http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=270617258&s=143441

as part of the deluxe Zeitgeist. I guess the 'stand alone' version will be up soon. :)

There's a torrent of it on mininova as well... no seeds though, it's abandoned or something.

awesome

Love it

i figured it was about time to give some hard earned dollars to billy. there is something so instant and satisfying about itunes.

edit: sounds like they got the production right

la la la la la la la la la lal al la lal al

:/

i like again, again, again a lot

la la la la la la la la la lal al la lal al

:/

whatever.. you're anxiously anticipating the all vocal album as we all are

RoseMarch is beautiful! lalaladada... =)!

whatever.. you're anxiously anticipating the all vocal album as we all are

have only listened to one song so far, but at least he's doing a better job of faking that he gives a crap about what he's singing


which i guess isn't saying all that much

:)

c - ant help

t - night


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sunkissed :)

this sucks.

yousendit? Can anyone post a link?


http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=270617258&s=143441

as part of the deluxe Zeitgeist. I guess the 'stand alone' version will be up soon. :)

it's three dollars and ninety six cents. though maybe that was their plan all along?

edit: full of black hole and anniversary nights...? wait now I'm confused.

Where is the individual version?!

Should I just buy each song from the deluxe version?

this sucks.

agreed. :(

not the usual pumpkins acoustic sound. i should've guessed.
i guess i'll give it time though.

I don't have a valid credit card at the moment. Anyone feel like being nice and posting some links??

it's three dollars and ninety six cents. though maybe that was their plan all along?

I don't have a valid credit card at the moment. Anyone feel like being nice and posting some links??

it fucking rocks!!! you're totally missing out

Rocks isn't quite the word. It's quite... folky?

Of course, there are no Lisa/Ginger backing vocals, but Bill making stupid noises.

Rocks isn't quite the word. It's quite... folky?

put up your dukes

Yeah, this is...ok. Just OK. The residency songs were far better.

And POX is pretty fucking lame. I was hoping it would be Peace and Love.

i really wanted to like this.

i didn't like DFA the first few times I heard it, and now it's one of my favorites of the newer songs, so maybe i'll change my mind at some point.
As for the Rose March, i much prefer the live version, but maybe just because it's what i'm used to hearing.

I prefer the simplicity of the tonight tonight b-sides when it comes to acoustic pumpkins.

i really wanted to like this.

i didn't like DFA the first few times I heard it, and now it's one of my favorites of the newer songs, so maybe i'll change my mind at some point.
As for the Rose March, i much prefer the live version, but maybe just because it's what i'm used to hearing.

I prefer the simplicity of the tonight tonight b-sides when it comes to acoustic pumpkins.

I agree with all of this. It sounds too...busy. With the Residency songs and the old acoustics, it really sounded like it was just Billy and his guitar. This sounds like there is too much going on.

Can someone upload these, please?! I will give head, virtually. :banging:

Well, I just finished listening to it. That was highly disappointing all around. In fact, I liked Zeitgeist better than that.

*Goes back to listening to the Residency Songs compilation from thepumpkins.net*

*Goes back to listening to the Residency Songs compilation from thepumpkins.net*

this is a good plan.
i agree, it sounds too busy.

Yeah can anyone throw a download up? It's not out in Australia yet.

will anyone share?

its out jan 2ed
and already a backlash...

you beat us all to it BurtSampson ;)


is there a way i can get thepumpkins.net to upload my better version of the residency comp?
the one they are sharing is an mp3 transcode.... (I know, i put it together...)

I just listened to the samples from Itunes and the songs really are too busy and a huge disappointment. Why could they have not been raw and not so... its just sad to see the band going down. To pumpkins.net it is.

Will somebody please share? :(

No credit card right now and no access to iTunes. :( :(

Don't hold your breath.

you are so missing out... it's spacey, breathy, heavy, gritty, soft, beautiful, empty, scattered, focused, dramatic, hilarious and gothic


who doesnt have some form of credit card anyway? no american I know

edit: I for one am happy they aren't repeating themselves. How many versions of 1979 do you need?

you are so missing out... it's spacey, breathy, heavy, gritty, soft, beautiful, empty, scattered, focused, dramatic, hilarious and gothic


It's gay.

don't forget hilarious

Can someone fucking upload it?

