can someone share this with me?

i'm a nice guy. :)


via torrent
HUB
sendspace mediafire megaupload
i'll jump the hoops

FLAC would be nice...

You want a version of Machina II that just gets over with a little faster than the previous version, eh?

I think all the versions are on the archive, T&T. That's where I got my recent DL of it. Previously only had the ~2000 original 192KMp3 release. Still have those CD rips, if you want me to mail them.

I think all the versions are on the archive, T&T.
i don't think this transfer is on the archive.

i have it at my parents place in mp3 format, no idea of the linage, i got some guy i didn't know from a pumpkins email list to burn me a CD of the mp3's, and they are definatley the speed wonky mp3's. don't even know the bitrate.

next time i'm there i'll grab it if you haven't found a source by then (could be a month or more)

edit: by the way your an absolute nut - not only for wanting to track this down, but to want it in flac? :p

seriously...

i have this somewhere, as i said last time. but i'm not 100% sure where. i'm pretty disorganized. what i have is either the mp3s or .wavs made from the mp3s. i don't particularly remember .shn files being put up anywhere (no one was really using flac in the SP community until like 2002), but that doesn't mean they weren't around (though i kind of feel like if they were around, i would have downloaded them).

I remember these being faster: http://www.rspaa.org/rspaa/Miscellaneous/Machina%20II%20%5Bjosh%20c%5D/

this hasn't been traded in lossless
but eric did personally make Wave cd's from his rip and give those to friends (in hand)
(or so i've read in post histories)

lots of those were ripped to mp3's & were traded online
it would be nice if one of those people did a proper rip today to share.....




and as for josh's mix... :erm:
i'll throw it in the pile with the thir13en version....

I believe the mp3's I downloaded where the thir13en's.

this hasn't been traded in lossless
but eric did personally make Wave cd's from his rip and give those to friends (in hand)
(or so i've read in post histories)

lots of those were ripped to mp3's & were traded online
it would be nice if one of those people did a proper rip today to share.....
yeah, this was discussed earlier.
i think there were some people who would check if they had one of these wave sourced cds, but we never heard back from them.

yeah, this was discussed earlier.
i think there were some people who would check if they had one of these wave sourced cds, but we never heard back from them.
I keep forgetting to rip it. I'll try to get it done before I move, but I've been pretty busy lately.

do you want me to PM you to remind you?
would snail mail be easier?

hey, just asking why you are so keen to hear it? i mean i consider myself a bit of a collectors nut, but a dodgy rip? you could use an audio program to speed up an alternate MII source and get the general feel! haha

i used to have a download of the agnew rip, it was my first machina ii download.
ignorantly ditched it when the better rips came out.....
all the versions that successfully came out all got cleaner and clearer...SPIFC < Q101
so it's part nostalgia,
and partly because that rip does have a different feel
Why not maintain a quality version of the "first impressions" the album had on us when we first listened to it?

bump

I'm still searching the ethos....
is it ok if i BuMb this?

http://www.orphweb.de/billyschart.jpg

I remember that pic! Wow that was a long time ago. Crazy.

do you want me to PM you to remind you?
would snail mail be easier?

I haven't forgotten, I just haven't unpacked my cd's yet and likely won't for a few weeks, but as soon as I find it, I'll let you guys know.

we haven't forgotten you....
How's the move coming along?

a bump for Gaddrow

we're watching you!

I haven't forgotten, I just haven't unpacked my cd's yet and likely won't for a few weeks, but as soon as I find it, I'll let you guys know.

http://www.chathamgirlsgrammar.medway.sch.uk/pages/common/events/2003/Marathon/pictures/Mr%20Bump.jpg

i'm only posting so i have 5 post. wooo

well you will be banned for spamming then.

he's not doing very well, he's up to 3 posts.

he's not doing very well, he's up to 3 posts.

6

Gaddrow

WHERE ARE YOU?????????????

~ 3% fast rip

~2000 original

What do all these numbers and squiggles mean?

squiggles mean approximately.

numbers mean nothing; they are merely a construct.

