View Full Version : Studio Superchrist (Its gonna happen!!)


pancakelover
01-09-2008, 02:55 PM
theyre in the studio recording superchrist!!!! ahh!!!!

rolmos
01-09-2008, 02:58 PM
woo hoo?

monkeyfritters
01-09-2008, 02:58 PM
:hurl:

it was bad enough the first time they recorded it as united states

Cool As Ice Cream
01-09-2008, 02:59 PM
didn't the people ask for gossamer?

pancakelover
01-09-2008, 03:00 PM
well, i thought this wouldve brighten everyones day...

smashkin33
01-09-2008, 03:01 PM
didn't the people ask for gossamer?

correct!

Cool As Ice Cream
01-09-2008, 03:09 PM
it would also be useful if you could post a link to the source of this news when you make a thread like this.

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/news_2906

and maybe even quote the message, so people don't necessarily have to surf to that awfully slow official website.

January 09, 2008 - Superchrist lives!

Everyone should be delighted to know that the band is in the studio right now recording the much anticipated Superchrist!

In other news, Billy has been in the studio with 'Sky Saxon and the Seeds' (http://www.skysunlightsaxon.com/). Billy and producer Kerry Brown have been "recording some stuff for Sky...(writing) a couple songs with Sky, etc..."

ciGarski
01-09-2008, 03:10 PM
pancakes! ahh!!

Rider
01-09-2008, 03:11 PM
yay they are recording the worst song ever written.

Tribute2JohnnyB
01-09-2008, 03:13 PM
yay they are recording the worst song ever written.

yup.

Professor Fox
01-09-2008, 03:13 PM
There is already a studio version of superchrist out there if you ******* the AOL sessions.

pancakelover
01-09-2008, 03:16 PM
it would also be useful if you could post a link to the source of this news when you make a thread like this.

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/news_2906

and maybe even quote the message, so people don't necessarily have to surf to that awfully slow official website.


sorry, i was just so excited

There is already a studio version of superchrist out there if you ******* the AOL sessions.

i really dont like that version, and even though im sure the new studio version will ruin it, i still think its a badass song

Cool As Ice Cream
01-09-2008, 03:18 PM
sorry, i was just so excited
i thought so.

that's really sad. "omg omg a new news thingy on the official website let's run to netphoria and try to be the first one to make a thread about it no time to waste every second matters theyre in the studio recording superchrist!!!! ahh!!!!" did i say sad? i meant pathetic.

ciGarski
01-09-2008, 03:19 PM
maybe the studio will make a bad song good, since it makes good songs bad?

tcm
01-09-2008, 03:20 PM
sweet. thanks for posting, Cool As Ice Cream.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-09-2008, 03:26 PM
do you think this means they're recording extra b-sides for a new single? (you know, since they probably kinda ran out of b-sides with the first two singles and all the "special" zeitgeists.)

i was thinking maybe there wouldn't be a new single, now that they released that ep. but now i don't know what i'm thinking.

i_adore_adore
01-09-2008, 03:29 PM
why don't they just take a break? JEEZ BE A HUMAN BEING FOR ONCE BILLY CORGAN!

And yeah, I'm not excited about this. Superchrist is INCREDIBLE in person, but I'm pretty sure it's one of those live-only songs...

tcm
01-09-2008, 03:31 PM
do you think this means they're recording extra b-sides for a new single? (you know, since they probably kinda ran out of b-sides with the first two singles and all the "special" zeitgeists.)

i was thinking maybe there wouldn't be a new single, now that they released that ep. but now i don't know what i'm thinking.

don't you think it's for the Guitar Center thing?

Cool As Ice Cream
01-09-2008, 03:33 PM
don't you think it's for the Guitar Center thing?

lol wut

DeviousJ
01-09-2008, 03:33 PM
In other news, Billy has been in the studio with 'Sky Saxon and the Seeds'. Billy and producer Kerry Brown have been "recording some stuff for Sky...(writing) a couple songs with Sky, etc..."

Heh, Kerry Brown

Nachtkabarett
01-09-2008, 03:35 PM
I'm looking forward to it.

tcm
01-09-2008, 03:38 PM
lol wut

is that a "you're so stupid" lol wut or an "i'm so stupid" lol wut?

brillo998
01-09-2008, 03:48 PM
the aol sessions version will most likely be better than the studio version since it excludes mbc and other unfavorable noises.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-09-2008, 03:50 PM
is that a "you're so stupid" lol wut or an "i'm so stupid" lol wut?

i'm so stupid

tcm
01-09-2008, 03:56 PM
awww, no you're nooot...

DeviousJ
01-09-2008, 03:58 PM
tcm, you are <i>harsh</i>

Sarcastic Smile
01-09-2008, 04:05 PM
maybe the studio will make a bad song good, since it makes good songs bad?

hhaha.. maybe

dustrock
01-09-2008, 04:12 PM
never been less excited about a possible studio release.

r0cket
01-09-2008, 04:20 PM
i smell a piggly wiggly exclusive version of zeitgeist coming.

i_adore_adore
01-09-2008, 04:22 PM
i smell a piggly wiggly exclusive version of zeitgeist coming.

What in the world is that?

ciGarski
01-09-2008, 04:24 PM
What in the world is that?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g6/GNHunter/helpforiadoreadore.jpg

skipgo
01-09-2008, 04:25 PM
fucking superchrist? ugh.
i'm about to give up on the future of this band. I will now live in the past only.

r0cket
01-09-2008, 04:27 PM
What in the world is that?


Maybe that was too obscure of a reference, piggly wiggly is a grocery chain mainly in the southern united states.

i_adore_adore
01-09-2008, 05:05 PM
oooooh. Thank you!

and as for YOU, cigarski...

NO!

BABY_i
01-09-2008, 05:08 PM
This will be great. I can't wait, hopefully they'll release it along with the Fillmore DVD.

i_adore_adore
01-09-2008, 05:10 PM
That would be interesting... how would that work? A one-track CD?

Maybe you were being sarcastic. it's so hard to tell on the internet :(

SP MediaMilitia
01-09-2008, 05:10 PM
i smell a piggly wiggly exclusive version of zeitgeist coming.

