View Full Version : is billy voting?


???
01-07-2008, 04:24 PM
i don't remember bill ever being particularly vocal about his political stance. i'm sure he does vote though, he's too conscientious to waste the opportunity. who do you think he's supporting this year? i reckon he's probably for obama.

<sp3
01-07-2008, 04:28 PM
i picture billy as someone who would never vote. remember the whole "john kerry asked him to support and he said no because all politicians are in the same cult" thing?

DeviousJ
01-07-2008, 04:30 PM
He's a Huckabee man

apetulantfrenzy
01-07-2008, 04:31 PM
When I met him in '04 circa book signing tour, he said he wasn't voting. He "had to concentrate' on the solo record. He's from Chicago, I think he's a sure vote for Obama. If he gets off his ass (Commemorative Zeitgeist Gold Ass Chair now for sale on the website!), that is.

<sp3
01-07-2008, 04:32 PM
He's from Chicago, I think he's a sure vote for Obama.

oh, i didn't realize that all people from Chicago, by definition, vote for Obama

Mayfuck
01-07-2008, 04:32 PM
he's an idiot who will probably vote for either huckabee or ron paul

???
01-07-2008, 04:39 PM
oh yeah, cause huckabee plays guitar, right

Mayfuck
01-07-2008, 04:39 PM
isle take about a 3 week break from this place, yeah?

???
01-07-2008, 04:48 PM
get stuffed you smug twat

skipgo
01-07-2008, 04:54 PM
i just hope he's not a hilary supporter.

T&T
01-07-2008, 04:54 PM
When I met him in '04 circa book signing tour, he said he wasn't voting. He "had to concentrate' on the solo record. He's from Chicago, I think he's a sure vote for Obama. If he gets off his ass (Commemorative Zeitgeist Gold Ass Chair now for sale on the website!), that is.
too busy to vote?
this is what is wrong with america

skipgo
01-07-2008, 04:55 PM
too busy to vote?
this is what is wrong with america

agreed.
he really has no right to complain about the state of this country if he's too busy to vote.

mayday
01-07-2008, 05:01 PM
everyone should vote. our democracy depends on it!

Mayfuck
01-07-2008, 05:04 PM
to be fair voting isn't just showing up tuesday morning to punch a few holes or pull a lever. it ought to require at least some minimal knowledge of the issues as well as consistent attention to the candidates campaigns, something you do need to set a <i>little</i> time aside. I read the newspaper everyday and keep up with this shit but not everyone does nor does everyone have the time. Also I don't agree with mayday, only educated people should vote. so don't vote, skipgo.

BABY_i
01-07-2008, 05:06 PM
I've been following it from the UK. I saw Iowa and thought an Obama/Edwards ticket would be great.

T&T
01-07-2008, 05:07 PM
democracy perpetuates mediocrity

arCHI
01-07-2008, 05:08 PM
oh yeah, cause huckabee plays guitar, right

i heard huckabee played a whole week on conan...

was that apropos?

Rockin' Cherub
01-07-2008, 05:11 PM
i love how billy corgan thinks he's always making important statements about the state of the world (or dare i say, zeitgeist) and the us and is a big cultural commentator when he never actually speaks up regarding any political issues and doesn't seem to know anything about music past 1995 or any visual art really

mayday
01-07-2008, 05:15 PM
i like Obama so far and i usually vote republican, but i consider mysleft non-party affiliated or independent i suppose. i pick the person i believe will do the best job

smashkin33
01-07-2008, 05:22 PM
i thought i read at one point he seemed to be a fiscal conservative... i guess that'd point him in voting for a republican?
ah, who knows.

tcm
01-07-2008, 05:26 PM
i like Obama so far and i usually vote republican, but i consider mysleft non-party affiliated or independent i suppose. i pick the person i believe will do the best job

i think this would be Billy's answer too.

Irridescent Fairysex
01-07-2008, 05:40 PM
i'm sure he does vote though, he's too conscientious to waste the opportunity.

