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Electron52
01-01-2008, 12:20 AM
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=270617258&s=143441

as part of the deluxe Zeitgeist. I guess the 'stand alone' version will be up soon. :)

Gish08
01-01-2008, 12:31 AM
There's a torrent of it on mininova as well... no seeds though, it's abandoned or something.

AnnMarie727
01-01-2008, 12:35 AM
awesome

Spaceboy88
01-01-2008, 12:38 AM
Love it

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 12:39 AM
i figured it was about time to give some hard earned dollars to billy. there is something so instant and satisfying about itunes.

edit: sounds like they got the production right

wHATcOLOR
01-01-2008, 12:46 AM
la la la la la la la la la lal al la lal al

:/

AnnMarie727
01-01-2008, 12:46 AM
i like again, again, again a lot

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 12:47 AM
la la la la la la la la la lal al la lal al

:/

whatever.. you're anxiously anticipating the all vocal album as we all are

AnnMarie727
01-01-2008, 12:54 AM
RoseMarch is beautiful! lalaladada... =)!

wHATcOLOR
01-01-2008, 12:55 AM
whatever.. you're anxiously anticipating the all vocal album as we all are

have only listened to one song so far, but at least he's doing a better job of faking that he gives a crap about what he's singing


which i guess isn't saying all that much

AnnMarie727
01-01-2008, 12:57 AM
:)

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 01:01 AM
c - ant help

t - night


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AnnMarie727
01-01-2008, 01:13 AM
sunkissed :)

You Said
01-01-2008, 01:20 AM
this sucks.

aorta
01-01-2008, 01:25 AM
yousendit? Can anyone post a link?


http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=270617258&s=143441

as part of the deluxe Zeitgeist. I guess the 'stand alone' version will be up soon. :)

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 01:27 AM
it's three dollars and ninety six cents. though maybe that was their plan all along?

edit: full of black hole and anniversary nights...? wait now I'm confused.

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 01:27 AM
Where is the individual version?!

Should I just buy each song from the deluxe version?

skipgo
01-01-2008, 01:28 AM
this sucks.

agreed. :(

not the usual pumpkins acoustic sound. i should've guessed.
i guess i'll give it time though.

aorta
01-01-2008, 01:30 AM
I don't have a valid credit card at the moment. Anyone feel like being nice and posting some links??

it's three dollars and ninety six cents. though maybe that was their plan all along?

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 01:30 AM
I don't have a valid credit card at the moment. Anyone feel like being nice and posting some links??

it fucking rocks!!! you're totally missing out

Gish08
01-01-2008, 01:34 AM
Rocks isn't quite the word. It's quite... folky?

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 01:35 AM
Of course, there are no Lisa/Ginger backing vocals, but Bill making stupid noises.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 01:36 AM
Rocks isn't quite the word. It's quite... folky?

put up your dukes

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 01:44 AM
Yeah, this is...ok. Just OK. The residency songs were far better.

And POX is pretty fucking lame. I was hoping it would be Peace and Love.

skipgo
01-01-2008, 01:45 AM
i really wanted to like this.

i didn't like DFA the first few times I heard it, and now it's one of my favorites of the newer songs, so maybe i'll change my mind at some point.
As for the Rose March, i much prefer the live version, but maybe just because it's what i'm used to hearing.

I prefer the simplicity of the tonight tonight b-sides when it comes to acoustic pumpkins.

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 01:47 AM
i really wanted to like this.

i didn't like DFA the first few times I heard it, and now it's one of my favorites of the newer songs, so maybe i'll change my mind at some point.
As for the Rose March, i much prefer the live version, but maybe just because it's what i'm used to hearing.

I prefer the simplicity of the tonight tonight b-sides when it comes to acoustic pumpkins.

I agree with all of this. It sounds too...busy. With the Residency songs and the old acoustics, it really sounded like it was just Billy and his guitar. This sounds like there is too much going on.

Waiting
01-01-2008, 01:49 AM
Can someone upload these, please?! I will give head, virtually. :banging:

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 01:52 AM
Well, I just finished listening to it. That was highly disappointing all around. In fact, I liked Zeitgeist better than that.

*Goes back to listening to the Residency Songs compilation from thepumpkins.net*

skipgo
01-01-2008, 01:56 AM
*Goes back to listening to the Residency Songs compilation from thepumpkins.net*

this is a good plan.
i agree, it sounds too busy.

Fritter
01-01-2008, 01:56 AM
Yeah can anyone throw a download up? It's not out in Australia yet.

tyguy666
01-01-2008, 01:57 AM
will anyone share?

T&T
01-01-2008, 02:02 AM
its out jan 2ed
and already a backlash...

you beat us all to it BurtSampson ;)


is there a way i can get thepumpkins.net to upload my better version of the residency comp?
the one they are sharing is an mp3 transcode.... (I know, i put it together...)

Waiting
01-01-2008, 02:05 AM
I just listened to the samples from Itunes and the songs really are too busy and a huge disappointment. Why could they have not been raw and not so... its just sad to see the band going down. To pumpkins.net it is.

enthusaroo
01-01-2008, 02:05 AM
Will somebody please share? :(

No credit card right now and no access to iTunes. :( :(

Waiting
01-01-2008, 02:08 AM
Don't hold your breath.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 02:13 AM
you are so missing out... it's spacey, breathy, heavy, gritty, soft, beautiful, empty, scattered, focused, dramatic, hilarious and gothic


who doesnt have some form of credit card anyway? no american I know

edit: I for one am happy they aren't repeating themselves. How many versions of 1979 do you need?

