View Full Version : From SP.com: "European Landing"


drossbullet
01-29-2008, 09:25 PM
The Mighty SP has arrived safely in Europe.

The band has been rehearsing feverishly and with stunning results. After a 6 hour run-through this afternoon, the new show and lighting set up is ready to go!

There are 15 songs that will be in the line-up for this tour that were not played during the 2007 tour. What will they include? Wait until tomorrow to find out when we post the setlist on SP.com!

Also, straight from Billy Corgan himself:

"We are very excited and feel this is a strong step forward towards both the future and honoring the past... Oh, and I got new clothes :) everybody else too!"



Expect a smashing 2008!

???
01-29-2008, 09:27 PM
first

brillo998
01-29-2008, 09:28 PM
im moderately excited. moreso for the new clothes.

Fritter
01-29-2008, 09:29 PM
Oh, and I got new clothes :) everybody else too!"
God no.

mayday
01-29-2008, 09:29 PM
"oh and i got new clothes.." =)

flyfire
01-29-2008, 09:30 PM
he actually said "I got new clothes", pft

mayday
01-29-2008, 09:33 PM
new clothes is a good thing =)

flyfire
01-29-2008, 09:36 PM
a 40 year old saying (or the person who updates the site quoting him as saying) I got new clothes and then a smiley face is hilarious

cork_soaker
01-29-2008, 09:37 PM
suits stitched from the finest invisible cloth in the land

mayday
01-29-2008, 09:39 PM
yeah it's adorable

Gish08
01-29-2008, 09:40 PM
Geek USA, Ruby, I Am One

They better play these fucking songs.

Corganist
01-29-2008, 09:44 PM
I hope "We got new clothes" means "We realized that we looked ridiculous on the last tour, and we're gonna to try to correct that."

But I'm more excited about what the setlist will be.

the sellout
01-29-2008, 10:19 PM
I'm betting that the clothes will be exact-fucking-ly the same, but in black. Anyone else?

dustrock
01-29-2008, 10:21 PM
"We are very excited and feel this is a strong step forward towards both the future and honoring the past... " Interesting about "strong step" towards the future. Possibility of brand new songs?

15 new songs? Guessing Stellar, Ma Belle, Again x3, Pox, Sunkissed, and then 10 old songs.

Gish08
01-29-2008, 10:23 PM
Hopefully they will retire Neverlost.

Fritter
01-29-2008, 10:28 PM
I'm betting that the clothes will be exact-fucking-ly the same, but in black. Anyone else?
Probably.

Also 15 songs? Didn't it used to be 12? Sweet.

Spaceboy88
01-29-2008, 10:32 PM
Maynoaise? Geek USA? One can only dream.

Gish08
01-29-2008, 10:36 PM
Here Is No Why would be sweet. Hasn't been played in eons.

Banana
01-29-2008, 10:47 PM
Wonder what type of fruity costume he's got planned.

dustrock
01-29-2008, 11:06 PM
maybe he'll wear a mask, or some kind of weird makeup a la Michael Stipe.

Banana
01-29-2008, 11:14 PM
I want to see him dress like an animal, like some native american. Wear a coyote head as a hat.

the sellout
01-29-2008, 11:29 PM
I want him to wear an "i fucked D'arcy" shirt for the rest of the tour.

Who's with me?

redbull
01-29-2008, 11:29 PM
I want him to wear an "i fucked D'arcy" shirt for the rest of the tour.

Who's with me?

DEBASER

Caine Walker
01-29-2008, 11:31 PM
there's like, 8 or 9 people in this thread who need to get laid worse than i do.

avsfan7733
01-29-2008, 11:38 PM
i hope they bring out an enhanced 99 floors

1100ww
01-29-2008, 11:43 PM
new stage lighting rig, eh?

Thomas
01-30-2008, 12:09 AM
"Oh, and I got new clothes"

Get ready for the lolfest !!

loser2d
01-30-2008, 12:15 AM
Do you think the dismantle the other lighting rigs to make the new ones?
Because if they dont it must be pretty expensive.

hummer26
01-30-2008, 12:23 AM
I am really hoping for a Kelly Capowski duet w/Corgan......maybe they can cover "the boy" by Iha.