I'm pretty sure he's said in the past that he doesn't vote.

skipgo
01-07-2008, 06:00 PM
to be fair voting isn't just showing up tuesday morning to punch a few holes or pull a lever. it ought to require at least some minimal knowledge of the issues as well as consistent attention to the candidates campaigns, something you do need to set a <i>little</i> time aside. I read the newspaper everyday and keep up with this shit but not everyone does nor does everyone have the time. Also I don't agree with mayday, only educated people should vote. so don't vote, skipgo.

suck it mayfuck.

Rickpat12
01-07-2008, 06:08 PM
McCain...maybe Romney.

but that's just me.

i_adore_adore
01-07-2008, 06:29 PM
I haven't been paying attention like I should (even though it doesn't even matter because I'll be 17 at election time UGH I HATE MYSELF) but there's something about Obama that I like :) He's very charismatic.

But so was Hitler, so there ya go.

???
01-07-2008, 06:33 PM
some i kindof wonder if 24 was being prophetic by portraying a black president at this point in time.

june_soma
01-07-2008, 06:38 PM
i love how billy corgan thinks he's always making important statements about the state of the world (or dare i say, zeitgeist) and the us and is a big cultural commentator when he never actually speaks up regarding any political issues

Well he did say ""We can look you in the eye and talk to you about life, heart, love, rock 'n' roll, whatever. But we do not have the moral authority to tell people how to vote or what to do to their bodies. We're just a rock band." at one point in time...

And calling the album zeitgeist... that was delusional at best, as I'm sure a million people have pointed out already.

???
01-07-2008, 06:40 PM
i thought the title was intended to be ironic

i_adore_adore
01-07-2008, 06:50 PM
Billy also said he'd never sell his songs for commercials.

He's a different man. Not that I care, about either topic. I don't care who he's voting for and I don't care if SP's songs are in commercials. just saying, he said a lot of things ten years ago that he's gone against recently.

june_soma
01-07-2008, 07:23 PM
i thought the title was intended to be ironic

Really? That's not the impression I got. Let's hope you're right.

Delicieuxz
01-07-2008, 07:30 PM
too busy to vote?
this is what is wrong with america

That's hardly all that's wrong with the US.

I haven't been paying attention like I should (even though it doesn't even matter because I'll be 17 at election time UGH I HATE MYSELF) but there's something about Obama that I like :) He's very charismatic.

But so was Hitler, so there ya go.

The superficiality of being inclined to vote based on charisma represents one of the bigger things wrong with the US.

skipgo
01-07-2008, 07:51 PM
That's hardly all that's wrong with the US.



The superficiality of being inclined to vote based on charisma represents one of the bigger things wrong with the US.

the US has it's problems, but let's face it; the whole world is full of idiots and it generally sucks.

smashkin33
01-07-2008, 07:52 PM
billy will write the green zeitgeist in, and vote for that.

but there's something about Obama that I like :) He's very charismatic.
and don't forget bill clinton! he was too!

The Gaddrow
01-07-2008, 08:06 PM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=220588386

sppunk
01-07-2008, 08:10 PM
1) That blog is horrific, so many spelling errors it's like MonteLDS put it together
2) Edwards is a joke of a "candidate" and has zero chance of lasting one more month in the election process. Thank God for that - he's truly the biggest flip-flopper politics would ever see.

sppunk
01-07-2008, 08:11 PM
And I doubt b0lly's a fiscal conservative.

ravenguy2000
01-07-2008, 08:21 PM
I'd care more about who James was voting for.

James James, not fake James.

smashkin33
01-07-2008, 08:24 PM
And I doubt b0lly's a fiscal conservative.

i thought i read that someplace, i could just be making it up. wanted to throw that hat out there.

???
01-07-2008, 08:43 PM
about the most overtly political comment i can remember of bill's in recent years is when he said he'd be first in line to grab a gun and go fight the bad guys if america was suddenly invaded. i don't know if you could construe that kind of heart-on-your-sleeve patriotism as a conservative sympathy though.

