Ok so there is ultra rare trax but it is mp3 sourced. not only that but outdated. i dont have everything but i got a few cd with rarities and b-sides. my question is how much interest would there be if i got everything together and kind of revamped a collection? kind of like the official sp b-side catalog but lossless and without all the fluff. prolly around 2-3 cds. and i would probably need help getting more sources for the songs.

oh i voted yes, but when i saw it was lossless i take it back. Sorry just don't hear the diff expeically with my tiny hd

oh i voted yes, but when i saw it was lossless i take it back. Sorry just don't hear the diff expeically with my tiny hd


Wow, you do realize that you can convert them yourself, and even if you didn't want to a half hour after it's out someone will do it for you.

oh i voted yes, but when i saw it was lossless i take it back. Sorry just don't hear the diff expeically with my tiny hd

You shouldn't complain about having a tiny hd these days.

I bought a Seagate 500GB SATA/300 drive for $119 last week at Circuit City.

s'ok to complain if you're out of room on your IDE cable though.

man, I really need to buy a new PC.

s'ok to complain if you're out of room on your IDE cable though.

man, I really need to buy a new PC.

Build one! It's cheaper!


Also, if you guys need any contributions, let me know. I still have the Smashing Pumpkins Vinyl Collection(SPVC) (http://members.shaw.ca/cdrchow/music/sp/sp_spvc.txt) from years ago. Probably the best sources for vinyl that I've heard.

Isn't there a compilation that has all of the SP remixes? I remember seeing a tracklisting a couple years ago. Does anyone know what the deal is with that?

Build one! It's cheaper!


Also, if you guys need any contributions, let me know. I still have the Smashing Pumpkins Vinyl Collection(SPVC) (http://members.shaw.ca/cdrchow/music/sp/sp_spvc.txt) from years ago. Probably the best sources for vinyl that I've heard.

yea the vinyl stuff will be hard. i have the starseed vinyl rips but im still missing a few so if you can send it to me please do. right now im really working on the list of what to *******. i think ill make a few compilations, one with just remixes (perfect, 1979, teitbite, etc) that may it will look prettier than mixing them with the other stuff. maybe one of all side project stuff. not quite sure. but there are some things that are definite.

yea the vinyl stuff will be hard. i have the starseed vinyl rips but im still missing a few so if you can send it to me please do. right now im really working on the list of what to *******. i think ill make a few compilations, one with just remixes (perfect, 1979, teitbite, etc) that may it will look prettier than mixing them with the other stuff. maybe one of all side project stuff. not quite sure. but there are some things that are definite.

I'll have to rip that this weekend. You comfortable with downloading from an ftp?

can i get it too?

i just recently made a data cd of all the raritites etc. stuff i had. ended up being like 119 songs or something i think

i think i have 99% of the stuff that was released on cd. so i don't really need a compilation like this, except for the vinyl stuff maybe. (i have the vinyls too, but not the transfers to cd.)
but i don't mind helping you out if you need something.

CAIC, do you have a list of the cds you have?

i don't. but i could make one.

what kind of songs do you want to includ<zeewier>e?
everything that's not on the main releases? would you i<goudvis>nclude b-sides that didn't make it on pisces iscariot, such as dancing in the moonlight, for example?
or would you use another rule to decide what to incl<haai>ude and what not?

i don't. but i could make one.

what kind of songs do you want to includ<zeewier>e?
everything that's not on the main releases? would you i<goudvis>nclude b-sides that didn't make it on pisces iscariot, such as dancing in the moonlight, for example?
or would you use another rule to decide what to incl<haai>ude and what not?

yea dancing in the moonlight is a big one. i still need to make a list but its mostly all the single b-sides plus compilation contributions (drown, jackie blue, etc.). but if you could get me a list id appreciate it.