Tobias Funke - "I am never nude"

JRiordan
01-30-2008, 12:54 AM
They keep increasing the new songs count! Originally it was 8-9, then 10-12, now 15!! Geek USA is practically guaranteed now! :rockon:

Hoping for some early 90's flashy/colorful shirts too

loser2d
01-30-2008, 01:30 AM
I have a feeling that they are going with XYU as one of the "new" songs because I think Billy feels bad for not playing for the kid.

markpregen
01-30-2008, 01:40 AM
^Billy feels bad for not playing "The Boy"

loser2d
01-30-2008, 01:52 AM
I guess everybody on here wants to hear "The Boy".

ChristHimself!
01-30-2008, 03:11 AM
I just hope strtj becomes a feature in the setlists. They must realise how much the fans were going nuts over it.

Sarcastic Smile
01-30-2008, 03:57 AM
They keep increasing the new songs count! Originally it was 8-9, then 10-12, now 15!! Geek USA is practically guaranteed now! :rockon:

Hoping for some early 90's flashy/colorful shirts too

Oh, are their "guarantees" worth something now?

He said the rest of them got new clothes.. I thought Billy was the only one with a an outfit and the rest just tried to match him each day, last year.. so are they all going to have uniforms now? If they are, will they each alternate between only two like Billy did? White and Blue right?... hey wait a minute:idea:, i bet their outfits will be red.. that fits their whole theme ...ha red, genious:erm:

whywontyoulistn
01-30-2008, 05:40 AM
suits stitched from the finest invisible cloth in the land

heh...my thoughts exactly.

topleybird
01-30-2008, 10:36 AM
Please come out dressed as Captain America, please come out dressed as Captain America...

Eulogy
01-30-2008, 10:46 AM
I just hope strtj becomes a feature in the setlists. They must realise how much the fans were going nuts over it.

he knows every song we go nuts for and has generally kept a pretty large portion of them out. i don't think he lets us dictate what he plays. at all.

arCHI
01-30-2008, 10:55 AM
that seems true. it seems like a lot of fan favorites have been forgotten about. that makes you wonder why he plays bwbw at every show. i mean, if he wants to play what he wants to play then you think that would apply across the board.

stripes
01-30-2008, 10:58 AM
What will they include? Wait until tomorrow to find out when we post the setlist on SP.com!


Oh please mighty SP, share with us your glory:eek:

rolmos
01-30-2008, 11:07 AM
I'm curious about how Superchrist will sound like today (if it is played). The arrangement will probably be similar to the one that was recently recorded.

xezton
01-30-2008, 11:25 AM
So like, is there someone over there that's going to stream us live photos of the concert like with Grand Rex? :)

Eulogy
01-30-2008, 11:42 AM
i could personally go without ever hearing another rendition of Bullet. is it even a fan favorite? i mean everyone knows it and shows excitement when it's played, but i can think of.......150 songs i would much rather hear than bullet.

dustrock
01-30-2008, 12:07 PM
Please come out dressed as Captain America, please come out dressed as Captain America...

5/5

Mr. Mister
01-30-2008, 02:01 PM
Billy: Captain American
Jimmy: The Green Lantern
Everybody else: dresses

xezton
01-30-2008, 03:05 PM
For some reason in this thread, whenever I see "Captain America" I read it as "Captain Planet". Much funnier.

ben94gt
01-30-2008, 03:23 PM
since when did everyone start actually believing things he promised?

Caine Walker
01-30-2008, 03:51 PM
i could personally go without ever hearing another rendition of Bullet. i can think of.......150 songs i would much rather hear than bullet.

nooooooooooo kidding.

Rickpat12
01-30-2008, 05:23 PM
I say one night of all 15, that'd be kick ass.

arCHI
01-30-2008, 05:29 PM
nooooooooooo kidding.

yeah my point was not that bwbw is a crowd pleaser, but just that it is recognized. if they never played it again i think we would live. i,for one, would probably be better off.

hummer26
01-30-2008, 06:54 PM
I guess everybody on here wants to hear "The Boy".

Yes..."the boy" would be great if Iha made a cameo accompanied by Hanna Monana.

Ryan Seacrest - "I dont like girls, Seacrest out"

Eulogy
01-30-2008, 06:56 PM
hasn't this show started?

where are the updates?

markpregen
01-30-2008, 07:00 PM
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=156009

Eulogy
01-30-2008, 07:05 PM
yeah i recognized my error pretty quickly. but i hate those threads.