Frankenstein
01-07-2008, 08:44 PM
about the most overtly political comment i can remember of bill's in recent years is when he said he'd be first in line to grab a gun and go fight the bad guys if america was suddenly invaded. i don't know if you could construe that kind of heart-on-your-sleeve patriotism as a conservative sympathy though.

was he quoted saying that from his ivory tower?

???
01-07-2008, 08:46 PM
\(_o)/

tensionhead
01-07-2008, 08:48 PM
...and here i thought this thread was asking if billiam votes IN NETPHORIA POLLS.

cos yes, i think he does. he wants to see what the bad kids in school are saying about him.

???
01-07-2008, 08:56 PM
you just know he was hanging onto every minute of the adore survivor.

ravenguy2000
01-07-2008, 09:02 PM
was he quoted saying that from his ivory tower?

I think what you actually mean is

Billy Corgan buys a piece of the Gold Coast

Ten months after shbnmelling his Victorian painted lady mansion in Lake View for $1 million, former Smashing Pumpkins lead singer and chief songwriter Billy Corgan has paid $2.95 million for a recently renovated, historic six-room condominium on the Gold Coast.

After disbanding the Smashing Pumpkins, Corgan formed a new group, Zwan, which is playing three sold-out shows at the Double Door this weekend.

Through his tour manager, Corgan declined to comment on the purchase of the two-bedroom condo. His tour manager confirmed that the singer-songwriter recently has been staying at the condo while rehearsing for Zwan's current tour, but said the Chicago-area native ultimately intends to lease the condo in a 110-year-old building to someone else. The unit has an oak-paneled living room, reception room, balcony framed by granite columns, four fireplaces, walnut parquet floors and a large terrace.

Corgan has shown an affinity for vintage properties. After moving out of the more than 100-year-old Lake View home at 3448 N. Greenview Ave., which he owned from 1993 to 2001, Corgan temporarily stayed in a penthouse in the Haberdasher Square loft development, 728 W. Jackson Blvd., a former manufacturing building that dates to 1926. And in 2000, the Landmarks Preservation Council of Illinois awarded Corgan its President's Award for his commitment to historic preservation.

Since Corgan sold his Lake View home, one Smashing Pumpkins Web site reported that he has been living in Italy, but in interviews he has declined any comment on his permanent residence.

Singer Courtney Love, whom Corgan dated many years ago, just sold her loft in downtown Manhattan for $3 million after buying it for $2.6 million in January 2001, according to the New York Post. The loft is in the same building where rocker Lenny Kravitz just listed his own, five-bedroom, 7,000-square-foot, multilevel loft for $16 million, after buying the space unfinished in October 2000 for $8 million, the Post reported.

Love also recently listed her almost 3,700-square-foot Spanish-style house on Los Angeles' Westside -- which she bought last June for $3 million -- for about the same price, according to the Los Angeles Times. Love reportedly is looking for another house in the area because her five-bedroom house, which was built in the 1920s, is too small.

Ironically, Love told the Times last year that she sold a four-bedroom, 4,700-square-foot French country-style house on almost 2 acres in the Hollywood Hills -- which she had purchased from Ellen DeGeneres in 1997 for about $3 million -- because she was planning to spend more time in New York and actually wanted something smaller in L.A. She sold the Hollywood Hills home for $3.995 million in March 2001 to British businessman Mike Walley. Love's former Hollywood Hills house made the news in November 2001, after Paul McCartney's fellow Beatle George Harrison died. After Harrison's representatives gave a bogus L.A. address on his death certificate, the county's district attorney revealed in February that Harrison actually had died at Walley's house.