some smashing pumpkins releases that could be of interest:
lull(slunk/bye june)
peel sessions (siva/smiley)
cherub rock (that karaoke thingy)
today japan (apathy's last kiss)
disarm (dancing in the moonlight)
rocket (never let me down)
1979 mixes (vocal mix/instrumental mix/moby mix/cement mix)
teitbite (the end.../the beginning.../the ethers tragic/the guns of love disastrous)
teitbite the remixes (5 diff. remixes)
teitbite fluke remixes promo (1 additional remix)
ava adore (once in a while/czarina)
perfect (summer/daphne descends kerry b mix)
perfect (5 diff. remixes)
siyl (speed kills)
still becoming apart(hope/mayonaise acoustic/apathy's last kiss)
untitled (try alt./age of i early)
tarantula (death from above/zeitgeist)
that's the way (daydream/stellar)

other stuff:
light into dark (my dahlia/sun)
absolute middle of nowhere (i am one 7" version)
20 explosive... (jackie blue)
singles soundtrack (drown)
no alternative (glynis)
family christmas in your ass: kevin and bean (rudolph the red-nosed reindeer)
onxrt: live from the archives vol 3 (rocket live)
sweet relief II (sad peter pan)
a very special christmas vol 3 (christmastime)
guitars that rule the world vol 2: smell the fuzz (ascendo)
ransom soundtrack (rats, worms, spiders, lizards, worms pt 2, squirrels with tails)
means to an end (starchildren-isolation)
iommi (black oblivion)
new order - get ready (turn my way)
some brazilian promo cd (teitbite nu-wave batcave remix)
launch cd-rom (bullet live)

also:
live in chicago 23.10.95
live at cabaret metro 10-5-88

i probably forgot some.

edit: add live x vol 6 (age of innocence live) to the list.

a top quality vinyl transfer of the albums would be an awesome contribution also...

you mean taking all the rarities/bsides and sticking them on one giant zip file? yeah I'd be down for that.

I have the extensive vinyl collection that collectspumpkins made a few years back. Think it's five discs of stuff, but I'm not sure if I have any more than three.

Dunno the tracklisting either.

I have the extensive vinyl collection that collectspumpkins made a few years back. Think it's five discs of stuff, but I'm not sure if I have any more than three.

Dunno the tracklisting either.

and then i realised by 'a few years back' i meant seven years ago.

wow.

time fucking flies, eh?

I'm jumping in here. I am currently in the process of reorganizing my collection and I really like this idea....

What about:

Stigmata Sound Track:
7. Identify - Natalie Imbrugla
8. Identify (Dust)/1,000,000 Voice
9. Pop Pop/Await/Reflect (Pretty)
10. Reflect (Clouds)/Truth Listen
11. Of Square Waves/Random Thought
12. Reflection/Possession
13. Reflect (Gray)/Of Sine Waves
14. Distrbnce (After Sckhausen)/Reflect (Pause)/Orah
15. Sustain/Identify (Affectation)
16. All Answers Revealed/Reflect (Devotion)
17. Purge/10,000,000 Voices/Reflect (Purity)/Identify (Peace)
18. Reflect (Time)/Tree Whispers

And from:

Troublizing (Ric Ocasek):
The Next Right Moment - BC Guitars - Matt Walker Drums - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals
Crashland Consequence - BC Keyboard, Vocals and Production - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals
Situation - BC Guitar and Production - Matt Walker Drums - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals
Fix On You - BC Guitars and Production - Matt Walker Drums - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals
People We Know - BC Guitars, Keyboard,Vocals and Production - Matt Walker Drums
Asia Minor - BC Guitar,Vocals and Production - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals


If I think of any others, I will chime in again

-Star

I recall trying to download SPVC over dial-up. . . never did finish getting it, so I'd love to get another chance at that.

And the b-sides compilation would be cool; very cool. I mean, sure, I've got them in mp3 format, and have most of the tracks on the actual singles, but that's all up in a box in my closet. so yeah, way cool to have lossless copy available on my hard drive.
Honestly I'm not so interested in the remixes or the tracks where Billy is just a special guest, but I suppose if all tracks would be available for download separately we might as well just go for broke.

In general I'm not for the sharing of lossless material, but I'm not gonna go and buy 20 Explosive Dynamic Super Smash Hit Explosions just for the 1 kick-ass track.

I'd give my left nut if billy re-recorded many of his older demos.

