list 'em.

1. Think You Know
2. Of A Broken Heart
3. You Were Mine
4. For Your Love
5. Mary Star

1. Jesus, I/ Mary Star of the Sea
2. Mina Loy (M.O.H.)
3. Bring the Light
4. Pomp and Circumstances
5. Rose March

Okay, the real question. What the hell happened to his voice between TFE and now?? did he contract tuberculosis or something and he can't get enough air to connect his consonants with the rest of the word? " I c..... an'tss... ing"

United States
Gossamer
TheCameraEye

Black Irish
7 Shades of Black
TheCameraEye
United States
For Your Love

Totally forgot about TheCameraEye. That should be on there; and United States should get an honorable mention.

1. Think You Know

Hmm... it seems that I don't have this song. I'll have to do something about that.

to love somebody

CameraEye
That's the Way
Stellar
Tilt
Zeitgeist

?

Starz

Think You Know
Gossamer
Mina Loy
Psalm 131
Pox

Hmm... it seems that I don't have this song. I'll have to do something about that.

Spun Soundtrack. It's amazing.

The Rose March
Mary, Star of the Sea
For Your Love
DIA
Death From Above

Jesus I/ Mary Star of the Sea
Superchrist
El-a-Noy
Love to Love You
Death From Above

The Rose March
Mary, Star of the Sea
For Your Love
DIA
Death From Above

What happened to 7 Shades of Black?

I can't do 5:

Gossamer
Glorious
Empty Sea
Bring the Light
Sunkissed
Rose March
Tarantula
MSOTS
A New Poetry
I Don't Mind
Mina Loy
7 Shades of Black

...

cameraeye
rose march
of a broken heart
pomp
stellar
love to love

Rat in a Cage
Who Wants Honey
Zipper Blues
We Must Never Be Apart
You Know I'm Not Dead

I can't do 5:

Gossamer
Glorious
Empty Sea
Bring the Light
Sunkissed
Rose March
Tarantula
MSOTS
A New Poetry
I Don't Mind
Mina Loy
7 Shades of Black

Man, this would be an amazing album.

Fuck...I forgot Stellar.

Second 5:
Stellar
MSOTS
Revolve
Cameraeye
99 Floors

this is off the top of my head, really quickyl and randomly 5 post SP1 songs i think are pretty good

to love you
pony express
girl with the cruel face
tilt
starz

Gossamer
Glorious
Think You Know
Bring The Light
Lost In The Woods (his own version of it)

Pony Express
The Shining Path
Wasting Time
Bleeding the Orchid
Friends as Lovers

+bonus track = For Your Love

Spiteface
Spiteface
Spiteface
Jackboot
Spiteface

Glorious
Mary Star
Always (sometimes I'd say For Your Love, but this is a very special song only forgotten about because of its "Spun" association)
CameraEye
Stellar

(I can't count Spilled Milk or US or Gossamer because they're more like "jams" and/or Jimmy is the highlight, not the songwriting)

Stellar
Wasting Time
Mama
Desire
Mina Loy

but i could be wrong...


to love you
pony express
girl with the cruel face
tilt


where can i get them?

A100
Lyric
The Camera Eye
Tarantula
I'm Ready

Ooooh... Desire, forgot about that one! Very underrated song.

A100
Lyric
The Camera Eye
Tarantula
I'm Ready

"I'm Ready"? Are you serious?! *shutters then pukes a little in mouth*

Yep. I love the guitar sound and the bass drum sound.

rose march
dia
stellar
cast a stone
zeitgeist

El-A-Noy
Freedom
Revolve
Whatever, Whenever
Come With Me
Jesus, I>God's Gonna Set This World On Fire
Mina Loy
A100
Doomsday Clock
Tarantula
Zeitgeist
Death From Above

Think you Know
Pomp
Ma Belle
The Leaving Lament
If All Goes Wrong/I Don't Mind

(honorable mention:
The Rose March
99 Floors
Revolve [I think that's what it's called... Billy wrote this, right?]
Freedom Ain't What it Used to Be [see above... I'm never sure which Spun songs he wrote... I know he covered "Always" and "Love is a Battlefield." I'm not sure which of the rest are covers and which he wrote]
Gossamer
Stellar
Starz
United States
Neverlost
Bring the Light
Death from Above
Pox
Again, Again, Again
Sunkissed)

For Your Love
A New Poetry
Freedom Ain't What It Used To Be
Jesus, I
Stellar

Honorable Mentions:
Zeitgeist
Mary Star of the Sea
W.P.