Hummer
Ruby

OMG THEY PLAYED RUBY?

no that's a fake

Drown
Lily

OMG THEY PLAYED LILY?

yeah i can't believe it!!

markpregen
01-30-2008, 07:12 PM
^
i'm waiting for official setlist on sp.com, but we do have this:
http://smashingpumpkins.com/tour_97

mayday
01-30-2008, 08:08 PM
my blue heaven?!

wow awesome. i love that song and the way he sings it. it so charming and lovely!

mayday
01-30-2008, 08:15 PM
Porcelina is one I would like to hear when I see them next. There were a lot of nice newly learned songs in the list. =)
I wonder what the "new clothes" are though. hmmm I'm sure someone took pics..

markpregen
01-30-2008, 08:18 PM
Porcelina is one I would like to hear when I see them next. There were a lot of nice newly learned songs in the list. =)
I wonder what the "new clothes" are though. hmmm I'm sure someone took pics..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/acidofil/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2229/2231905674_88314870bf.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/2231110931_dd10e3e0a6.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2219/2231904880_84062d3ec9.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2180/2231904600_16e4402f57.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2231903904_d817ecf77c.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/2231109337_659bc0996d.jpg

mayday
01-30-2008, 08:27 PM
Wow. Is that like a ruffley long skirt that he's wearing? hmmm. Would not have guessed he'd pull the skirts and such out for this show. But there we have it! Looks like Ginger is sporting a skin tight pants and top outfit and Jeff is blazin in his red suit. What did Jim wear?

The stripes are gone? Thank you good Lord above =)

Teej212
01-30-2008, 08:28 PM
machina clothes cool!

mayday
01-30-2008, 08:30 PM
thank you for posting those markpregen

markpregen
01-30-2008, 08:31 PM
just copied from the tour thread.. someone else tipped me off to them

mayday
01-30-2008, 08:32 PM
cheers =)

wHATcOLOR
01-30-2008, 08:34 PM
<img src=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/2018276938_72072a850e.jpg?v=0> this was also in that account, i wonder if it's from the sp show

wHATcOLOR
01-30-2008, 08:34 PM
<img src=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/1946453938_515625449e.jpg?v=0> oh cool, this too

Rickpat12
01-30-2008, 08:34 PM
yum!

Superstarla
01-30-2008, 09:41 PM
Billy's skirt (is it really a skirt?) looks like sth between mciss silverpants and machina's black skirts. Oh lord...

markpregen
01-30-2008, 11:35 PM
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/w3-381J842c&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/w3-381J842c&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

andrewface
01-31-2008, 01:11 AM
MAYONAISE woooot!

andrewface
01-31-2008, 01:13 AM
and wat the fuck is he wearing bring back the siamese shirts!

LOL @ perfect best version ever

Reyngel
01-31-2008, 02:24 AM
JELLYBELLY.



You know it's going to happen.


My other guesses:

-Love
-The Aeroplane Flies High
-Geek USA


At least one of those four will be played at some point, guaranteed.

loser2d
01-31-2008, 02:33 AM
Aeroplane has already been played.

1100ww
01-31-2008, 02:50 AM
JELLYBELLY.

Please, dear God. :rockon:

xezton
01-31-2008, 08:06 AM
Oh fucking yes. Those clothes are awesome. I love Jeff's all-red get-up. And Billy's stuff is cool as well.

Hooray! The good ol' Pumpkins are coming back!

redbreegull
01-31-2008, 08:07 AM
*waits for more videos to surface*

AndyX
01-31-2008, 08:17 AM
I´m going to see the show tonight :)

PopeDonzel
01-31-2008, 11:23 AM
they need to get out europe. quit playing in fucking foreign countries.

mattisnotfrench
01-31-2008, 11:44 AM
they need to get out europe. quit playing in fucking foreign countries.

Other people besides Americans like SP. SP like visiting other countries. You just had a 2+ month tour last fall.

Esty
01-31-2008, 11:45 AM
Other people besides Americans like SP. SP like visiting other countries. You'll have to get used to it.

Don't you know America is the only country that matters. Fucking dick.