Whats gay is Icky Thump and the shit known as the White Stripes.

Can someone fucking upload it?

posts/username

Can someone fucking upload it?

Whats gay is Icky Thump and the shit known as the White Stripes.

oop. I was gonna upload it till you put down jack white.

he deserves to be put down. What the fuck is he on? My 2 yr old brother plays better/more interesting music simply strumming/banging on my guitar.

i'll second(or third) the request for upload.

plus i like the white stripes

you are so missing out... it's spacey, breathy, heavy, gritty, soft, beautiful, empty, scattered, focused, dramatic, hilarious and gothic


who doesnt have some form of credit card anyway? no american I know

edit: I for one am happy they aren't repeating themselves. How many versions of 1979 do you need?

I'm working in China right now. No access to iTunes. :mad:

Can someone please throw a download up?

oop. I was gonna upload it till you put down jack white.

as was I.

fuckers.

fuckers.

*Cue intro to Marquis in Spades*

Here you go: <a href="http://www.lemonparty.org/">http://rapidshare.com/files/68510989/Smashing_Pumpkins_Gothic_2007.rar</a>

that's original.

danke

Here you go: <a href="http://www.lemonparty.org/">http://rapidshare.com/files/68510989/Smashing_Pumpkins_Gothic_2007.rar</a>

porous

danke

:2thumbsup


oh, and i'd up it for you, but i just listened to the previews on itunes. i didn't like the sound at all, and i doubt i'll buy them. I don't know, maybe I'll get the import just to have it, but i won't be buying it from itunes.

Seriously Waiting, it's 4 fucking dollars. Either man up and pay for it or torrent it. Quit being a little bitch.

are you asking a person to convert the apple shit and then upload it? thats a lot of work

http://rapidshare.com/files/80441731/Zeitgeist.rar.html

.....

Seriously Waiting, it's 4 fucking dollars. Either man up and pay for it or torrent it. Quit being a little bitch.

It's not a matter of money. I'm quite sure everyone requesting it in this thread are either A) Not in the U.S, or B) Don't have a valid credit card. I'd like to listen to it and if it's good then purchase it when it becomes available just like I do with all new music.

It's still the holiday season, so I thought that someone would have the heart to give Netphorians the chance to download it. Anyone who puts it up to download would be a hero on here (for at least a few days ;)).

http://rapidshare.com/files/80441731/Zeitgeist.rar.html

http://www.jakesjokes.com/gallery/albums/funnypics_weird/normal_274-dork.jpg

http://rapidshare.com/files/80441731/Zeitgeist.rar.html

They're DRM'ed.

Thanks anyways though

It's not a matter of money. I'm quite sure everyone requesting it in this thread are either A) Not in the U.S, or B) Don't have a valid credit card. I'd like to listen to it and if it's good then purchase it when it becomes available just like I do with all new music.

It's still the holiday season, so I thought that someone would have the heart to give Netphorians the chance to download it. Anyone who puts it up to download would be a hero on here (for at least a few days ;)).


Still no excuse for the constant annoying begging.

i bought them and they aren't too bad, even good i would say. theres parts of them that sound great and interesting and then there are some parts that seem so bland i can't even believe it. he also ruined my favorite part of Rose March (the "i'll lay roses at your feet" part towards the end) but so far its been mostly a pleasurable experience to hear these songs. the crux sounds like a zwan song (a good one, that is) and pox just came on and i like it so far. I think it's worth the four bucks to anyone who seems on the fence about them, but thats just my opinion.


pox is pretty awesome, it's got a darker 90's feel to it. "Every angel sleeps somewhere/sometimes" (i believe he changes the last word in the song towards the end)

sunkissed is pretty ho hum and sing-songy, the Pomp and Circumstances of this EP for sure. i think i need to give it another listen when im more awake

