Rockin' Cherub
02-13-2008, 10:27 AM
recommend me some albums i should check out
i've been too busy listening to 70s shit
i've been too busy listening to 70s shit
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View Full Version : good stuff from 2008 Rockin' Cherub 02-13-2008, 10:27 AM recommend me some albums i should check out i've been too busy listening to 70s shit celluloid_love 02-13-2008, 11:31 AM um there hasn't been much good so far. the times new viking album is great. new mountain goats i liked a few tracks at first and have since taken a break from it. i'll go back to it soon and decide whether or not its good. brian wilson shock treatment put out another awesome album, and that's about it. other stuff ive heard: cat power - bad cadence weapon - haven't listened properly yet destroyer - bad mahjongg - haven't listened properly yet but sounds good stephen malkmus - didn't sound like stephen malkmus, could be a good thing, need to listen more Rockin' Cherub 02-13-2008, 11:35 AM so there's a new times new viking album or do you mean present the paisley reich because that is indeed awesome but it came out last year Rockin' Cherub 02-13-2008, 11:36 AM the only good albums i've heard so far were xiu xiu and fuck buttons pale_princess 02-13-2008, 11:41 AM britney- blackout hilary- dignity celluloid_love 02-13-2008, 11:43 AM oh yeah forgot about xiu xiu, it's pretty good but it's kinda business as usual i haven't heard the fuck buttons but i listened to them on myspace and dig them. yeah, times new viking have a new album called rip it off, it's really good celluloid_love 02-13-2008, 11:43 AM and the new boris album is badtoo I'm Hardcore 02-13-2008, 11:45 AM LSD Pond, fucker celluloid_love 02-13-2008, 11:57 AM yeah i can't fucking find it anywhere you prick I'm Hardcore 02-13-2008, 12:32 PM buy it, you fucking miserly cunt smashingjj 02-13-2008, 01:49 PM the fuck buttons album is growing on me and it's quite good indeed charlottefield - what friends are for is very nice i like the new beach house album too also if you don't like meshuggah - obZen you're gay D. 02-13-2008, 02:52 PM Helio Sequence and Vampire Weekend HS because they have some really beautiful songs on the new one, and VW not because they're "blog favorites" or whatever you want to call them, but because the whole album is full of catchy songs. redbull 02-13-2008, 03:46 PM the fuck buttons album is fucking awesome Nidhogg 02-13-2008, 04:06 PM VW not because they're "blog favorites" or whatever you want to call them, but because the whole album is full of catchy songs. ^what he said. teh b0lly!!1 02-13-2008, 04:13 PM if fred durst put out a solo album this year i would definitely tell you to check it out i dont think he has, though ravenguy2000 02-13-2008, 04:46 PM this is my list so far - The Steeldrivers - The Steeldrivers Shelby Lynne - Just a Little Lovin' Fuck Buttons - Street Horrrsing Stephen Malkmus - Real Emotional Trash The Magnetic Fields - Distortion Hot Chip - Made In The Dark Although I've listened to a bunch that I haven't put on the list yet. Maybe I'll do that this evening and keep you all waiting in breathless anticipation. schaadow 02-13-2008, 05:20 PM so there's a new times new viking album or do you mean present the paisley reich because that is indeed awesome but it came out last year i posted a link to it in the ysi thread awhile back. here it is, its still good times new viking - rip it off hxxp://download.yousendit.com/170BF5F21E4D96ED celluloid_love 02-14-2008, 12:43 AM so i heard the fuck buttons and it's really good davin 02-14-2008, 12:50 AM the new black mountain album is awesome. like a modern day jefferson airplane meets sabbath meets gnr meets floyd. be patient with the bright light/light bright song, it gets good. p.s. the new hot chip blows goats. I'm Hardcore 02-14-2008, 12:52 AM i saw Black Mountain on sunday night, fucking awesome I'm Hardcore 02-14-2008, 12:53 AM meets gnr what the fuck, i missed this the first time. Stoner Rock just collectively bitch slapped you Rider 02-14-2008, 01:04 AM on first listen the new Silver Mt. Zion was pretty good. davin 02-14-2008, 01:06 AM i saw Black Mountain on sunday night, fucking awesome you lucky bastard. i'm dying to check them out. davin 02-14-2008, 01:08 AM what the fuck, i missed this the first time. Stoner Rock just collectively bitch slapped you i don't know exactly what it is, but a couple moments make me think of use your illusion. I'm Hardcore 02-14-2008, 01:13 AM they would have been perfect playing a solo show. But the mere fact that they were opening for Dead Meadow... fucking tight shit. I never really cared for them until i heard the new record. They've taken everything good about bands like Blue Cheer, Love, V.U, im really enjoying it. D. 02-14-2008, 01:17 AM Mattcore, did you get the package yet? I'm Hardcore 02-14-2008, 01:19 AM Mattcore, did you get the package yet? i did! thank you, sir. I'll wire you some money once i have your paypal address! :) davin 02-14-2008, 01:38 AM they would have been perfect playing a solo show. But the mere fact that they were opening for Dead Meadow... fucking tight shit. I never really cared for them until i heard the new record. They've taken everything good about bands like Blue Cheer, Love, V.U, im really enjoying it. they've definitely made a big departure since the self-titled record. and it was for the better. good call on the blue cheer. hopefully i will get to see them soon. Edit: hell yea. just got tix for 3/22 @ empty bottle. they're headlining over 2 other bands. I'm Hardcore 02-14-2008, 01:39 AM i like it how so many bands rip off the late 60's these days Shapan 02-14-2008, 01:42 AM matt has so many awesome records from this trip, its so crazy Nate the Grate 02-14-2008, 01:44 AM The Black Kids EP. I don't know if it came out in 2007 or 2008, though. davin 02-14-2008, 01:46 AM i like it how so many bands rip off the late 60's these days yea, like wolfmother. guess its a good year for zep to come back afterall (though most ppl would consider them 70's). but that works for them too, since a lot of so-called indie rock is heading towards a pseudo 70's direction. TuralyonW3 02-14-2008, 03:43 AM that dead meadow black mountain show was absolutely fucking insane celluloid_love 02-14-2008, 05:55 AM but black mountain are gay I'm Hardcore 02-14-2008, 