I'd give my left nut if billy re-recorded many of his older demos.
yeah, jennifer ever will be great with the thousand b0lly chorus overdubed :erm:

I'll keep my left nut kthxbi

i agree that the side stuff such as stigmata or new order shouldn't be added to the compilation. once you start adding those, it becomes endless.
the remixes would also make the compilation hard to digest.

i don't know about the ransom tracks. it wasn't released under the name of the pumpkins, but they used to play some of these live.

http://btjunkie.org/torrent/All-of-The-Smashing-Pumpkins-ALL/51388e835273911561b69f32695a3a5fb1c693480b5b


what is the baker demos?
untroo alert or what?

just make a pile of as much of it as possible
let people pick and choose what they want...
my Compilation of Miscleanous songs is I have looks like this:

1989 - My Dahlia [Light into Dark]
1989 - Sun [Light into Dark]
1991 - Jackie Blue [20 Explosive Dynamic Super Smash Hit Explosions]
1993 - Drown (un-cut) [Singles OST]
1993 - Glynis [No Alternative]
1994 - Never Let Me Down Again [Depeche Mode Comp]
1994 - Spaceboy [NME Magazine Tape]
1995 - Infinite Sadness [Mellon Collie Vinyl]
1995 - Pumpkin [Tricky sample]
1995 - Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer [No Toys For O.J.]
1996 - Ascendo [The Guitars That Rule The World]
1996 - Eye [Lost Highway OST]
1996 - Sad Peter Pan [Sweet Relief II]
1997 - Christmastime [A Very Special Christmas 3]
1997 - Space jam [1997-01-08]
1998 - When I Was Born I Was Bored [Shudder to Think]
2000 - Hope [Still Becoming Apart]
2000 - Mayonaise (Acoustic) [Still Becoming Apart]
2005 - Tilt [Billy Corgan - The Red Room Vol. 04]

dunno.

yeah, jennifer ever will be great with the thousand b0lly chorus overdubed :erm:


need a new producer :)

s'ok to complain if you're out of room on your IDE cable though.

man, I really need to buy a new PC.

Buy a 10$ ide controller card.

http://btjunkie.org/torrent/All-of-The-Smashing-Pumpkins-ALL/51388e835273911561b69f32695a3a5fb1c693480b5b


what is the baker demos?
untroo alert or what?


roy thomas baker demos? SRSLY?

i think those are the leaks by the band that tried to pass themselves off as SP back in '06

edit:
http://www.spin.com/features/everybodystalkingabout/2006/12/061207_smashingpumpkins/

the torrent has the same fake song titles
"Collapsing Cities," "In the Eyes Beholding," "The Restless World," and "Siam Mais"

i made one of these a few years ago - a compilation for 'normal' songs, a separate one for remixes:

everything that was released in the sp name but not on the studio albums or TAFH, earphoria, GH/judas0

SP Collected
CD1
My Dahlia [Light Into Dark comp 04/89]
Sun [Light Into Dark comp 04/89]
I Am One [Ltd Potential 7" single 04/90]
Not Worth Asking [I Am One 7" bside 04/90]
Tristessa [Sub Pop single 12/90]
Honeyspider [Tristessa 12" bside 12/90]
Slunk [Lull EP 11/91]
Bye June [Lull EP 11/91]
Jackie Blue [20 Explosive Dynamic Super Smash Hit Explosions! xx/91]
Daughter [Reflex flexi 7" 04/92]
Siva (Peel version) [Peel Sessions CD 06/92]
Smiley [Peel Sessions CD 06/92]
Drown (full version) [Singles sdtk 06/92]
Bullet Train To Osaka [I Am One 10" bside 08/92]
Terrapin [I Am One 10" bside 08/92]
Purr Snickety [Cherub Rock 7" bside 07/93]
Star Spangled Banner [Cherub Rock 12"/CD unlisted bside 07/93]
Apathy's Last Kiss [Today 7" bside 09/93]
Glynis [No Alternative comp 11/93]
Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer [No Toys For OJ comp xx/93]
Spaceboy (acoustic) [NME Brat Pack comp 01/94]

CD2
phone message [The Absolute Middle Of Nowhere #17 comp unlisted track xx/94]
Siamese Dream [Disarm 7" bside 03/94]
Dancing In The Moonlight [Disarm 12"/CD bside 03/94]
Honeyspider II [Pisces Iscariot bonus 7" 10/94]
Never Let Me Down [Rocket bside 12/94]
Infinite Sadness [MCIS Japanese Bonus track 10/95]
Rocket (acoustic) [OnXRT Live From The Archives 3 comp 04/96]
Sad Peter Pan [Sweet Relief II comp 08/96]
The End Is The Beginning Is The End [CD single 06/97]
The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning [TEITBITE bside 06/97]
The Ethers Tragic [TEITBITE bside 06/97]
The Guns Of Love Disastrous [TEITBITE bside 06/97]
Christmastime [A Very Special Christmas 3 xx/97]
Czarina [Ava Adore bside 05/98]
Once In A While [Ava Adore bside 05/98]
Summer [Perfect bside 09/98]
Mayonaise (acoustic) [1991-1998 promo 12/99]
Speed Kills [Stand Inside Your Love bside 02/00]
Hope [Still Becoming Apart promo 02/00]
Try [Untitled bside xx/01]
Age Of I (early) [Untitled bside xx/01]