<i>upload it</i>

i bought them and they aren't too bad, even good i would say. theres parts of them that sound great and interesting and then there are some parts that seem so bland i can't even believe it. he also ruined my favorite part of Rose March (the "i'll lay roses at your feet" part towards the end) but so far its been mostly a pleasurable experience to hear these songs. the crux sounds like a zwan song (a good one, that is) and pox just came on and i like it so far. I think it's worth the four bucks to anyone who seems on the fence about them, but thats just my opinion.

i don't have the software to convert them and im about to go to sleep. it's 3 AM here. if someone doesn't upload them by tomorrow i'll see what i can do. sorry, frankie.

as was I.



same here

3 pages and not one upload yet

you guys suck ass at spreading shit


if i had it i would've upped it to every site imaginable and posted it in the first post of this stupid thread

this begs the question of why don't you have it?

3 pages and not one upload yet

you guys suck ass at spreading shit


if i had it i would've upped it to every site imaginable and posted it in the first post of this stupid thread

and then... judge judy

I don't have it because I refuse to pay for drm music.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't share it if I had it.
The file is probably under 25 mb's it would take less than 10 minutes to upload.

This thing has been available on itunes for a good 3 hours now and plenty of people here have it so I don't see why no one is sharing.

i haven't uploaded it yet because i refuse to pay for your drm free music.

I don't have it because I refuse to pay for drm music.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't share it if I had it.
The file is probably under 25 mb's it would take less than 10 minutes to upload.

This thing has been available on itunes for a good 3 hours now and plenty of people here have it so I don't see why no one is sharing.

it's 16.5m with apple compression

Anyone else think Age of Innocence at the beginning of Again Again Again?

Anyone else think Age of Innocence at the beginning of Again Again Again?

no more than the rim shots of tonight tonight

Anyone else think Age of Innocence at the beginning of Again Again Again?

i didn't but i def hear the similarity in the drum beat now that you mention it. It's a pretty standard beat though, soooo..

I hope that all of you choke on your breakfast. Goodnight.

I hope that all of you choke on your breakfast. Goodnight.

rose march and pox are the best. how do I go about converting them for you?

such animosity over four bucks worth of songs.

what is the point of hoarding them when you can very easily share them with the rest of the community?

idk, I don't mean to sound like a dick but I just got home from a party and honestly the first thing on my mind was to come here and hear the new ep.


i don't get why people are not sharing when it would take less than 10 minutes of your time.

The more important issue is that I have $1.05 left on my iTunes gift card. What should I buy from the B-Sides and Rarities collection? I'm thinking either Infinite Sadness or Never Let Me Down Again.

what is the point of hoarding them when you can very easily share them with the rest of the community?

idk, I don't mean to sound like a dick but I just got home from a party and honestly the first thing on my mind was to come here and hear the new ep.


i just don't get why people are not sharing the wealth when it would take less than 10 minutes of your time.

personally I believe it's one thing to burn the (free) aol sessions and upload them to high heaven but to purchase, convert, and upload itunes tracks is something else entirely. Im not really looking forward to a subpoena

The more important issue is that I have $1.05 left on my iTunes gift card. What should I buy from the B-Sides and Rarities collection? I'm thinking either Infinite Sadness or Never Let Me Down Again.

never let me down loses it's amazingness after 100 listens. it just doesnt stand the test of time

So I'm seriously going to have to wait til tomorrow to here this then?

Whatev, time to watch the Twilight Zone marathon.

never let me down loses it's amazingness after 100 listens. it just doesnt stand the test of time

Hmm, I guess Infinite Sadness it is then. This way, I can finally listen to MCIS with the full vinyl tracklisting.