Rocker Tom Petty has paid close to $2.5 million for a three-bedroom oceanfront home in Malibu, Calif., according to the Los Angeles Times. Built in 1974, the house has three fireplaces, Malibu tiles and a courtyard with a fountain, the paper reported ... Fred Durst, frontman for the rock group Limp Bizkit, has sold a house he never moved into in Bel Air, Calif., for $3.7 million because it had "vibes that were not quite correct for him," according to the Los Angeles Times. Last fall, Durst bought the four-bedroom, 6,600-square-foot house, which was once owned by the Doors' Robbie Krieger and has a carving of the Doors playing on one wall, for just under $4 million, the paper reported. Durst recently bought a house with a sound studio in L.A.'s Hollywood Hills, and has listed that home for $1.4 million, the Times reported.

tensionhead
01-07-2008, 09:06 PM
you just know he was hanging onto every minute of the adore survivor.

thats alls im sayin

Frankenstein
01-07-2008, 09:07 PM
shbnmelling


I think what you actually mean is

Billy Corgan buys a piece of the Gold Coast

Ten months after shbnmelling his Victorian painted lady mansion in Lake View for $1 million, former Smashing Pumpkins lead singer and chief songwriter Billy Corgan has paid $2.95 million for a recently renovated, historic six-room condominium on the Gold Coast.

After disbanding the Smashing Pumpkins, Corgan formed a new group, Zwan, which is playing three sold-out shows at the Double Door this weekend.

Through his tour manager, Corgan declined to comment on the purchase of the two-bedroom condo. His tour manager confirmed that the singer-songwriter recently has been staying at the condo while rehearsing for Zwan's current tour, but said the Chicago-area native ultimately intends to lease the condo in a 110-year-old building to someone else. The unit has an oak-paneled living room, reception room, balcony framed by granite columns, four fireplaces, walnut parquet floors and a large terrace.

Corgan has shown an affinity for vintage properties. After moving out of the more than 100-year-old Lake View home at 3448 N. Greenview Ave., which he owned from 1993 to 2001, Corgan temporarily stayed in a penthouse in the Haberdasher Square loft development, 728 W. Jackson Blvd., a former manufacturing building that dates to 1926. And in 2000, the Landmarks Preservation Council of Illinois awarded Corgan its President's Award for his commitment to historic preservation.

Since Corgan sold his Lake View home, one Smashing Pumpkins Web site reported that he has been living in Italy, but in interviews he has declined any comment on his permanent residence.

Singer Courtney Love, whom Corgan dated many years ago, just sold her loft in downtown Manhattan for $3 million after buying it for $2.6 million in January 2001, according to the New York Post. The loft is in the same building where rocker Lenny Kravitz just listed his own, five-bedroom, 7,000-square-foot, multilevel loft for $16 million, after buying the space unfinished in October 2000 for $8 million, the Post reported.

Love also recently listed her almost 3,700-square-foot Spanish-style house on Los Angeles' Westside -- which she bought last June for $3 million -- for about the same price, according to the Los Angeles Times. Love reportedly is looking for another house in the area because her five-bedroom house, which was built in the 1920s, is too small.

Ironically, Love told the Times last year that she sold a four-bedroom, 4,700-square-foot French country-style house on almost 2 acres in the Hollywood Hills -- which she had purchased from Ellen DeGeneres in 1997 for about $3 million -- because she was planning to spend more time in New York and actually wanted something smaller in L.A. She sold the Hollywood Hills home for $3.995 million in March 2001 to British businessman Mike Walley. Love's former Hollywood Hills house made the news in November 2001, after Paul McCartney's fellow Beatle George Harrison died. After Harrison's representatives gave a bogus L.A. address on his death certificate, the county's district attorney revealed in February that Harrison actually had died at Walley's house.

Rocker Tom Petty has paid close to $2.5 million for a three-bedroom oceanfront home in Malibu, Calif., according to the Los Angeles Times. Built in 1974, the house has three fireplaces, Malibu tiles and a courtyard with a fountain, the paper reported ... Fred Durst, frontman for the rock group Limp Bizkit, has sold a house he never moved into in Bel Air, Calif., for $3.7 million because it had "vibes that were not quite correct for him," according to the Los Angeles Times. Last fall, Durst bought the four-bedroom, 6,600-square-foot house, which was once owned by the Doors' Robbie Krieger and has a carving of the Doors playing on one wall, for just under $4 million, the paper reported. Durst recently bought a house with a sound studio in L.A.'s Hollywood Hills, and has listed that home for $1.4 million, the Times reported.

stumpycat
01-08-2008, 01:56 AM
Since Billy made a snide comment about Hilary during the most recent tour, we can probably safely assume he wouldn't be for her.