---------------
SP Remixes Collected

CD1
1979 Vocal Mix
1979 Instrumental Mix
1979 Moby Mix
1979 Cement Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Vox Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Alt Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Instrumental Mix
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Melancholy & the Infinite Madness Mix
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Infinite Radio Edit
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Melancholy & the Infinite Dub
TEITBITE Hallucination's Gotham Ghetto Beats
TEITBITE Hallucination's Nu-Wave Batcave Mix

CD2
Daphne Descends (Kerry B Mix)
Perfect Nellee Hooper Mix
Perfect Nellee Hooper Instrumental
Perfect Perfecto Mix
Perfect Perfecto Dub
Perfect Electro Breakbeat Mix
Perfect Electro Breakbeat Dub
BONUS TRACKS:
Perfect Puff Daddy MP Mix
Perfect Puff Daddy Vocal Up Mix
Perfect Puff Daddy Instrumental Mix

i agree that the side stuff such as stigmata or new order shouldn't be added to the compilation. once you start adding those, it becomes endless.
the remixes would also make the compilation hard to digest.

i don't know about the ransom tracks. it wasn't released under the name of the pumpkins, but they used to play some of these live.

yea i agree. the side project and remix stuff would just ruin the flow. especially when there are like 7 remixes or the same song in a row. what ill do is end up putting all that stuff in a seperate collection. probably have a b-sdies collection, remix collection, and side project collection.

Sure I'd be interested if it was all lossless. I have nearly a lot of these tracks aside from the vinyls but I've never bothered ripping it all.

I'd really be most interested in SPVC tho. I only have a few mp3s sourced from it I downloaded back in the day.

Infinite Sadness [MCIS Japanese Bonus track 10/95]
i learn something new every day.

anyway, that compilation looks a lot like what we're going for, i guess.
some songs can be upgraded with a cd sourced version. and we could add age of i (acoustic) to the list. and maybe bullet (live). or, if someone has that promo acetate cd, ava adore (live) (http://www.spfreaks.com/Default.aspx?page=COLLDETAILS&item=332) too.

some songs can be upgraded with a cd sourced version. and we could add age of i (acoustic) to the list. and maybe bullet (live). or, if someone has that promo acetate cd, ava adore (live) (http://www.spfreaks.com/Default.aspx?page=COLLDETAILS&item=332) too.

oh actually it's mostly all cd sourced, i just put 7" to indicate their original release format (actually i realise a couple are from itunes)

technically, age of innocence was released as 'billy corgan' too

i think those are the leaks by the band that tried to pass themselves off as SP back in '06

edit:
http://www.spin.com/features/everybodystalkingabout/2006/12/061207_smashingpumpkins/

the torrent has the same fake song titles
"Collapsing Cities," "In the Eyes Beholding," "The Restless World," and "Siam Mais"


oh yea i forgot about those fake title "leaks"...damn i got excited again...




...damn



...damn :(

Now seeding:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3842138

(oi) thanks!

thanks

Now downloading... will be seeding

any info on the origin of these vinyl rips? is this also a starseed project?

Who ever has a setlist of all the bsides/rarities/demos please post.

I'm trying to see whats missing in my collection. Its pretty scattered

Now seeding:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3842138



Thanks!!!!

Will Seed too,

-Star

Now seeding:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3842138Thanks man. I'm not helping to seed as well. :)

Who ever has a setlist of all the bsides/rarities/demos please post.

I'm trying to see whats missing in my collection. Its pretty scattered

im working on one. ill let you know when its finished.

im working on one. ill let you know when its finished.


Thanks! Sounds good.

Now seeding:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3842138


Thanks Andrew much appreciated.

any info on the origin of these vinyl rips? is this also a starseed project?