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 02:15 AM
you are so missing out... it's spacey, breathy, heavy, gritty, soft, beautiful, empty, scattered, focused, dramatic, hilarious and gothic


It's gay.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 02:15 AM
don't forget hilarious

Waiting
01-01-2008, 02:16 AM
Can someone fucking upload it?

Whats gay is Icky Thump and the shit known as the White Stripes.

deadaswarhol
01-01-2008, 02:16 AM
Can someone fucking upload it?

posts/username

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 02:17 AM
Can someone fucking upload it?

Whats gay is Icky Thump and the shit known as the White Stripes.

oop. I was gonna upload it till you put down jack white.

Waiting
01-01-2008, 02:20 AM
he deserves to be put down. What the fuck is he on? My 2 yr old brother plays better/more interesting music simply strumming/banging on my guitar.

deadaswarhol
01-01-2008, 02:25 AM
i'll second(or third) the request for upload.

plus i like the white stripes

enthusaroo
01-01-2008, 02:28 AM
you are so missing out... it's spacey, breathy, heavy, gritty, soft, beautiful, empty, scattered, focused, dramatic, hilarious and gothic


who doesnt have some form of credit card anyway? no american I know

edit: I for one am happy they aren't repeating themselves. How many versions of 1979 do you need?

I'm working in China right now. No access to iTunes. :mad:

Can someone please throw a download up?

You Said
01-01-2008, 02:29 AM
oop. I was gonna upload it till you put down jack white.

as was I.

Waiting
01-01-2008, 02:32 AM
fuckers.

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 02:36 AM
fuckers.

*Cue intro to Marquis in Spades*

Waiting
01-01-2008, 02:36 AM
Here you go: <a href="http://www.lemonparty.org/">http://rapidshare.com/files/68510989/Smashing_Pumpkins_Gothic_2007.rar</a>

skipgo
01-01-2008, 02:37 AM
that's original.

Waiting
01-01-2008, 02:39 AM
danke

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 02:40 AM
Here you go: <a href="http://www.lemonparty.org/">http://rapidshare.com/files/68510989/Smashing_Pumpkins_Gothic_2007.rar</a>

porous

skipgo
01-01-2008, 02:45 AM
danke

:2thumbsup


oh, and i'd up it for you, but i just listened to the previews on itunes. i didn't like the sound at all, and i doubt i'll buy them. I don't know, maybe I'll get the import just to have it, but i won't be buying it from itunes.

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 02:46 AM
Seriously Waiting, it's 4 fucking dollars. Either man up and pay for it or torrent it. Quit being a little bitch.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 02:47 AM
are you asking a person to convert the apple shit and then upload it? thats a lot of work

You Said
01-01-2008, 02:47 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/80441731/Zeitgeist.rar.html

Waiting
01-01-2008, 02:48 AM
.....

enthusaroo
01-01-2008, 02:49 AM
Seriously Waiting, it's 4 fucking dollars. Either man up and pay for it or torrent it. Quit being a little bitch.

It's not a matter of money. I'm quite sure everyone requesting it in this thread are either A) Not in the U.S, or B) Don't have a valid credit card. I'd like to listen to it and if it's good then purchase it when it becomes available just like I do with all new music.

It's still the holiday season, so I thought that someone would have the heart to give Netphorians the chance to download it. Anyone who puts it up to download would be a hero on here (for at least a few days ;)).

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 02:50 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/80441731/Zeitgeist.rar.html

http://www.jakesjokes.com/gallery/albums/funnypics_weird/normal_274-dork.jpg

SaturnineMantra
01-01-2008, 02:50 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/80441731/Zeitgeist.rar.html

They're DRM'ed.

Thanks anyways though

Rider
01-01-2008, 02:51 AM
It's not a matter of money. I'm quite sure everyone requesting it in this thread are either A) Not in the U.S, or B) Don't have a valid credit card. I'd like to listen to it and if it's good then purchase it when it becomes available just like I do with all new music.

It's still the holiday season, so I thought that someone would have the heart to give Netphorians the chance to download it. Anyone who puts it up to download would be a hero on here (for at least a few days ;)).


Still no excuse for the constant annoying begging.

Floppy Nono
01-01-2008, 03:01 AM
i bought them and they aren't too bad, even good i would say. theres parts of them that sound great and interesting and then there are some parts that seem so bland i can't even believe it. he also ruined my favorite part of Rose March (the "i'll lay roses at your feet" part towards the end) but so far its been mostly a pleasurable experience to hear these songs. the crux sounds like a zwan song (a good one, that is) and pox just came on and i like it so far. I think it's worth the four bucks to anyone who seems on the fence about them, but thats just my opinion.


pox is pretty awesome, it's got a darker 90's feel to it. "Every angel sleeps somewhere/sometimes" (i believe he changes the last word in the song towards the end)

sunkissed is pretty ho hum and sing-songy, the Pomp and Circumstances of this EP for sure. i think i need to give it another listen when im more awake

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:05 AM
<i>upload it</i>

i bought them and they aren't too bad, even good i would say. theres parts of them that sound great and interesting and then there are some parts that seem so bland i can't even believe it. he also ruined my favorite part of Rose March (the "i'll lay roses at your feet" part towards the end) but so far its been mostly a pleasurable experience to hear these songs. the crux sounds like a zwan song (a good one, that is) and pox just came on and i like it so far. I think it's worth the four bucks to anyone who seems on the fence about them, but thats just my opinion.