Reyngel
01-31-2008, 12:53 PM
Seriously?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2231903904_d817ecf77c.jpg
http://www.my-mistake.net/infinitepics/james/james166.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/2231109337_659bc0996d.jpg
http://www.my-mistake.net/infinitepics/billy/billy452.jpg

PopeDonzel
01-31-2008, 01:02 PM
Don't you know America is the only country that matters. Fucking dick.

exactly

Banana
01-31-2008, 01:12 PM
WTF is corgan wearing?

And America is the only country that matters, but it's cute that you foreigners thing otherwise.

Forgotten Child
01-31-2008, 01:36 PM
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/uSaAzhpzXZs&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uSaAzhpzXZs&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

xezton
01-31-2008, 01:41 PM
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/uSaAzhpzXZs&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uSaAzhpzXZs&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

The sound in that video reminds me of what this song would sound like through a See 'n Say.

xezton
01-31-2008, 01:43 PM
Seriously?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2231903904_d817ecf77c.jpg
http://www.my-mistake.net/infinitepics/james/james166.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/2231109337_659bc0996d.jpg
http://www.my-mistake.net/infinitepics/billy/billy452.jpg

Seriously what?

They ARE the Smashing Pumpkins. They're allowed to wear stuff that the Smashing Pumpkins have worn.

It's 9,000% better than the white prison garb costumes.

skipgo
01-31-2008, 01:50 PM
i dislike billy's new outfit at least as much as i disliked the oompa loopma getup.
i'm starting to come to terms with the fact that I'll never like billy's clothes again.

hnibos
01-31-2008, 01:53 PM
i cant believe jeff wore a red suit.

the sellout
01-31-2008, 02:12 PM
<img src=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/1946453938_515625449e.jpg?v=0> oh cool, this too


But really, i didn't need to see THIS side of Courtney...

Banana
01-31-2008, 02:13 PM
I like the red suit and thats about it.

The dress is weird, and I prefer Ginger in skirts.

Forgotten Child
01-31-2008, 02:33 PM
Try Try Try

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fvM-NHbqMLw&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fvM-NHbqMLw&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

xezton
01-31-2008, 02:51 PM
Try Try Try

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fvM-NHbqMLw&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fvM-NHbqMLw&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

Try to 'old on.

suncrashesdown
01-31-2008, 03:01 PM
Man they sound fuckin awesome

kitkat21
01-31-2008, 03:04 PM
Billy in a skirt = pure sex :smoke:

btw. . .I thought he called it a "gauntlier". . or something to that effect. . .wasn't able to find it. . .

commando
01-31-2008, 03:05 PM
Just that his machina dress was made by Gaultier, so that's what he called it...

T&T
01-31-2008, 03:07 PM
billy in a dress gives me tingles down my spine





the good kind
:)

topleybird
01-31-2008, 03:08 PM
"Nice skirt," says Q, by way of friendly introduction. "It's not a skirt," he replies gruffly, pulling back the long flap to reveal two trousered legs. "It a Gaultier." Of course it is.

. . .

It is the final question, though, that ultimately pushes Corgan over the edge. Responding to the query, Who dresses you?, he suddenly flares, and the frown becomes a scowl. "What do you mean who dresses me? I dress me. What do you take me for? A drooling fucking idiot?" So no stylist, then? "That's right, no stylist." But there is a stylist waiting for him in the other room... "She," he intones with deadly seriousness, “is here for the photos, that's all.”

kitkat21
01-31-2008, 03:10 PM
ah- thank you both [:

skipgo
01-31-2008, 03:16 PM
What do you take me for? A drooling fucking idiot?

best quote ever.

xezton
01-31-2008, 03:37 PM
"Nice skirt," says Q, by way of friendly introduction. "It's not a skirt," he replies gruffly, pulling back the long flap to reveal two trousered legs. "It a Gaultier." Of course it is.

. . .

It is the final question, though, that ultimately pushes Corgan over the edge. Responding to the query, Who dresses you?, he suddenly flares, and the frown becomes a scowl. "What do you mean who dresses me? I dress me. What do you take me for? A drooling fucking idiot?" So no stylist, then? "That's right, no stylist." But there is a stylist waiting for him in the other room... "She," he intones with deadly seriousness, “is here for the photos, that's all.”

Haha awesome. :)

mattisnotfrench
01-31-2008, 04:06 PM
WTF is corgan wearing?

And America is the only country that matters, but it's cute that you foreigners thing otherwise.