I'm fairly certain that these were a Starseed project. I can't remember. All I know is that I'd never heard rips better than these ones before.

heres what i got so far:

Apathys last kiss
The beginning is the end is the beginning
Bullt train to Osaka
Bye june
Christmastime
Czarina
Daughter
Death from above
Drown
The end is the beginning is the end
The ethers tragic
Glynis
The guns of love disastrous
Honeyspider
Honeyspider ii
Hope
Infinite sadness
My dahlia
Not worth asking
Once in a while
Purr snickety
Siamese dream
Slunk
Smiley
Speed kills
Stellar
Summer
Sun
Zeitgeist
Dancing in the moonlight
Never let me down
Sad peter pan
Star spangled banner
Terrapin



Not sure to add:

Isolation (technically a side project)
If you want my love (technically a side project)
mandocello (technically a side project)
Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer (just live)
Daydream (just a live version but still a b-side)
Mayonnaise (from still becoming apart. also on MP)

What about the songs from the new stuff? QAOS/Adore II?

Not sure to add:

Isolation (technically a side project)
If you want my love (technically a side project)
mandocello (technically a side project)
Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer (just live)
Daydream (just a live version but still a b-side)
Mayonnaise (from still becoming apart. also on MP)
these can be added to "not sure to add/just live":
- rocket (onxrt)
- spaceboy (nme brat pack - cassette)
- bullet (launch)
- age of i (live x)

and what are mandocello and if you want my love? i don't think i know those.

What about the songs from the new stuff? QAOS/Adore II?
i don't think that belongs on this compilation. if i'm not mistaken, this compilation tries to in<sk>clude official releases that aren't on any of the main releases (the albums, pisces, tafh, rotten apples, judas o).

these can be added to "not sure to add/just live":
- rocket (onxrt)
- spaceboy (nme brat pack - cassette)
- bullet (launch)
- age of i (live x)

and what are mandocello and if you want my love? i don't think i know those.

http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/discog.html?discog_id=117

althought from the description i dont think it sounds like it qualifies. i thought it was a live cover but i guess they are just in the band.

and thats why im not sure to in<sk>clude mayonaise because its on MP and i dont know if i really want to in<sk>clude live versions of the songs. but then i really think daydream should be in<sk>cluded.

maybe we can add an extra disc with the live songs?
might depend on how nicely the "real" b-sides (not live songs) fill the first disc(s).

i don't think that belongs on this compilation. if i'm not mistaken, this compilation tries to in<sk>clude official releases that aren't on any of the main releases (the albums, pisces, tafh, rotten apples, judas o).

right. QAOS and adore demos ii stand on their own.

1. Nice work so far, guys.
2. Andrew thanks for the SPVC
3. Related - anyone have starseed's rip of Adore vinyl/mono that they could share?

Thanks.

maybe we can add an extra disc with the live songs?
might depend on how nicely the "real" b-sides (not live songs) fill the first disc(s).


yea thats what i was thinking. it would only be a few tracks anyway. kind of like a small sampler disc.

also, i was looking for opinions on tracklisting. i was gonna just put them in chronological order like ultra rare tracks but the more i think about it the more i think it would be better to put them in a more aesthetically pleasing flow of sorts. as if it were PI or Judas O. also i think a cool name (possibly in the tradition of PI or Judas O) would be merited.

Negro Mac Black Cock?

i don't think that belongs on this compilation. if i'm not mistaken, this compilation tries to in<sk>clude official releases that aren't on any of the main releases (the albums, pisces, tafh, rotten apples, judas o).



Ohhhh, so no demos and live stuff.

Negro Mac Black Cock?

we'll just put that in the "maybe" pile

i made one of these a few years ago - a compilation for 'normal' songs, a separate one for remixes:

SP Remixes Collected

CD1
1979 Vocal Mix
1979 Instrumental Mix
1979 Moby Mix
1979 Cement Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Vox Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Alt Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Instrumental Mix
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Melancholy & the Infinite Madness Mix
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Infinite Radio Edit
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Melancholy & the Infinite Dub
TEITBITE Hallucination's Gotham Ghetto Beats
TEITBITE Hallucination's Nu-Wave Batcave Mix

CD2
Daphne Descends (Kerry B Mix)
Perfect Nellee Hooper Mix
Perfect Nellee Hooper Instrumental
Perfect Perfecto Mix
Perfect Perfecto Dub
Perfect Electro Breakbeat Mix
Perfect Electro Breakbeat Dub
BONUS TRACKS:
Perfect Puff Daddy MP Mix
Perfect Puff Daddy Vocal Up Mix
Perfect Puff Daddy Instrumental Mix
:) :blush: :)

Does anyone happen to have a list of all the demos/covers that are outthere to find?