By his comments made elsewhere (especially against Bush on the European leg), we can probably assume he would be disdainful of the foreign and social agendas set forth by most Republicans or anyone associated with these aforementioned policies.

Democrats, however, seem to present a kind of cultural subtext Billy would find a bit controlling or "nannyish", for lack of a better term.

My bet is that Billy would pretty much fall in the Libertarian category. I could most imagine him supporting the free-wheeling Ron Paul above anyone else.

By in large, though, Billy seems like just the type that believes everything is so irreconcilably fucked up politically that he feels justified in not voting at all.

jjbjjbjjb
01-08-2008, 02:18 AM
My bet is that Billy would pretty much fall in the Libertarian category. I could most imagine him supporting the free-wheeling Ron Paul above anyone else.

By in large, though, Billy seems like just the type that believes everything is so irreconcilably fucked up politically that he feels justified in not voting at all.

I think this is mostly right, including on the libertarian tendencies, but I can't imagine that Billy would sign on for little old Ron Paul. Just like you can be a liberal and yet think Dean is too fiery or Edwards is too combative, you can be a libertarian and still notice that Paul isn't much of a leader.

redbreegull
01-08-2008, 02:39 AM
He said he didn't vote in the last election because he couldn't bring himself to vote for either evil. He has talked in the past about our "skull and cross bones" democracy and how fucked up the 2 party system is. He is very liberal on all fronts I'm sure. He also has talked about the alternative music movement being a very youthful very liberal thing and how disappointing it was to see those kids grow up and let George Bush get voted into office. Or something. I also doubt he is libertarian.

tcm
01-08-2008, 02:50 AM
Since Billy made a snide comment about Hilary during the most recent tour, we can probably safely assume he wouldn't be for her.

well wha'd he say in wha' context and wha' tone of voice? i was thinking i wouldn't put it past him to vote for Clinton or Obama just cuz it's about time we had someone other than a white man in the oval office. like if we agree that things are fucked no matter who wins, we can at least have this symbolic victory and feel like we're making progress.

tcm
01-08-2008, 02:54 AM
i mean if you look at his history of choosing bandmates, he has always favored diversity over picking those most fit for the job.

redbreegull
01-08-2008, 02:55 AM
Hmm. In DC in 05 during his solo tour he played All Things Change and then announced, "Yes, things will change... as soon as President Clinton comes into office."

But I think it was more of an lol thing.

tcm
01-08-2008, 02:59 AM
Hillary Clinton is like the Courtney Love of American politics, right? i don't really follow the current events, tbh.

mrlvx
01-08-2008, 03:23 AM
jimmy corgan for president

Cool As Ice Cream
01-08-2008, 03:31 AM
remember when corgy said he was so sick of the usa that he considered moving to italy? that was a couple of years ago.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-08-2008, 03:33 AM
this is italy:
<img src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/30/world/31naples-600.jpg">

tcm
01-08-2008, 03:40 AM
like seven years ago, yeah.