02:25 PM Black Mountain are not gay T&T 02-14-2008, 02:46 PM beach house - devotion mazzy star meets um... mazzy star minus the heroin Nate the Grate 02-14-2008, 03:28 PM I read that mazzy star comparison in some article, I don't remember what it was in. Maybe the paper or something. Or it could have been Rolling Stone. PLAGIARIST. House of Bread 02-14-2008, 03:43 PM stephen malkmus boris silver mt. zion Zorgon 02-14-2008, 04:10 PM on first listen the new Silver Mt. Zion was pretty good. Agreed. Seems like their best since Born Into Trouble. D. 02-14-2008, 04:29 PM the 10 tracks of crap before the 3 actual songs on the silver mt zion...that's the kind of stuff that is annoying. like...why do that? pumpkingrrrl 02-15-2008, 08:53 AM My Ruin - Throat Full of Heart Rockin' Cherub 02-17-2008, 08:09 AM the new boris album is pretty cool! sort of a change of direction for them (which was long overdue) works most of the time. good album. fluxequalsrad 02-17-2008, 12:46 PM beach house - devotion mazzy star meets um... mazzy star minus the heroin do they seriously sound like Mazzy Star? They played a free show here a couple of months ago with some other good bands (Grizzly Bear, Melgrove Band, Akron/family) but I never saw them, I read they were good but I just never went. is this bitch still seeded anywhere? ysi? What does everyone think of new Stephen Malkmus? I find all his solo albums have to be listened to and incubated for a couple of months before I truly love them. I think I kind of liked the wackiness/looseness of Face the Truth more then these minimal-use-of-effects classic rock guitar jams. I guess Real Emotional Trash is kind of like 'Pig Lib + No More Shoes' on alot of tracks. But alot of it is fun so I'll have to get drunk with it a few more times before I have a final say. Rockin' Cherub 02-17-2008, 12:50 PM that times new viking album is good but i think present the paisley reich was better they're still probably my favourite band doing this kind of thing. e.g. royal trux is just annoying. Spaceboy88 02-17-2008, 11:08 PM The Whigs new record is fantastic. Also, The Duke Spirit's new one is worth a listen. Shapan 02-17-2008, 11:22 PM black mountain, delicious, the magnetic fields, xiu xiu, the kills, and hot chip have all had pretty good records so far. a few other albums i havent listened to well enough to judge yet. the new british sea power has been the most disappointing so far, though after open season i shouldnt have been expecting much. Rockin' Cherub 02-18-2008, 08:59 AM one should never expect too much from british sea power the new prurient album is kind of weird but i think i like it even though it sounds like a harsh noise sunno cover album Rockin' Cherub 02-18-2008, 08:59 AM and lsd pond is just mindblowing, the second disk especially, thanks a lot for that matt I'm Hardcore 02-18-2008, 04:34 PM good now that i'm back home, i can start d/l'ing again. what have i missed so far this year? davin 02-18-2008, 08:10 PM The Whigs new record is fantastic. Also, The Duke Spirit's new one is worth a listen. I also find myself REALLY enjoying the new whigs albums!!! Rockin' Cherub 02-19-2008, 08:40 AM let's wait for some more good releases in the weeks to come and listen to silver apples instead strange_one 02-19-2008, 09:57 AM <font color=33FFFF>Tyler Ramsey - A Long Dream About Swimming Across The Sea Syd Matters - Ghost Days Why - Alopecia Clark - Turning Dragon</font> smashingjj 02-20-2008, 06:37 AM that black mountain album is not really interesting to me Mayfuck 02-20-2008, 10:20 AM that Why album is atrocious Rockin' Cherub 02-20-2008, 10:23 AM e.g. royal trux is just annoying. actually i meant pussy galore celluloid_love 02-21-2008, 12:55 AM that Why album is atrocious <img src=""> TuralyonW3 02-21-2008, 01:31 AM but black mountain are gay fuck you. see them live and say that. u r ghey smashingjj 02-22-2008, 09:32 AM anyone heard the Woods Family Creeps album? it's interesting this is everything i heard that was/will be released this year, good and bad Albums Scary Mansion – Every Joke is Half the Truth Charlottefield – What Friends Are For Beach House – Devotion Dead Meadow – Old Growth Goldfrapp – Seventh Tree Genghis Tron – Board Up the House Autistic Daughters – Uneasy Flowers Meshuggah – ObZen Excepter – Debt Dept. Kelley Stoltz – Circular Sounds Autechre – Quaristice Fuck Buttons – StreetHorrsing El Perro Del Mar – From the Valley to the Stars Voicst – A Tale of Two Devils These New Puritans – Best Pyramid Drag the River – You Can’t Live This Way Why – Alopecia Destroyer – Trouble In Dreams Rings – Black Habit A Silver Mt Zion – 13 Blues for Thirteen Moons The Mars Volta – The Bedlam in Goliath Apes – Ghost Games Birds of Prey – Sulfur and Semen The Holy See – Blood Honey Xiu Xiu – Women as Lovers Saviours – Into Abaddon Boris – Smile The Battle of Land and Sea – s/t Born Ruffians – Red, Yellow and Blue MiaMia – Meow Protest the Hero – Fortress Be Your Own Pet – Get Awkward Crystal Castles – s/t Jack Rose – I Do Play Rock ‘n Roll She and Him – Volume 1 LSD Pond – LSD Pond MV and EE with the Golden Road – Getting’ Go Black Mountain – In the Future Woods Family Creeps – s/t Steven Bernstein – Diaspora Suite EP’s Aerial – The Legion of Dynamic Dischord Belong – Colorless Record celluloid_love 02-22-2008, 10:14 AM yeah ive heard that woods album joeir obnoxious vocals ruin it Rockin' Cherub 02-22-2008, 10:17 AM joeri could you upload the be your own pet album smashingjj 02-22-2008, 10:25 AM yes i could. but you could also take it from the uploads thread like i did. Rockin' Cherub 02-22-2008, 10:34 AM do you think it's good smashingjj 02-22-2008, 10:41 AM not really Rockin' Cherub 02-22-2008, 10:47 AM yeah i don't know, they're compared to the yeah yeah yeah's a lot and i don't like their name and the way they look but sean casey and redbull seem to think they're great Rockin' Cherub 02-22-2008, 10:48 AM i know i should simply listen to them but bandwidth is so precious to me smashingjj 02-22-2008, 10:49 AM it's just 40 mb i believe aurel 02-22-2008, 11:10 AM Christing fuck! <img src="http://forums.netphoria.org/image.php?u=1561&dateline=1203697145"> Mayfuck 02-22-2008, 11:12 AM isn't that MV+EE album 2007 Mayfuck 02-22-2008, 11:12 AM that Belong EP as well Rockin' Cherub 02-22-2008, 11:17 AM isn't that MV+EE album 2007 looks like it