Floppy Nono
01-01-2008, 03:07 AM
i don't have the software to convert them and im about to go to sleep. it's 3 AM here. if someone doesn't upload them by tomorrow i'll see what i can do. sorry, frankie.

wHATcOLOR
01-01-2008, 03:08 AM
as was I.



same here

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:10 AM
3 pages and not one upload yet

you guys suck ass at spreading shit


if i had it i would've upped it to every site imaginable and posted it in the first post of this stupid thread

Floppy Nono
01-01-2008, 03:12 AM
this begs the question of why don't you have it?

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:12 AM
3 pages and not one upload yet

you guys suck ass at spreading shit


if i had it i would've upped it to every site imaginable and posted it in the first post of this stupid thread

and then... judge judy

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:17 AM
I don't have it because I refuse to pay for drm music.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't share it if I had it.
The file is probably under 25 mb's it would take less than 10 minutes to upload.

This thing has been available on itunes for a good 3 hours now and plenty of people here have it so I don't see why no one is sharing.

Floppy Nono
01-01-2008, 03:18 AM
i haven't uploaded it yet because i refuse to pay for your drm free music.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:18 AM
I don't have it because I refuse to pay for drm music.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't share it if I had it.
The file is probably under 25 mb's it would take less than 10 minutes to upload.

This thing has been available on itunes for a good 3 hours now and plenty of people here have it so I don't see why no one is sharing.

it's 16.5m with apple compression

amar0331
01-01-2008, 03:19 AM
Anyone else think Age of Innocence at the beginning of Again Again Again?

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:20 AM
Anyone else think Age of Innocence at the beginning of Again Again Again?

no more than the rim shots of tonight tonight

Floppy Nono
01-01-2008, 03:20 AM
Anyone else think Age of Innocence at the beginning of Again Again Again?

i didn't but i def hear the similarity in the drum beat now that you mention it. It's a pretty standard beat though, soooo..

Waiting
01-01-2008, 03:22 AM
I hope that all of you choke on your breakfast. Goodnight.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:23 AM
I hope that all of you choke on your breakfast. Goodnight.

rose march and pox are the best. how do I go about converting them for you?

Floppy Nono
01-01-2008, 03:23 AM
such animosity over four bucks worth of songs.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:25 AM
what is the point of hoarding them when you can very easily share them with the rest of the community?

idk, I don't mean to sound like a dick but I just got home from a party and honestly the first thing on my mind was to come here and hear the new ep.


i don't get why people are not sharing when it would take less than 10 minutes of your time.

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 03:25 AM
The more important issue is that I have $1.05 left on my iTunes gift card. What should I buy from the B-Sides and Rarities collection? I'm thinking either Infinite Sadness or Never Let Me Down Again.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:27 AM
what is the point of hoarding them when you can very easily share them with the rest of the community?

idk, I don't mean to sound like a dick but I just got home from a party and honestly the first thing on my mind was to come here and hear the new ep.


i just don't get why people are not sharing the wealth when it would take less than 10 minutes of your time.

personally I believe it's one thing to burn the (free) aol sessions and upload them to high heaven but to purchase, convert, and upload itunes tracks is something else entirely. Im not really looking forward to a subpoena

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:29 AM
The more important issue is that I have $1.05 left on my iTunes gift card. What should I buy from the B-Sides and Rarities collection? I'm thinking either Infinite Sadness or Never Let Me Down Again.

never let me down loses it's amazingness after 100 listens. it just doesnt stand the test of time

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:32 AM
So I'm seriously going to have to wait til tomorrow to here this then?

Whatev, time to watch the Twilight Zone marathon.

BurtSampson
01-01-2008, 03:33 AM
never let me down loses it's amazingness after 100 listens. it just doesnt stand the test of time

Hmm, I guess Infinite Sadness it is then. This way, I can finally listen to MCIS with the full vinyl tracklisting.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:34 AM
Hmm, I guess Infinite Sadness it is then. This way, I can finally listen to MCIS with the full vinyl tracklisting.

id go with pox from american gothic but who knows, we may not be into the same shit

enthusaroo
01-01-2008, 03:35 AM
Poop

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:35 AM
I'll have the non-DRM version of these tracks up in a little bit. I'm converting now...

rebel

edit: I expect a full review from Waiting.

You Said
01-01-2008, 03:36 AM
what is the point of hoarding them when you can very easily share them with the rest of the community?

idk, I don't mean to sound like a dick but I just got home from a party and honestly the first thing on my mind was to come here and hear the new ep.


i don't get why people are not sharing when it would take less than 10 minutes of your time.

no one is hoarding fuckwit, it's there waiting for you.