Hmm, I guess Infinite Sadness it is then. This way, I can finally listen to MCIS with the full vinyl tracklisting.

id go with pox from american gothic but who knows, we may not be into the same shit

Poop

I'll have the non-DRM version of these tracks up in a little bit. I'm converting now...

rebel

edit: I expect a full review from Waiting.

what is the point of hoarding them when you can very easily share them with the rest of the community?

idk, I don't mean to sound like a dick but I just got home from a party and honestly the first thing on my mind was to come here and hear the new ep.


i don't get why people are not sharing when it would take less than 10 minutes of your time.

no one is hoarding fuckwit, it's there waiting for you.

you'd think you would atleast give that bald faggot atleast $4 I mean he's selling his signature to make money now.

I'll have the non-DRM version of these tracks up in a little bit. I'm converting now...

thanks bud

at least someone around here is not a complete asshole

you'd think you would atleast give that bald faggot atleast $4 I mean he's selling his signature to make money now. )

Next time can we get the chicks to do backups?

dang
all this excitement on new years

ah great episode of the twlight zone on right now

i'm going to keep talking about the twilight zone till i get the ep

really
im watching tila online

The episode on right now is called "Five Characters In Search of An Exit".

"shell shocked and half cocked" :erm:

It's from the 3rd season.

This is the plot synopsis:
an army major awakens in a small room with no idea of who he is or how he got there. He finds four other people in the same room, and they all begin to question how they each arrived there, and more importantly, how to escape.

looks like 2008 is going to be full of hoarders and cheapskates haha

I remember that in 7th grade I had this awesome math teacher that all we had to do was mention the twilight zone and he would go off track for a good 30 minutes talking about random episodes.

yeah hoarders and cheapskates and pretty much the shittiest community ever, it's a shame it's the largest most active one, or I definitely would not be here.

same here
only mine talks about rhode island currently

yeah so my math teacher from 7th grade, this was one of his favorite episodes.

the capital of rhode island is providence.

good job
you get a gold star

the state was named after a greek island called Rhodes.


funny story about Rhodes, I was there a few years ago.

beautiful island, lots of very good looking people and architecture.

another really good episode that my math teach always talked about was "To Serve Man"

he loved that one.

it's a shame he's dead now, he was a very cool guy

cancer fucking sucks

hahaha
my teacher has a mail order bride from korea
she wears all white with a white umbrella and reads near a dumpster at a park

it'd be nice if someone uploaded this now

i was madly in love with this korean chick in 10th grade.

she's a huge slut now.




i should call her.

you should stfu

"Humpbacked and Sugar shacked" :erm:

not until someone uploads this fucking shitty ass $4 EP that they are hoarding

cuz they're douchebags

fine... shit



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hmm my favorite twilight zone episode is probably The Midnight Sun.

i <3 scott walker!
you made my day

yeah scott walker is awful


the drift is quite possibly the worst thing I have ever subjected myself to








worse than minutes to midnight

hmm my favorite twilight zone episode is probably The Midnight Sun.


http://static.flickr.com/79/261457181_83009a8652_o.jpg

yeah scott walker is awful


the drift is quite possibly the worst thing I have ever subjected myself to

worse than minutes to midnight

I love 30 Century Man

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lol

At least I don't hoard EP's of bands way past their prime at 4 in the morning on new years day.

At least I don't hoard EP's of bands way past their prime at 4 in the morning on new years day.

what's the opposite of that?

what's the opposite of that?

be a cheapskate and not buying it yourself

this:
http://www.ivygateblog.com/images/HOWYALIKEMENOW500.jpg

be a cheapskate and not buying it yourself

... and bitch about it

oop. men seeking men just arrived. night folks

this:
http://www.ivygateblog.com/images/HOWYALIKEMENOW500.jpg

a faggot?

There's an issue with converting.