Does anyone happen to have a list of all the demos/covers that are outthere to find?
why would you throw demos and covers together? you're making things more complicated than they should be.

as for demos, the list is long. i wouldn't make a list of songs, but rather of demo tapes, etc. (some overlap, and it's not a complete list either)
- smashing pumpkins
- moon
- reel time studios
- reel time studios (acoustic session)
- qaos
- billy's gravity demos i
- 666
- mcis demos i
- mcis demos ii
- mcis demos iii
- adore demos
- adore b-sides
- machina acoustic demos
- faeomm
+ some stuff like i fall or some demos off mashed potatoes

why has no "eye demo" ever surfaced?

isn't there a demo of Tear still out there to go along with the Eye demo (both were submitted as possibilities for the lost highway soundtrack, if I remember correctly)? I would love to hear both of these if they ever leak.

ok so ive compiled a list of tracks to inculde which totals to about 42 songs, 14 tracks on 3 cds.

are you going to post the list?

why has no "eye demo" ever surfaced?
1. does it exist? (dunno.)
2. if it exists, do you think it will have any other tracks than already available on the other demo tapes, such as moon, the 5-track sampler, and others? (i don't think so.)

I'm impressed with myself today. The only one I don't have is 666, and that's cuz the only copy I've found/pursued is the shitty one on RSPAA.

why would you throw demos and covers together? you're making things more complicated than they should be.

as for demos, the list is long. i wouldn't make a list of songs, but rather of demo tapes, etc. (some overlap, and it's not a complete list either)
- smashing pumpkins
- moon
- reel time studios
- reel time studios (acoustic session)
- qaos
- billy's gravity demos i
- 666
- mcis demos i
- mcis demos ii
- mcis demos iii
- adore demos
- adore b-sides
- machina acoustic demos
- faeomm
+ some stuff like i fall or some demos off mashed potatoes

are you going to post the list?

no. never. :rolleyes:
eventually. i have the list of what songs to inclu<sf>de. just havent finished the tracklisting order. some songs (like christmastime) kind of make it hard to flow very well.

Track order is very important :)

christmastime is never gonna fit nicely in any trackorder...

Hey, with respect to the SPVC, for the tracks that are also released on CD (say La Dolly Vita for example) are they any different in this rip, other than maybe sounding like they are ripped from a record?

christmastime is never gonna fit nicely in any trackorder...

yea i think ill just tag it on the end. nice and out of the way.

Hey, with respect to the SPVC, for the tracks that are also released on CD (say La Dolly Vita for example) are they any different in this rip, other than maybe sounding like they are ripped from a record?

no theyre no different. just pressed on an lp instead of a cd.

hehe, just finding that out now. . . oh well, bit of bandwidth wasted.

what's the matter. . . . what's the difference?
what's the question?!?

oh, but I had forgotten, this Tristessa is the single version, how exciting! Nice, save me from having to buy a turntable to listen to my own copy.

so which gish era songs are different versions on the singles? i am one and tristessa but any else?

so which gish era songs are different versions on the singles? i am one and tristessa but any else?
yep, i am one (limited potential) and tristessa (sub pop) are the only ones.
you put it a bit weird though. there's an i am one single with the gish version too.
and the different i am one and tristessa were recorded before they started on gish.

oh, and if you want to, you could also add peel sessions' siva to the different versions.

Are these going to be your own rips bobbin?

Are these going to be your own rips bobbin?

not entirely. i have some stuff i will rip. other stuff is going to be contributed by others. so is the siva from peel sessions different than the gish version?

so is the siva from peel sessions different than the gish version?
yes. it's the siva they recorded during the peel sessions. (together with girl named sandoz and smiley.)

lol

rofl rofl rofl!

OMG! :rofl:

rolf rolf rolfhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/RolfHarris.jpg/220px-RolfHarris.jpg

yea wasnt sure if the peel sessions siva was used on the album. im a little rusty on the gish era.

k here is the list of inclu<sk>ded songs so far. let me know if i left anything out.

age of innocence (alternate from untitled single)
apathys last kiss
TBITEITB
bullet train to osaka
bye june
christmastime
czarina
dancing in the moonlight
daughter
daydream (TTW single)
death from above
drown (full length not on GH)
TEITBITE
the ethers tragic
glynis
the guns of love disastrous
honeyspider
honeyspider ii
hope
i am one 7"
infinite sadness
isolation
jackie blue
mayonaise (acoustic)
my dahlia
never let me down
not worth asking
once in a while
purr snickety
rudolph the red nosed reindeer
sad peter pan
siamese dream
siva (peel sessions)
slunk
smiley
speed kills
star spangled banner (karaoke thing)
stellar
summer
sun
terrapin
try try try (alt from untitled single)
zeitgeist


if there are any other alternate version im forgetting or anything else lemme know.