Now that is funny shit!!!

redbull
01-09-2008, 05:11 PM
This will be great. I can't wait, hopefully they'll release it along with the Fillmore DVD.
I dont think the fillmore dvd will ever come out

i_adore_adore
01-09-2008, 05:11 PM
^ it's so odd where this guy pops up.

Not that I'm complaining. I don't mind. I'm just sayin'. Of all the things to respond to XD

EDIT: and by "that guy" i mean the media militia guy. not redbull.

My Blue Heaven
01-09-2008, 05:15 PM
HOPEFULLY this is the start of an era for BC & JC. I'm unhappy about Superchrist but I'm hopeful that BC & JC will continue to record songs and hopefully just release them for free, online. Knowing Billy, this won't happen, despite him saying that he cares not for profits but that people hear his music. Bah. Billy needs to start writing again and move on from Zeitgeist and American Gothic bull.

AND ditch RTB. Ugh.

darcyismybass
01-09-2008, 05:16 PM
^ it's so odd where this guy pops up.

Not that I'm complaining. I don't mind. I'm just sayin'. Of all the things to respond to XD

EDIT: and by "that guy" i mean the media militia guy. not redbull.

Yeah...it was like, *BAM* "HAY GUYZ!"

nofix
01-09-2008, 05:16 PM
out of all the awesome residency songs, the rose march and superchrist live thru it. i just don't get it.

billy: USA was shit the first time you recorded it.

flyfire
01-09-2008, 05:18 PM
so then AG won't be the worse SP release of 2008?

My Blue Heaven
01-09-2008, 05:18 PM
I'm not judging any of this before I hear it. I remain optimistic but not deluded.

dustrock
01-09-2008, 05:18 PM
I don't mind the part that Billy actually sings, it's the 37 minutes of bad droning before it. It's like a guitar imitating the bagpipes.

My Blue Heaven
01-09-2008, 05:19 PM
I don't mind the part that Billy actually sings, it's the 37 minutes of bad droning before it. It's like a guitar imitating the bagpipes.

Lol! Actually true. It'll never sound the same. Not that I listen to it very often.

I wonder if BC and JC decided on Superchrist or if it was recommended?

tcm
01-09-2008, 05:20 PM
man... i love bagpipes.

r0cket
01-09-2008, 05:22 PM
man, i wonder what he's gonna record next

BABY_i
01-09-2008, 05:24 PM
That would be interesting... how would that work? A one-track CD?

Maybe you were being sarcastic. it's so hard to tell on the internet :(

Sort of, I was thinking more a download released around the same time to promote the DVD as it's one of the 'residency' songs. As a side note I really hope that the whole band are involved.

dustrock
01-09-2008, 05:25 PM
man, i wonder what he's gonna record next

the theme song for America's Next Top Model. "Do you wanna be on top?"

My Blue Heaven
01-09-2008, 05:25 PM
man... i love tcm

tcm
01-09-2008, 05:28 PM
hey man!

i_adore_adore
01-09-2008, 05:37 PM
As a side note I really hope that the whole band are involved.

Me tooooo. Ginger rocks that bass part :) I mean, I'm sure Billy could too, but I just like the idea of them being a band in the studio.

Not that I'll REALLY get torn up over it either way :)

BABY_i
01-09-2008, 05:40 PM
I liked Lisa's keys on the AOL session, I think I just want a band again.

I think it would have saved American Gothic

Gossamer
01-09-2008, 05:44 PM
so what's the over/under on the mbc's here?

New Art Rioter
01-09-2008, 05:44 PM
I quite like Superchrist. Quite clearly I'm the only one! The drumming is fantastic.

Professor Fox
01-09-2008, 05:51 PM
so what's the over/under on the mbc's here?

I wage one :banoonoo: that the MBC will come in during the middle of Supercrotch.

ciGarski
01-09-2008, 05:52 PM
there's lyrics?

BABY_i
01-09-2008, 06:00 PM
Evolution, this solution Christ
One solution, one can grant you God
One (or... For) love, am I
Under tides

(or something like that... I'm listening to the 25/07/07 gig I just downloaded)

Rickpat12
01-09-2008, 06:03 PM
You know I think this is kinda cool and good news. I wonder how it'll be released, maybe the Guitar Center thing? Or download? Either way, I'm pleased, I love this song.

cork_soaker
01-09-2008, 06:03 PM
(r)evolution, dissolution (disillusion)
ays

one solution, one (what) aches (makes) you
gah

this love
am i
wore i
nee tiiIIiiIIiiIIiiIIIIIIIII

jimmy drevpile
01-09-2008, 06:07 PM
I quite like Superchrist. Quite clearly I'm the only one! The drumming is fantastic.

not the only one

i_adore_adore
01-09-2008, 06:09 PM
cork_soaker wins. What a fantastic translation :D

BABY_i
01-09-2008, 06:12 PM
True dat

Just listened to Peace and Love - how hard would it have been for Bill to put down a guitar + harmonica + vox - damn it!

cork_soaker
01-09-2008, 06:13 PM
yes, i am a sucker for some jungle drums and rollicking bass
:rockon:

dustrock
01-09-2008, 06:13 PM
not the only one

The drumming is pretty much the only thing stopping it from being the worst song of all time.

It's obvious Billy & Jimmy were jamming one day, and the song was "arranged" in about 5 minutes.

But then, I'm the type of guy who would want ONE of Silverfuck, Gossamer, G&tGC, or Superchrist at a show, not all of them.

chrisothoulo
01-09-2008, 07:16 PM
yay they are recording the worst song ever written.

Just cuz u dont like hard rock heavy guitars... your opinion sucks! :D

chrisothoulo
01-09-2008, 07:17 PM
(r)evolution, dissolution (disillusion)
ays

one solution, one (what) aches (makes) you
gah

this love
am i
wore i
nee tiiIIiiIIiiIIiiIIIIIIIII

good interpretation there

???
01-09-2008, 07:20 PM
Just cuz u dont like hard rock heavy guitars... your opinion sucks! :D

no, u! :D

slowdawn
01-09-2008, 07:41 PM
I wonder if this means Jeff & Ginger will be in the studio as well, since I'm pretty sure at least Jeff was part of its creation. The post does say "the band." Hmmm.