is smashingjj 02-22-2008, 12:10 PM that Belong EP as well you're spoiling everything TheDarkness67 02-25-2008, 05:18 PM Hey have you guys heard of band called The Black Summer Crush?? They remind me the Beatles with more of an edgy 70’s feel, kinda like Jimi Hendrix and The Who. I wanna know more info on shows and cds!! Any Pumpkin lovers also BSC fans out there?? redbull 02-25-2008, 05:22 PM do you think it's good its not anywhere near as good as their first one. uhh the new devotchka is good Shapan 02-25-2008, 05:33 PM yeah, really like the new devotchka. the new breeders and beach house albums are good too. the new clinic and atlas sound albums feel very underwhelming after a listen, maybe they'll grow on me. i think clinic's best days are just too far behind them. Boycott Graceland 02-25-2008, 06:16 PM that Why album is atrocious this makes me sad. i thought he was going somewhere new after elephant eyelash, but on alopecia the quality of his songwriting and recordings stayed at a standstill, if they didn't backtrack celluloid_love 02-25-2008, 10:32 PM i don't think that's what he meant really why is just embarassing shit Mo 02-25-2008, 11:16 PM new Silver Mt. Zion WHA WHA WHAT?! Rockin' Cherub 02-26-2008, 08:33 AM do you think it's good they suck. Rockin' Cherub 02-27-2008, 12:08 PM i like the thao nguyen album. black mountain is neither great nor shitty. the keyboards kind of suck most of the time though. they're like a lamer comets on fire to me. Mayfuck 02-27-2008, 12:32 PM NSB's Laurie Bird is the clear #1 album for me right now. No toher great albums this year so far but i like High Places Breeders El Guincho Becah House Prurient el perro del mar fuck buttons fredo viola van hunt atlas sound valet sebastian tellier evangelista times new viking depreciation guild and i might be coming around on that neon neon album. Mayfuck 02-27-2008, 12:34 PM forgot about that chris clark. that one's real good. Rockin' Cherub 02-27-2008, 12:47 PM are you already hating women as lovers i don't get what's so great about beach house smashingjj 02-27-2008, 01:45 PM it's not great but enjoyable Mayfuck 02-27-2008, 02:14 PM yeah i never said that album was great. and maybe forgot xiu xiu cause i love them so much that i dont even consider them with other bands anymore. like xiu xiu is a part of my family now. Shapan 02-27-2008, 02:35 PM devotions is just so easy going and atmospheric ive never been one to ask you for recommendations julio but what does the laurie bird sound like mistle 02-27-2008, 03:25 PM these threads are not for me. i can never remember what i've heard or when it's from Mayfuck 02-27-2008, 03:54 PM devotions is just so easy going and atmospheric ive never been one to ask you for recommendations julio but what does the laurie bird sound like first track is a 40 minute drone fest so i doubt you'd like it. its very ambient lots of indistinguishable instruments that gradually bubble to the forefront coalescing into noise toward the end. otherh two tracks i admit aven't listened to in their entirety but more of the same, a bit more noisy. D. 02-27-2008, 04:05 PM The only stuff I super like from this year so far is the Vampire Weekend album, Helio Sequence, Nada Surf, Duke Spirit, British Sea Power, and Teenagers i like the following (in varying degrees) enough to not delete: Autechre- Quaristice Balmorhea- River Arms Beach House - Devotion Blood On the Wall - Liferz Cadence Weapon - Afterparty Babies Clinic - Do It! Earth- The Bees Made Honey In the Lions Skull Flogging Molly - Float Hello, Blue Roses- The Portrait Is Finished, and I Have Failed To Capture Your Beauty Hinterland - Pan Pan Medico Kill Hannah - Hope For the Hopeless Magnetic Fields - Distortion Malcolm Middleton - Sleight of Heart Mars Volta - Bedlam In Goliath Sleep Station - The Pride of Chester James Taken By Cars - Endings of a New Kind Unisex- Stratosfear ravenguy2000 02-27-2008, 05:08 PM El Guincho Is there consensus on what year we're calling this? Allmusic and Amazon are listing this as 2008 but p4k has it as 2007. It's really good either way, I'd like 2008. Maybe that's the U.S. release. redbull 02-28-2008, 09:03 PM the new Mae Shi album is rather excellent Rockin' Cherub 02-29-2008, 10:35 AM i have wanted to check that band out forever, redbull is their new one a good start smashingjj 02-29-2008, 12:01 PM start with terrorbird if you don't mind me coming between redbull and you maoi 02-29-2008, 03:45 PM D., upload cadence weapon and blood on the wall redbull 02-29-2008, 03:47 PM I think I had terrorbird or heartbeeps and found it to be unlistenably spazzy (of course that was a few years ago before my mind was developed) but the new album is alot more cohesive. It reminds me of and punkier version of menomena. Sonic Johnny 02-29-2008, 09:56 PM obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen obZen celluloid_love 02-29-2008, 10:31 PM witch hats - cellulite soul this album is fucking :rockon: D. 02-29-2008, 10:35 PM D., upload cadence weapon and blood on the wall will do when i get home from work, promise. Zorgon 02-29-2008, 11:16 PM Kill Hannah - Hope For the Hopeless I already know the answer, but is there any chance this is miles above their last two albums? D. 03-01-2008, 12:28 AM I already know the answer, but is there any chance this is miles above their last two albums? well, this is an outtakes album, but to answer your question, not really. they've kinda fallen into the same place the pumpkins have for me - the (new) songs will never be as good as the old ones, but it's listenable. Zorgon 03-01-2008, 03:13 AM well, this is an outtakes album, but to answer your question, not really. they've kinda fallen into the same place the pumpkins have for me - the (new) songs will never be as good as the old ones, but it's listenable. Hm, interesting. Cool to see Big Shot and Goodnight Goodbye finally get a release. Am I seriously considering downloading this? Yes, I am. D. 03-01-2008, 04:06 AM Hm, interesting. Cool to see Big Shot and Goodnight Goodbye finally get a release. Am I seriously considering downloading this? Yes, I am. yeah, I always thought (the new version of) Big Shot had hella potential besides a spot on a Viva La Bam compilation. btw, as soon as i bought it, i uploaded it: http://woundedtodeath.blogspot.com/2008/01/kill-hannah-hope-for-hopeless-2008.html