here is a tentative tracklisting for the first disc:

1. hope
2. slunk
3. dancing in the moonlight
4. glynis
5. drown
6. mayonaise
7. apathys last kiss
8. siamese dream
9. sad peter pan
10. try try try
11. stellar
12. czarina
13. infinite sadness

justifiably left out since they're not "Smashing Pumpkins"
but I would ******* Ascendo & Tilt....

justifiably left out since they're not "Smashing Pumpkins"
but I would ******* Ascendo & Tilt....

technically, neither is isolation. but im still not sure on some things. i think ill later make another collection with more obscure billy related b-sibes such as zwan, and solo projects. who knows.

if there are any other alternate version im forgetting or anything else lemme know.
on first look: i don't see tristessa (sub pop)

i think we have pleanty of zwan comps already
and with an actual spun compilation (from the mp4 leaks)
i don't think we'll need more of those....



for those lacking:

lots of stuff over at:
http://www.ozphoria.com/media.php
plus:
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=16554
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=16555
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=16593
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=16610

Wait, I thought Ascendo was the smashing pumpkins.

Wait, I thought Ascendo was the smashing pumpkins.
billy corgan.

http://www.spfreaks.com/data/images%5CCD's%20(official)%5CUS%5C04542smellthefuz zb.jpg

does someone have pumpkin rips of the vinyl singles? (aside from SD ones that were *******d in the SPCV)

thankyou andrew.

i don't understand why you would have any b-sides on the compilation. there are enough non-album/single songs anyways.

ok, if we're talking about whether Ascendo is Billy or SP (my vote, doesn't matter ******* it in the compilation) we might as well consider whether it's worth it to ******* the Star-Spangled Banner from the Cherub Rock single. . . I mean, it's some drunk in a karaoke bar.

if this link works. . .
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:NOMZbPymfygJ:www.spfc.org/songs-releases/song.html%3Fsong_id%3D165%26song_display%3D1%257C% 257C1%257C%257C%257C%257C%257C%257C%257C%26song_ty pe%3D3+%22spangled+banner%22+pumpkins+drunk&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&lr=lang_en&client=firefox-a

cool guys.. good work. it will be really great to have this all organized.

what about Spaceboy (1993.06.30 VPRO Radio) from NME Brat Pack? does that count?

breaker breaker
Hey, did ANYbody other than me download that torrent off oink last year, called "Cessetations of grandeur"(or something)?
It was 7 discs of perfect flac with every damn thing. Amazing vinyl rips, including the vinyl only mixes of teitbite.
It *******d starchildren songs, as well as ascendo etc. I have it all on my external drive, which is caseless until my new one comes on wednesday. Please don't put all this work into something that is already done.
Unless you already know of this compilation, I promise that you will not be disappointed. If you can wait till wednesday night for my update, you'll save yourself alot of stress.
Every track in the TAFH discog. (everything) plus TAFH & beyond thru 2000.

Oh yeah, ^ Spaceboy? That's on there too.

I can re-torrent this stuff publicly with 300kbps seed. If it's desired. I'll back this up asap.

Yeah i snatched that
I was going to mention it after i asked the OP if it would all be his own rips, because i thought it might be nice to do it from ths guy's stuff as then at least it's all ripped by the same person, same version of FLAC etc. but i just never did
I don't remember how good the vinyl rips are and i've been meaning to listen to them again "but i just never did"


Bootleg Information
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Smashing Pumpkins
Cessations Of Grandeur
[An Almost Complete Collection Of B-sides & Anomolies 1989-2003]

* Missing: Drown (Edit) from the "Drown CDS Promo"
Rocket (Live Tower Records, Chicago 23-07-1993 from "ONXRT: Live From The Archives Volume 3"
Hello Kitty Kat (Alternate Mix) from "Siamese Dream (Advnanced Cassette Promo)"
Perfect (Puff Daddy MP Mix) from "Perfect (Puff Daddy Remixes) In-house CD-R"
Perfect (Puff Daddy Vocal Up Mix) from "Perfect (Puff Daddy Remixes) In-house CD-R"
Perfect (Puff Daddy Instrumental Mix) from "Perfect (Puff Daddy Remixes) In-house CD-R"