I'm American, PS.

themadcaplaughs
01-31-2008, 05:59 PM
Sounds like most of the reaction is extremely positive, and you can imagine why...Mayoniase, Lily (My One and Only), Behold! The Night Mare, The Everlasting Gaze, Porcelina of the Vast Ocean, Cash Car Star, and all those others songs in one night. Sound amazing!

commando
01-31-2008, 06:19 PM
Porcelina makes it all worth it... however, night mare, lily, cash car, and the sheer show of brute force that is TEG is reason enough to anticipate a return to the U.S. and another go.

Caine Walker
01-31-2008, 07:29 PM
GAULTIER WAS THE DESIGNER. it's not a *kind* of skirt.

tcm
01-31-2008, 07:36 PM
maybe he meant, "it's not a skirt"... like, "it's not just any skirt"... "this is no ordinary skirt"... "this is the skirt, the ultimate skirt"... maybe.

drowningspider
01-31-2008, 07:44 PM
best quote ever.

Yeah, seriously. There's a glimpse of the Billy I've been missing for the past decade. I miss when he used to get pissed off in every interview. It made me laugh.

Caine Walker
01-31-2008, 07:47 PM
maybe he meant, "it's not a skirt"... like, "it's not just any skirt"... "this is no ordinary skirt"... "this is the skirt, the ultimate skirt"... maybe.

yes.

tcm
01-31-2008, 07:54 PM
fun fact: Jean-Paul Gaultier sponsors an exhibit at the Metropolitan Museum of Art called Bravehearts: Men In Skirts.

mayday
01-31-2008, 08:27 PM
Seriously?

http://www.my-mistake.net/infinitepics/james/james166.jpg



James Iha is so cool.
When I saw Jeff's red suit. I have to admit I did think of James and the various red suits that he's worn. But Jeff looks good in red suits too. I hope Ginger doesn't go with the see thru shirts though in the style of D'arcy during that phase. It doesn't leave enough to the imagination. though i can see how artistically it is beautiful. I just dont go for that.

MisterSquishyHalo
01-31-2008, 08:53 PM
Severin posted a mp3 of tonight's Mayonaise:

Link to Severin's mayonaise. (http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost.php?p=3153545&postcount=102)

MisterSquishyHalo
01-31-2008, 08:54 PM
Try to 'old on.

I really like the backing vocals from ginger/lisa on that song.

Reyngel
01-31-2008, 10:08 PM
Seriously what?

They ARE the Smashing Pumpkins. They're allowed to wear stuff that the Smashing Pumpkins have worn.

It's 9,000% better than the white prison garb costumes.



I never said they weren't allowed to wear that stuff.

My point is that it's so uncreative to just flat out copy the 2000 outfits. Billy in the black dress, James... er, Jeff in the red suit, playing songs like Everlasting Gaze, Cash Car Star and Mayonaise. It just seems so... rehashed.

I just think it'd have been cooler if they broke out all these amazing oldschool songs with a NEW image, rather than one we already saw before.

It also just seems lame for Jeff to wear the same type of outfit James wore at the end of the 2000 shows. It's not like it's that they're both just Asian, or that they're both just the backup guitarists, or that it's that they both just have that shoe-gazer, quiet persona on stage. Now, they're both dressing the same.

You can't ignore the weirdness of Billy in a black dress and Jeff in an all-red suit. That combination isn't really... a coincidence, you know? What are the odds of that?

Forgotten Child
01-31-2008, 10:15 PM
Prague
http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/gallery/pics/jan_30_08.jpg

Vienna
http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/gallery/pics/1.32.08_prelim.jpg

STELLAR!:eek:

darcyismybass
01-31-2008, 10:22 PM
Wtf, Jimmy's wearing his black get up too...

darcyismybass
01-31-2008, 10:23 PM
Mayonaise...

markpregen
01-31-2008, 10:37 PM
Prague:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Jan584/KOT20c532_apump_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Jan584/KOT20c531_apump_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Jan584/KOT20c61f_smash_4.jpg

reprise85
01-31-2008, 10:41 PM
needs more skirt

where did those come from? thanks

xezton
01-31-2008, 10:41 PM
I never said they weren't allowed to wear that stuff.

My point is that it's so uncreative to just flat out copy the 2000 outfits. Billy in the black dress, James... er, Jeff in the red suit, playing songs like Everlasting Gaze, Cash Car Star and Mayonaise. It just seems so... rehashed.