Here's my list:

Wasting Time
The World's Fair
MSOTS
That's the way
Bring the Light
Bleeding the Orchid
United States
Rose March

Mary Star of The Sea
Think you know
Wasting Time
Of a broken Heart
Peace and Love / The World's Fair

Honorable Mentions:

No Surrender
Stellar
To Love You
Pretty Star
The Rose March
Tilt

I think he has lost his ability to write good heavy / interesting / multi part songs Mary Star... was his last great effort in that department

Say Goodbye
TheCameraEye
7 Shades of Black
Bring the Light
For Your Love

Honorable mentions:

Chrysanthemum
The Shining Path
Mary Star of the Sea
Riverview
Endless Summer

I could name a lot more. I think Billy's mostly written good stuff since the end of SP1....he just hasn't released a lot of it.

Zeitgeist
Rose March
Mary Star of the Sea
7 Shades of Black
The Leaving Lament

where can i hear this???

Think You Know

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go to 3:27 and you can hear some. I'm sure someone'll upload it for you, but until then here's this.

gracias

is this movie any good by the way??

I couldn't get through it... I was bored and grossed out. I fast-forwarded until I saw Billy as the doctor, watch those two seconds he was on screen, then took the DVD out.

But that was like... two or three years ago. So maybe I'd like it more now.

MSOTS
Desire
7 Shades
Of a Broken Heart
Danger Boy

"Honey choose my wet dream " CamereEye

whoa whats he talking about there Billy never sings about sex

Glorious
Mary Star
Always (sometimes I'd say For Your Love, but this is a very special song only forgotten about because of its "Spun" association)
CameraEye
Stellar

(I can't count Spilled Milk or US or Gossamer because they're more like "jams" and/or Jimmy is the highlight, not the songwriting)



He didn't write "Always." It's a cover.

forgot abuot Wasting Time and Chrysanthemum, Shining Path and What Have They Done to Me

is this movie any good by the way??

I'm not the only one who thinks this movie is highly underestimated...
it's a visual masterpiece, stunning drug-cinema, shocking at the beginning, heartbreaking and beautiful in the end. and if you say it's a requiem for a dream spin-off, you're totally missing the point of the movie imo
Highly recommended,s erious.

as for the top 5:
something like

Gossamer
Wasting Time
Now and Then
That's the way
Mina Loy

honorable mention: Danger boy rides a black swan, all the other spun songs and why not starz (for the song in se, the endresult/production fucked up vocals etc isn't good i agree, live however it's classic pumpkins power)

whoa whats he talking about there Billy never sings about sex

In one of the residency songs... "Promise Me" he says "She riddled me with sex like magic sound" or SOMETHING like that.

So there.

And there are countless other lyrics I could reference if I felt like it.

I'm just now realizing you might have been trying to be sarcastic or something. If that's the case, then ignore me.

1. Jesus, I/ Mary Star of the Sea
2. Lost In The Woods
3. TheCameraEye
4. Bleeding The Orchid
5. Bring The Light

billy is asexual.

maybe he said "she fiddled with my socks like magic sound" because that would make more sense...

its weird because all rock stars usually take advantage of their status to get tail but not Billy. Maybe he is insecure about the size of his "manhood"

or maybe he's a sensitive man looking for love and not just physical pleasure.

*snicker snicker* okay, I'll stop.

remember that video with billy in the studio with courtney love, and she kept talking about their sex life? he was ignoring her and she wouldn't shut up about it. pretty funny.

Cast a Stone
Glorious
Ride a Black Swan
Chrysanthemum
How Things Are

or maybe he's a sensitive man looking for love and not just physical pleasure.



Maybe in imaginationland... and even that is unlikely

Gossamer
Mary Star/Jesus I
Chrysanthemum
The Empty Sea
Ma Belle

Jesus I, MSotS
Bleeding The Orchid
Gossamer
Rose March
CameraEye

rose march is a steaming pile of shit and lalalas

now THIS would be mind-blowing EP. how he never released these top five songs ... just wow.