As long as they put the same energy into it as they do live, this should turn out awesome. Some X.Y.U screams at the end, ala the AOL Sessions, and this could be a rocker.

loser2d
01-09-2008, 08:01 PM
funny if the release as an American Gothic Part 2 and they release an acoustic version. I sense bad ass all over that.

slowdawn
01-09-2008, 08:46 PM
funny if the release as an American Gothic Part 2 and they release an acoustic version. I sense bad ass all over that.

Could happen, as Europe is still waiting on the physical copies...

loser2d
01-09-2008, 08:47 PM
Could happen, as Europe is still waiting on the physical copies...

that would make perfect sense

suncrashesdown
01-09-2008, 09:34 PM
I'm guessing this is going to be the song on the Guitar Center comp?

greedo
01-09-2008, 09:56 PM
I'm guessing this is going to be the song on the Guitar Center comp?

I think so.

I wonder though if Zeitgeist is the last Pumpkins album and everything they record from now on will just be tacked onto another edition of Zeitgeist...in 5 years there will be a 7-disc version of Zeitgeist.

Are there enough colours for the covers of the new versions? They'll have to start having 'dark green', 'slightly purply red', etc. covers.

JRiordan
01-09-2008, 10:14 PM
Jimmy owns this song obviously... hopefully the drums are LOUDER in the studio than they were for United States.

This is one of the few songs that Lisa really does a great job with. The organ really complements the mood. So, let her in, Billy!

I hope this is for Guitar Center. Better not be iTunes!

exactlythesame
01-09-2008, 10:17 PM
^
Screw iTunes, Guitar Center, and special editions, man. The internet has it all for free.

markpregen
01-09-2008, 10:35 PM
January 09, 2008 - Superchrist lives!

Everyone should be delighted to know that the band is in the studio right now recording the much anticipated Superchrist!

In other news, Billy has been in the studio with 'Sky Saxon and the Seeds'. Billy and producer Kerry Brown have been "recording some stuff for Sky...(writing) a couple songs with Sky, etc..."


They are recording Gossamer with Sky Saxon and the Seeds

TheDeuce
01-09-2008, 11:00 PM
They are recording Gossamer with Sky Saxon and the Seeds

what?

where'd you here that? and it doesn't say that jimmy's there, so i find that hard to believe.

Professor Fox
01-09-2008, 11:01 PM
I think so.

I wonder though if Zeitgeist is the last Pumpkins album and everything they record from now on will just be tacked onto another edition of Zeitgeist...in 5 years there will be a 7-disc version of Zeitgeist.

Are there enough colours for the covers of the new versions? They'll have to start having 'dark green', 'slightly purply red', etc. covers.

Exactly. Just like what they do with different shades of lipstick that look the same.

markpregen
01-09-2008, 11:57 PM
what?

where'd you here that? and it doesn't say that jimmy's there, so i find that hard to believe.

Well I just made it up. However, Kerry Brown does play drums. :erm:

Frankenstein
01-09-2008, 11:59 PM
that would make perfect sense

big surprise

Banana
01-10-2008, 12:24 AM
I wonder where billy will stick corgan-backup-vocals in the stupio version.

ciGarski
01-10-2008, 12:50 AM
you're avatar makes you the resident sp board pervert. you and mccricicicirick should get a room.

Cheradenine
01-10-2008, 03:33 AM
Great news.

Lisa's organ is what makes the song though, I hope she's on there.

r0cket
01-10-2008, 03:44 AM
Great news.

Lisa's organ is what makes the song though, I hope she's on there.

too bad it'll be billy's organ :(

ibelievenothing
01-10-2008, 04:02 AM
why don't they just take a break? JEEZ BE A HUMAN BEING FOR ONCE BILLY CORGAN!

And yeah, I'm not excited about this. Superchrist is INCREDIBLE in person, but I'm pretty sure it's one of those live-only songs...

I am human and I only get a four week break a YEAR with a couple days of a week. I don't think he should take a break. He should be slaving his guts out working like the rest of us. Plus he only works 4 hour days when on tour. I work 7 hour days. And he gets a day off every other day. What a cushty live he has got compared to the average working slum?!?

cork_soaker
01-10-2008, 04:13 AM
I am human and I only get a four week break a YEAR with a couple days of a week. I don't think he should take a break. He should be slaving his guts out working like the rest of us. Plus he only works 4 hour days when on tour. I work 7 hour days. And he gets a day off every other day. What a cushty live he has got compared to the average working slum?!?

fuck you nihilist! nice marmot!

M.Night
01-10-2008, 06:22 AM
superchrist needs lyrics
without them it sucks

Professor Fox
01-10-2008, 07:05 AM
superchrist needs lyrics
without them it sucks

Lyrics: wasted time between guitar solos

Cool As Ice Cream
01-10-2008, 07:29 AM
superchrist needs lyrics
without them it sucks

superchrist has lyrics.

M.Night
01-10-2008, 07:33 AM
superchrist has lyrics.

yeah ... they last for 6 seconds :confused:

Cool As Ice Cream
01-10-2008, 07:33 AM
yeah ... they last for 6 seconds :confused:

you last for 6 seconds! GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

Sarcastic Smile
01-10-2008, 08:24 AM
I am human and I only get a four week break a YEAR with a couple days of a week. I don't think he should take a break. He should be slaving his guts out working like the rest of us. Plus he only works 4 hour days when on tour. I work 7 hour days. And he gets a day off every other day. What a cushty live he has got compared to the average working slum?!?

3hr. show + 2-3 hr. rehearsal.. and they do rehearse usually before every show

redhawk
01-10-2008, 09:33 AM
Will this be on the Guitar Center CD?

srt4b
01-10-2008, 09:33 AM
Someone needs to put Bill on that shpw INTERVENTION worth a room full of Netphorians before he records more CRAP.

The Melty Man
01-10-2008, 09:54 AM
Bill has to write more songs about God since his conversion to the Huckabee campaign.

areyougaffney?
01-10-2008, 09:54 AM
3hr. show + 2-3 hr. rehearsal.. and they do rehearse usually before every show

Yeah there's a big difference. I;m a teacher and get paid for teaching I play guitar ar home in my leisure time. I can't imagine Billy taching for the fun of it in his.

Let's face it, we'd all kill to travel the world for free, play musical whether it be gigs or rehearsals with top equipment and amazing players and get paid a shit load for it.

yeah it's hard work but come on.

