View Full Version : Billy: How weird can I possibly be?


Catherine Wheel
01-15-2008, 12:16 AM
Does it ever seem like Billy is consciouly trying to be strange and eccentric? Like it's an act? At some point it became a trick up his sleave.

I think about the clothes that he was wearing duing Gish and Siamese Dream. Then I think about the clothes he was wearing after that. It's a huge transition. It seems more contrived. The whole image especially during Mellon Collie and Machina seems contrived.

reprise85
01-15-2008, 12:27 AM
maybe it used to be an act but i think he's over it at this point

flyfire
01-15-2008, 12:31 AM
I love how the title of this thread is worded as Billy talking about himself in the third person

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 12:53 AM
other than on stage, i dont find anything strange in the way he dresses now at all. i think what we see on stage isnt billy. its his 'rock star'

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:05 AM
he can't really be putting on silk jumpsuits and knee high stripped socks every day

Banana
01-15-2008, 01:06 AM
He definatly created an act and than became that act from doing it over the years. Now that's really him.

Catherine Wheel
01-15-2008, 01:09 AM
I distinctly remember an awards show from 1998 or 1999 where he came out on stage to present an award and he had on a black dress.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 01:13 AM
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2229798.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0ED727E23B665B140E7 5A5397277B4DC33E


he looks reallly creepy in that picture

i remembered the dress, but i remember shirley being really fucking stoned, or nervous

http://bystarlight.iespana.es/bystarlight/billyshirley.jpg

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 01:13 AM
he was weirdest when on drugs.

Frankenstein
01-15-2008, 01:14 AM
I distinctly remember an awards show from 1998 or 1999 where he came out on stage to present an award and he had on a black dress.

video or beat it

reprise85
01-15-2008, 01:16 AM
if by weird you mean great

Catherine Wheel
01-15-2008, 01:16 AM
I'm sorry, man. I dont have the video. I'm sure someone does though. It will find its way here eventually.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 01:17 AM
haha, pictures arent enough any more.. its like a porn addiction

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:30 AM
is that a scotish nod to shirley - the skirt that kinda looks likea kilt.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 01:34 AM
you edited. cheater

i had a huge crush on shirley when i was in high school, i'll admit it.

when i was in edinburgh i tried finding where she grew up.. i wanted to steal her mail

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 01:37 AM
i developed a crush after she said she can't bake a cake but she can give great head.

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:37 AM
yeah i did cause the picture was posted then i realised what I typed sounded a little :erm:

stealing her mail huh?

isn't there a pic where it seems he's looking down her shirt or was that someone's avatar

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:38 AM
i developed a crush after she said she can't bake a cake but she can give great head.

girl needs to learn how to multitask

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 01:39 AM
with looks like that, head's all i could ever ask.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 01:39 AM
seriously

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:41 AM
they both looked baked here http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2223075.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0ED6C78DC433035BC9E 5A5397277B4DC33E

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:42 AM
with looks like that, head's all i could ever ask.

no girl has ever cooked something for you :(

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 01:43 AM
they both probably were. its weird to think corgan's done more drugs than me. i never associated him with drugs when i was younger. all his cohorts, yes but not him.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 01:45 AM
shit, corgan is the reason i started taking lsd. i used to drop before football games in highschool. i dont know who was more afraid, me or the people i played against. it rocked

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 01:46 AM
no girl has ever cooked something for you :(

to be honest, i've always been the cook in the relationship. i cook for a living right now actually.

i guess thats not entirely true, i dated a girl who turned out to be a complete nut but she made me a new york cheesecake once. it was annoything though because she'd make me some pasta and talk about all the touches she put into it. and its just like dude i don't give a fuck. good for you. go flick your bean to the food network.


sorry for the rant, but yeah no girl has ever been the traditional "cook" for me.

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 01:47 AM
shit, corgan is the reason i started taking lsd. i used to drop before football games in highschool. i dont know who was more afraid, me or the people i played against. it rocked

you played football on acid?


+rep

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 01:47 AM
you played football on acid?