- the pony express
- rivers we can't cross (full band)
- the world's fair
- columbus
- if all goes wrong

4 honorable mentions
- cast a stone (full band)
- roma girl (full band)
- white city
- that's the way (full band)

The Rose March (excluding intro and consonant problems...I wish the vocals in the whole song were like the part where he sings "Can't you see me?")
7 Shades of Black
A100
DIA
Whatever, Whenever
Wasting Time
Rivers We Can't Cross
Mary Star of the Sea
Love Lies in Ruin
A New Poetry
Cast a Stone
Chrysanthemum
Glorious
Pomp + Circumstance

camera eye
my old heart
stellar
tarantula
bring the light

wasting time
camera eye
Jesus I / msots
for my life
black parade

Think you Know
Pomp
Ma Belle
The Leaving Lament
If All Goes Wrong/I Don't Mind

(honorable mention:
The Rose March
99 Floors
Revolve [I think that's what it's called... Billy wrote this, right?]
Freedom Ain't What it Used to Be [see above... I'm never sure which Spun songs he wrote... I know he covered "Always" and "Love is a Battlefield." I'm not sure which of the rest are covers and which he wrote]
Gossamer
Stellar
Starz
United States
Neverlost
Bring the Light
Death from Above
Pox
Again, Again, Again
Sunkissed)

How can you put starz as an honerable mention? The lyrics are terrible.

gossamer
camera eye
for your love
zeitgeist
death from above

Love Lies In Ruin
Of A Broken Heart
For Your Love
Spilled Milk
Gossamer

Rose March
99 Floors
7 Shades of Black
United States
Tilt

none

Can anyone explain to me why everyone sees to like Death From Above so much? I have listened to that song countless times trying to find the appeal and have yet to understand it. Worst of the Zeitgeist tracks in my opinion.

gossamer
jesus i
desire
cameraeye
on the meaning of a loss

How can you put starz as an honerable mention? The lyrics are terrible.

Thank God there's more to music than lyrics. See: Jimmy's drumming.

Can anyone explain to me why everyone sees to like Death From Above so much? I have listened to that song countless times trying to find the appeal and have yet to understand it. Worst of the Zeitgeist tracks in my opinion.

Again. Jimmy's drumming. Also, I really like the melody... the live version is AWESOME because Billy can't ruin it with 20 of himself.

The Empty Sea
Friends as Lovers
The CameraEye
7 Shades of Black
Danger Boy

Thank God there's more to music than lyrics. See: Jimmy's drumming.



Again. Jimmy's drumming. Also, I really like the melody... the live version is AWESOME because Billy can't ruin it with 20 of himself.

I highly doubt corgan wrote jimmys drumming

doesn't matter. Also, that was only one example. I love the riff. It's fun to play, fun to listen to...

Anyone who denies the rock Starz brings live is ridiculous.

no love for desire? its probably my favorite song of his in a long while

All I can think of when I think of "Desire" is Paz singing really really loudly.

Thanks for ruining, Paz.

1.Stellar
2.Starz
3.Mina Loy
4.Sunkissed
5.Yeah! (I don't actually think this is one of the best songs on the Zwan album, it just always makes me super-happy every time I hear it).

^Sunkissed is really good. American Gothic was growing on me a little bit but I played it tonight and I was already sick of it. Except for Sunkissed. This song will stand the test of time for me, because its probably one of the very few Zeitgeist era tracks that actually attempts something different, notable the brush work, the hazy organ. its a very summery song. since when does a Billy song evoke atmosphere anymore? Good song.

I'm ashamed to admit that I have never heard the often raved about Djali Zwan songs. :noway: Actually, I have heard Think You Know, but that's it. With that being said, these are five post-SP1 from the B0lly that stand out for me:

1. Mary Star of the Sea (I always fast forward through Jesus, I.)
2. Stellar
3. Mina Loy (M.O.H.)
4. Bring the Light
5. I'm Doing The Best I Can

I'd throw JC's Life Begins Again on the list, but as far as I know, B0lly had nothin' to do with that one.

i forgot about the world's fair. that replaces stellar.

My second round

1. Walking Shade
2. 7 Shades of Black
3. Desire (someone mentioned it earlier and it made me remeber what a great song it was)
4. Pox (the American Gothic song that has grown on me the most)
5. Ma Belle

also skipgo, i dont think love to love was written by bolls.

new poetry
love lies in ruin
stellar
ma belle
mama

I'm listening to "The Empty Sea" right now. I forgot how freaking amazing this song is... ugh... Billy laughs mid-song. It's wonderful.

I love Zwan :)

i really enjoyed zwan also, the paris boot is the most listened boot i have....

Glorious
Stellar
That's the Way (My love is)
Gossamer
Doomsday Clock

Can anyone explain to me why everyone sees to like Death From Above so much?

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:banoonoo:

Friends and Lovers
Mary Star of The Sea
Bobby Franks
Riverview
For Your Love

honorable mention:
Chrysanthemum
Gossamer
United States

Can anyone explain to me why everyone sees to like Death From Above so much? I have listened to that song countless times trying to find the appeal and have yet to understand it. Worst of the Zeitgeist tracks in my opinion.