Oh, I should have known the ~

... a construct of what?

a construct of your MIND.
just like dreams.
and sound.

and Time.

and love.

was " Machina II / Eric Agnew ~ 3% fast rip" a construct of my mind?

it did exist right?
it does still exist right?
can someone just share it?
make my dreams come true.
make the dream real again.

uh wait so you'll take mp3s? these are they: Metro | Chicago (http://www.metrochicago.com/pumpkins/)

i think the virgin rip is slightly faster than q101 and spifc... not nearly as fast as the agnew rip, but still. never noticed this before.

uh wait so you'll take mp3s? these are they: Metro | Chicago (http://www.metrochicago.com/pumpkins/)

SPFC is the slowest
then Q101
Virgin is fastest of the 3 "official"

(13) is the same speed as the q101

this MetroChicago is faster then the three. :banging: :eek:
so it's a DIFFERENT RIP!!!!!
:)

and it really does sound like what my ears have been dreaming about all along.



THANKS TCM
YOU ARE MY HERO.


i'm gonna assume this is the agnew rip... unless someone wants to prove otherwise.


(flac anyone? :P )

they're the same speed as the josh camp (R S P A A : the Reborn Smashing Pumpkins Audio Archive (http://www.rspaa.org/rspaa/Miscellaneous/Machina%20II%20%5Bjosh%20c%5D/)) tracks
i'm gonna jump the gun and confirm the tracks hosted at metro chicago as the agnew ~3% fast rip.



the josh comp is heavily eq'd. and not all tracks are present. (i might be over-using the word heavy)

actually i don't know about the josh camp comp.
some of it seems virgin speed.

can someone lend their ears?


edit:
actually FUCK the josh comp
he's got speed kills from the SIYL single. pshaw man... c'mon. at least use the tracks on machina ii if you're gonna make a machina ii comp... :erm:

tt - which rip is closest in speed to the digital releases?

ie. lucky 13, try alt, real love?


and did anyone ever establish which rip the o-site "lofi" official 320kbps mp3's and real audio files were from? one of these or a different source? (possibly digital source?)

tt - which rip is closest in speed to the digital releases?

ie. lucky 13, try alt, real love?


they are the closest to the virgin (imho)
but i'd say they're a different rip (probably NOT transferred from the vinyl)



i was always under the impression that the o-site 320kbps was the same as the virgin... i dont' have em, can't check.

i'll download those too if someone has em.

What's crazy about the 3% faster is of course the fact that the pitch of every instrument/voice is unnaturally raised. For example if my guitar was in E-flat tuning....say I just played along with Stand Inside Your Love...now if I wanted to play along with the 3% faster version of Let Me Give the World To You, my guitar would not be in tune with it at all, even though the song is in E-flat...I guess it's ok to listen to the album a little faster, but it is not the true version of the song, because you are also hearing strange in between pitches of the instruments that wasn't their tuning in the studio....

was " Machina II / Eric Agnew ~ 3% fast rip" a construct of my mind?

it did exist right?
it does still exist right?
can someone just share it?
make my dreams come true.
make the dream real again.

It lives.
http://forums.netphoria.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=33324&stc=1&d=1228529349

Taken today. To be ripped.... Soon, very soon.


Writing on the CD done by 34 himself.

whoa

holey moley. merry christmas t&t.

:O

Writing on the CD done by 34 himself.

FAP FAP FAP

Eric still has the original dat... i'm sure he can do a re-transfer.

Eric still has the original dat... i'm sure he can do a re-transfer.

Yeah, I'm sure he'd be excited to take a break from banging hot Asian chicks to transfer an eight year old dat tape.

christmas comes early this year!!!!
what's a really big smiley face?
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))


this thread is over a year old.
def worth the wait.

def worth the wait.

you are nuts, you know right?

i'm going crazy!!...


anticipation
is eating
at my fingernails

but you already got the mp3's ages ago yes?

now your just waiting for lossless?

Metro | Chicago (http://www.metrochicago.com/pumpkins/) might be the mp3's

they might not....

the tease is ON!

It lives.

Taken today. To be ripped.... Soon, very soon.


Writing on the CD done by 34 himself.

P-P-P-PLUS REPPPPP.

what's the back story behind "34" as agnews code name?


http://forums.netphoria.org/trading-post-archive/109988-machina-ii-promo-ebay.html#post1946296

what's the back story behind "34" as agnews code name?

3 = E
4 = A

no?