I just think it'd have been cooler if they broke out all these amazing oldschool songs with a NEW image, rather than one we already saw before.

It also just seems lame for Jeff to wear the same type of outfit James wore at the end of the 2000 shows. It's not like it's that they're both just Asian, or that they're both just the backup guitarists, or that it's that they both just have that shoe-gazer, quiet persona on stage. Now, they're both dressing the same.

You can't ignore the weirdness of Billy in a black dress and Jeff in an all-red suit. That combination isn't really... a coincidence, you know? What are the odds of that?

Of course it's not a fucking coincidence. They did it on purpose because that was the band's image when they broke up and they're bleeding back into it purposely.

They hired Jeff and Ginger as replacements for the members who didn't re-join. It makes sense for them to wear the same costumes and take the same stage persona because that's the theme of the band. Off stage they're different people. That's their act.

If an actor for the main role in a play quits, wouldn't you, as the director, find someone who could fit the same role? And wouldn't this, by default, mean that you'll limit yourself to similar actors (similar looks, voice, etc.)?

I think they're allowed to go back to where the pumpkins ended and start from there without losing any creative credibility.

markpregen
01-31-2008, 10:46 PM
needs more skirt

where did those come from? thanks

from a private photobucket linked from myspace

Rickpat12
01-31-2008, 10:50 PM
FUCKING STELLAR!!!!!!!!

Forgotten Child
01-31-2008, 11:02 PM
Prague:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Jan584/KOT20c61f_smash_4.jpg

What's that??? Can I see a redesigned ZERO shirt?

commando
01-31-2008, 11:12 PM
What's that??? Can I see a redesigned ZERO shirt?

Yep. and the one the simpsons first rendered, no less..!

skipgo
01-31-2008, 11:41 PM
looks more like saturn than zero to me. but whatever. Maybe it's both.
those photos are incredible; whoever took them really knows how to wield a camera :)

flyfire
01-31-2008, 11:56 PM
that's saturn. also the collar on that shirt is odd, mock turtle with the bit in front of the adams apple cut out

Forgotten Child
01-31-2008, 11:57 PM
looks more like saturn than zero to me. but whatever. Maybe it's both.
those photos are incredible; whoever took them really knows how to wield a camera :)

Yeah, It looks more like saturn, but it seems like a Ø to me. Can we call him BØlly now?

Sarcastic Smile
02-01-2008, 12:05 AM
i bet their outfits will be red.. that fits their whole theme ...ha red, genious:erm:

:eek:

skipgo
02-01-2008, 12:31 AM
sarcastic smile: soothsayer.

Ugly
02-01-2008, 01:18 AM
I actually kind of miss the garbage men from the future outfits.

stripes
02-01-2008, 10:14 AM
cool setlist

glad iha's finally back

SpFission
02-01-2008, 10:41 AM
Isn't that "Saturn" symbol the same one that was on his guitar strap for the first tour? Also seen in the TTW video.

mayday
02-01-2008, 11:15 AM
it's a glitterball with a ring around it. it looks like a planet with a ring around it.

Billy needs to gain weight. He's very underweight. Certain medications or illegal substances can do that to a person. Also stress or emotional diistress can do that. Maybe he is on a med that he needs for something and it's a side effect. outside of that reason, i really hope he resolves his weight issue. Because as people as they get older there bones, there body, their brain.. etc. need vitamins to function optimally. actually whatever age you are you need to take care of yourself....

sigh...

Forgotten Child
02-01-2008, 11:32 AM
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reprise85
02-01-2008, 11:41 AM
holy shit, billy is fuckin into mayo... 4:00 till the end, the buildup... <3

Caine Walker
02-01-2008, 11:53 AM
Billy needs to gain weight. He's very underweight. Certain medications or illegal substances can do that to a person. Also stress or emotional diistress can do that. Maybe he is on a med that he needs for something and it's a side effect. outside of that reason, i really hope he resolves his weight issue. Because as people as they get older there bones, there body, their brain.. etc. need vitamins to function optimally. actually whatever age you are you need to take care of yourself....

sigh...

maybe he's just FINE with his weight. comfortable with it, even.

cardiac
02-01-2008, 01:05 PM
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jTR0iwIHS3A&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jTR0iwIHS3A&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

Spaceboy88
02-01-2008, 01:08 PM
Where's "My Blue Heaven?"