You Said
01-01-2008, 03:42 AM
you'd think you would atleast give that bald faggot atleast $4 I mean he's selling his signature to make money now.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:44 AM
I'll have the non-DRM version of these tracks up in a little bit. I'm converting now...

thanks bud

at least someone around here is not a complete asshole

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 03:45 AM
you'd think you would atleast give that bald faggot atleast $4 I mean he's selling his signature to make money now. )

amar0331
01-01-2008, 03:51 AM
Next time can we get the chicks to do backups?

loser2d
01-01-2008, 03:52 AM
dang
all this excitement on new years

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:54 AM
ah great episode of the twlight zone on right now

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:55 AM
i'm going to keep talking about the twilight zone till i get the ep

loser2d
01-01-2008, 03:55 AM
really
im watching tila online

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:56 AM
The episode on right now is called "Five Characters In Search of An Exit".

You Said
01-01-2008, 03:57 AM
"shell shocked and half cocked" :erm:

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:57 AM
It's from the 3rd season.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:58 AM
This is the plot synopsis:
an army major awakens in a small room with no idea of who he is or how he got there. He finds four other people in the same room, and they all begin to question how they each arrived there, and more importantly, how to escape.

tyguy666
01-01-2008, 03:59 AM
looks like 2008 is going to be full of hoarders and cheapskates haha

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 03:59 AM
I remember that in 7th grade I had this awesome math teacher that all we had to do was mention the twilight zone and he would go off track for a good 30 minutes talking about random episodes.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:00 AM
yeah hoarders and cheapskates and pretty much the shittiest community ever, it's a shame it's the largest most active one, or I definitely would not be here.

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:00 AM
same here
only mine talks about rhode island currently

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:00 AM
yeah so my math teacher from 7th grade, this was one of his favorite episodes.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:01 AM
the capital of rhode island is providence.

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:01 AM
good job
you get a gold star

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:02 AM
the state was named after a greek island called Rhodes.


funny story about Rhodes, I was there a few years ago.

beautiful island, lots of very good looking people and architecture.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:02 AM
another really good episode that my math teach always talked about was "To Serve Man"

he loved that one.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:03 AM
it's a shame he's dead now, he was a very cool guy

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:03 AM
cancer fucking sucks

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:04 AM
hahaha
my teacher has a mail order bride from korea
she wears all white with a white umbrella and reads near a dumpster at a park

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:04 AM
it'd be nice if someone uploaded this now

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:04 AM
i was madly in love with this korean chick in 10th grade.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:05 AM
she's a huge slut now.




i should call her.

The New
01-01-2008, 04:06 AM
you should stfu

You Said
01-01-2008, 04:06 AM
"Humpbacked and Sugar shacked" :erm:

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:07 AM
not until someone uploads this fucking shitty ass $4 EP that they are hoarding

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:07 AM
cuz they're douchebags

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:07 AM
fine... shit



<a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=187927817">
http://rapidshare.com/a7/ftrma/30/z/a>

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:08 AM
hmm my favorite twilight zone episode is probably The Midnight Sun.

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:09 AM
i <3 scott walker!
you made my day

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:09 AM
yeah scott walker is awful


the drift is quite possibly the worst thing I have ever subjected myself to








worse than minutes to midnight

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:10 AM
hmm my favorite twilight zone episode is probably The Midnight Sun.


http://static.flickr.com/79/261457181_83009a8652_o.jpg

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:11 AM
yeah scott walker is awful


the drift is quite possibly the worst thing I have ever subjected myself to

worse than minutes to midnight

I love 30 Century Man

You Said
01-01-2008, 04:11 AM
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/O-JJSu6r74Y&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/O-JJSu6r74Y&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:12 AM
http://static.flickr.com/79/261457181_83009a8652_o.jpg

lol

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:12 AM
At least I don't hoard EP's of bands way past their prime at 4 in the morning on new years day.

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:13 AM
At least I don't hoard EP's of bands way past their prime at 4 in the morning on new years day.

what's the opposite of that?

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:14 AM
what's the opposite of that?

be a cheapskate and not buying it yourself

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:14 AM
this:
http://www.ivygateblog.com/images/HOWYALIKEMENOW500.jpg

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:14 AM
be a cheapskate and not buying it yourself

... and bitch about it

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:15 AM
oop. men seeking men just arrived. night folks

You Said
01-01-2008, 04:15 AM
this:
http://www.ivygateblog.com/images/HOWYALIKEMENOW500.jpg

a faggot?

enthusaroo
01-01-2008, 04:15 AM
There's an issue with converting.

Someone who's downloaded these songs to their iTunes... all you need to do is download this program: http://hymn-project.org/download.php

And then you can convert from the DRM .m4p format to .mp3. Sorry guys. I tried. But I don't have the right permissions under iTunes to convert these files. So a person who actually downloaded the songs will need to do the conversion. Doh!

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:17 AM
i could honestly convert these things in seriously less than 1 minute if somebody sent me the fucking files already

tyguy666
01-01-2008, 04:17 AM
share for the love of god. start the new year on a good note

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:17 AM
oop. men seeking men just arrived. night folks

damn
you gave me good lulz tonight

enthusaroo
01-01-2008, 04:17 AM
The program is called myFairTunes

cork_soaker
01-01-2008, 04:19 AM
it's good; i like it.