smashingjj 03-01-2008, 11:31 AM i'm listening to The Dodos - Visiter and although it sounds like a total animal collective ripoff at certain points, it sounds very promising Rockin' Cherub 03-04-2008, 03:34 PM so the new nick cave sounds a lot like grinderman D. 03-04-2008, 04:39 PM will do when i get home from work, promise. ok when i get home tonight, i promise I'm Hardcore 03-04-2008, 11:22 PM Blood On The Wall fucking suck I'm Hardcore 03-04-2008, 11:22 PM god seriously, anyone can get on stage and play power chords for half an hour maoi 03-04-2008, 11:38 PM okay so i'm really liking neon neon now. bump it in my car to work in the morning. Shapan 03-05-2008, 12:59 AM the new stephen malkmus record is pretty good the blood on the wall album isnt fun enough I'm Hardcore 03-05-2008, 01:00 AM you're damn right its not fun the lead singer is a fat fuck Shapan 03-05-2008, 01:01 AM maybe its julio I'm Hardcore 03-05-2008, 01:06 AM Julio would make better music. I'm Hardcore 03-05-2008, 01:15 AM oh btw, i heard Vampire Weekend for the first time today. it brought me perilously close to mindless violence nagroc 03-05-2008, 05:23 AM Mars Volta's Bedlam in Goliath really worth a listen D. 03-05-2008, 12:56 PM god seriously, anyone can get on stage and play power chords for half an hour oh btw, i heard Vampire Weekend for the first time today. it brought me perilously close to mindless violence :mad: Caine Walker 03-05-2008, 01:07 PM oh btw, i heard Vampire Weekend for the first time today. it brought me perilously close to mindless violence YES. seriously, i don't get the hype. another group of nonthreatening, skinny white boys playing downtempo pop songs. yeah, that's just what the world needs right now. ps, i laughed really hard when i read that the drummer was in a hit and run accident. maoi 03-05-2008, 01:19 PM ive only heard the single from vampire weekend and i really like that song. maoi 03-05-2008, 01:20 PM D. should upload vampire weekend, cadence weapon and blood on the wall. I'm Hardcore 03-05-2008, 03:10 PM :mad: Blood On The Wall are seriously horrible. *turns on Peacebone*... D. 03-05-2008, 03:31 PM D. should upload vampire weekend, cadence weapon and blood on the wall. VW mediafire.com/?1jzthzxk1tz D. 03-05-2008, 03:32 PM blood on the wall - liferz mediafire.com/?ch0ojuxwqd5 D. 03-05-2008, 03:33 PM Blood On The Wall are seriously horrible. *turns on Peacebone*... all of a sudden, everything is ok I'm Hardcore 03-05-2008, 03:34 PM tbh lead singer of Blood On The Wall is cromag man D. 03-05-2008, 03:41 PM holy crap he is! http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/Saltlick/Sub%2001/botw.jpg look at the blood on his face from his fresh kill! I'm Hardcore 03-05-2008, 03:44 PM i cant believe they shared a stage with Dead Meadow/Black Mountain Rockin' Cherub 03-05-2008, 04:04 PM why both of those bands aren't very good I'm Hardcore 03-05-2008, 04:09 PM yes, yes they are you are WRONG for disagreeing with me Alex. Wrong. D. 03-05-2008, 05:19 PM D. should upload cadence weapon rapidshare.com/files/97356525/cw_-_ab.rar.html maoi 03-05-2008, 09:56 PM :) :) thanks, D. *kiss* MrPantyFAce 03-05-2008, 10:04 PM theres been no eminem in 08 so the year has basically been a write off... lets face up to it. he's saying what everyone of us here is thinking but hes the only one who has the balls to say it Rockin' Cherub 03-06-2008, 07:36 AM yes, yes they are you are WRONG for disagreeing with me Alex. Wrong. no you are wrong. your opinion is just wrong. so wrong in fact that if i put the parameters "deadmeadow" and "blackmountain" into this very complicated mathematical function of mine it would print out a 200 page essay about how wrong you are. I'm Hardcore 03-06-2008, 02:10 PM http://forums.netphoria.org/image.php?u=7061&dateline=1204367584 mccririck 03-07-2008, 01:41 PM Anyone heard the new Black Francis? smashingjj 03-07-2008, 05:25 PM fleet foxes - ragged wood good stuff i think i already mentioned this but i haven't seen people talk about it yet. my recommendations are superior to anyone's here, so listen to it Rockin' Cherub 03-09-2008, 12:11 PM the first blank dogs album is good, maybe even better than some of their singles and the new earth album gets better with every listen davin 03-09-2008, 08:04 PM add The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia and Portishead - Third to the 08 list 'o goodness. smashingjj 03-10-2008, 01:08 PM add The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia to the 08 list 'o goodness. add you to the list of badness? redbull 03-10-2008, 01:08 PM oh theres a new Free Kitten record coming out. davin 03-10-2008, 02:52 PM add you to the list of badness? sh'mon...you Know it, you Know Shapan 03-11-2008, 10:35 AM really enjoyed the new mount eerie, the these united states album is pretty good too though i need to listen to it more. the new tokyo police club and tapes n tapes both have their moments but have felt underwhelming so far.. still havent gotten around to the black keys and a handful of others that could be good. davin 03-11-2008, 01:36 PM i feel the same way about Tapes n Tapes, and am starting to warm up to the Black Keys. anyone here like the new Barronness or Evangelicals records? smashingjj 03-11-2008, 02:22 PM which baroness? davin 03-11-2008, 02:39 PM red album. i guess technically its an 07 release, but i didn't get it until recently. :blush: celluloid_love 03-14-2008, 03:55 AM so here's my good stuff list so far tallest man on earth - shallow graves my disco - paradise times new viking - rip it off the mountain goats - heretic pride witch hats - cellulite soul earth - the bees made honey in the lion's skull brian wilson shock treatment - hammer of the metal gods fuck buttons - street horrrsing the dirtbombs - we have you surrounded excepter - debt debt and i'm about to listen to this new cheveu Rockin' Cherub 03-14-2008, 09:06 AM i must say that i like the new portishead album, even if some parts do sound dated to me. oh and the new religious knives album is superb maoi 03-14-2008, 10:02 AM glad you bumped this. listened to the new scott tuma last night and its great. and the high places grown on me. but hmm that portishead album might be my favorite album so far. weird, in more than 10 years i have never liked that band. Rockin' Cherub 03-14-2008, 10:18 AM it's better than