+rep

in college even :D

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:48 AM
rants are cool
so are guys who can cook - all my bf's couldn't cook for shit

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 01:49 AM
i'll make you my chicken parmesan sometime. its to die for

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:49 AM
college guys and acid - those were the days

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:50 AM
i'll make you my chicken parmesan sometime. its to die for

so yum :banging:i love parmesan ++ for you

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 01:54 AM
yeah. its fun though. i never minded the responsibility. however i would want more of a co responsibility when i start a family. ideally.

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:57 AM
^ yeah exactly - hence why i'm no longer with my ex

flyfire
01-15-2008, 01:57 AM
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper932/stills/3c0ffa35e9ad0-32-1.jpg


but he looks odd when dressed liked this asa well

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 01:59 AM
ouch that was a rough topic transition

http://www.prettyfarmer.com/celebrities/billy_corgan_02.jpg

flyfire
01-15-2008, 02:01 AM
I know damn - ^ is he tired or high or both

Frankenstein
01-15-2008, 02:02 AM
no girl has ever cooked something for you :(

it's over rated. especially when they have herpes and I don't

flyfire
01-15-2008, 02:05 AM
lol and gross

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 02:10 AM
^ yeah exactly - hence why i'm no longer with my ex

what do you mean?

flyfire
01-15-2008, 02:16 AM
he is french and his family is loaded - basically he wanted me not to work, forget about grad school, move to france and raise the kids while he and his family's cash took care of eveything
no balance at all

Edit: and from the other thread - his beard was/is awful

edit2: we didn't have kids

ciGarski
01-15-2008, 02:17 AM
oh. i thought you were ragging on me for wanting shared responsibilities.

MistaMista1
01-15-2008, 02:19 AM
wow never seen slingero's b0lly pic before.

is the first page talking about shirley manson?

flyfire
01-15-2008, 02:19 AM
no no, not at all - that's spot on in my book

about half of it is MistaMista1

MistaMista1
01-15-2008, 07:04 AM
hawt.

rolmos
01-15-2008, 07:23 AM
I cook a great Eggplant Sicilian Parmegiana.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 07:26 AM
lets trade recipes

rolmos
01-15-2008, 07:30 AM
:2thumbsup:banoonoo:

flyfire
01-15-2008, 07:42 AM
what makes it Sicilian? other than the recipie is Sicilian? the sauce

???
01-15-2008, 07:55 AM
http://www.prettyfarmer.com/celebrities/billy_corgan_02.jpg

must be pretty frightening being this close to him in person. extreme close up.

flyfire
01-15-2008, 07:57 AM
I just noticed that he's got the beenie down over his ears with headphones on top - muffled sound

wpc33
01-15-2008, 08:20 AM
I just noticed that he's got the beenie down over his ears with headphones on top - muffled sound
.
np: Zeitgeist

smashkin33
01-15-2008, 08:43 AM
I cook a great Eggplant Sicilian Parmegiana.

i too would like this recipe. i love eggplant. i had some amazing eggplant ravioli saturday.

i enjoy cooking, but a lot of times when i get out of work at 5, it's the last thing i want to do. so the indian food i ordered last night was awesome.


and on a related note i guess: we know billy's not a vegetarian, but do you think he's ALL into organic foods, and free range meats, soy products... yadda yadda? i bet he is.

june_soma
01-15-2008, 08:49 AM
and on a related note i guess: we know billy's not a vegetarian, but do you think he's ALL into organic foods, and free range meats, soy products... yadda yadda? i bet he is.

I second that bet.

Anyway, I wonder what Billy is like when he's high. I'v not tried acid (cause I'm a pussy), but drugs are of course mood and personality altering. I wonder what personality traits gets more, uh, visible, when he's high. Most people are unbearable when they're on coke (unless your on coke with them) and I can only imagine what Billy would be like, him having such a strong personality and all.

T&T
01-15-2008, 08:55 AM
billy looks like the kind of guy that'd eats hot dogs and Doritos for dinner
he probably knows it's bad but doesn't give a shit
yet he's smart enough to have a "hired cook" to feed him healthy :)
one less thing to worry about.


or i'm projecting my bad eating habits....

smashkin33
01-15-2008, 09:01 AM
i wish i had the money to have a cook, or a nutritionist on staff. i feel better when i eat healthy.

but i love food so much, and there's a lot of things i'd never be willing to give up. like hot dogs w/ meat sauce, or french fries w/ GRAVY AND CHEESE CURD!!!!!!!