I was very meh about this song, too. Especially since the first I heard it was set to that Power Rangers video. However, after I saw the version with just Billy on acoustic and Lisa on piano from the Fillmore(?) I completely get it. That song is sublime.

Just goes to show how many amazing songs get ruined by "creative" production.

no love for desire? its probably my favorite song of his in a long while

I love Desire... the first song billy wrote post pumpkins1, and it is amazing. Very well written song. I don't think I've played it once on the acoustic where it didn't sound amazing.

I'm listening to "The Empty Sea" right now. I forgot how freaking amazing this song is... ugh... Billy laughs mid-song. It's wonderful.

I love Zwan :)

That's one that slipped my mind that probably should have been in my top 5. Incredible song.

I'm surprised that no one else has "Say Goodbye" on any of their lists. Am I the only person who loves that song? I know it was only played a couple of times, but I always thought it was one of the best of the Church Session set of songs.

remember that video with billy in the studio with courtney love, and she kept talking about their sex life? he was ignoring her and she wouldn't shut up about it. pretty funny.

ya that was lolzworthy

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If there were only 5 I colud ever listen to again from that catalogue it would be:

Lyric
DFA
Pomp
Tarantula
Stellar.

If I was being Objective I'd definately find room for Gossamer, that is a serious piece of work

I was very meh about this song, too. Especially since the first I heard it was set to that Power Rangers video. However, after I saw the version with just Billy on acoustic and Lisa on piano from the Fillmore(?) I completely get it. That song is sublime.

Just goes to show how many amazing songs get ruined by "creative" production.


It's a great song. I love the piano version and I've worked out an acoustic fingerpicked version that I must say sounds good.
But I also love the the recorded version. very different but I wouldn't say it was ruined. It's a great song in all forms.

Glorious
Gossamer
Lost in the Woods
White City
To Wonder, To Suffer

I'm surprised that no one else has "Say Goodbye" on any of their lists. Am I the only person who loves that song? I know it was only played a couple of times, but I always thought it was one of the best of the Church Session set of songs.

Yeah, Say Goodbye is a good one. But at least people know about Say Goodbye. No one ever says anything about Black Irish.

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they cut off all the sex talk here. it ends with her saying that she remembered the great sex and he said "i don't".
i remember seeing one where she kept bringing it up and he wouldn't acknowledge what she was saying.

or maybe i'm insane and made the whole thing up. Or maybe this is a different video than the one posted in the billy, courtney, kurt thead and i'm just too lazy to watch it again to find out.

No, you're right skipgo... I remember watching this on Vh1 and lolololing really loud. Billy looked so embarrassed.... hahha

doesn't matter. Also, that was only one example. I love the riff. It's fun to play, fun to listen to...

Anyone who denies the rock Starz brings live is ridiculous.

Yeah it does matter, this is the top 5 best songs billy has written post sp1, not the top 5 best songs made post sp1.

1. Mary
2. Star
3. of
4. the
5. Sea

Yeah it does matter, this is the top 5 best songs billy has written post sp1, not the top 5 best songs made post sp1.

Dude, what did I just say about the guitar riff? God, you're an idiot.

they cut off all the sex talk here. it ends with her saying that she remembered the great sex and he said "i don't".
i remember seeing one where she kept bringing it up and he wouldn't acknowledge what she was saying.

or maybe i'm insane and made the whole thing up. Or maybe this is a different video than the one posted in the billy, courtney, kurt thead and i'm just too lazy to watch it again to find out.

No you're right.. that's just the best I could find..

Impossible to cut down to 5, so here's a TOP 15 countdown...

15. Freedom Ain't What It Used To Be
14. A100
13. For Your Love
12. United States
11. I Don't Mind
10. Mary Star Of The Sea
09. Declarations Of Faith
08. Now (And Then)
07. A New Poetry
06. Starz
05. Bleeding The Orchid
04. Tarantula
03. Mina Loy (M.O.H.)
02. The Empty Sea
01. Pomp And Circumstances

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.

I forgot about 'Stellar' and 'Ma Belle'. Please insert them wherever you like.

Love Lies In Ruin, Spilled Milk, Glorious, Walking Shade...

Obviously shitty memory.

Impossible to cut down to 5, so here's a TOP 15 countdown...