their second album imo ravenguy2000 03-14-2008, 11:18 AM ones i really like now The Steeldrivers - The Steeldrivers The Tallest Man On Earth - Shallow Graves Kat Flint - Dirty Birds The Felice Brothers - The Felice Brothers Shelby Lynne - Just a Little Lovin' Hercules & Love Affair - Hercules & Love Affair Punch Brothers - Punch MGMT - Oracular Spectacular Dolly Parton - Backwoods Barbie The Breeders - Mountain Battles ryan patrick 03-14-2008, 02:44 PM blank dogs, natural snow buildings, growing ep, pocahaunted lp, fuck buttons, goslings it's been ok this year but nothing major redbull 03-14-2008, 04:35 PM man man - rabbit habits maoi 03-14-2008, 06:22 PM MGMT huh Rockin' Cherub 03-15-2008, 09:01 AM blank dogs, natural snow buildings, growing ep, pocahaunted lp, fuck buttons, goslings it's been ok this year but nothing major what do you think of the new religious knives record and the new birchville daydreamer999 03-15-2008, 05:32 PM wow i hadn't noticed how awesome rockin' cherub's avatar is until right this second daydreamer999 03-15-2008, 05:35 PM what do you think of the woods family creeps album joeri? smashingjj 03-15-2008, 08:56 PM not much. it grabbed my interest at first but the songs are quite weak if you ask me. do you like it? where have you been? I'm Hardcore 03-16-2008, 01:06 AM "The Tallest Man On Earth" probably the most ridiculous band name in history. fucking hell D. 03-16-2008, 01:11 AM i really didn't like that TMOE. :\ ryan patrick 03-16-2008, 02:19 AM what do you think of the new religious knives record and the new birchville i didn't like the religious knives record the birchville one gunpowder temple of heaven? not bad but probably not one i will listen to much. I'm Hardcore 03-16-2008, 02:41 AM have you heard Naked Acid, dude? ryan patrick 03-16-2008, 04:04 AM i actually didn't download that album because the cover art was so goddamn hideous i've heard a few good things about it though so i'll probably download it if i can be fucked to find a link I'm Hardcore 03-16-2008, 04:05 AM its awesome, there's a link for it in the YSI thread Rockin' Cherub 03-16-2008, 08:17 AM i can't say i really dig naked acid. Rockin' Cherub 03-16-2008, 08:18 AM the new goslings album doesn't seem as good as grandeur of hair after two listens, which is a slight disappointment ryan patrick 03-16-2008, 03:46 PM no i don't like occasion as much as grandeur of hair at all, or even as much as spaceheater and between the dead. it's uneven, but i threw it on the end of my list because most everything else i've heard this year is still worse. Rockin' Cherub 03-16-2008, 05:20 PM the new r.e.m. album sounds exactly like monster but it's of course not as good because a) it's been done before and b) it doesn't have let me in and some other songs on it. and i'm not even saying monster was good. r.e.m. is just like u2 now. realising their late 90s electronica "experiments" only made them more cheesy and going back to a boring alt rock style. with horrible drumming. and an obviously aging michael stipe. but some pretty awesome bass lines. AndySlash 03-17-2008, 11:09 AM Yeah, I really picked up on the bass playing in this one. Quiet CD 03-17-2008, 09:08 PM the new Mae Shi album is rather excellent Yes x 10000000000 Quiet CD 03-17-2008, 09:24 PM deciding if i like the new animal collective ep, or if the aquatic theme has been taken to literally. Rockin' Cherub 03-29-2008, 01:03 PM wow, guitar trio is my life by rhys chatham. this sure is better than a crimson grail but the decision to make this longer than three hours and repetitive as hell is completely beyond me. one track would have been enough. seriously man. that guy is nuts. that bon iver album is weird, it sounds so much like phosphorescent and still i don't really like it. needs a few more spins. for some reason i really enjoy "not for nobody" by scott tuma. apparently some ex-alt country guy but the music is mostly instrumental, acoustic, ambient and quite pretty i must say. the tallest man on earth - shallow grave is a very solid folk / singer-songwriter album celluloid_love recommended to me. amazing swedish singer and catchy, too i don't know what to think of neon neon. some catchy parts but overall sort of crappy. needs further listening. the new portishead album is really not as great as i first thought and yes, it does sound dated. i sort of grew to hate the fuck buttons album too. don't ask me why. but the new prurient is superb! ravenguy2000 03-29-2008, 01:15 PM a ton of stuff has leaked and i haven't had much time to listen to anything for the past couple weeks. need to get on that new matmos this afternoon i hope. maoi 03-29-2008, 03:39 PM I don't know what to think of the new M83 yet. maoi 03-29-2008, 03:40 PM also does anyone still care about notwist? new album is decent but i have a feeling its gonna grow on me. I'm Hardcore 03-29-2008, 07:14 PM Birds Of Maya - 'Vol.1' AWESOME ravenguy2000 03-29-2008, 09:18 PM I don't know what to think of the new M83 yet. oh yeah that, too. ravenguy2000 03-29-2008, 10:10 PM oh hell yeah i can rock to this matmos, everybody get this if you like squeaky squishy pretty dated sounding synth noodling JapanAlex 03-29-2008, 10:55 PM imo there is only one good song on M83 so far best albums 2008: 1. Black Mountain 2. The Whip 3. The Mars Volta 4. Black Kids 5. Cut Copy 6. Cat Power (cos of metal heart) 7. Devotchka 8. Gnarls Barkley 9. MGMT Kentaro 03-29-2008, 10:56 PM Looking forward to Daniel Lanois' Omni Series: "For every song of mine that gets released there is an abundance of material that does not. These pieces, often favorites of mine remain unheard, so Red Floor and I have decided to release this body of work as The Omni Series. At the moment we are planning six cds. Each will be thematically assembled to represent a certain part of my work. For example, one will be called Steel, featuring steel guitar instrumentals that I love, some of them recorded during the Slingblade Teatro era, and others more contemporary. They are melodic, serene, and transporting, the sort of cd that I personally love to hear. Another, provisionally titled Midnight, will feature more south of the border psychedelic material that could be viewed as a cousin to Belladonna. So keep an eye on the Red Floor site for specifics on release dates and so on. This work of course will be available