T&T
01-15-2008, 09:05 AM
french fries w/ GRAVY AND CHEESE CURD!!!!!!!
they have a name for that
and it's called poutine
http://blog.daraly.free.fr/phpwebgallery/galleries/Evenements/poutine.JPG
and i'm not a fan.

flyfire
01-15-2008, 09:05 AM
.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill
np: Zeitgeist

didn't work - I can still hear the chorus of billys

smashkin33
01-15-2008, 09:07 AM
they have a name for that
and it's called poutine
http://blog.daraly.free.fr/phpwebgallery/galleries/Evenements/poutine.JPG
and i'm not a fan.

ohh i'm a fan! sometimes we make it @ home, rocking out our family roots.
it looks like a heart attack in a bowl though.
i've dropped the word poutine here before, i'm sorry you missed it :cry:

rolmos
01-15-2008, 11:12 AM
what makes it Sicilian? other than the recipie is Sicilian? the sauce

Sicilian parmegianna uses grated Pecorino cheese (cured sheep cheese) instead of mozzarela or parmesan, and it is almost always made with eggplant. Prosciutto (cured ham) is also used along with the ground meat. Sicilians also use basil.

I'm going to cook this for dinner, and invite some friends over.

smashkin33
01-15-2008, 11:16 AM
i'll be there at 6.

sounds really good. fancy cheeses can get so pricey! prosciutto is great. there's an awesome italian import store near my house, it's on the way home from work which can be a good or bad thing! i really want to make something like that- but it'll have to wait. my big cooking adventure this week will be enchilladas, i already gave my word i'd make them. maybe i'll do homemade salsa w/ extra cilantro too (god i'm so hungry :cry: )

IWishIWasBlank
01-15-2008, 12:22 PM
I love how the title of this thread is worded as Billy talking about himself in the third person

Mods: How can I rewrite the title of this thread to my on personal liking?

skipgo
01-15-2008, 12:28 PM
hey iwishiwasblank, i just remembered that you were the one who emailed me on ebay that one time. haha!

IWishIWasBlank
01-15-2008, 12:38 PM
No shit. You're right. And so the saga began.

*John Williams Music*

Long ago in the not so distant future...

skipgo
01-15-2008, 12:51 PM
you and kahlo are responsible and should be held accountable for my unrelenting presence at the 'phoria.

i have out-posted you by about a million posts.
i should aspire to be more like you. (no, seriously)

Phoenix Down
01-15-2008, 03:09 PM
I love how the title of this thread is worded as Billy talking about himself in the third person

but it's not worded as if in third person. rather first person, isn't it? you are weird.

mayday
01-15-2008, 05:20 PM
ouch that was a rough topic transition

http://www.prettyfarmer.com/celebrities/billy_corgan_02.jpg

ooh poor baby. he looks so sad, and tired and he needs a snack. Hugs for BC.
((((((:())))))

He's got such a cutiepie face. :) I just want to squeeze him and never let him go.

flyfire
01-15-2008, 10:31 PM
Sicilian parmegianna uses grated Pecorino cheese (cured sheep cheese) instead of mozzarela or parmesan, and it is almost always made with eggplant. Prosciutto (cured ham) is also used along with the ground meat. Sicilians also use basil.

I'm going to cook this for dinner, and invite some friends over.

rolmos that sounds so delicious. I'm wondering what triggers the stylistic changes in his clothing. Is it just weight or mood or something more pre-determined. That blue siiky outfit on the Euro tour for example.

suncrashesdown
01-15-2008, 10:57 PM
It's important to point out there's no way anybody actually likes metal lobsters. So I'm going with "yes, billy is trying too hard to be eccentric". I think his music is honest though

IWishIWasBlank
01-16-2008, 09:28 AM
you and kahlo are responsible and should be held accountable for my unrelenting presence at the 'phoria.

i have out-posted you by about a million posts.
i should aspire to be more like you. (no, seriously)

For the most part I like to stay on the DL, but add in from time to time what I find to be witty comments. Some would beg to differ. I should probably be less chatty, in fact.

skipgo
01-16-2008, 09:46 AM
i believe the powers that be will be keeping me in check around here. I may just end up more like you after all.

oh, and billy corgan is a weirdo.
completely.

smashkin33
01-16-2008, 09:49 AM
ya know what would make billy weird? if he DIDN'T have sex.

oh and if he DIDN'T shave his head. billy's receding hairline was weirder than his bald head.

he does make some good decisions.

but he needs to go on 'what not to wear' sometimes.

xezton
01-16-2008, 09:59 AM
ooh poor baby. he looks so sad, and tired and he needs a snack. Hugs for BC.
((((((:())))))

He's got such a cutiepie face. :) I just want to squeeze him and never let him go.