M.Night
01-10-2008, 12:16 PM
you last for 6 seconds! GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

ok ... superchrist has the best lyrics ever written :dead:

skipgo
01-10-2008, 12:20 PM
i haven't read all of this thread, so maybe someone already said this; why not record gossamer instead, a song that many fans have told them they really want to hear?
it's almost as if they hear what fans want and do their best to make sure it doesn't happen. Then again, maybe I'm alone in my distaste for superchrist. i dunno.
it was a fun song live, but to listen to it on bootlegs is boring. Something about being in a live setting with the adrenaline pumping makes this song much better. I'll personally pay billy to record gossamer. I think I have about $25 to spare. Someone get me his number.

somaziro
01-10-2008, 12:28 PM
normally i would say this is not very exciting and i would predict overpowering vocals, a chorus of billy's, and disappointing arrangement. But... since this song has minimal singing and i doubt they will change the arrangement up from the live version.... this could be cool

ciGarski
01-10-2008, 12:35 PM
superchrist has lyrics.

yeah because the SPFC.ORG IS SO ON TOP OF THINGS HE OBVIOUSLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT.

ciGarski
01-10-2008, 12:36 PM
Bill has to write more songs about God since his conversion to the Huckabee campaign.

HEY! Both your post and avatar are extremely topical!

tcm
01-10-2008, 12:38 PM
fingers crossed for wacky studio hijinx & megaproduced tomfoolery.

tcm
01-10-2008, 12:41 PM
yeah because the SPFC.ORG IS SO ON TOP OF THINGS HE OBVIOUSLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT.

well yeah, spfc does say "Lyrics: [unavailable]" as opposed to "Lyrics: [instrumental]". so well yeah so yeah.

ciGarski
01-10-2008, 12:43 PM
im glad spfc doesn't want to give too much away.

skipgo
01-10-2008, 12:43 PM
i'm always up for some tomfoolery.

ciGarski
01-10-2008, 12:43 PM
hey skipgo.

tcm
01-10-2008, 12:52 PM
im glad spfc doesn't want to give too much away.

what would you have them give? nobody knows what the hell Billy is saying there, alright. and as soon as you publish your best guesses on the world wide web, you can bet they will be copied and pasted to every crappy lyrics database on the Internet, and then they will never go away and people will be quoting all wrong lyrics and shit everywhere and it's just sickening it really is. so especially now that we know a studio version is in the works, everyone may as well hold their horses for the time being and hope for something intelligible, don't you think? it's goddamn prudent.

skipgo
01-10-2008, 12:55 PM
hi cigarski.

ciGarski
01-10-2008, 12:55 PM
oh. my. god dude. im really sorry. i had no idea the ramifications of posting superchrist lyrics on spfc.


im really sorry.

tcm
01-10-2008, 01:04 PM
i mean i've been there man, maybe you don't know the frustration of being an inadvertent source of bad information, but i know first-hand, man, 'cause those were my misheard United States lyrics that i posted on Netphoria that showed up in that fake "open letter from Billy Corgan" in The Stranger, and that ain't small potatoes, we're talking about a circulation of 90,000 people there all gobbling up my shit. do you start to see how sucky these situations can get?

osamy
01-10-2008, 01:51 PM
Bah. People that don't like Superchrist are probably fat. One of the best running songs on my iPod. Live or AOL.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-10-2008, 02:08 PM
yeah because the SPFC.ORG IS SO ON TOP OF THINGS HE OBVIOUSLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT.
what the hell has spfc.org to do with this?
you fucking retard.

Twineball
01-10-2008, 02:19 PM
People that don't like Superchrist are probably fat.

http://fatgrrl.com/wp-content/hairy_beach_dude_for_jesus.jpg

Twineball
01-10-2008, 02:25 PM
People that don't like Superchrist are probably fat.

http://68.148.23.254/~devildevil/Gamma/Jesus%20was%20fat.jpg

skipgo
01-10-2008, 02:43 PM
Bah. People that don't like Superchrist are probably fat. One of the best running songs on my iPod. Live or AOL.

people who like superchrist are probably mentally challenged.

i_adore_adore
01-10-2008, 03:19 PM
I am human and I only get a four week break a YEAR with a couple days of a week. I don't think he should take a break. He should be slaving his guts out working like the rest of us. Plus he only works 4 hour days when on tour. I work 7 hour days. And he gets a day off every other day. What a cushty live he has got compared to the average working slum?!?

I'd much rather be a teacher than a rock star. A little, unknown rock musician would be cool. I couldn't handle the pressure and the year-long tours. I need some more stability in my life.

So I guess I would rather take a break after half a year of touring all over than go in the studio to record a song that isn't even good on bootlegs (and we all know live versions of songs are usually better these days)

JuneSnow
01-10-2008, 04:09 PM
My take on the first portion of the lyrics has been:

Evolution,
Disillusions minds.
One solution,

From there I'm done.

I should note, however, that writing lyrics in support of God and then calling the song SuperChrist is rather...shall I say...hokey?

Rickpat12
01-10-2008, 04:11 PM
Evoulution, Disillusion, Ride/Rise
One Solution, One can take you, beyond
This love
Am I
For I
It's TiIIiiIIiiiIIiime.

skipgo
01-10-2008, 04:21 PM
shit; i only get one week off a year, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. And i don't like what I'm doing (hence all the time spent on netphoria). And i get paid shit. And people don't make messageboards about me. Fuck I hate billy corgan. ;)

???
01-10-2008, 04:32 PM
Supercrap.

Professor Fox
01-10-2008, 04:57 PM
Supercrotch.

???
01-10-2008, 05:00 PM
Supergeist.

ciGarski
01-10-2008, 05:07 PM
what the hell has spfc.org to do with this?
you fucking retard.

http://www.lookatmeshirts.com/products_pictures/touchdown_jesus.jpg

Patuquitos
01-10-2008, 05:37 PM
i smell a piggly wiggly exclusive version of zeitgeist coming.

Are there any colours left?

Professor Fox
01-10-2008, 05:44 PM
Are there any colours left?

