View Full Version : the opening of bleed the orchid sounds like a chorus of dying cats


Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 12:19 AM
petition for billy to never do harmonies again

ginger's brother please show this petition to billy

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 12:20 AM
i think i made this thread before....

D.
01-04-2008, 12:21 AM
you've been here for 9 frigging years. all you threads have been made before.

cork_soaker
01-04-2008, 12:44 AM
yeah, this was dumb

monkeyfritters
01-04-2008, 01:17 AM
ginger GINGER GINGER GINGER

what a shitty song, bleeding the orchid.


I HAtE thIS BAND

redbull
01-04-2008, 02:00 AM
I'M SO BO-O-ORED WITH THE USA
I'M SO BO-O-ORED WITH THE USA

wHATcOLOR
01-04-2008, 02:03 AM
i support this thread

tcm
01-04-2008, 02:24 AM
pssshaww.

monkeyfritters
01-04-2008, 02:27 AM
BUT WHAT CAN I DO?

smashapumpkin
01-04-2008, 02:37 AM
every song sounds like another song

talk show host
01-04-2008, 03:02 AM
Terrible song

redbull
01-04-2008, 03:08 AM
i think this is maybe the best song on zeitgeist, minus the first 5 seconds or so

srt4b
01-04-2008, 03:45 AM
i think this is maybe the worst song on zeitgeist, sans pomp

teh b0lly!!1
01-04-2008, 05:27 AM
i really fucking laughed my ass off out loud at "a chorus of dying cats" for some reason
best thread on the sp board at the moment

xezton
01-04-2008, 07:44 AM
holyshit you guyz I've thought it WAS a chorus a dying cats this whole time I was 'bout to get PETA all over this I guess I don't have to now











But seriously, dying cats.

zerock
01-04-2008, 07:55 AM
i bet billy is annoyed by this thread.

teh b0lly!!1
01-04-2008, 07:59 AM
holyshit you guyz I've thought it WAS a chorus a dying cats this whole time I was 'bout to get PETA all over this I guess I don't have to now











But seriously, dying cats.

:noway:

mxzombie
01-04-2008, 08:32 AM
i think this is maybe the worst song on zeitgeist, sans pompagree with this

xezton
01-04-2008, 08:37 AM
agree with this

will do

xezton
01-04-2008, 09:00 AM
Billy had to kill some cats for Rose March on AG too. :(

The Jesus
01-04-2008, 09:17 AM
It's more like a chorus of religious cats singing to their feline deity.

xezton
01-04-2008, 10:09 AM
It's more like a chorus of religious cats singing to their feline deity.

holy shitegeist

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GPp0g0A_6x8&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GPp0g0A_6x8&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>


They just need lasers coming out of their eyes for Billy to accept them.

sweetanthony
01-04-2008, 10:33 AM
I don't understand the hatred for this song. Can someone be serious and explain it to me? And don't just say "terrible song" or "because it sucks" - *setting self up for flaming, but not caring*

paranoid
01-04-2008, 10:50 AM
I don't understand the hatred for this song. Can someone be serious and explain it to me? And don't just say "terrible song" or "because it sucks" - *setting self up for flaming, but not caring*

do not give this thread the attention is does not deserve.

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 10:52 AM
I don't understand the hatred for this song. Can someone be serious and explain it to me? And don't just say "terrible song" or "because it sucks" - *setting self up for flaming, but not caring*

because its boring mid tempo grungy muck?

zerock
01-04-2008, 11:12 AM
I don't understand the hatred for this song. Can someone be serious and explain it to me? And don't just say "terrible song" or "because it sucks" - *setting self up for flaming, but not caring*

maybe because "the opening of bleed the orchid sounds like a chorus of dying cats" and of course that's what this thread is about.

sweetanthony
01-04-2008, 11:33 AM
Paranoid: I think you're right.

The answers to my question have failed so far.

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 11:38 AM
Failed what? To not demonstrate any other opinion that isn't your own?

Skradgee
01-04-2008, 11:48 AM
music video concept!

singing dying cats > better than what Billy or some other director would do

duovamp
01-04-2008, 11:50 AM
I can't stand the entire song... :(

sweetanthony
01-04-2008, 12:10 PM
Failed what? To not demonstrate any other opinion that isn't your own?

Failed to demonstrate what makes the song so hated. Your opinion of it being boring and mucky, don't argue the point very well.

xezton
01-04-2008, 12:11 PM
Failed to demonstrate what makes the song so hated. Your opinion of it being boring and mucky, don't argue the point very well.

Prease demonstrate what makes you like it.

Your opinion doesn't quell the dying cats.


I agree with whoever said something about "minus the first 5 seconds" or whatever. Same goes for Rose March. Take out the stupid terrible sounding intros and they would be better songs.

I don't understand why I'm telling you this, but if you want to get technical, Billy's voice is naturally nasal. Typically singers in a choir tend to have hallow sounding, or open voices. Their voices are rich, and so when blended together, sound nice, pleasant.