3 = E
4 = A

no?

truth

two more days till christmas!!!!

The Gaddrow, where are you?

Oh. I don't celebrate Christmas.

Happy New Year. PM me your address and it will be in the mail Friday. Or sometime otherwise in 2009. You know how I roll.

DONE. and done.

happy new year.

if THE GADDROW fails you, i have this as well (I wasn't sure I had the one you wanted until mike posted that pic - is that your handwriting or Eric's? I always assumed it was yours, but who knows. )

isn't it easier/faster to rip the cd, encode to flac and upload those flac files somewhere?

isn't it easier/faster to rip the cd, encode to flac and upload those flac files somewhere?

this would work too, but it's up to you you GADDROW (or ammy), what ever is easiest.

i'll rip & upload it if i get a physical cd.

motherfuck. i found it, but the cd is damaged. i don't know how much i can salvage.

not sure where the b-sides are... looking.

:apopcorn:

removed for inanity.

that's it. i'm no help to you all, i suck and will withdraw myself from this thread.

and try microwaving this useless cd. at least then it will bring me joy with shiny

use this program...Download Exact Audio Copy (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/index.php/resources/download/)

I mean...d'oh! thanks anyway? cds in the microwave can be fun...it's really not worthwhile setting them for any more than ~2 seconds though.

yeeah.. this damaged disk is a copy of the orig i got from eric/mike, so there's hope i'll find the orig, but it's in the garage somewhere.. so we'll just see if Mike pulls through ;)

Hogwash.

i just got a special PM... yip yip.

:)

thanks.
you should post the links here too. i'm certain others will be interested as well.

Hogwash.

;)

i'm certain others will be interested as well.

Affirmative.

MII CR04 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B2ENFJGK)

MII CRO1-CR03 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1GFJM4VK)

MII CR04 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B2ENFJGK)

MII CRO1-CR03 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1GFJM4VK)

Thanks a lot!

woo hoo, thanks!

cheers

i'm certain others will be interested as well.

i can't believe your right....

MII CR04 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B2ENFJGK)

MII CRO1-CR03 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1GFJM4VK)

Many thanks.

MII CR04 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B2ENFJGK)

MII CRO1-CR03 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1GFJM4VK)

danke! :smoke:

these sound good!!!

the metro website is most definitely sourced from this.

did i mention "THANKS@!!!!"

leave me your mailing address and i'll get around to sending you something .

Is there any info as to what brand/model turntable + stylus/cartridge was used for the transfer?

Is there any info as to what brand/model turntable + stylus/cartridge was used for the transfer?

I have no idea. Maybe someone can give Eric a nudge and get him to shed some more light on his transfer. He burned the discs while we (Ammy and I) were sitting in his office. I feel like I recall seeing a turntable, but can't remember anything about it. I only remember the Jawa perched on one of his monitors and how cool it was to hold the vinyl.

wow, ammy is more of a numbskull than i thought.

Thanks! I have problems to extract CR01-CR03. I use winrar. I'm the only one?

Would someone give me some history on this rip?

Thanks! I have problems to extract CR01-CR03. I use winrar. I'm the only one?

Worked fine for me. Maybe you should download it again?

I noticed the CR01-CR03 rar file had both the flac and the wave files.

Hey, I got to ask why everyones into a 3% faster version? Is it cause you just literally enjoy listening to it faster, or how the whole pitch of the songs are altered? Just wondering. I do intend to check it out though.

I think it's mainly because it's another transfer of the vinyls, next to the Q101 version, the SPIFC version, and that Virgin promo.

wow, ammy is more of a numbskull than i thought.

whaaat. i have a damaged disk and stuff in storage. i don't trade shit usually, so I don't know what software to use.
i found the disks after these files were upped too.


i just babble a lot.

I have no idea. Maybe someone can give Eric a nudge and get him to shed some more light on his transfer. He burned the discs while we (Ammy and I) were sitting in his office. I feel like I recall seeing a turntable, but can't remember anything about it. I only remember the Jawa perched on one of his monitors and how cool it was to hold the vinyl.

the turntable was silver is all i remember.
you would remember Jawa, wouldn't you

the turntable was silver

i hear those are pretty good

need polishing periodically, however.