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:21 AM
cool man, you should share it

Future Boy
01-01-2008, 04:27 AM
it sucks; i hate it

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:29 AM
cool man, you should share it

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:31 AM
At least I don't hoard EP's of bands way past their prime at 4 in the morning on new years day.

gossamer

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:31 AM
frankenstein

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:32 AM
my friend, share the wealth

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:33 AM
itunes

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:33 AM
frankenstein
what happened to men seeking men?
lol

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:35 AM
itunes is shit

Frankenstein
01-01-2008, 04:36 AM
frankenstein
what happened to men seeking men?
lol

stop trying to love me

cork_soaker
01-01-2008, 04:39 AM
this is cute

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:39 AM
stop trying to love me

lol
damn
this is better than my drunk relatives
lol

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:42 AM
this is cute

is everything cute to you?

cork_soaker
01-01-2008, 04:43 AM
it's a little gay; it's a little optimistic

Gossamer
01-01-2008, 04:44 AM
sort of like billy





makes sense i guess

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:45 AM
oh ok
makes a tad bit more sense now

The Melty Man
01-01-2008, 04:46 AM
I completed a survey for iTunes ages ago, before iTunes Plus, and I told them I thought it was shit because it was full of DRM and had low quality audio (128 kbps). I also told them I was much more likely to go and buy a CD than buy music from the store. How that has changed since iTunes Plus arrived. I hate going to record stores. Balls to them though for not having any Radiohead, Beatles or Cold Chisel.

cork_soaker
01-01-2008, 04:47 AM
it's sort of a little of this and that with some other sounds and different takes on things and sounds

M.Night
01-01-2008, 04:54 AM
link please

loser2d
01-01-2008, 04:55 AM
link please

link to what?

You Said
01-01-2008, 04:59 AM
link please

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/browserRedirect?url=itms%253A%252F%252Fax.phobos.a pple.com.edgesuite.net%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore. woa%252Fwa%252FviewAlbum%253Fid%253D270617258%2526 s%253D143441

Ol' Couch Ass
01-01-2008, 05:08 AM
Fuck the baldie...I don't have ITunes so I'm not worthy of his new songs. FUUUUCK YOOOOOU.

Ol' Couch Ass
01-01-2008, 05:09 AM
To: Billy Corgan
re: A bag of dicks

Please eat it.

With you in Christ,
OCA

M.Night
01-01-2008, 05:52 AM
LEAK:

http://rapidshare.com/files/80430704/SP-AG.rar.html

DoomsdayRocket
01-01-2008, 05:53 AM
nice

MisterSquishyHalo
01-01-2008, 05:59 AM
bleh.



Please bring on the new tour.

darcyismybass
01-01-2008, 05:59 AM
Praise Jeebus! :)

darcyismybass
01-01-2008, 06:14 AM
What's with the first song? That doesn't sound like Jim on drums.

Ever
01-01-2008, 06:14 AM
Real and thanks

Spaldz
01-01-2008, 06:28 AM
That first song is awesome...Sounds like Billy's vocals are a bit more in line with the rest of the music.

Spaldz
01-01-2008, 06:30 AM
Pox is a lot like God & Country. I felt like he wanted to go into Winterlong at one point though.

darcyismybass
01-01-2008, 06:33 AM
How is it that the song with the shittiest name is the best one on this EP?

Future Boy
01-01-2008, 06:34 AM
only 25% is worth a shit. At least he's become consistent.

DoomsdayRocket
01-01-2008, 06:36 AM
best release of 2008, so far...

srt4b
01-01-2008, 06:36 AM
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1077869

MaryAnn272
01-01-2008, 06:45 AM
Rose March was beautiful, the rest sucked. :)

DoomsdayRocket
01-01-2008, 06:53 AM
well, i'm gonna pull my personality card and say:

i liked it...

stephen_bayne
01-01-2008, 06:54 AM
Thanks for link M. Night.

I quite liked it. The only song that didn't really do anything for me was The Crux.

Heat6Jones
01-01-2008, 07:04 AM
Anyone sharing?

I live in the US and have multiple credit cards, but I refuse to install Itunes onto my computer anymore.

EDIT: Nevermind :D

Bleakest Harves
01-01-2008, 07:22 AM
Thanls for sharing.

I really like this, but I refuse to buy it from Itunes, i'll buy it tomorrow at a shop instead :)

Wasabi
01-01-2008, 07:26 AM
again^3 is ... moderately tolerable.
I wish I knew with any degree of certainty that this was going to be 'in a shop' so I could get a hard-copy to compile further 'master-editions' of the zeitgeist monstrosity

Wasabi
01-01-2008, 07:35 AM
*headdesk*
son of a bitch billy, OPENING FUCKING CONSONANTS!?!!!!!

greedo
01-01-2008, 07:40 AM
I completed a survey for iTunes ages ago, before iTunes Plus, and I told them I thought it was shit because it was full of DRM and had low quality audio (128 kbps). I also told them I was much more likely to go and buy a CD than buy music from the store. How that has changed since iTunes Plus arrived. I hate going to record stores. Balls to them though for not having any Radiohead, Beatles or Cold Chisel.

It's not iTunes's fault they don't have those bands. Either the band or their label has refused to licence iTunes to sell the music.

