what i was talking about. the second time theyre like uhhhh check back in like two months. if any picks up a few extra copies could you send me one? i'll pm you my info

sorry guys, all 5 of my extra copies are spoken for. they'll all be going international to folks that couldn't get them otherwise.

if i have time i might be able to stop again sometime between now and the end of the weekend, i'll let you know if i do. i've also sent a bunch o flocal friends there to get their own copies...so i might be able to get one of the m to grab an extra as well...if they haven't gone already.

ha!

:smoke:

hey man, you going to any of the radiohead shows down there? i've got tix to the dallas show and am thinking abotu hooking up houston if i can find a good deal on ebay, since i'm flying down there already.

I just got back from the NYC store in Union Square. They have shit-loads of them at the accessories counter.

FYI, here is a scan of all the artwork & CD for those interested: http://www.mediafire.com/?m1y1legyzzy

I just got back from the NYC store in Union Square. They have shit-loads of them at the accessories counter.

glad they put more cd's out on the counter. going after work today to get more.

I might be able to grab an extra copy for someone on the board here. I'll let you guys/girls know if I do.

thanks for the scans. now i don;t have to do it. :D

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guitar center guy is holding a copy for me. he said they're running out really fast. im gonna run down there in a couple hours. i need to bring my guitar in anyway. the action is so low my e doesn't resonate whatsoever

up that action
you gots to be resonatin'
low e

cheers davin.

did anybody rip the full cd yet?

I want to hear the rest of it!

I'm sorry if I missed this, but I didn't read through the whole thread...

Is this CD free?

Is this CD free?

yes.

I called my local guitar center today and asked about the CD. She said "hang on, lemme check."

She came back after some murmuring in the background and said, "yeah, we have a couple copies left." I asked, "volume two?" and she said "yeah, the new one."

I headed down and spoke to the five people on the floor, two of which claimed to be the store manager and they had no idea what the fuck I was talking about, or were too high to understand. Finally, after fucking around with a p bass for a while, I gave up and headed out. I decided to ask some kid who looked no older than 16 who was standing at the entryway and he said, "Oh yeah, there's a sweet Pumpkins track on it which is fuckin' sick!" I played dumb told him I was interested in the Spectre track and he was all... "yeah, man it's fuckin' sick too! They did an instore..." and started blabbing on. I said "yeah man, when will you get them in" and he was all "I dunno, soon man. Keep checkin' back and rollin' those sweet bass riffs, maann."

*note: I can't play bass for shit and I was just playing the four notes I do know.

I then went to fucking Happy Hour at the bar next door and had a Happy Hour.

ah, adventures in the city.

i like stories.

did anybody rip the full cd yet?

I want to hear the rest of it!

yea dude...post 143 page 4.

I called my local guitar center today and asked about the CD. She said "hang on, lemme check."

She came back after some murmuring in the background and said, "yeah, we have a couple copies left." I asked, "volume two?" and she said "yeah, the new one."

I headed down and spoke to the five people on the floor, two of which claimed to be the store manager and they had no idea what the fuck I was talking about, or were too high to understand. Finally, after fucking around with a p bass for a while, I gave up and headed out. I decided to ask some kid who looked no older than 16 who was standing at the entryway and he said, "Oh yeah, there's a sweet Pumpkins track on it which is fuckin' sick!" I played dumb told him I was interested in the Spectre track and he was all... "yeah, man it's fuckin' sick too! They did an instore..." and started blabbing on. I said "yeah man, when will you get them in" and he was all "I dunno, soon man. Keep checkin' back and rollin' those sweet bass riffs, maann."

*note: I can't play bass for shit and I was just playing the four notes I do know.

I then went to fucking Happy Hour at the bar next door and had a Happy Hour.

this is exactly why i fucking hate guitar center. guh.

i asked in the other thread... i'll ask here:

did people care as much when Acendo came out 12 years ago?
cause if i remember it was "hey look, they donated an instrumental track on that comp"

In case anyone (like me) hasn't heard Ascendo, I found this on Rapidshare:

http://rapidshare.com/files/39089522/Smell_the_Fuzz.rar

Whole album with artwork, 320kbps mp3.

did anybody rip the full cd yet?