Worked fine for me. Maybe you should download it again?

I noticed the CR01-CR03 rar file had both the flac and the wave files.

Ok, I will try...

Worked fine for me. Maybe you should download it again?

I noticed the CR01-CR03 rar file had both the flac and the wave files.

You were right. It works now! Thanks

Hey, I got to ask why everyones into a 3% faster version? Is it cause you just literally enjoy listening to it faster, or how the whole pitch of the songs are altered? Just wondering. I do intend to check it out though.
this rip was simply the "first" i listened to
the virgin, SPFC & Q101 rips came much later
rotten apples wasn't released yet, so there was no official reference point to exactly what pitch/speed it was supposed to play at
(who's gonna complain about a bad rip, when it's a free album :) )
getting this out to the public quickly was of the essence,

as better rips came along, many of us just discarded previous "lower quality" versions,
but 8 years later, the nostalgia of what that first rip sounded like still remains
it's nice to know others have been wanting this as well.



but personally, I do like listening to my albums faster and higher pitch in general
I like more aggressive vocals and a harsher treble
and I like that "edge" .
it's an exaggeration and distortion of billy's already harsh voice
it just rocks that much harder imho
here's a sample :blush: ... http://www.sendspace.com/file/i4v3wz
(or just use soundtouch codec in foobar and adjust the rate)

Is there any info as to what brand/model turntable + stylus/cartridge was used for the transfer?

This was my ultra-hi-fi setup :P"

unknown stylus cartridge (replaced in late 90s for ~$20, IIRC, & barely used) >
Sony PS-LX150H turntable >
Sony LBT-D159 stereo (RCA in) >
Sony PCM-M1 DAT (line in)

This was a "get it out there, now" release. I didn't have the greatest equipment- the turntable (which was black, btw :P") had 2 speeds (33-1/3 & 45) w/ no fine adjustment (that I know of)- but I figured someone else would release a better one eventually anyway. (Anyone want to buy Karl or Dave an ELP laser turntable for that 24/96 rip? :P")

And yeah, that's my writing on the CD.. lol

MII CR04 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B2ENFJGK)

MII CRO1-CR03 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1GFJM4VK)

thank you very much

this rip was simply the "first" i listened to
the virgin, SPFC & Q101 rips came much later
rotten apples wasn't released yet, so there was no official reference point to exactly what pitch/speed it was supposed to play at
(who's gonna complain about a bad rip, when it's a free album :) )
getting this out to the public quickly was of the essence,

as better rips came along, many of us just discarded previous "lower quality" versions,
but 8 years later, the nostalgia of what that first rip sounded like still remains
it's nice to know others have been wanting this as well.



but personally, I do like listening to my albums faster and higher pitch in general
I like more aggressive vocals and a harsher treble
and I like that "edge" .
it's an exaggeration and distortion of billy's already harsh voice
it just rocks that much harder imho
here's a sample :blush: ... Send big files the easy way. Files too large for email attachments? No problem! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/i4v3wz)
(or just use soundtouch codec in foobar and adjust the rate)

Dude, definitely. Really cool. It doesn't hurt that the songs on Machina II are just THAT good as well.

which was black, btw :P"


lol. oh well it /was/ just a *few* years ago... silver, black.. all the same!

Hi. long time.

This was my ultra-hi-fi setup :P"

unknown stylus cartridge (replaced in late 90s for ~$20, IIRC, & barely used) >
Sony PS-LX150H turntable >
Sony LBT-D159 stereo (RCA in) >
Sony PCM-M1 DAT (line in)

This was a "get it out there, now" release. I didn't have the greatest equipment- the turntable (which was black, btw :P") had 2 speeds (33-1/3 & 45) w/ no fine adjustment (that I know of)- but I figured someone else would release a better one eventually anyway. (Anyone want to buy Karl or Dave an ELP laser turntable for that 24/96 rip? :P")

And yeah, that's my writing on the CD.. lol


Thanks! :cheers:

I came across this blurb about various versions:
4) Billy Corgan's Copy. Formerly available only in 320kbps from his website, now unavailable "officially."
I always thought this was the same as the virgin rip.

Does someone still have this? & I believe it was also avaliable in Real Audio. Is it the same as what's currently hosted on sp.com (i'm off to go look)