You better believe it!

http://hosting01.imagecross.com/myspace-image-hosting-m/7319zeitgeist2.jpg
Zeitgeist (brown album)
Costs $22,999 but it comes with a free Ford Focus - Contains "If only in a dream"

http://hosting01.imagecross.com/myspace-image-hosting-m/477zeitgeist.jpg
Zeitgeist (pink album)
Costs $10 + 3 UPS labels - Kotex Maxipad exclusive - Contains Matt Sweeney Demos

http://hosting01.imagecross.com/myspace-image-hosting-m/4591zeitgeist3.jpg
Zeitgeist (white album)
Costs $30 - contains "Gossamer"

Patuquitos
01-10-2008, 05:47 PM
I miss a cover that glows in the dark.

Twineball
01-10-2008, 05:50 PM
I miss the scratch-and-sniff cover.

Deric
01-10-2008, 08:38 PM
That's the size (my dick is)

RenewRevive
01-10-2008, 09:08 PM
I'd much rather be a teacher than a rock star. A little, unknown rock musician would be cool. I couldn't handle the pressure and the year-long tours.

solution: do not tour. fuck the fans. count money (repeat)

RenewRevive
01-10-2008, 09:31 PM
i don't get the opposition to them recording this. at least it is (relatively) short and hard-rocking. who knows people, they may actually add something in the studio to put this one over the top. if you hate the song and it ends up shit you are no worse off. admittedly, the potential for blundering is pretty high and cannot be discounted.

Netphorian Gadabout
01-10-2008, 09:33 PM
http://hosting01.imagecross.com/myspace-image-hosting-m/7319zeitgeist2.jpg
Zeitgeist (brown album)
Costs $22,999 but it comes with a free Ford Focus - Contains "If only in a dream"

Don't discount this. If there are a few more Davin's or Monte's out there we don't know about, this could be just what Ford needs to climb back into the black.

skipgo
01-10-2008, 10:05 PM
i don't get the opposition to them recording this. at least it is (relatively) short and hard-rocking. who knows people, they may actually add something in the studio to put this one over the top. if you hate the song and it ends up shit you are no worse off. admittedly, the potential for blundering is pretty high and cannot be discounted.
good point.
my only opposition to it is that i wish they'd spend this time recording gossamer instead. i'm sure there are plenty of people who like superchrist though, so i guess it's good for those people.

Frankenstein
01-10-2008, 10:11 PM
http://hosting01.imagecross.com/myspace-image-hosting-m/4591zeitgeist3.jpg


Although "Hey Jude" was not intended to be included on the album, it was recorded during the White Album sessions and was released as a stand-alone single. Its B-side, "Revolution",

RenewRevive
01-11-2008, 12:26 PM
my only opposition to it is that i wish they'd spend this time recording gossamer instead.

yeah. some people idealize this song in a live environment, but it would be good to see them lay this down in the studio also. maybe a 15 minute version, tops.

i_adore_adore
01-11-2008, 02:10 PM
Some songs are just too sacred to let into a studio with Billy. I mean, I love Zeitgeist, but all the songs are so much better live. And I've already ranted about the butchering of "The Rose March" more times than I can count.

I'd just as soon have "Superchrist," a song I'm not crazy about, get the studio treatment, and leave "Gossamer" out of this.

wilch
01-11-2008, 02:55 PM
why does everyone like this song when it smells like cat shit

ciGarski
01-11-2008, 02:57 PM
what the fuck? isn't this the 5 page of how much this song sucks?

suncrashesdown
01-11-2008, 03:05 PM
At the Normal, IL show my GF (who is a casual SP fan from back in the day) honestly thought Superchrist was United States. So much that when they played US, she asked me why they were playing it again.

I like Superchrist as an opening jam. I wish Billy would cut out the part with the vocals and just have the song be a few minutes of face melting guitar jamming just to let the crowd know what they're in for. It doesn't really stand so great as a song by itself.

ciGarski
01-11-2008, 03:07 PM
billy can record whatever he wants. it really doesn't affect my personal life whatsoever and its fascinating how many people get their pussy lips in a tangle over it.

suncrashesdown
01-11-2008, 03:08 PM
http://www.lookatmeshirts.com/products_pictures/touchdown_jesus.jpg

http://yourhometown.org/PHOTOS/OHIO-Jesus-1.jpg

Touchdown Jesus is a giant statue in front of a big-ass church on I-75, between Cincinnati Ohio and Dayton Ohio. I used to drive by that thing every day on the way to work and had no idea it was an internet meme until a little while back. Never fails to make you go WTF?

ciGarski
01-11-2008, 03:10 PM
i just googled touchdown and it came up. im unaware its a meme.



i google strange things.

Gish08
01-11-2008, 09:33 PM
Superchrist rocks. Jimmy's drum performance in particular is one of his best in recent years.

However, the lyrics confuse me. I don't know if Billy is going on a religious rant about how you have to accept christ to be pure (which is lame), or if he's telling christ that evolution is the solution. The lyrics are stupid, but the music is outstanding.

I'd much rather have studio Gossamer though.

fatbrianwilson
01-11-2008, 09:47 PM
I'm hoping they pull out some new ideas for the studio version... The voice/guitar breakdown is kind of cool, but in my estimation, it's not worth the other 6 minutes of droning on the same note in order to get there.

Usually, I roll my eyes at a lot of the complaints this board raises against the new material, but this is one instance where I agree that the song is sort of a turd.

But, I guess as a one-off thing for the Guitar Center comp (or wherever this thing ends up)... it's not that big of a deal. The pre-breakup Pumpkins had their share of turd songs as well.

i_adore_adore
01-11-2008, 11:55 PM
^^untr00 fan

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 12:07 AM
shut up i adore adore

MistaMista1
01-12-2008, 12:10 AM
Everytime I read this thread I listen to Superchrist.

Meaning song ownz.

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 12:12 AM
what recording are you listening to?

MistaMista1
01-12-2008, 12:12 AM
aol

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 12:14 AM
mp3? i should give this song another listen. the only time i've ever heard it is at the shows i went to.

slunken
01-12-2008, 12:17 AM
http://www.lookatmeshirts.com/products_pictures/touchdown_jesus.jpg


hey cigarski i work for the co that makes these shirts. srsly.

i_adore_adore
01-12-2008, 12:19 AM
shut up i adore adore

:love:

cork_soaker
01-12-2008, 12:27 AM
mp3? i should give this song another listen. the only time i've ever heard it is at the shows i went to.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ved89q

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 12:30 AM
hey cigarski i work for the co that makes these shirts. srsly.

bad ass dude send me one. im all about the touchdown jesus now.