Someone who's downloaded these songs to their iTunes... all you need to do is download this program: http://hymn-project.org/download.php

And then you can convert from the DRM .m4p format to .mp3. Sorry guys. I tried. But I don't have the right permissions under iTunes to convert these files. So a person who actually downloaded the songs will need to do the conversion. Doh!

i could honestly convert these things in seriously less than 1 minute if somebody sent me the fucking files already

share for the love of god. start the new year on a good note

oop. men seeking men just arrived. night folks

damn
you gave me good lulz tonight

The program is called myFairTunes

it's good; i like it.

cool man, you should share it

it sucks; i hate it

cool man, you should share it

At least I don't hoard EP's of bands way past their prime at 4 in the morning on new years day.

gossamer

frankenstein

my friend, share the wealth

itunes

frankenstein
what happened to men seeking men?
lol

itunes is shit

frankenstein
what happened to men seeking men?
lol

stop trying to love me

this is cute

stop trying to love me

lol
damn
this is better than my drunk relatives
lol

this is cute

is everything cute to you?

it's a little gay; it's a little optimistic

sort of like billy





makes sense i guess

oh ok
makes a tad bit more sense now

I completed a survey for iTunes ages ago, before iTunes Plus, and I told them I thought it was shit because it was full of DRM and had low quality audio (128 kbps). I also told them I was much more likely to go and buy a CD than buy music from the store. How that has changed since iTunes Plus arrived. I hate going to record stores. Balls to them though for not having any Radiohead, Beatles or Cold Chisel.

it's sort of a little of this and that with some other sounds and different takes on things and sounds

link please

link please

link to what?

link please

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/browserRedirect?url=itms%253A%252F%252Fax.phobos.a pple.com.edgesuite.net%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore. woa%252Fwa%252FviewAlbum%253Fid%253D270617258%2526 s%253D143441

Fuck the baldie...I don't have ITunes so I'm not worthy of his new songs. FUUUUCK YOOOOOU.

To: Billy Corgan
re: A bag of dicks

Please eat it.

With you in Christ,
OCA

LEAK:

http://rapidshare.com/files/80430704/SP-AG.rar.html

nice

bleh.



Please bring on the new tour.

Praise Jeebus! :)

nice. thanks for sharing m.night

What's with the first song? That doesn't sound like Jim on drums.

Real and thanks

That first song is awesome...Sounds like Billy's vocals are a bit more in line with the rest of the music.

Pox is a lot like God & Country. I felt like he wanted to go into Winterlong at one point though.

How is it that the song with the shittiest name is the best one on this EP?

only 25% is worth a shit. At least he's become consistent.

best release of 2008, so far...

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1077869

Rose March was beautiful, the rest sucked. :)

well, i'm gonna pull my personality card and say:

i liked it...

Thanks for link M. Night.

I quite liked it. The only song that didn't really do anything for me was The Crux.

Anyone sharing?

I live in the US and have multiple credit cards, but I refuse to install Itunes onto my computer anymore.

EDIT: Nevermind :D

Thanls for sharing.

I really like this, but I refuse to buy it from Itunes, i'll buy it tomorrow at a shop instead :)

again^3 is ... moderately tolerable.
I wish I knew with any degree of certainty that this was going to be 'in a shop' so I could get a hard-copy to compile further 'master-editions' of the zeitgeist monstrosity

*headdesk*
son of a bitch billy, OPENING FUCKING CONSONANTS!?!!!!!

I completed a survey for iTunes ages ago, before iTunes Plus, and I told them I thought it was shit because it was full of DRM and had low quality audio (128 kbps). I also told them I was much more likely to go and buy a CD than buy music from the store. How that has changed since iTunes Plus arrived. I hate going to record stores. Balls to them though for not having any Radiohead, Beatles or Cold Chisel.

It's not iTunes's fault they don't have those bands. Either the band or their label has refused to licence iTunes to sell the music.

Good work complaining about the DRM. It is horrible. It's also nice to have the higher bitrate, but 98% of people can't distinguish between 128kbps and CD quality, so the extra data doesn't noticable improve anything unless the listener is actively trying hard to spot a difference.