15. Freedom Ain't What It Used To Be
14. A100
13. For Your Love
12. United States
11. I Don't Mind
10. Mary Star Of The Sea
09. Declarations Of Faith
08. Now (And Then)
07. A New Poetry
06. Starz
05. Bleeding The Orchid
04. Tarantula
03. Mina Loy (M.O.H.)
02. The Empty Sea
01. Pomp And Circumstances

ban

Just five is obviously quite difficult. Here's what i came up with

Cast A Stone
Ring The Bells
PPS
Stellar
Zeitgeist

Starz

What an awful song. Should be on Kidz Bop.

you just don't like it cause of the gay vocals and whole 'we are starz' part. it's not a bad song if you can get past that. some of the parts are really good actually

I forgot about 'Stellar' and 'Ma Belle'. Please insert them wherever you like.

not a problem...

you just don't like it cause of the gay vocals and whole 'we are starz' part. it's not a bad song if you can get past that. some of the parts are really good actually

Thanks for reminding me what I do and don't like. Almost forgot.

i didn't say you like it or don't like it. i just think most people overlook it for stupid reasons. that's all. notice it wasn't in my top 5.

you just don't like it cause of the gay vocals and whole 'we are starz' part. it's not a bad song if you can get past that. some of the parts are really good actually

?

um, he/she said it was an awful song already? I should have said 'most people' I guess, but from the Kidz Bop comment it seemed to be a rag on the vocals.

Nevermind it's some of the best, aggressive drumming I've ever heard from SP. I take this song and U.S. as Jimmy's response to all the cries for "drum solo" during zwan.

Glorious
Gossamer
Lost in the Woods
White City
To Wonder, To Suffer

Glorious
Gossamer
Lost in the Woods
White City
To Wonder, To Suffer

For Your Love
Pony Express
Doomsday Clock
Death From Above
Bleeding the Orchid

Think You Know
DIA
Stellar
Gossamer
Black Irish

Dude, what did I just say about the guitar riff? God, you're an idiot.


Well you take out the drumming, and that song is nothing. Without the drumming it becomes one of the worst pumpkins songs.

I'm listening to "The Empty Sea" right now. I forgot how freaking amazing this song is... ugh... Billy laughs mid-song. It's wonderful.

I love Zwan :)

i appreciate this laugh too. itd never happen at a sp2 concert.

1. a new poetry
2. mary star
3. ring the bells
4. revolve
5. think you no

5 worst
1. Sunkissed
2. Pomp
3. rose march
4. Strayz
5. pretty pretty star

A New Poetry (The rocking version)
Spilled Milk
Gossamer
For Your Love
Love Lies In Ruin

...and again, I realize how awesome Zwan could've been...

Can anyone explain to me why everyone sees to like Death From Above so much? I have listened to that song countless times trying to find the appeal and have yet to understand it. Worst of the Zeitgeist tracks in my opinion.

One of the worst Corgan-tracks ever, actually.

Love Lies In Ruin
A New Poetry
Cast A Stone
Stellar
Rivers We Can't Cross

1. Cameraeye
2. Stellar
3. Love To Love
4. Settle Down
5. Think You Know

Friends + Lovers
Tilt
Bobby Franks
Stellar
United States
Bring The Light
Stellar
Ma Belle
For God and Country

Theres others but thats off the top of my head.

Love Lies In Ruin, For Your Love and Stellar.


I don't what other 2, since I'd probably have a tie somewhere.

I love these songs so much, I decided to upload them in case you don't have 'em
http://www.mediafire.com/?0bmxbyz2tqo

I actually remember listening to the Paris bootleg and thinking Starzwas was going to be one of the best tracks on Zeitgeist. There is no denying how great that song is live. I do not hate the album version as much as everyone else, but it certainly is not one of my favorites.

Gossamer
Lost In The Woods
Tilt
Of A Broken Heart
Yeah

A New Poetry
Love Lies In Ruin
Mary, Star of the Sea
United States
Neverlost




I think I could make 2 separate respectable lists just using non-album Zwan songs and Chicago songs.

1. Cameraeye
2. Stellar
3. Love To Love
4. Settle Down
5. Think You Know

billy did not write love to love. UFO did

Lost In The Woods = Taproot yes?

Lost In The Woods = Taproot yes?

Yes--performed by. Written (produced also?) by Billy.

there is a studio video of billy playing it. i have it on my comp, are we allowed to share it again on the sp hub?

there is a studio video of billy playing it. i have it on my comp, are we allowed to share it again on the sp hub?

Ah, I did not know this. Do share, if you can.

MOH
BTL
Tarantula
Gossamer
Endless Summer (sorry, had to pick at least 1 Zwan song)

Rivers we can't cross
Endless Summer
Baby Let's Rock
Stellar
Gossamer