MistaMista1
01-12-2008, 12:31 AM
Favorite parts:

1. Jimmy's opening cymbal part coming in already mid-bar. Doubt it was intentional but it shouldve been.
2. Lisa's organ
3. Ginger's (b)ass (tired and cheap, I know)
4. Billy's faint background screams

cork_soaker
01-12-2008, 12:32 AM
Favorite parts:


2. Lisa's organ




HAH

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 12:32 AM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ved89q

wow that was really nice of you man thanks.

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 12:41 AM
yeah ok so its definately a jam but whatever that was pretty rockin.

slunken
01-12-2008, 12:48 AM
bad ass dude send me one. im all about the touchdown jesus now.

pm me size and addy and it's yrs....why not?

let's make this "be nice to cigarski night"

cork_soaker
01-12-2008, 12:59 AM
fuck that

slunken
01-12-2008, 01:01 AM
yea yr right fuk him

tcm
01-12-2008, 01:02 AM
hm... fuck.

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 01:05 AM
well, fuck.

Waiting
01-12-2008, 01:12 AM
Wow, 6 pages about nothing. "Its a good song" > "Idiot" > "Untroo Fan" > "It should have been gossamer" > "Someone licking Bills ass" > ...

I shouldn't be surprised really. I bet this will get to 20 or maybe even 30 pages. But Jesus Fuckin Christ, you people seriously have no life and I have absolutely no idea why I wasted so much time reading this, when I could have had my organ in hand, jacking it to the thoughts of how Netphoria members look like in 30 yrs.

There goes 17 seconds writing that. 17 Seconds is all you need.

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 01:21 AM
its a good song you idiot although i like gossamer while licking bill's ass.

slunken
01-12-2008, 01:22 AM
lol u got "bad reputation"

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 01:22 AM
.

MistaMista1
01-12-2008, 01:23 AM
someone explain to me how rep works. I assumed red meant bad rep but slunken's comment is gray.

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 01:25 AM
red is bad, green is good, grey means you can't give rep points because you have more bad than good, or you just don't have enough. like waiting.

it used to reflect in red or green bars under your post count. now its just in your profile.

slunken
01-12-2008, 01:25 AM
i don't get it either, you racist

Waiting
01-12-2008, 01:32 AM
its a good song you idiot although i like gossamer while licking bill's ass.

clever. you should call Hillary and ask for a cookie. Or Obama. Hell, maybe you could call Bill Gates and help him find a job. Seriously, the possibilities for your wit and knowledge are endless. Noble Prize? Nah, its too good for you.

ciGarski
01-12-2008, 03:00 AM
hey, what a funny and topical post.

cork_soaker
01-12-2008, 03:00 AM
mm....tropical

i_adore_adore
01-12-2008, 12:41 PM
Noble Prize?

I've never heard of this Noble Prize. Perhaps you mean Nobel.

Next time you try to insult someone, it would probably be more effective if you spell correctly. Just a thought.

dustrock
01-12-2008, 12:49 PM
it was a nobel attempt though.

slunken
01-12-2008, 01:06 PM
I've never heard of this Noble Prize. Perhaps you mean Nobel.

Next time you try to insult someone, it would probably be more effective if you spell correctly. Just a thought.



that was almost as bad as that on guy who spelled "bob dillion"...it just automatically discredits anything you have to say

Rickpat12
01-12-2008, 01:07 PM
SO I was thinking. The keys that are played when Billy sings will still be there in the studio version, however, he will have MBC's along with it. Cuz they keys Lisa plays Live are basically the same notes Billy is singing so I can see him layering his voice to that. Just a thought.

i_adore_adore
01-12-2008, 01:20 PM
that was almost as bad as that on guy who spelled "bob dillion"...it just automatically discredits anything you have to say

It's very true. It's not that people who can't spell (or people who make typos) are stupid, but it sure looks like they are.


SO I was thinking. The keys that are played when Billy sings will still be there in the studio version, however, he will have MBC's along with it. Cuz they keys Lisa plays Live are basically the same notes Billy is singing so I can see him layering his voice to that. Just a thought.

Ah yes... like the BTO intro. That would suck.

slowdawn
01-12-2008, 08:23 PM
Videos at the studio...

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<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ta-68qluUpY&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ta-68qluUpY&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

tcm
01-12-2008, 08:43 PM
ooh.

aron
01-12-2008, 08:54 PM
s'long as he keeps on recording and releasing music, i'm grateful that he hasn't thrown in the towel - which I would totally understand, reading a lot of the comments on this forum.

i_adore_adore
01-12-2008, 09:12 PM
I love how all these new people come here, talk about how much netphoria sucks and no members like the Pumpkins, and then just leave after a while. I'm not necessarily referring to you, aron. But really, you act like it's illegal to criticize SP at all. I understand there are a lot of morons who just troll around, but for the most part the ones who aren't exactly optimistic about the reunion have decent reasons.

Sorry for that mini-rant.

Anyway, interesting videos. Why are they five seconds long?

T&T
01-12-2008, 09:15 PM
I love how all these new people come here, talk about how much netphoria sucks and no members like the Pumpkins, and then just leave after a while. I'm not necessarily referring to you, aron. But really, you act like it's illegal to criticize SP at all. I understand there are a lot of morons who just troll around, but for the most part the ones who aren't exactly optimistic about the reunion have decent reasons.

& I remember when you were just that new & young
look what they did to you

darcyismybass
01-12-2008, 09:20 PM
& I remember when you were just that new & young
look what they did to you

We did good stuff for her...she's the same person, just more cynical, nothing wrong with that. :)

i_adore_adore
01-12-2008, 09:22 PM
& I remember when you were just that new & young
look what they did to you

I don't remember ever saying, "You netphorians are soooo mean and if you really liked the Pumpkins you wouldn't criticize them." I could be lying, but I don't remember saying anything like that. I'm sure I called a couple of rude people rude, complained a lot about the personal attacks on me, but I don't think I defended the band any more than I do now.

Like I said, though, I could be lying.