*headdesk*
son of a bitch billy, OPENING FUCKING CONSONANTS!?!!!!!

ya this pisses me off to is it painful for him to make a harsh fucking consonant?

and its a travesty to call it an acoustic EP

Could someone post a link for an MP3 of American Gothic? I can't download the RAR file link posted here. Thanks and happy new year

Cheers for the link!
Downloading now :)

Thank you for the link!

Here is my list (from favorite to worst)
1. Rose March (best song) :)
2. Pox (good) :|
3. Sunkissed (might take a few listens) :|
4. Again, Again, Again (The Crux) (yuck!) :(

again, again, again sounds like Times Like These by the Foo Fighters

thx M.Night, not bad

Im getting Zwan flashbacks from 'Again, Again, Again' and 'Sunkissed' :rofl:
I liked Zwan though so thats cool :)

Is it me, or do the drums in every song sound like they werent played by Jimmy? :think:

Not a bad EP, I'd prefare something like this over Zeitgeist :banging:

Overall I like the e.p but just like Zeitgeist some of the songs have a choral billy bit that makes me cringe. The opening guitar to The Rose March is absolutely stunning and then...... "La la la la fucks sake!" Jimmy needs to have a word with him about this coz its getting out of control. The quality of The Rose March still washes this small annoyance away but like Zeitgeist its these small things that prevent true greatness. If they had recorded 'Sunkissed' like the song 'Zeitgeist' then it would be really beautiful but it has that galloping guitar hammer-on which is really hard to ignore. 'Pox' is strange, I can't decide if its just not a good song or its going to grow on me, fingers crossed its the later. Its too early to tell but hopefully A.G will be a grower, but hey its new pumpkins material and its not shite.

I'm having a hard time deciding if I like this or not. Once again the vocal production is fairly horrible and I'm not feeling the lyrics at all.

However..

- Electric guitars overall sound gorgeous here. Especially Again Again Again
- Rose March 3:40 forwards. Perfect reminder of why I love this band.
- Jimmy
- The darker feel in Pox. Nice bass there

I shall give this a few more listens. The first time around it sounded disappointing, but now once I'm past the vocals being what they are, I'm beginning to enjoy it.

this is horrible

seriously horrible

oh dear.

In for the upload.

It's not iTunes's fault they don't have those bands. Either the band or their label has refused to licence iTunes to sell the music.

These are probably the same labels that complain that everyone illegally downloads their music.... all because they won't put it up for sale on iTunes.

Thanks for the download, Sunkissed was corrupted - anybody else find this?

It seems like he had a decent starting point for these songs, recorded them with just an acoustic guitar, and then went over them and added way too much... They would've been nice if left simple. Especially [The] Rose March... :(

:( im falling out of love with this band.

sunkissed and again are such rubbish.

fuck

fuck

chorus upon chorus of billys REMAINS.

why does he think that sounds good?

some of this is okay though, the end of rose march is beautiful

if pox was electric, it would be the best "rocker" they've released since the reunion.

I could commit myself to find something I like about this EP, but I think that my overall impression would remain: totally boring :/

BILLY CORGAN IS A QUEER!

eww..maybe i will warm up to it..i only listened to the previews because I want to order the actual cd...but at first listen im not into it at all. what is going on?. oh, im so sad.. what a bummer

I could commit myself to find something I like about this EP, but I think that my overall impression would remain: totally boring :/

You have the best avatar I've seen in a long time

Besides the rose march I bet these are Djali Zwan songs.

LEAK:

http://rapidshare.com/files/80430704/SP-AG.rar.html

thanks a lot!

Rose March background vocals are bad.. i will get use to it, but i dont like it right now.. but it for the most part still sounds like what i heard at the Fillmore

Again x3 reminds me of Zwan mixed w/ AoI

Pox sounds like nothing i have heard from SP

There's a huge Zwan vibe with it, but I didn't want to say anything...