Banana
02-01-2008, 01:19 PM
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jTR0iwIHS3A&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jTR0iwIHS3A&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

This will be funny when in 2 months they break up again

wHATcOLOR
02-01-2008, 01:23 PM
it's a glitterball with a ring around it. it looks like a planet with a ring around it.

Billy needs to gain weight. He's very underweight. Certain medications or illegal substances can do that to a person. Also stress or emotional diistress can do that. Maybe he is on a med that he needs for something and it's a side effect. outside of that reason, i really hope he resolves his weight issue. Because as people as they get older there bones, there body, their brain.. etc. need vitamins to function optimally. actually whatever age you are you need to take care of yourself....

sigh...



who are you to say what he NEEDS to do

xezton
02-01-2008, 01:34 PM
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jTR0iwIHS3A&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jTR0iwIHS3A&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

Was it just me or did I hear some.... classic banter? :confused: :banging:

kitkat21
02-01-2008, 02:33 PM
.

kitkat21
02-01-2008, 02:36 PM
Prague:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Jan584/KOT20c532_apump_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Jan584/KOT20c531_apump_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Jan584/KOT20c61f_smash_4.jpg


Amazing photos!!! Did you have a photopass or ?

Sarcastic Smile
02-01-2008, 02:42 PM
Isn't that "Saturn" symbol the same one that was on his guitar strap for the first tour? Also seen in the TTW video.

Yes, the same one that is still on his guitar strap...

markpregen
02-01-2008, 02:44 PM
Amazing photos!!! Did you have a photopass or ?

No I had a MySpace pass :) I did not go to this show

Caine Walker
02-01-2008, 02:47 PM
corgan looks fucking ferocious in that last pic. good stuff.

kitkat21
02-01-2008, 03:04 PM
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kitkat21
02-01-2008, 03:05 PM
No I had a MySpace pass :) I did not go to this show

oh! my bad. . .
I'm jealous of the photographer !
my little digital camera can't capture images like that.
My nikon d70 on the other hand. . .but it's not allowed /:

stumpycat
02-02-2008, 02:45 AM
The embroidered patch on his guitar strap is most defnitely "nil set" whereas the logo on his shirt is the planet Saturn (not Jupiter or anything else.) I'm honestly trying to understand what this symbolism means to him, since the two symbols are completely unrelated. I can only guess the sci-fi theme ties in with their choice to dub this tour "the European landing."

The band seems to be giving off a different vibe now, though. Especially Billy. More like, uh...his old self?

tcm
02-02-2008, 03:00 AM
The embroidered patch on his guitar strap is most defnitely "nil set" whereas the logo on his shirt is the planet Saturn (not Jupiter or anything else.)

pardon me how the ~FUCK~ do you know it's saturn, saturn is not the only planet with rings you know, it's just got the most prominent rings, and also does the concept of ambiguity mean anything to you. its all about how it can mean one thing to one person and another thing to someone else. stumpycat!

ben94gt
02-02-2008, 03:06 AM
I hope they play Bodies. I know its been soundchecked, so b0lly needs to play it.

redbreegull
02-02-2008, 03:10 AM
How the fuck did the crowd not go insane when they played Mayonaise? I would have jumped the stage, fallen to my knees, and wrapped my arms around Corgan's legs weeping.

june_soma
02-02-2008, 03:10 AM
I agree with the weight obsessed people. He IS way too skinny.

But even so he looks good, and the pics made me smile. Hmm, do any of you ever touch your computer screen when it shows extra nice pics of Billy's face? I do. There. I've said it.

markpregen
02-02-2008, 03:18 AM
How the fuck did the crowd not go insane when they played Mayonaise? I would have jumped the stage, fallen to my knees, and wrapped my arms around Corgan's legs weeping.

Yeah it would have been interesting to hear the crowd if he first broke out Mayonaise and the other "new old" songs in Chicago instead of Prague

JRiordan
02-02-2008, 03:31 AM
Hmm, do any of you ever touch your computer screen when it shows extra nice pics of Billy's face? I do. There. I've said it.

mayday to thread.

Mablak
02-02-2008, 05:21 AM
I think that saturn symbol is supposed to bear a resemblance to the zero with a slash in it.