The Gaddrow
01-08-2008, 04:28 AM
2) Edwards is a joke of a "candidate" and has zero chance of lasting one more month in the election process. Thank God for that - he's truly the biggest flip-flopper politics would ever see.
http://forums.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon10.gif

smashkin33
01-08-2008, 07:28 AM
Since Billy made a snide comment about Hilary during the most recent tour, we can probably safely assume he wouldn't be for her.



what did he say about the hillz?

sppunk
01-08-2008, 10:35 AM
http://forums.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon10.gif

Your wife no longer volunteers for him, you can stop caring now.

xezton
01-08-2008, 10:40 AM
...and here i thought this thread was asking if billiam votes IN NETPHORIA POLLS.

cos yes, i think he does. he wants to see what the bad kids in school are saying about him.

you just know he was hanging onto every minute of the adore survivor.

thats alls im sayin

After that poll, Billy canceled his netphoria account.

duovamp
01-08-2008, 10:42 AM
He isn't old enough to vote. As for Iha, they didn't give women the right to vote yet in his district.

wilch
01-08-2008, 11:17 AM
BARACK FTW BITCHEZ

duovamp
01-08-2008, 11:48 AM
I smell a new winning campaign slogan.

Twineball
01-08-2008, 12:53 PM
He'd better vote. If someone doesn't vote, they give up the right to bitch about the government. I bitch about the government all the time, but I vote and I write letters to my representatives. I do what I can, therefore I have the right to bitch.

You can't write an album complaining about politics and then not vote. Vote, b0lly, VOTE!

Or whatever. I don't really care that much about what b0lly's political views may be.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-08-2008, 12:59 PM
He'd better vote. If someone doesn't vote, they give up the right to bitch about the government. I bitch about the government all the time, but I vote and I write letters to my representatives. I do what I can, therefore I have the right to bitch.

You can't write an album complaining about politics and then not vote. Vote, b0lly, VOTE!

Or whatever. I don't really care that much about what b0lly's political views may be.

everyone has the right to bitch. it's in the constitution.

Twineball
01-08-2008, 01:30 PM
Legally, yes, everyone has the right to bitch.

But it's pretty cheap to bitch, but not do what you can to change what you're bitching about. If you've tried, complain away, but if you've just been sitting on your ass eating chips in front of your tv, then shut the hell up. It doesn't take a lot of energy to frickin vote.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-08-2008, 01:45 PM
meh, what's the difference. i just wanna bitch, y'know.

T&T
01-08-2008, 01:46 PM
Legally, yes, everyone has the right to bitch.

But it's pretty cheap to bitch, but not do what you can to change what you're bitching about. If you've tried, complain away, but if you've just been sitting on your ass eating chips in front of netphoria, then shut the hell up.

FYP

waltermcphilp
01-08-2008, 01:47 PM
jo wanna man?

Twineball
01-08-2008, 01:57 PM
FYP

I almost actually typed that.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-08-2008, 02:02 PM
dude, if i was a representative and some people were sending me fucking letters, i'd be fucking pissed off. jesus effin' christ, don't you guys have anything better to do, i'd yell. why don't you go watch some tv for crying out loud! seriously.

silvermachina
01-08-2008, 02:30 PM
"Politics is a game for chumps...and we don't play that game" - Billy Corgan in Yahoo! interview / 2007.

edit: scratch that...it was the AOL interview.

Twineball
01-08-2008, 06:15 PM
dude, if i was a representative and some people were sending me fucking letters, i'd be fucking pissed off. jesus effin' christ, don't you guys have anything better to do, i'd yell. why don't you go watch some tv for crying out loud! seriously.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But when it comes down to it, I don't really care THAT much.

stumpycat
01-09-2008, 12:43 AM
this is italy:
<img src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/30/world/31naples-600.jpg">
Maybe. But moneyed expatriates who choose to buy a second home in the "rustically gentrified" areas of such European nations would probably not notice! ;)

morecowbell
01-09-2008, 08:56 PM
haha no, and neither are you.

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redbull
01-09-2008, 08:57 PM
haha no, and neither are you.

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oh shit. 4chan is going to decide the election.

silverfrick
01-10-2008, 02:07 PM
I remember him going on Dennis Miller's old show on MSNBC a week before the election in 04. The whole country is talking Kerry or Bush and Billy flat out says to Dennis "I'm not voting. I think it's a broken system." Dennis was hawking Rotten Apples in and out of commercial breaks which was kind of strange considering it was released 3 years prior.

Twineball
01-10-2008, 02:13 PM
I halfway remember that.