as a digital download in full resolution at the same price as MP3 resolution. Your support on this is appreciated, conventional record company expectations do not allow for material like this to flourish into the market place, but we are believers and I think you will be too." THE OMNI SERIES - Daniel Lanois We will begin releasing the Omni Series albums later this year. This should be great. I'm a big fan of Belladonna. celluloid_love 03-29-2008, 11:22 PM Grey Daturas - Return To Disruption leaked http://sharebee.com/efe5d4a8 TuralyonW3 03-30-2008, 04:40 AM Birds Of Maya - 'Vol.1' AWESOME yes this destroys I'm Hardcore 03-30-2008, 04:53 AM how did i know that you'd be the first to comment on that? :) Rocket Launcher 03-30-2008, 09:56 AM That new Destroyer album seems ace..anyone got a link? TuralyonW3 03-30-2008, 12:47 PM how did i know that you'd be the first to comment on that? :) I heard that vol. 2 will be hawaiian polka D. 03-30-2008, 03:19 PM I don't know what to think of the new M83 yet. i love it! daydreamer999 03-31-2008, 01:47 AM not much. it grabbed my interest at first but the songs are quite weak if you ask me. do you like it? where have you been? oh i quite like it but i agree that it's nothing spectacular really - i find them more interesting when they're not playing songs, which is a shame becuase i really liked at rear house by them i've been busy and not home much Rockin' Cherub 04-01-2008, 05:56 PM have we talked about vampire weekend yet? this is probably totally out of character for me but i enjoy most of what's on this album. it's like fela kuti meets the shins meets talking heads meets wolf parade I'm Hardcore 04-01-2008, 06:07 PM wtf you actually like that shit?? Rockin' Cherub 04-01-2008, 06:10 PM the songs that actually have some sort of afrobeat influence, yes. i would dance to this, would i dance. I'm Hardcore 04-01-2008, 06:21 PM i just hear guys making incredibly cheesy annoying music that i could only enjoy while on copious amounts of speed. Rockin' Cherub 04-01-2008, 06:24 PM well do you like any of the bands i mentioned or any non-heavy rock music at all I'm Hardcore 04-01-2008, 06:29 PM im listening to alot of heavy rock music at the moment, yeah. that Bon Iver record is pretty decent, as is the new Black Keys. 2008 has been pretty uneventful so far IMO. Lets see... robert martin - 'long goodbye' experimental aircraft - 'third transgression' daniel menche - 'body melt' folk spectre - 'blackest medicine' drag the river - 'you cant live this way' thats about it, so far. Rockin' Cherub 04-01-2008, 06:32 PM i'm not talking about folk / acoustic kind of stuff. do you like rock music that isn't heavy? do you like talking heads? any new wave? sometimes it seems like the only music you like that could definitely be identified as rock is all heavy down tuned riffs, 60s/70s psych influence and guitar solos. a nebula avatar certainly doesn't help. I'm Hardcore 04-01-2008, 06:36 PM i'm not talking about folk / acoustic kind of stuff. do you like rock music that isn't heavy? do you like talking heads? any new wave? sometimes it seems like the only music you like that could definitely be identified as rock is all heavy down tuned riffs, 60s/70s psych influence and guitar solos. a nebula avatar certainly doesn't help. yeah well, this is what im listening to most at the moment. dont you go through phases, at all? Wilco is rock music that isnt heavy. My Morning Jacket is rock music that isnt heavy. I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME ALEX I'm Hardcore 04-01-2008, 06:36 PM i do enjoy the Talking Heads, although i could take or leave alot of their stuff. Rockin' Cherub 04-01-2008, 06:40 PM ok. i forgot you liked my morning jacket. check out early 80s post punk / new wave dance music like pylon or the very first r.e.m. albums. definitely one of my favourite kinds of music and the reason i can enjoy things like vampire weekend. I'm Hardcore 04-01-2008, 06:45 PM you think i dont listen to post-punk. jeez, whats going on with you? i really dont see any connection whatsoever between early REM and Vampire Weekend. i dont really like Pylon too much Rockin' Cherub 04-01-2008, 06:49 PM i don't mean all post punk obviously. only the stuff that later grew into new wave when it became dancier and poppier. stuff like the feelies. don't take all this too seriously i just thought most guitar/bass/drums bands that don't play slow and heavy would annoy you. i was mistaken. good night. I'm Hardcore 04-01-2008, 06:52 PM man ravenguy2000 04-01-2008, 09:16 PM have we talked about vampire weekend yet? I was crazy about the Blue CD-R last year and I kinda played it to hell and back. I hear the actual album is mostly a re-recording of the songs on that so I haven't listened to it yet, I want to give it some time so I can listen again with some fresher ears. cocksure 04-28-2008, 05:46 PM i've listened to 63 albums that were released this year now and almost all of them are mediocre what is wrong man? the xiu xiu one is the only one that's actually consistent and kind of interesting D. 04-28-2008, 05:58 PM I was crazy about the Blue CD-R last year and I kinda played it to hell and back. I hear the actual album is mostly a re-recording of the songs on that so I haven't listened to it yet, I want to give it some time so I can listen again with some fresher ears. i did this, only with the actual album. i have played it A LOT since it leaked. i've had to stop myself from complete over-listen. D. 04-28-2008, 06:00 PM updated Top list for me: Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend Helio Sequence- Keep Your Eyes Ahead M83 - Saturday = Youth Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours Horrorpops - Kiss Kiss Kill Kill The Gifted Children - Whitespace Differences Panda Riot - She Dares All Things In Flight Radio - The Sound Inside Elika- Trying to Get Us Nowhere Duke Spirit - Neptune Autumn's Grey Solace - Ablaze Goldfrapp - The Seventh Tree British Sea Power - Do You Like Rock Music? Nada Surf - Lucky Miimi - Ephyra Russian Red - I Love Your Glasses Sleepmakeswaves - In Today Already Walks Tomorrow Teenagers - Reality Check Fuck Buttons - Street Horrrsing that's pretty much the order i'd put them in, with a few minor changes cocksure 04-28-2008, 06:14 PM yeah vampire weekend is fun but it's not great it's like a 6.5/10 