There's that damn spider again ((((((:())))))

When I see that picture, all I can imagine is how bad Billy's breath probably is. I've never met him and he probably has impeccable breath, but for some reason that's all I can think of when I look at that picture.


His image does seem contrived. I don't think he ever seriously follows through with his eccentricity in real life off the stage situations. The only time this may have been true would be around Gish, SD. But even then it seems like an act.

But if he weren't Billy Corgan, he'd still just be that one weird guy who writes decent songs.

This and who would ever want to put their real selves out there? It only makes sense to make some alter ego for people to mock when you're guaranteed harsh criticism. Sure, there are some that don't put up a personality shield and just take it, but there are so many others who would rather their fake double take all the shit.

Kahlo
01-16-2008, 10:12 AM
you and kahlo are responsible and should be held accountable for my unrelenting presence at the 'phoria.


Oh god, I feel like I got you hooked on smack

oh and billy Corgan is weird apparently but very nice as well like all people

ciGarski
01-16-2008, 05:44 PM
i've always heard just polar opposite stories about corgan. that he was just the most amazingly nice and fun guy to hang out with, but in the studio watch out.

Phoenix Down
01-16-2008, 06:51 PM
he is a relaxed guy off camera and xezton is right about the personality shield. however, i think that's past him since sp1 broke up or at least his new public persona is a lot less controversial.

redbull
01-16-2008, 06:53 PM
BAN EVERYONE HERE; THREAD DERAIL

ciGarski
01-16-2008, 07:01 PM
what the fuck are you talking about.

skipgo
01-16-2008, 07:02 PM
don't feed the troll cigarski

ciGarski
01-16-2008, 07:02 PM
good call.

T&T
01-16-2008, 07:04 PM
isn't discussing thread derailing off topic?


billy isn't as much of a weirdo as he used to be

ciGarski
01-16-2008, 07:06 PM
i don't know about that. maybe i just liked his younger personality better. when he'd fuck around with reporters and things weren't so serious all the time. at least in regards to how he presents himself to the media.

although making 4:20 t shirts was pretty cool.

skipgo
01-16-2008, 07:09 PM
in the eyes of the world, i think corgan is probably weird. But what artist isn't?

T&T
01-16-2008, 07:09 PM
although making 4:20 t shirts was pretty cool.

i never saw any pics of this???

flyfire
01-16-2008, 07:09 PM
but it's not worded as if in third person. rather first person, isn't it? you are weird.

?? but it's worded as "Billy": How can I ....

isnt' that speaking about yourself in the third person, saying your own name first?

SlingeroGuitaro
01-16-2008, 07:11 PM
i think its more like a conversation.

cam: billy, you are WEIRD!!!!
billy: how weird can i possibly be?
cam: FUCKING WEIRD!




if it was, "billy, how weird can billy be?" that would be in third person

flyfire
01-16-2008, 07:15 PM
okay the ":" threw me - grammar was never my strong point, despite being an Enligh major.
He's still weird in any case.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-16-2008, 07:19 PM
when i first saw it i thought Catherine Wheel was asking billy for weirdness advice, or comparing themselves to him.

flyfire
01-16-2008, 07:43 PM
possible response - "start wearing scarfes in August then we'll talk"

mayday
01-16-2008, 07:48 PM
Catherine Wheel likes leaving things open for interpretaion. I think his posts are interesting

stumpycat
01-17-2008, 01:51 AM
Billy's eccentricity is comepletely genuine.
For one thing, if one were to concoct a more "presentable" persona for public/performance purposes (as has been suggested), why the in the hell would they choose to create one which is rather awkward and often undeliberately goofy at best? The very choices he makes are, in and of themselves, telling marks of eccentricity.
The only caveat I have to this is that Billy sometimes seems a bit preoccupied with presenting himself as a "proper artist" in terms of trying a little too hard to make some kind of artistic statement for its own stake, or to put on airs of studied intellectuality. (Type up a non-convoluted "message to fans" for just once, FFS! No one gives a crap about your meandering and opaque metaphysical ramblings.)