Why didn't he use Ginger or Lisa as additional vocals? Does the Itunes stuff have credits? I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Jimmy and Billy.

it is just billy and jimmy

good ep. Anyone else thinks Sunkissed sounds great? sounds djali zwan, and i really like the production here, the production of rose march in contrast is quite bad i think, vocally, don't really like that song it's the least imo

Again again is very Zwan but has a good part at 2'58"

Again again 5/10
Rose MArch 5/10
POX 8/10
Sunkissed 10/10

it is just billy and jimmy

Damn... They recorded in LA I think... I'm pretty sure Jeff, Lisa and Ginger were in the neighborhood.

I think that Sunkissed reminded me of that song from zwan "Heartsong"

POX was the only thing that kind of got me interested...

Damn... They recorded in LA I think... I'm pretty sure Jeff, Lisa and Ginger were in the neighborhood.

most likely they don't want to add them yet to the record.. imho i don't think they will be added to the band name. unless their is a live release

most likely they don't want to add them yet to the record.. imho i don't think they will be added to the band name. unless their is a live release

plus it means two more people that bill has to split the whole $4 with.

The idea of this being an acoustic, studio recording led me to believe the tracks wouldn't be over-processed, and layered with vocal trackings. The songs aren't bad, but they're not exactly what I expected.

The Rose March is heavily processed, and doesn't hold a candle to the emotional, raw, simplistic residency version(s).

Pox does not sound like the Pumpkins, at all, other than the vocals. The tune reminds me Days of The New : Touch Peel Stand. Least favorite of the bunch.

Sunkissed has odd vocals, Zeitgiest vocals - if you will. Not a bad track, but nothing special here.

Again, Again, Again ... Again, Zeitgesit vocals ruin an otherwise decent sounding track.

Expectations weren't met. Oh well. Here's hoping for '08.

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Damn... They recorded in LA I think... I'm pretty sure Jeff, Lisa and Ginger were in the neighborhood.


American Gothic was produced by Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin, with one song co-produced by Roy Thomas Baker. The songs were recorded at the Pass Studio in Los Angeles, CA while the Pumpkins were on a break between their 2007 national tour and upcoming 2008 European tour.

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/news_2846

The Again, Again, Again song is also from the Pete Townshend gig. I wonder if all of them were written back in 2006.

i wouldn't doubt that most of these songs were written in 2006 and some how were kept.. either way this EP isn't the best thing from SP.

SP started on the wrong foot for 2008

The Again, Again, Again song is also from the Pete Townshend gig. I wonder if all of them were written back in 2006.

How do you know this?

from the lyrics

either way this EP isn't the best thing from SP.


did you really expect it to be?

it would be cool, to have the lyrics

could someone figure them out pleaaase?:erm:

Or you could do it, god willing.

so which one did RTB produce...the rose march I assume?

you want a real acoustic album for 2008, download that New Tour Songs 2007 acoustic compilation that was put together awhile back... that is waaaayyyyy >>>>>>>> than american gothshit

my comments last night were based on listening to previews on itunes. After downloading the full songs, i'm still disappointed. :(
i kind of like sunkissed, it's not bad. or should i say "ot ad". Fuck, billy, this aversion to consonants is completely maddening...
again, again, again i do not like; pox i like even less.
Rose March is a good song and this recording has its moments, but i'd rather listen to the live version.

seriously, what's with the consonants? I've never been more annoyed with bc than i am when i hear one of his many dropped consonants. I was hoping that this was just some weird quirk he'd picked up when singing live; i can't believe his brought this terrible new habit of his into the studio.

i'm pretty sure i'll only ever listen to half of this ep, and even that won't be very often.

I don't know. I think like a lot of SP's work, you NEVER know what you're gonna get. And I think musically, no one was expecting this, in that sense I think it's a bit original. Not groundbreaking original, but still I think it's kind of out there. I personally like it on first listen, but I won't love it until more. Overall not bad at all, nice work Billy. I think the vocals are great, he's singing with a lot more emotion than on Zeitgeist!