T&T
01-12-2008, 09:33 PM
it's ok
it happens to the best of us AKA it has happened to the best of us...

so Superchirst with violins eh!
i hope its good and fucked up

loser2d
01-12-2008, 09:36 PM
they are going to mix it with tonight tonight

Gossamer
01-12-2008, 09:39 PM
the 5 second videos are pretty much a big waste of time

Gossamer
01-12-2008, 09:39 PM
or a little waste of time if you want to get technical

loser2d
01-12-2008, 09:42 PM
yeah
It seemed kind of boring, but then again it is just a few seconds

dustrock
01-12-2008, 11:11 PM
where are these videos from? the 7 second thing is a little pointless.

still, violins can only be a good thing, right?

i_adore_adore
01-12-2008, 11:32 PM
^Right. I can't think of one Pumpkins song that involved a violin that I don't like.

Fritter
01-12-2008, 11:55 PM
Maybe im having some kind of block but all i can think of that has one is daydream.

darcyismybass
01-12-2008, 11:57 PM
or a little waste of time if you want to get technical

:rofl:

darcyismybass
01-12-2008, 11:58 PM
^Right. I can't think of one Pumpkins song that involved a violin that I don't like.

Or a cello for that matter. :)

sh sh shayne
01-12-2008, 11:58 PM
lol

Superchrist is pointless. WTF is up with this band

Live they bring the heat, but jesus christ bc can't write shit anymore. It's sad so many classics then superchrist :erm:

redbull
01-12-2008, 11:58 PM
I would assume the violin will go in place of keys during the vocal part...

Mayfuck
01-13-2008, 12:35 AM
i dont understand this board sometimes other than the fact that its full of lemmings when it comes to complaining. that said, superchrist is a pretty good song and most of the criticisms in this thread are by people who are missing the point.

Charmbag
01-13-2008, 02:41 AM
no, it's genuinely bad.

aron
01-13-2008, 08:43 AM
I love how all these new people come here, talk about how much netphoria sucks and no members like the Pumpkins, and then just leave after a while. I'm not necessarily referring to you, aron. But really, you act like it's illegal to criticize SP at all. I understand there are a lot of morons who just troll around, but for the most part the ones who aren't exactly optimistic about the reunion have decent reasons.

maybe you weren't referring to me i_adore_adore, but it kinda sounds like you were...I've never thought of myself as being a 'new person' (got MCIS in 95, been in love ever since), and although I don't post on here much (i only made my previous post because netphoria asked me to - yes, it actualy asks you to post if you haven't for a while), I do browse the threads that interest me most days.

anyway, haven't the pumpkins always been egotistical, distant and just plain strange?

i_adore_adore
01-13-2008, 02:46 PM
maybe you weren't referring to me i_adore_adore, but it kinda sounds like you were...I've never thought of myself as being a 'new person' (got MCIS in 95, been in love ever since), and although I don't post on here much (i only made my previous post because netphoria asked me to - yes, it actualy asks you to post if you haven't for a while), I do browse the threads that interest me most days.

I didn't mean to say you were new to the band at all, just to netphoria. And I just assumed since you don't post much that you don't come on here much (seems to make sense to me, but I'll take your word that you do read these threads) I reckon I just think to myself, if the people on netphoria are so annoying, why bother posting here? There are other messageboards for the Pumpkins. Granted, they aren't as active, but they're also not as full of off-topic ramblings. Like I said, I'm not trying to single you and be like, "YOU SUCK N00B GO AWAY!!!!" Just saying that in general, the new posters who make a point of complaining about the negativity of netphoria are only wasting their time.

anyway, haven't the pumpkins always been egotistical, distant and just plain strange?

I'd say yes, and I would assume the fans have always been critical, too.

brendo_91
01-13-2008, 08:11 PM
i for one am glad theyre recording superfuck. silverchrist. um...

ben94gt
01-14-2008, 01:22 AM
I like the random "dammit" in the background

unlachs
01-14-2008, 05:06 AM
the live versions of superchrist so far have been pretty good, so i'm not all keen for a studio version really

still awesome though

andrewface
01-14-2008, 11:07 AM
I love how all these new people come here, talk about how much netphoria sucks and no members like the Pumpkins, and then just leave after a while. I'm not necessarily referring to you, aron. But really, you act like it's illegal to criticize SP at all. I understand there are a lot of morons who just troll around, but for the most part the ones who aren't exactly optimistic about the reunion have decent reasons.

Sorry for that mini-rant.

Anyway, interesting videos. Why are they five seconds long?

valid point except most of the people that criticize are trolls themselves...superschrist sucks, pox sucks, everything sucks?? find a new band you fucks

wilch
01-14-2008, 01:27 PM
"And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia."

Genesis 2:13

its funny how everyone ignores jesus' insightful comments now

Lobster
01-14-2008, 02:12 PM
Hey, does anyone know in what city they are recording?

dustrock
01-14-2008, 02:31 PM
Addis Ababa, apparently.

ciGarski
01-14-2008, 03:14 PM
valid point except most of the people that criticize are trolls themselves...superschrist sucks, pox sucks, everything sucks?? find a new band you fucks

as tired as a point this is, its still a point. i'd say zeitgeist has been around long enough, they toured, its recorded, you should know what this band is doing by now. if you don't care for it, whats the point. and there's a difference between criticism and just dumping on everything thats put out.

skipgo
01-14-2008, 03:21 PM
i don't like superchrist, and i don't like pox. i don't like again again again, and i only slightly like sunkissed.
but i won't "find a new band", because I love this band. I'm not going to blindly love all of their output simply because it's them. In general i like zeitgeist, even if it doesn't move me emotionally the way i would have wanted. I'm optimistic for the future and will always be a fan, but that doesn't mean I can't say that I don't like something when I simply don't.

ciGarski
01-14-2008, 04:06 PM
no one said you couldn't.

skipgo
01-14-2008, 04:15 PM
andrewface did. he said i should find a new band.

ciGarski
01-14-2008, 04:21 PM
listen skipgo, im gonna go check and see if the pizza's done. we'll talk about this in a bit. you seem bothered.

skipgo
01-14-2008, 04:35 PM
PIZZA!

ciGarski
01-14-2008, 04:41 PM
i burnt my mouth!

skipgo
01-14-2008, 04:44 PM
i hate when that happens!

ciGarski
01-14-2008, 04:45 PM
me too! ahh!

brendo_91
01-15-2008, 05:16 AM
andrewface did. he said i should find a new band.

more like andrewfarce...