IWishIWasBlank
01-17-2008, 09:39 AM
Catherine Wheel likes leaving things open for interpretaion. I think his posts are interesting

I think he makes shitty threads and shouldn't use the nick unless he's----------------------------.

And I wish Bill would be as previously discussed: a little more loose, fucking with the reporters from time to time. Not so serious.

reprise85
01-17-2008, 11:35 AM
i never saw any pics of this???

no pics, but they were for sale for $15 i believe, at least on 6/27... really bummed i forgot to get one

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 03:52 PM
i never saw any pics of this???

monte has pictures, pm him or search for a thread regarding residency show merch.

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 03:54 PM
And I wish Bill would be as previously discussed: a little more loose, fucking with the reporters from time to time. Not so serious.

:cheers:

teh b0lly!!1
01-17-2008, 03:59 PM
do you guys think billy drinks breast milk?

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 04:01 PM
is there any doubt?

IWishIWasBlank
01-17-2008, 06:27 PM
is there any doubt?

I second this.

Also: I think I almost got Jimmy to come over to the rail at St. Paul, G. I got him to turn give me a serious look, followed by a wave, anyway.

I think I would've rather talked to him than t3h b0lly.

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 07:50 PM
I think I would've rather talked to him than t3h b0lly.

thats not true and you know it.

IWishIWasBlank
01-17-2008, 07:52 PM
Nah. I like the Jimster. Faith in Bill is waning.

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 07:56 PM
what does that have to do with it? the best lyricist and song writer of the ninties and you'd rather talk to jimmy? corgan is a presence, i really enjoyed speaking with him.

IWishIWasBlank
01-17-2008, 07:58 PM
Guitarists are dicks. Chew on that one G.

suncrashesdown
01-17-2008, 08:01 PM
i'd rather talk to billy, jimmy, jeff, ginger, lisa, james, d'arcy, kenny, melissa, mike, jonathan, and dennis AT THE SAME TIME (using a ouija board to talk to jonathan)

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 08:02 PM
Guitarists are dicks. Chew on that one G.

you bastard!

IWishIWasBlank
01-17-2008, 08:04 PM
You don't play guitar do you?

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 08:04 PM
yeah. but you're right. we are jerks.



ANYWAYS....

IWishIWasBlank
01-17-2008, 08:06 PM
Sorry G. Didn't mean to spit on your birthday cake.

skipgo
01-17-2008, 08:19 PM
i don't know; i had a chance to talk to both and i talked to bill, but couldn't say anything to jimmy because i was paralyzed with fear. Meaning bill wasn't as big of a deal as jimmy. I kept looking at him like, two feet in front of me thinking, "that's jimmy chamberlin!!" I wish I'd said something to him. I love me some chamberlin.

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 08:23 PM
i'd love to meet jimmy, don't get me wrong. especially because i never have before.

with corgan i was shaking really badly after the first short exchange. we talked a bit later and i was more comfortable.

i should his hand again later and kept shaking it. he was talking to a reporter and wasn't paying attention that i was still shaking his hand, and he turned and looked at me and i gave him a look saying "you're gonna have to be the one to end this" and he started to laugh at me.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-17-2008, 09:09 PM
he turned and looked at me and i gave him a look saying "you're gonna have to be the one to end this" and he started to laugh at me.

sounds like the first time i fingered a chick

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 09:14 PM
the chick was a dude? a dudechick?

SlingeroGuitaro
01-17-2008, 09:16 PM
...

fail

flyfire
01-17-2008, 09:17 PM
you two and your fingers

SlingeroGuitaro
01-17-2008, 09:18 PM
indeed

killtrocity
01-17-2008, 09:19 PM
The whole image especially during Mellon Collie and Machina seems contrived.

that's the idea doofus

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 09:24 PM
you two and your fingers

lol

ciGarski
01-17-2008, 09:25 PM
that's the idea doofus

yeah seriously.

slunken
01-18-2008, 12:35 AM
sounds like the first time i fingered a chick

slingeroguitaro for the win