Billy's voice is like a lead guitar. It's scratching and nasal, and is good for melodies because it carries itself well over the rest of the song. But having a choir of lead guitars sounds pretty bad, because one scratching nasal voice is enough, but 4 of them is just annoying, it's too loud and you can't easily hear the rest of the notes well, if only because the stack of scratch is just too much.

As if that weren't bad enough, Billy tends to "punch" his utterances, so instead of "aaaaahhh" he sings "ACHaaaaaahhh". So stack 4 or more "ACHaaah"'s over eachother and you get "FHDJIAPOHVIAaaaahhh". In English, his attacks are too strong to sound nice in a choir of his own voice.

Gossamer
01-04-2008, 12:14 PM
without a doubt the best song on zeitgeist

tcm
01-04-2008, 12:26 PM
I can't stand the entire song... :(

well don't just stand there. go like this: :rockon:

tcm
01-04-2008, 12:27 PM
having a choir of lead guitars sounds pretty bad

whatever you say, grampa.

Twineball
01-04-2008, 12:31 PM
I like the song. Dying cats and all.

duovamp
01-04-2008, 12:36 PM
well don't just stand there. go like this: :rockon:


I'll give it a go. We'll see how things turn out after the :rockon:ing.

xezton
01-04-2008, 12:55 PM
having a choir of lead guitars sounds pretty bad
whatever you say, grampa.

The funny thing is, I say things like that, but then I go and listen to (and enjoy) 3 albums worth of Nintendo Entertainment System OSVs.

So yeah, I think it's just the dying cats. A choir of lead dying cats sounds pretty bad.

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 01:07 PM
what are OSVs?

xezton
01-04-2008, 01:10 PM
what are OSVs?

some OMG KAWAII DESU ^___^ acronym for "original sound version"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=UXC&q=define%3A+osv&btnG=Search

It's the music recorded straight from the system.

cork_soaker
01-04-2008, 01:11 PM
Original Sound Version, a title used for old video game soundtracks that included the actual score rather than symphonic remakes of the themes

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 01:12 PM
some stupid KAWAII DESU DESU ^___^ acronym for "original sound version"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=UXC&q=define%3A+osv&btnG=Search

It's the music recorded straight from the system.

Awesome, I'll check them out when i get home. I've been downloading .NES files for the longest time and playing them with meredian advance which is kind of a shitty program. I know there .gym and .spc for genesis and snes tracks but i cant find a good player for them, do yuo know of any?

sweetanthony
01-04-2008, 01:13 PM
I don't know maybe the rolling bass, haunting/dissonant verse guitars, waves of crashing metallic distortion in chorus/outro, thundering drums and outro's drum rolls just magnificient...

outro solo is prestine and violent.

Lyrics paint very vivid pictures; literally and figuratively.

Overall a throwback-type song that feels very fresh. Very comparable to "I of the Mourning" also a SP gem.

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 01:15 PM
I don't know maybe the rolling bass, haunting/dissonant verse guitars, waves of crashing metallic distortion in chorus/outro, thundering drums and outro's drum rolls just magnificient...

outro solo is prestine and violent.

Lyrics paint very vivid pictures; literally and figuratively.

Overall a throwback-type song that feels very fresh. Very comparable to "I of the Mourning" also a SP gem.

what you call haunting/dissonant verse guitars i call dated, overproduced cheesy tones from the mid 90s. and while i like old guitar tones usually the context is in a lo-fi setting which corgan is obviously not aiming for. so do you see the pointlessness in trying to 'prove' points on a largely subjective matter?

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 01:16 PM
however though we can objectively deduce that corgan's harmonies are poison to the ears

xezton
01-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Awesome, I'll check them out when i get home. I've been downloading .NES files for the longest time and playing them with meredian advance which is kind of a shitty program. I know there .gym and .spc for genesis and snes tracks but i cant find a good player for them, do yuo know of any?

Well I USED to use orchnestra.com's mp3 rips. But that site went down, then came back, but the guy has yet to put the archives back online.

I haven't ripped any music or listened to the dumps with any player directly, so can't help ya there.

But let me tell you this, driving down the road with your windows open booming out Super Mario 2 gives you a great feeling.

xezton
01-04-2008, 01:17 PM
however though we can objectively deduce that corgan's harmonies are poison to the ears

agree with this

sweetanthony
01-04-2008, 01:22 PM
My ears were poisoned long ago, so maybe that's why I disagree about BC's harmonies sounding like a chorus of dyring cats. Maybe we could find an example in MP3 form somewhere online, so we could compare the intro to a snippet of actual dying cats? Sounds like a plan for you nerds who rock out to Super Mario tunes.... get on it!

suncrashesdown
01-04-2008, 01:29 PM
some OMG KAWAII DESU ^___^ acronym for "original sound version"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=UXC&q=define%3A+osv&btnG=Search

It's the music recorded straight from the system.