Good work complaining about the DRM. It is horrible. It's also nice to have the higher bitrate, but 98% of people can't distinguish between 128kbps and CD quality, so the extra data doesn't noticable improve anything unless the listener is actively trying hard to spot a difference.

wilch
01-01-2008, 07:57 AM
*headdesk*
son of a bitch billy, OPENING FUCKING CONSONANTS!?!!!!!

ya this pisses me off to is it painful for him to make a harsh fucking consonant?

wilch
01-01-2008, 08:00 AM
and its a travesty to call it an acoustic EP

stipeman
01-01-2008, 08:04 AM
Could someone post a link for an MP3 of American Gothic? I can't download the RAR file link posted here. Thanks and happy new year

Skit
01-01-2008, 08:08 AM
Cheers for the link!
Downloading now :)

enthusaroo
01-01-2008, 08:12 AM
Thank you for the link!

Here is my list (from favorite to worst)
1. Rose March (best song) :)
2. Pox (good) :|
3. Sunkissed (might take a few listens) :|
4. Again, Again, Again (The Crux) (yuck!) :(

wilch
01-01-2008, 08:14 AM
again, again, again sounds like Times Like These by the Foo Fighters

Endar
01-01-2008, 08:19 AM
thx M.Night, not bad

Skit
01-01-2008, 08:23 AM
Im getting Zwan flashbacks from 'Again, Again, Again' and 'Sunkissed' :rofl:
I liked Zwan though so thats cool :)

Is it me, or do the drums in every song sound like they werent played by Jimmy? :think:

Not a bad EP, I'd prefare something like this over Zeitgeist :banging:

kingflupps
01-01-2008, 08:51 AM
Overall I like the e.p but just like Zeitgeist some of the songs have a choral billy bit that makes me cringe. The opening guitar to The Rose March is absolutely stunning and then...... "La la la la fucks sake!" Jimmy needs to have a word with him about this coz its getting out of control. The quality of The Rose March still washes this small annoyance away but like Zeitgeist its these small things that prevent true greatness. If they had recorded 'Sunkissed' like the song 'Zeitgeist' then it would be really beautiful but it has that galloping guitar hammer-on which is really hard to ignore. 'Pox' is strange, I can't decide if its just not a good song or its going to grow on me, fingers crossed its the later. Its too early to tell but hopefully A.G will be a grower, but hey its new pumpkins material and its not shite.

cardiac
01-01-2008, 09:04 AM
I'm having a hard time deciding if I like this or not. Once again the vocal production is fairly horrible and I'm not feeling the lyrics at all.

However..

- Electric guitars overall sound gorgeous here. Especially Again Again Again
- Rose March 3:40 forwards. Perfect reminder of why I love this band.
- Jimmy
- The darker feel in Pox. Nice bass there

I shall give this a few more listens. The first time around it sounded disappointing, but now once I'm past the vocals being what they are, I'm beginning to enjoy it.

somaziro
01-01-2008, 10:21 AM
this is horrible

somaziro
01-01-2008, 10:27 AM
seriously horrible

Mo
01-01-2008, 10:28 AM
oh dear.

duovamp
01-01-2008, 10:29 AM
In for the upload.

The Melty Man
01-01-2008, 10:34 AM
It's not iTunes's fault they don't have those bands. Either the band or their label has refused to licence iTunes to sell the music.

These are probably the same labels that complain that everyone illegally downloads their music.... all because they won't put it up for sale on iTunes.

BABY_i
01-01-2008, 10:41 AM
Thanks for the download, Sunkissed was corrupted - anybody else find this?

duovamp
01-01-2008, 10:52 AM
It seems like he had a decent starting point for these songs, recorded them with just an acoustic guitar, and then went over them and added way too much... They would've been nice if left simple. Especially [The] Rose March... :(

hnibos
01-01-2008, 10:54 AM
:( im falling out of love with this band.

sunkissed and again are such rubbish.

the mahatma
01-01-2008, 10:59 AM
fuck

fuck

chorus upon chorus of billys REMAINS.

why does he think that sounds good?

some of this is okay though, the end of rose march is beautiful

if pox was electric, it would be the best "rocker" they've released since the reunion.

anndrix
01-01-2008, 11:05 AM
I could commit myself to find something I like about this EP, but I think that my overall impression would remain: totally boring :/

You Said
01-01-2008, 11:15 AM
BILLY CORGAN IS A QUEER!

Sarcastic Smile
01-01-2008, 11:17 AM
eww..maybe i will warm up to it..i only listened to the previews because I want to order the actual cd...but at first listen im not into it at all. what is going on?. oh, im so sad.. what a bummer

cardiac
01-01-2008, 11:17 AM
I could commit myself to find something I like about this EP, but I think that my overall impression would remain: totally boring :/

You have the best avatar I've seen in a long time

You Said
01-01-2008, 11:18 AM
Besides the rose march I bet these are Djali Zwan songs.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 11:34 AM
LEAK:

http://rapidshare.com/files/80430704/SP-AG.rar.html

thanks a lot!

Rose March background vocals are bad.. i will get use to it, but i dont like it right now.. but it for the most part still sounds like what i heard at the Fillmore

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 11:39 AM
Again x3 reminds me of Zwan mixed w/ AoI

Pox sounds like nothing i have heard from SP

duovamp
01-01-2008, 11:40 AM
There's a huge Zwan vibe with it, but I didn't want to say anything...

