Certainly there are those songs that elicit emotion, but what about those songs which bring about strong visual imagery. And when I say visual imagery, I dont mean thinking about the music video or the band itself, but schemas that our mind makes up itself- our own unique mental picture/movie of the song. My visual imagery is usually based more on ficticious fantasy, not actual memories. For instance, when I listen to songs like BWBW, Today, and Cherub Rock I get an emotional feel, but I don't really create my own strong visual imagery. But, I just listened to My Blue Heaven from the 33 singles disc, and it never fails- EVERY time, ever since the first time I heard this song (and I've been listening to it for a dozen years) immediately I get the same strong visual imagery every time. The imagery to this song involves me being old, very old, and watching grandchildren play alongside their grandmother with sun shining through the window. I'm only 21, sans children, so its not like this is sparked by current events. Keep in mind, I really don't have to think about it this imagery, it just comes effortlessly, and it has since the first time I listened to this song. I'm sure we could all ponder up visual imagery to all pumpkins songs if we sat down and thought about it, but does anyone else get that immediate, strong imagination to a song, or am I just rambling...probably both.

P.S.- This also happens when I listen to "Home" and "Whir" "Stumbeline" "Here is no Why" and Billy Joel's "Piano Man" is one of the other few songs that gives me strong visual imagery, and I'm really not a big Billy Joel fan.

everytime i hear 17, i imagine i'm sitting on a giant black dildo and getting face fucked by like 20 mexicans at once

everytime i hear 17, i imagine i'm sitting on a giant black dildo and getting face fucked by like 20 mexicans at once

17 mexicans is all you really need

well played

Ba-ZOOM!

well played
but not really

I think I can relate to what you've brought up about the visual imagery. Many people I talk to relate to songs in terms of how they evoke vivid memories of some kind...especially emotionally significant ones. (Although this is perhaps because they are much older adults reflecting on a specific place and time where they first heard the song, not the actual song itself.) However, I often associated Pumpkins songs with this kind of very abstract, comepletely non-thematic imagery...almost more of a feeling than specific imagery itself, like a party in the temporal lobes or something. It was definitely most intensely associative when I was a teenager, though...unfortunately that kind of nearly synthenesia-like intensity has died down with age. :( (Maybe I need some drUgz, LOL.)

I think I can relate to what you've brought up about the visual imagery. Many people I talk to relate to songs in terms of how they evoke vivid memories of some kind...especially emotionally significant ones. (Although this is perhaps because they are much older adults reflecting on a specific place and time where they first heard the song, not the actual song itself.) However, I often associated Pumpkins songs with this kind of very abstract, comepletely non-thematic imagery...almost more of a feeling than specific imagery itself, like a party in the temporal lobes or something. It was definitely most intensely associative when I was a teenager, though...unfortunately that kind of nearly synthenesia-like intensity has died down with age. :( (Maybe I need some drUgz, LOL.)

well put.
the nostalgia i feel when listening to pumpkins is mostly due to the "non-thematic imagery" you mentioned. it's an excitement, an electricity/energy i felt as a teenager. sadly, that feeling has been in hibernation for years, though for some strange reason it's been coming back very strongly as of recent. maybe it's the weather, or something like that. i do have a few very distinct "emotionally significant" memories of events in my life during which sp/sp's music has played a major role, though they occurred during the same time i felt that perpetual "energy". probably my strongest memories since i was a (little) kid, and also without a doubt, the best.

My Blue Heaven probably reminds you of old people because it was written in 1927. Maybe the ghost of the man who penned it is haunting your thoughts, waiting for your brain to interpret the song properly.

everytime i hear 17, i imagine i'm sitting on a giant black dildo and getting face fucked by like 20 mexicans at once
yep ive heard that mexicans do the best face fucking

My Blue Heaven probably reminds you of old people because it was written in 1927. Maybe the ghost of the man who penned it is haunting your thoughts, waiting for your brain to interpret the song properly.
Not really...it just reminds me of that sepia-colored picture of early MCIS era Billy Corgan sitting at that grand piano in his big, old Victorian home. :)