You're going to love the 8-bit NES version of Doomsday Clock I'm doing for that gay Zeitgeist cover contest on that other Pumpkins site then.

xezton
01-04-2008, 01:32 PM
You're going to love the 8-bit NES version of Doomsday Clock I'm doing for that gay Zeitgeist cover contest on that other Pumpkins site then.

You're damn fucking right I am. Are you done with it? Plz send.



Also, in regards to the other guy who asked about stuff:
These links are interesting and are related to the whole emulating music chiptune scene.
http://www.vorc.org/
http://www.2a03.org/

don't know if that helps


Also, I was planning on one day working on / finishing an album of original songs done in 8-bit NES style. I have been re-inspired to work on that more.

suncrashesdown
01-04-2008, 01:39 PM
You're damn fucking right I am. Are you done with it? Plz send.

It's not going to be finished for another couple of hours, but I'll put it up here when it's finished. It's my first attempt at chiptune style, so I hope it doesn't suck too bad.

xezton
01-04-2008, 02:33 PM
It's not going to be finished for another couple of hours, but I'll put it up here when it's finished. It's my first attempt at chiptune style, so I hope it doesn't suck too bad.

Can't wait

smashkin33
01-04-2008, 03:28 PM
BTO's opening still sounds better than The Rose March's opening.

xezton
01-04-2008, 03:49 PM
BTO's opening still sounds better than The Rose March's opening.

This I'll agree with. But I don't like either.

wilch
01-04-2008, 03:51 PM
the beginning sounds cool, hence a chorus of dying cats sounds cool

SpFission
01-04-2008, 03:55 PM
the sound of dying cats is in right now, stfu

tcm
01-04-2008, 03:55 PM
for once we see eye to eye, wilch.

smashkin33
01-04-2008, 03:56 PM
i'm not into cats, dead or alive.

wilch
01-04-2008, 03:58 PM
:love:

wilch
01-04-2008, 03:59 PM
hey whats theis reputation points thing just noticed it

xezton
01-04-2008, 04:00 PM
hey whats theis reputation points thing just noticed it

I don't know but I disapprove of yousa.

wilch
01-04-2008, 04:04 PM
yeah 10 rep points bitchez suck on THAT ill give TCM one for complimeting me

wilch
01-04-2008, 04:06 PM
how do you find out which of your posts have gotten rep?

xezton
01-04-2008, 04:06 PM
how do you find out which of your posts have gotten rep?

it's in your control panel thingiemajigg.

click "user CP".


edit: I expect 1 positive rep for this answer.

wilch
01-04-2008, 04:09 PM
still dont see where it shows rep...

wilch
01-04-2008, 04:13 PM
come on xezton your rep depends on answering this

skipgo
01-04-2008, 04:30 PM
i have a feeling rep is the only thing anyone on netphoria is going to talk about for a while. it's everywhere i go.

wilch
01-04-2008, 04:31 PM
well come on its rep

skipgo
01-04-2008, 04:32 PM
yeah, i guess so.

oh anyway, i came to this thread to agree with mayfuck about the dying cats. I can almost picture them now...

xezton
01-04-2008, 05:57 PM
Billy should allow us to add or subtract rep from each track on Zeitgeist and AG.

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 06:00 PM
we can cut out a bunch of red squares from construction paper and mail them to billy

xezton
01-04-2008, 06:05 PM
we can cut out a bunch of red squares from construction paper and mail them to billy

red for negative rep?:banging::banging::banging:

Mr. Mister
01-04-2008, 06:31 PM
Rep me...rep me, my friend. Courtney...shot me in the head.

slowdawn
01-04-2008, 06:37 PM
Bleeding the Orchid = awesome.

Bring on the negative rep, IDGAF.

andrewface
01-04-2008, 06:50 PM
petition for billy to never do harmonies again

ginger's brother please show this petition to billy

fuck you you dirty cuntscab motherfucker

yoshinobu's revenge
01-04-2008, 08:33 PM
Bleeding the Orchid = one of the worst and most overrated Zeitgeist songs.

Gish08
01-04-2008, 08:45 PM
It's a good song.

Also, if you blast Bleeding the Orchid on a good system, it sounds pretty tight, yo. Real bassy but lots of texture.

paranoid
01-04-2008, 10:38 PM
it's great live with ginger and lisa singing the harmonies.. sounds damn haunting.

Mayfuck
01-04-2008, 10:49 PM
i agree, its a very haunting song. just think about how awful it is scares me.

cork_soaker
01-04-2008, 10:58 PM
i ain't afraid'a no ghost

You Said
01-05-2008, 04:23 AM
bleeding the orchahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

DisarmDoomsday
01-05-2008, 03:11 PM
I love this live version of the song though...


http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

teh b0lly!!1
01-05-2008, 03:27 PM
i bet billy was woken up by a couple of cats moaning outside his window and was suddenly inspired to write a song