(1/i)*(e^ix-cos(x))

edit: damn carrot symbol, oh well you know what I was trying to get at.

tcm
02-02-2008, 11:54 AM
exactly! regardless of what it means it looks ambiguous. Thats the whole point. It looks like the type of thing that is open to interpretation.

slunken
02-02-2008, 12:01 PM
exactly! regardless of what it means it looks ambiguous.

he looks like a character from a 1950's sci-fi flick and i mean that in the best possible way...hopefully his little skirt will make him stop trying to sing so manly

http://lemonodor.com/images/project-moonbase-1-s.jpg

mayday
02-02-2008, 07:45 PM
i just listened to Porcelina and it was beautiful. They sounded really good. Still room for improvement but it was great. =)

mayday
02-02-2008, 08:44 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4162656307202592796&q=%22smashing+pumpkins%22+OR+%22billy+corgan%22&total=11095&start=30&num=10&so=1&type=search&plindex=6

this is great! can't you picture BC dressed up in his top hat outfit singing this. so adorable

bardy
02-03-2008, 02:04 AM
god he sounds horrible in that my blue heaven. like he's not attempting to even sing it nicely

mayday
02-03-2008, 10:10 AM
i wonder why last night's set list isn't posted yet.

Thaniel Buckner
02-03-2008, 11:11 AM
How the fuck did the crowd not go insane when they played Mayonaise? I would have jumped the stage, fallen to my knees, and wrapped my arms around Corgan's legs weeping.
my thoughts exactly.

i think the best part of these shows is that billy has gone back annunciating consonants.

BurtSampson
02-03-2008, 12:15 PM
my thoughts exactly.

i think the best part of these shows is that billy has gone back annunciating consonants.

He's still mumbling like a drunk hobo though.

franzel
02-03-2008, 02:42 PM
i wonder why last night's set list isn't posted yet.

i second that

markpregen
02-03-2008, 02:54 PM
^look in the tour forum, but the setlist was identical to the other nights

fmrees
02-03-2008, 03:01 PM
Yes. The setlist was the same...

fmrees
02-03-2008, 03:02 PM
I am uploading some videos to YouTube and posted pictures in SmashingPumpkins.com

slunken
02-03-2008, 03:17 PM
I am uploading some videos to YouTube and posted pictures in SmashingPumpkins.com

Cool! I hope you got good ones of 1979 and Today! They are my favorites!

fmrees
02-03-2008, 04:14 PM
Cool...

Here is Today...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MBK8oW0jhu4

fmrees
02-03-2008, 04:15 PM
Others are being processed in YouTube...

Porcelina, Rose March, and a few more which I am not sure what they are...

Sarcastic Smile
02-03-2008, 04:30 PM
So I'm pretty jealous they got to here Mayonaise, just wanted to put that out there. Good for them their whole setlist was good.... I hope they play it again if they come back to the states.

markpregen
02-03-2008, 08:55 PM
Cool...

Here is Today...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MBK8oW0jhu4

I think slunken was being sarcastic. For example, people continue to get great footage of Today but we still haven't seen Stellar, despite it being played 4 nights in a row.

JRiordan
02-04-2008, 12:23 AM
The only argument in defense of not taking videos of songs like Stellar is that they're new and you actually want to experience them, instead of worrying about your shitty quality cell phone / digital camera.

Sadly, this is probably not the true reason for the lack of videos.

fmrees
02-04-2008, 03:28 AM
well, we record the stuff for our own pleasure, to watch back home and things like that... the only reason we share on YouTube is because maybe there will be people who like to see it... but I mean, I am not watching a show holding a camera in front of my face and thinking about what others could think... :banging:

yahooooooo, cool concert :cry:

keito
02-04-2008, 03:38 AM
The only argument in defense of not taking videos of songs like Stellar is that they're new and you actually want to experience them, instead of worrying about your shitty quality cell phone / digital camera.

Sadly, this is probably not the true reason for the lack of videos.


there is no lack of videos believe me. You don't know but I know that someone has video recorded the whole Prague show. And since all the setlists are the same it will do :) I will ask him to youtube stellar :)

Cool As Ice Cream
02-04-2008, 04:01 AM
(1/i)*(e^ix-cos(x))

edit: damn carrot symbol, oh well you know what I was trying to get at.

yes

Disarmu
02-04-2008, 08:26 AM
My Blue Heaven..Cudve done without that one..doesnt fit for me..All the hand movements are very disturbing too..