DougieZero
01-01-2008, 11:41 AM
Why didn't he use Ginger or Lisa as additional vocals? Does the Itunes stuff have credits? I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Jimmy and Billy.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 11:42 AM
it is just billy and jimmy

TimeZoneChecker
01-01-2008, 11:43 AM
good ep. Anyone else thinks Sunkissed sounds great? sounds djali zwan, and i really like the production here, the production of rose march in contrast is quite bad i think, vocally, don't really like that song it's the least imo

Again again is very Zwan but has a good part at 2'58"

Again again 5/10
Rose MArch 5/10
POX 8/10
Sunkissed 10/10

DougieZero
01-01-2008, 11:46 AM
it is just billy and jimmy

Damn... They recorded in LA I think... I'm pretty sure Jeff, Lisa and Ginger were in the neighborhood.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 11:46 AM
I think that Sunkissed reminded me of that song from zwan "Heartsong"

POX was the only thing that kind of got me interested...

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 11:47 AM
Damn... They recorded in LA I think... I'm pretty sure Jeff, Lisa and Ginger were in the neighborhood.

most likely they don't want to add them yet to the record.. imho i don't think they will be added to the band name. unless their is a live release

You Said
01-01-2008, 11:50 AM
most likely they don't want to add them yet to the record.. imho i don't think they will be added to the band name. unless their is a live release

plus it means two more people that bill has to split the whole $4 with.

nofix
01-01-2008, 11:55 AM
The idea of this being an acoustic, studio recording led me to believe the tracks wouldn't be over-processed, and layered with vocal trackings. The songs aren't bad, but they're not exactly what I expected.

The Rose March is heavily processed, and doesn't hold a candle to the emotional, raw, simplistic residency version(s).

Pox does not sound like the Pumpkins, at all, other than the vocals. The tune reminds me Days of The New : Touch Peel Stand. Least favorite of the bunch.

Sunkissed has odd vocals, Zeitgiest vocals - if you will. Not a bad track, but nothing special here.

Again, Again, Again ... Again, Zeitgesit vocals ruin an otherwise decent sounding track.

Expectations weren't met. Oh well. Here's hoping for '08.

anndrix
01-01-2008, 11:55 AM
You have the best avatar I've seen in a long time

thanks!

Damn... They recorded in LA I think... I'm pretty sure Jeff, Lisa and Ginger were in the neighborhood.


American Gothic was produced by Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin, with one song co-produced by Roy Thomas Baker. The songs were recorded at the Pass Studio in Los Angeles, CA while the Pumpkins were on a break between their 2007 national tour and upcoming 2008 European tour.

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/news_2846

ryoga
01-01-2008, 11:59 AM
The Again, Again, Again song is also from the Pete Townshend gig. I wonder if all of them were written back in 2006.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 12:00 PM
i wouldn't doubt that most of these songs were written in 2006 and some how were kept.. either way this EP isn't the best thing from SP.

SP started on the wrong foot for 2008

atombomb
01-01-2008, 12:01 PM
The Again, Again, Again song is also from the Pete Townshend gig. I wonder if all of them were written back in 2006.

How do you know this?

ryoga
01-01-2008, 12:02 PM
from the lyrics

emotionalfriend
01-01-2008, 12:38 PM
either way this EP isn't the best thing from SP.


did you really expect it to be?

Shallow
01-01-2008, 12:56 PM
it would be cool, to have the lyrics

could someone figure them out pleaaase?:erm:

Olivier
01-01-2008, 12:58 PM
Or you could do it, god willing.

areyougaffney?
01-01-2008, 01:07 PM
so which one did RTB produce...the rose march I assume?

somaziro
01-01-2008, 01:12 PM
you want a real acoustic album for 2008, download that New Tour Songs 2007 acoustic compilation that was put together awhile back... that is waaaayyyyy >>>>>>>> than american gothshit

skipgo
01-01-2008, 01:14 PM
my comments last night were based on listening to previews on itunes. After downloading the full songs, i'm still disappointed. :(
i kind of like sunkissed, it's not bad. or should i say "ot ad". Fuck, billy, this aversion to consonants is completely maddening...
again, again, again i do not like; pox i like even less.
Rose March is a good song and this recording has its moments, but i'd rather listen to the live version.

seriously, what's with the consonants? I've never been more annoyed with bc than i am when i hear one of his many dropped consonants. I was hoping that this was just some weird quirk he'd picked up when singing live; i can't believe his brought this terrible new habit of his into the studio.

i'm pretty sure i'll only ever listen to half of this ep, and even that won't be very often.

Rickpat12
01-01-2008, 01:14 PM
I don't know. I think like a lot of SP's work, you NEVER know what you're gonna get. And I think musically, no one was expecting this, in that sense I think it's a bit original. Not groundbreaking original, but still I think it's kind of out there. I personally like it on first listen, but I won't love it until more. Overall not bad at all, nice work Billy. I think the vocals are great, he's singing with a lot more emotion than on Zeitgeist!