I like it, but the drums sound like shit on again again again. i like the songs. they need someone else to record the drums though. All in all, nice work SP! It's a nice change from the 'let's be as heavy as we can' stuff they have been doing lately.

i almost feel bad when i say something negative about new sp material. Like I'm one of "those people" who doesn't support them when they do something different. But man, I really WANTED to love this. Who knows; Machina finally got me, even if it took 7 years to do so. I've always loved their so-called "failure" Adore; and I like Zeitgeist pretty much as well. I've done my share of support, so I guess I shouldn't feel bad when I just don't like something. Billy's comments about fans who don't support them no matter what make me feel like i'm betraying a friend or something. Damn you Corgan, for making me feel guilty.

i really like again again (i really like the energy in this song) and rose march. and sunkissed. pox isnt do anything for me right now

i wouldnt feel bad skipgo. there are songs i dont really strike my fancy either but that doesn't change the way i feel about the band.

so i have been listening to these songs all day, and pox is still the only song that makes me say "hmm what is this?" the rest makes me feel like i am listening to Old Zwan era songs.
But the rose march is a mix of that and fillmore

I don't feel different about the band, except that I am very skeptical about anything that comes out of the studio from them.... The actual songs are good, the live version of Rose March, Pomp, God and Country, Starz are testament to that... They have just be sucking it in the studio with all their production wankery.

I dunno what to think. I was so excited I was going to get an acoustic EP, and what do I get? This.

Okay, so I've only listened to the previews so far, but my God, Billy! WHY did he ruin "The Rose March" when I specifically said, "He better not ruin 'The Rose March'!"

I've just grown attached to the live version, I guess. I just wanted a high-quality version of what he played live at the residencies, not... whatever this is.

I guess I'll just buy the whole songs and see if they get better.

:(

this EP is rubbish. fuck yourself billy corgan.

it hit me Sunkissed reminds me of "If All Goes Wrong"

I think the Rose march fits really well between ma Belle and for god and country, can't find a place for the others though...

yep - I thought sunkissed was if all goes wrong when i heard the opening chords. I like the track though second after rose march

I think Pox can be one of the best things they've done since returning to the music scene. It's dark and has an old vibe to it.

I really like Again, again, again a lot! It is my favorite of the 4 new songs here. I know that these songs aren't Billys best but it's just nice to see them making new music. We will all be fine if Billy and Jimmy continue to make music. I like these new songs for what they are....mostly acoustic songs. Im happy hearing them but they did the right thing by not putting on their new LP whenever it does come out. Im sure that Billy and Jimmy both knew that this wasn't their best material but they wanted to get some acoustic stuff out there for fans.

So would it be right to assume now that this EP is out that Zeitgeist failed. 2 singles and out!

I actually really like the production apart from the backing vocals. Why on earth would he not use Lisa/Ginger for those? I'd rank this 8/10 if it weren't for the utter gayness that is Bill's current studio vocal overdubs

the non pronouncing of consonants drives me fucking mad too.. literaly i shout out "stop that!" everytime he does it.

WHY WHY WHY the FUCK has he started doing that? WHY? it is beyond annoying.

So like, I'm ready to illegally download it now. But what's all this about an RAR file? I dunno what the heck to do with it.

Someone wanna help a sister out? Let me just tell you that I'm going to buy the physical CD when it's out, but I just want to hear the full songs. So don't give me your guilt trip, "It's only $4" bull. I'm gonna buy it. I just wanna download the songs right now.

Why on earth would he not use Lisa/Ginger for those?

isn't it obvious? He only wants to have d'arcy and james singing backup on sp songs

I'm part of the minority here who thinks American Gothic is pretty good. As usual it wasn't what I was expecting, but I like it. I've gotten used to billy's backing vox so it doesn't strike me as odd as it did when I first heard zeitgeist. The Rose March is excellent.

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So like, I'm ready to illegally download it now. But what's all this about an RAR file? I dunno what the heck to do with it.

Someone wanna help a sister out? Let me just tell you that I'm going to buy the physical CD when it's out, but I just want to hear the full songs. So don't give me your guilt trip, "It's only $4" bull. I'm gonna buy it. I just wanna download the songs right now.

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