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 05:23 AM
doodoopeepeeface

wilch
01-15-2008, 07:02 AM
:dammit:

mmm... pizza

does anyone else think of kramer smearing yoghurt on himself in the shower when someone mentions pizza?

Sarcastic Smile
01-15-2008, 01:06 PM
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Sorry if someone posted that already...

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Home
01-15-2008, 02:03 PM
There is already a studio version of superchrist out there if you ******* the AOL sessions.

link please ?

cork_soaker
01-15-2008, 02:14 PM
link please ?.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ved89q

Home
01-15-2008, 02:28 PM
.

may god bless you

Lobster
01-15-2008, 02:55 PM
Wheeeere are they recording??

SlingeroGuitaro
01-15-2008, 03:02 PM
marigolds and monsters

Sarcastic Smile
01-15-2008, 09:28 PM
Wheeeere are they recording??

I think it says LA somewhere on that youtube video.. and i thought SP.com said it..maybe that was Am. Gothic.. i don't know

JRiordan
01-16-2008, 01:00 AM
Why does Superchrist have a violin instead of say, a cello? I mean, hello! Cello!

But they should def. keep the organ. One of Lisa's actual contributions to the band.

tcm
01-16-2008, 04:53 AM
can't wait for the string quartet tribute to Superchrist.

Twineball
01-16-2008, 03:34 PM
Studio Superchrist (Its gonna happen!!)

You folks think this is for the Guitar Center compilation?

MistaMista1
01-16-2008, 03:56 PM
You folks think this is for the Guitar Center compilation?

Has there been any announcement of this beyond what that one guy said here?

Twineball
01-16-2008, 04:14 PM
Not that I've seen. Maybe it's all bull.

MistaMista1
01-16-2008, 04:16 PM
Yea I was surprised with the unquestioning faith the netphoria cynics met him with.

No mention of it on their website.

Twineball
01-16-2008, 04:32 PM
It was supposed to be an exclusive to employees, wasn't it?

MistaMista1
01-16-2008, 04:35 PM
No it says in the original thread "available at your local guitar center."

Twineball
01-16-2008, 04:43 PM
Ah.

darthjul
01-16-2008, 05:07 PM
i don't like superchrist, and i don't like pox. i don't like again again again, and i only slightly like sunkissed.
but i won't "find a new band", because I love this band. I'm not going to blindly love all of their output simply because it's them. In general i like zeitgeist, even if it doesn't move me emotionally the way i would have wanted. I'm optimistic for the future and will always be a fan, but that doesn't mean I can't say that I don't like something when I simply don't.

Skip. That was the most eloquent response to a question that has plagued me since I joined. We SHOULD question art and artists and never swallow their bullshit out of a sense of nostalgia. That is what makes great artists complacent and that is what makes art into kitsch.

I however am happy to have any new recording the band wants to throw at us because I don't know if anyone recalls but they actually broke up! For a while we had NO Pumpkins. So I'm happy. And even if you don't dig on the song choice or you feel the production/songwriting is less than amazing, every song we get is another chance to meet those expectations. Superchrist I dig somewhat but I just generally love seeing what tomfoolery is layered into the production of a new Pumpkins song. Love it or hate it, Rose March certainly wasn't how I expected it to sound. Thats whats interesting to me.

I hope that Superchrist is tweaked into complete obscurity from the song we know live. Then we'll have two versions.

ciGarski
01-16-2008, 05:38 PM
how long does it take to record one song?

ciGarski
01-16-2008, 05:40 PM
Yea I was surprised with the unquestioning faith the netphoria cynics met him with.

No mention of it on their website.

i never questioned it because they've put their music in a lot of places this last year. commercials, movies, itunes, store exclusives, radio. so it wouldn't surprise me.

SlingeroGuitaro
01-16-2008, 05:42 PM
could take a couple hours, could take a couple weeks.


depending on how detailed it is, it could take weeks to mix it alone.


but superchrist was done in a day or two i would guess.

ciGarski
01-16-2008, 05:44 PM
i wonder if they're just shopping around for a way to release it. otherwise im not sure what would take so long. his dad issues? i mean whats he going to do with that other then cry in his soda pop.

not that im being impatient, i still haven't heard AG, but just out of curiosity.

darthjul
01-16-2008, 06:02 PM
What would be more important to you? Getting a non-album related, random song completed for public consumption or a significant family crisis?

Yeah... I'd be working on the song too.

ciGarski
01-16-2008, 06:04 PM
his dad is an autonomous person, i don't know exactly what corgan can do for him.

and i'd doubt a person like corgan would stop working because of a family crisis. the opposite in fact.

T&T
01-16-2008, 06:07 PM
isn't superchrist for the guitar center thingy>?



i'd assume if the band is going into the studio, they've got a plan for where it's gonna go
i doubt billy does "record now, shop later"

skipgo
01-16-2008, 06:07 PM
Skip. That was the most eloquent response to a question that has plagued me since I joined. We SHOULD question art and artists and never swallow their bullshit out of a sense of nostalgia. That is what makes great artists complacent and that is what makes art into kitsch.

I however am happy to have any new recording the band wants to throw at us because I don't know if anyone recalls but they actually broke up! For a while we had NO Pumpkins. So I'm happy. And even if you don't dig on the song choice or you feel the production/songwriting is less than amazing, every song we get is another chance to meet those expectations. Superchrist I dig somewhat but I just generally love seeing what tomfoolery is layered into the production of a new Pumpkins song. Love it or hate it, Rose March certainly wasn't how I expected it to sound. Thats whats interesting to me.

I hope that Superchrist is tweaked into complete obscurity from the song we know live. Then we'll have two versions.

as much as i haven't enjoyed live recordings of this song in the past, and as much as i've been negative about it on this thread, i think i can be open to the possibility of enjoying this. What it really comes down to is personal preference; sometimes I like where billy takes a song (usually I do), sometimes I don't. Who knows where this one will end up? I'm willing to be more open minded about it than i have been.

MistaMista1
01-16-2008, 11:28 PM
I hope that Superchrist is tweaked into complete obscurity from the song we know live. Then we'll have two versions.

That's actually a great idea. I'm gonna have trouble letting the aol version go.