but you put nada surf above fuck buttons so i'm basically talking to myself here ravenguy2000 04-28-2008, 06:40 PM this is my top ten now The Steeldrivers - The Steeldrivers The Tallest Man On Earth - Shallow Graves Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours Kat Flint - Dirty Birds The Felice Brothers - The Felice Brothers Shelby Lynne - Just a Little Lovin' Hercules & Love Affair - Hercules & Love Affair Sun Kil Moon - April Matmos - Supreme Balloon Punch Brothers - Punch i have a lot more listed but this is all from this year i would seriously recommend to most people so far, the rest gets a bit more suspect in quality D. 04-28-2008, 06:47 PM but you put nada surf above fuck buttons so i'm basically talking to myself here well, anything after in flight radio gets murky. i have to update it as the year goes on. but, no, fuck buttons are going to be towards the bottom of it regardless - it's ok... i mean, better than just "ok", but not great TheMilstead 04-28-2008, 06:54 PM the songs that actually have some sort of afrobeat influence, yes. i would dance to this, would i dance. In the words of my friend: "I gave Vampire Weekend a try recently. It made me want to run in circles and break shit." TheMilstead 04-28-2008, 06:54 PM well, anything after in flight radio gets murky. i have to update it as the year goes on. but, no, fuck buttons are going to be towards the bottom of it regardless - it's ok... i mean, better than just "ok", but not great That makes me sad, D. D. 04-28-2008, 07:10 PM That makes me sad, D. i'll be listening to it again, maybe it'll click after a few more listens. stranger things have happened! Shapan 04-28-2008, 09:38 PM um top 10ish so far the kills - midnight boom devotchka - a mad & faithful telling the french kicks - swimming xiu xiu - women as lovers the roots - rising down beach house - devotion cloud cult - feel good ghosts mount eerie - black wooden ceiling opening tokyo police club - elephant shell the duke spirit - netpune greymedallia 04-28-2008, 11:50 PM I think this stuff is pretty good, but certainly nothing monumental yet: Samamidon - All Is Well Beach House - Devotions Carl Craig - Sessions Justus Kohncke - Safe and Sound AZ - Undeniable Xiu Xiu - Women as Lovers Thee Oh Sees - The Master's Bedroom is Worth Spending a Night In Pete Rock - NY's Finest I almost put Sian Alice Group on too, but it's really not even close to as interesting as I would like to be. Mo 04-28-2008, 11:54 PM No idea, so many. Right now I can think of: Kettcar - Sylt Tocotronic - Kapitulation Live Portishead - Third Dresden Dolls - No, Virginia Erm... JapanAlex 04-29-2008, 12:52 AM portishead - third black lips - good bad not evil boris - statement chin chin - chin chin cut copy - in ghost colours dandi wind - concrete igloo ladyton - velocifero man man - rabbit hands (okish) marnie stern - in advance of the broken arm MGMT - oracular spectacular possessed by paul james - cold and blind the dillinger escape plan - ire works tokyo police club - elephant shell (love the songs but album is a bit dull aaw) the whip - x marks destination the tallest man of earth - shallow graves the roots - rising down (getting a bit dull) the mars volta - the bedlam in goliath phew! pretty long list - i don't know how much wasn't actually released in 08 so sorry if I seem silly for posting it D. 04-29-2008, 01:05 AM Dresden Dolls - No, Virginia really? listening to this actually made me realize how much i actually don't likr them. i mean, i've liked their singles and whatnot, but i went back and listened to their previous albums and i didn't enjoy them. Mo 04-29-2008, 01:08 AM really? listening to this actually made me realize how much i actually don't likr them. i mean, i've liked their singles and whatnot, but i went back and listened to their previous albums and i didn't enjoy them. I'm a huge DD fanboy, so... I dunno. They didn't put too much stuff on it I hadn't heard before [in concert or on boots], but again - I'm a fanboy, I don't really care. cocksure 04-29-2008, 06:58 AM i think these are all relatively good, like a 7.5/10 or more xiu xiu - women as lovers Religous Knives - it's after dark blank dogs - on two sides robert martin - long goodbye scott tuma - not for nobody elektronavn - Cosmic Continuum boris - smile the tallest man on earth - shallow grave Prurient - And Still, wanting ecstatic sunshine - way no age - nouns thao - we brave beestings and all sun kil moon - april not counting compilations. there were some good compilations of old shit this year cardiac 04-29-2008, 08:22 AM Any thoughts on the new Coldplay single "Violet Hill"? <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IfmeQCgFIjI&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IfmeQCgFIjI&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> Sounds rather dull and uninspired on first listen, maybe it'll grow on me. Posted this here just for the sake of letting people know they have a new single out without the embarassement of making a thread about it. I'm quite sure there are a few fans of the band here. talk show host 04-29-2008, 09:05 AM Looking through some of the lists in this thread makes me realise how pityfully little new music I've actually bothered to listen to so far, and it's almost May. What's weird is nearly all the albums I have bothered to check out I've liked to some extent or another. I guess there's benefits to being selective/lazy. Tyler 04-29-2008, 06:29 PM No one likes the new Neva Dinova? I'd say it's my favourite of the year so far. MrE 04-29-2008, 06:54 PM Any thoughts on the new Coldplay single "Violet Hill"? <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IfmeQCgFIjI&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IfmeQCgFIjI&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> Sounds rather dull and uninspired on first listen, maybe it'll grow on me. Posted this here just for the sake of letting people know they have a new single out without the embarassement of making a thread about it. I'm quite sure there are a few fans of the band here. dull and uninspired pretty much sums up any coldplay song but here is the album http://rapidshare.com/files/111268526/violeta.rar from REINZIDENCIA Shapan 05-09-2008, 03:02 PM so now that some time has passed to digest it, how does everyone like third? i only just got around to listening to it, its the first portishead album ive listened to, and i dig it after a couple of listens. might check their older stuff now because of it. waltermcphilp 05-09-2008, 03:05 PM their earlier stuff is more accessible i think. the new record kinda freaked me out. haven't listened to it since the leak. smashingjj 05-10-2008, 07:15 AM that the tallest man on earth album is good and i still don't like dylan Shapan 06-04-2008, 01:27 AM the new okay album is really good Sonic Johnny 06-04-2008, 01:48 AM these will def. make my top albums of the year: Earth - The Bees Made Honey In The Lions Skull Genghis Tron - Board Up The House NIN - Ghosts Disfear - Live The Storm Torche - Meanderthal Justin Broadrick + Jarboe - J2 Meshuggah - ObZen Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold These are all pretty decent: NIN - The Slip This Will Destroy You - s/t Dub Trio - Another Sound Is Dying Nick Cave - Dig! Lazarus Dig! Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life these are pretty dissapointing: Melvins - Nude In Boots Opeth - Watershed Portishead - Third my money is on the new Nachtmystium and Mastodon records being good contenders for the top spot though. Nothing/everything 06-04-2008, 09:15 AM am i a retard for liking the Titus andronicus album? smashingjj 06-04-2008, 10:59 AM the new okay album is really good i really liked his last band but i don't really like this one. what the fuck is up with the band name 'okay' in the first place greymedallia 06-04-2008, 03:08 PM Samamidon - All Is Well Beach House - Devotions Carl Craig - Sessions Justus Kohncke - Safe and Sound AZ - Undeniable Xiu Xiu - Women as Lovers Thee Oh Sees - The Master's Bedroom is Worth Spending a Night In Pete Rock - NY's Finest Added: Nat Baldwin - Most Valuable Player Ellen Allien - Sool Matmos - Supreme Balloon 28if 06-04-2008, 06:29 PM Why? - Alopecia is without a doubt my favourite record of the year so far. Probably will remain so. Narrow Stairs - Pretty good IMO. Surprised at how much I like it, definetly a step up from Plans. April - Fucking amazing. Took a few listens to really get into it, but it's become one of my favourite Kozelek releases. Sloan- Parallel Play, just got into this band a few weeks ago but I'm really digging this release. They're playing here in a few weeks too I'm pretty pumped they seem like they would be a lot of fun live. Red Album - Couldn't really get into it. Got about halfway through and got bored. I'll give it another chance eventually but I wasn't really impressed at all with what I heard. That's about all I've heard from 2008 so far I think. TheMilstead 06-04-2008, 07:18 PM Fuck Buttons M83 NIN Microphones rerelease Probably more than that. Shapan 06-04-2008, 09:05 PM i really liked his last band but i don't really like this one. what the fuck is up with the band name 'okay' in the first place im dling both of the dilute albums now im gonna interview marty some time next week :) commando 06-04-2008, 09:16 PM No one likes the new Neva Dinova? I'd say it's my favourite of the year so far. Of course I like it. Jake Bellows is one of my fav. song writers. I haven't really had time to absorb it, though. I really like the new Black Francis EP Seven Fingers and the new Dandy Warhols. celluloid_love 06-04-2008, 11:40 PM witch hats - cellulite soul valet - naked acid eddy current suppression ring - primary colours times new viking - rip it off terrible twos - terrible twos tallest man on earth - shallow grave robert forster - the evangelist nothing people - anonymous my disco - paradise graham lambkin and jason lescalett - the breadwinner fag cop - i'm fucking dead 7" earth - bees made honey cheveu - cheveu brian wilson shock treatment - hammer of the metal gods the barbaras - summertime road 7" probably some shit i'm forgetting Shapan 06-05-2008, 06:13 PM i just finished the wedding present's album, its good. theres a lot of stuff that reminds me of early pumpkins in there. and their singer isnt a nasal fuck either. ratatat's new album might be their best. greymedallia 06-06-2008, 08:38 AM I really like the new Black Francis EP Seven Fingers I forgot about this --- great little record. So much better than Bluefinger. dishpan 06-06-2008, 10:00 AM wow, guitar trio is my life by rhys chatham. this sure is better than a crimson grail but the decision to make this longer than three hours and repetitive as hell is completely beyond me. one track would have been enough. seriously man. that guy is nuts. that bon iver album is weird, it sounds so much like phosphorescent and still i don't really like it. needs a few more spins. for some reason i really enjoy "not for nobody" by scott tuma. apparently some ex-alt country guy but the music is mostly instrumental, acoustic, ambient and quite pretty i must say. the tallest man on earth - shallow grave is a very solid folk / singer-songwriter album celluloid_love recommended to me. amazing swedish singer and catchy, too i don't know what to think of neon neon. some catchy parts but overall sort of crappy. needs further listening. the new portishead album is really not as great as i first thought and yes, it does sound dated. i sort of grew to hate the fuck buttons album too. don't ask me why. but the new prurient is superb! i like rockin cherubs post because instead of just making a list of new albums, it also has a description of what they sound like. that way it doesnt matter if i agree or disagree, i just have some kind of guide for what to try. so far this year i like the mars volta, sun kil moon, my morning jacket, weezer, i think i hate vampire weekend. d celluloid_love 06-06-2008, 10:19 AM i forgot sun kil moon even though it's like the 2nd best thing ive heard this year dishpan 06-06-2008, 02:45 PM oh i like the new OURS record a lot too daydreamer999 06-08-2008, 05:42 AM witch hats - cellulite soul valet - naked acid eddy current suppression ring - primary colours times new viking - rip it off terrible twos - terrible twos tallest man on earth - shallow grave robert forster - the evangelist nothing people - anonymous my disco - paradise graham lambkin and jason lescalett - the breadwinner fag cop - i'm fucking dead 7" earth - bees made honey cheveu - cheveu brian wilson shock treatment - hammer of the metal gods the barbaras - summertime road 7" probably some shit i'm forgetting cool |