Electron52
01-01-2008, 01:18 PM
I like it, but the drums sound like shit on again again again. i like the songs. they need someone else to record the drums though. All in all, nice work SP! It's a nice change from the 'let's be as heavy as we can' stuff they have been doing lately.

skipgo
01-01-2008, 01:18 PM
i almost feel bad when i say something negative about new sp material. Like I'm one of "those people" who doesn't support them when they do something different. But man, I really WANTED to love this. Who knows; Machina finally got me, even if it took 7 years to do so. I've always loved their so-called "failure" Adore; and I like Zeitgeist pretty much as well. I've done my share of support, so I guess I shouldn't feel bad when I just don't like something. Billy's comments about fans who don't support them no matter what make me feel like i'm betraying a friend or something. Damn you Corgan, for making me feel guilty.

AnnMarie727
01-01-2008, 01:22 PM
i really like again again (i really like the energy in this song) and rose march. and sunkissed. pox isnt do anything for me right now

AnnMarie727
01-01-2008, 01:24 PM
i wouldnt feel bad skipgo. there are songs i dont really strike my fancy either but that doesn't change the way i feel about the band.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 01:31 PM
so i have been listening to these songs all day, and pox is still the only song that makes me say "hmm what is this?" the rest makes me feel like i am listening to Old Zwan era songs.
But the rose march is a mix of that and fillmore

somaziro
01-01-2008, 01:32 PM
I don't feel different about the band, except that I am very skeptical about anything that comes out of the studio from them.... The actual songs are good, the live version of Rose March, Pomp, God and Country, Starz are testament to that... They have just be sucking it in the studio with all their production wankery.

i_adore_adore
01-01-2008, 01:34 PM
I dunno what to think. I was so excited I was going to get an acoustic EP, and what do I get? This.

Okay, so I've only listened to the previews so far, but my God, Billy! WHY did he ruin "The Rose March" when I specifically said, "He better not ruin 'The Rose March'!"

I've just grown attached to the live version, I guess. I just wanted a high-quality version of what he played live at the residencies, not... whatever this is.

I guess I'll just buy the whole songs and see if they get better.

:(

Phoenix Down
01-01-2008, 01:34 PM
this EP is rubbish. fuck yourself billy corgan.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 01:35 PM
it hit me Sunkissed reminds me of "If All Goes Wrong"

atombomb
01-01-2008, 01:36 PM
I think the Rose march fits really well between ma Belle and for god and country, can't find a place for the others though...

atombomb
01-01-2008, 01:37 PM
yep - I thought sunkissed was if all goes wrong when i heard the opening chords. I like the track though second after rose march

Rickpat12
01-01-2008, 01:38 PM
I think Pox can be one of the best things they've done since returning to the music scene. It's dark and has an old vibe to it.

Corgan Rules
01-01-2008, 01:43 PM
I really like Again, again, again a lot! It is my favorite of the 4 new songs here. I know that these songs aren't Billys best but it's just nice to see them making new music. We will all be fine if Billy and Jimmy continue to make music. I like these new songs for what they are....mostly acoustic songs. Im happy hearing them but they did the right thing by not putting on their new LP whenever it does come out. Im sure that Billy and Jimmy both knew that this wasn't their best material but they wanted to get some acoustic stuff out there for fans.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 01:47 PM
So would it be right to assume now that this EP is out that Zeitgeist failed. 2 singles and out!

cardiac
01-01-2008, 01:50 PM
I actually really like the production apart from the backing vocals. Why on earth would he not use Lisa/Ginger for those? I'd rank this 8/10 if it weren't for the utter gayness that is Bill's current studio vocal overdubs

paranoid
01-01-2008, 01:51 PM
the non pronouncing of consonants drives me fucking mad too.. literaly i shout out "stop that!" everytime he does it.

WHY WHY WHY the FUCK has he started doing that? WHY? it is beyond annoying.

i_adore_adore
01-01-2008, 01:52 PM
So like, I'm ready to illegally download it now. But what's all this about an RAR file? I dunno what the heck to do with it.

Someone wanna help a sister out? Let me just tell you that I'm going to buy the physical CD when it's out, but I just want to hear the full songs. So don't give me your guilt trip, "It's only $4" bull. I'm gonna buy it. I just wanna download the songs right now.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 01:52 PM
Why on earth would he not use Lisa/Ginger for those?

isn't it obvious? He only wants to have d'arcy and james singing backup on sp songs

Duke
01-01-2008, 01:53 PM
I'm part of the minority here who thinks American Gothic is pretty good. As usual it wasn't what I was expecting, but I like it. I've gotten used to billy's backing vox so it doesn't strike me as odd as it did when I first heard zeitgeist. The Rose March is excellent.

MonteLDS
01-01-2008, 01:54 PM
i_adore_adore PM me for a zip

waltermcphilp
01-01-2008, 01:55 PM
So like, I'm ready to illegally download it now. But what's all this about an RAR file? I dunno what the heck to do with it.

Someone wanna help a sister out? Let me just tell you that I'm going to buy the physical CD when it's out, but I just want to hear the full songs. So don't give me your guilt trip, "It's only $4" bull. I'm gonna buy it. I just wanna download the songs right now.

download winrar. install it. when you get a .rar file you can open it and winrar will uncompress it for you

dudehitscar
01-01-2008, 02:03 PM
first listen is thoughts

I like it but it didn't blow me away.

Listen more later.