I want to hear the rest of it!

i can do this if anyone's interested or if no one's done it yet

up that action
you gots to be resonatin'
low e

yeah i kinda fucked up when i didn't get a new setup after changing gauges from 10s to 9s. i was told once with my bridge i wouldn't have to do that. the guitar guy said no you have to do that regardless what kind of bridge. he really liked my guitar and because the neck wasn't adjusting the way he wanted it to he didn't want to do anything too extreme to the tension so 3 days later it would be all fucked up. so im gonna have to take it into a shop they recommend.

i figured it was action too but who knows. i don't want to drive 40 mins again just to do this but oh well.

davin 23
ciGarski 16
Caine Walker 14
Cool As Ice Cream 13

it's good to see davin is still neglecting his kids.

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SINE!

If anyone gets a chance id love to have a rip superchrist...If anyone can help me let me know...Thanks in advance. No Guitar Centers around here =(

nevermind just read the whole thread =)

damn sendspace!

damn sendspace!
http://rapidshare.com/files/97362134/Superchrist.zip
:)

Don't act like you won't be all over the download.

i still havent dowloaded it, just saw the video, heard enough...........:erm:

might be one of my least favorite SP songs. I am curious to hear the music billy and jimmy chose though

i wonder how many songs on the cd are better then superchrist?

They finally have it at the San Francisco Van Ness location, plenty of copies

The North Dallas location now has copies of it. I picked up two yesterday.

4519 LBJ Freeway
Farmers Branch, Texas 75244

Anyone in the Seattle area found copies of the CD yet? I was at the Totem Lake GC last night and they didn't have it.

i wonder how many songs on the cd are better then superchrist?

0.

davin 23
ciGarski 16
Caine Walker 14
Cool As Ice Cream 13

it's good to see davin is still neglecting his kids.

i have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

Store in San Antonio, TX has it. I hope I never have to set foot in that place again.

why do ppl hate guitar center so much?

uuuh, have you <i>been</i> to one?

Guitar Center isn't bad. It all depends on what department you go into. The acoustic guitar guys in NYC are always nice and knowledgeable, and the dudes behind the accessories counter are always nice. It's more the wanna-be rocker customers the store attracts that give it a bad name.

noooo. no. it's not the customers so much as the douchebags who work there.

i picked up a used guitar there, was seriously considering purchasing it, but wanted more information. you know, where it had come from, if there were any things of note that i should be aware of, etc. the guy took it from me, looked at it, and said, "well, it's got 22 frets, no pickguard, two humbuckers, and a rosewood neck. should i ring you up?"

"why are you talking to me like i've never picked up a guitar before?" and i walked out.

if you really want more stories, i have more to give.

i go in there because every now and then i can find some pretty decent deals on used pedals and other gear. but it PAINS me to do it.

wow, already going for ~$20 each

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=32&from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=superchrist&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=32%26fsoo%3D2

wow, already going for ~$20 each

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=32&from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=superchrist&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=32%26fsoo%3D2

Fucking lame

thanks davin.

wow, already going for ~$20 each

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=32&from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=superchrist&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=32%26fsoo%3D2

Fucking lame

yep it's lame but sellers know people outside of the US want them (like me) :(

I have an extra that I'd love to trade for a hard copy of the American Gothic UK Tour EP. Hit me up if any UKers want to do a swap.

noooo. no. it's not the customers so much as the douchebags who work there.

i picked up a used guitar there, was seriously considering purchasing it, but wanted more information. you know, where it had come from, if there were any things of note that i should be aware of, etc. the guy took it from me, looked at it, and said, "well, it's got 22 frets, no pickguard, two humbuckers, and a rosewood neck. should i ring you up?"

"why are you talking to me like i've never picked up a guitar before?" and i walked out.

if you really want more stories, i have more to give.

i go in there because every now and then i can find some pretty decent deals on used pedals and other gear. but it PAINS me to do it.

Which store was that? That's just pathetic. I've thankfully never had these kind of experiences in the GC's I've been in.

320kbps mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/byo3ay)

wav (http://www.sendspace.com/file/szy9bn)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u100/Lucifers_Heir/buddy_christ.jpg

Thank you Davin for posting this, I couldn't find it anywhere.

I have an extra that I'd love to trade for a hard copy of the American Gothic UK Tour EP. Hit me up if any UKers want to do a swap.

i don't think there are hard copies of the uk tour edition. as far as i know, it's a digital only release. correct me if i'm wrong, because i'd also be interested in a hard copy if it existed.

i don't think there are hard copies of the uk tour edition. as far as i know, it's a digital only release. correct me if i'm wrong, because i'd also be interested in a hard copy if it existed.

That's what I feared, but it kind of throws me off with the "Exclusive UK Tour Edition." I assumed that this was going to be sold "on tour" with these bonus tracks as exclusives. Oh well.