Tracklisting (CD1)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. My Dahlia (3:41)
2. Sun (5:31)
3. Jennifer Ever (3:42)
4. East (4:08)
5. Nothing & Everything (5:52)
6. Sun (Remix) (5:26)
7. She (Live) (4:16)
8. Spiteface (4:36)
9. Honeyspider (Alternate Version) (2:28)
10. With You (2:39)
11. Egg (2:21)
12. Rhinoceros (Alternate Version) (5:20)
13. Bye June (6:04)
14. Stars Fall In (2:06)
15. Daughter (2:58)
16. Daydream (2:50)
17. Psychodelic (1:52)
18. I Am One (Original 7'' Version) (4:18)
19. Not Worth Asking (4:01)

* Tracks 1-2: Light Into Dark (1989)
* Tracks 3-8: The Smashing Pumpkins Demo Tape (1989)
* Tracks 9-17: Moon Demo Tape (1989)
* Tracks 18-19: I Am One 7'' (1990)


Tracklisting (CD2)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Tristessa (Original 12'' Version) (3:39)
2. La Dolly Vita (4:16)
3. Honeyspider (2:52)
4. Rhinoceros (Edit) (5:57)
5. Blue (3:22)
6. Slunk (2:49)
7. Bye June (2:09)
8. Daughter (2:50)
9. Jackie Blue (3:49)
10. Terrapin (2:54)
11. Bullet Train To Osaka (4:15)
12. Plume (3:40)
13. Starla (10:59)
14. Siva (John Peel Radio Session 08-09-1991) (4:53)
15. Girl Named Sandoz (John Peel Radio Session 08-09-1991) (3:38)
16. Smiley (John Peel Radio Session 08-09-1991) (3:31)
17. Drown (8:13)

* Tracks 1-3: Tristessa 12'' (1990)
* Tracks 4-7: Lull EP (1991)
* Track 8: Daughter 7'' Flexi (1992)
* Track 9: 20 Explosive Dynamic Super Smash Hit Explosions! (1991)
* Tracks 10-11: I Am One 10'' (1992)
* Tracks 12-13: I Am One CDS (1992)
* Tracks 14-16: Peel Sessions CDS (1992)
* Track 17: Singles OST (1992)


Tracklisting (CD3)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Pissant (2:30)
2. French Movie Theme (3:49)
3. Purr Snickety (2:52)
4. Hello Kitty Kat (4:32)
5. Obscured (5:21)
6. Apathy's Last Kiss (2:45)
7. Soothe (Demo) (2:35)
8. Blew Away (3:31)
9. Landslide (3:10)
10. Dancing In The moonlight (4:21)
11. Siamese Dream (2:35)
12. Space Boy (VPRO Session 30-06-1993) (4:07)
13. Glynis (4:49)
14. Never Let Me Down Again (3:58)
15. Isolation [Starchildren] (3:45)
16. Delusions Of Candor [Starchildren] (4:59)
17. Frail & Bedazzled (3:17)
18. Whir (4:10)
19. Spaced (2:24)
20. Not Worth Asking (4:01)
21. Honeyspider II (2:29)
22. Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer (1:17)

* Tracks 1-2: Cherub Rock CDS (1993)
* Track 3: Cherub Rock 7'' (1993)
* Tracks 4-5: Today (1994)
* Track 6: Still Becoming Apart (2000)
* Tracks 7-8: Disarm CDS1 (Smile) (1994)
* Tracks 9-10: Disarm CDS2 (Heart) (1994)
* Track 11: Disarm 7'' (1994)
* Track 12: New Musical Express: NME Brat Pack (1994)
* Track 13: No Alternative (1993)
* Track 14: Rocket CDS (1994)
* Track 15: A Means To An End: The Music Of Joy Division (1995)
* Track 16: Songs About Girls / Delusions Of Candor 7'' (1994)
* Tracks 17-19: Pisces Iscariot (1994)
* Tracks 20-21: Pisces Iscariot (Bonus 7'') (1994)
* Tracks 22: Kevin & Bean (No Toys For OJ) (1993)


Tracklisting (CD4)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Daughter (Extended Version) (3:57)
2. Siva (Live Acoustic Version) (5:25)
3. Blue (Live Acoustic Version) (3:14)
4. Jazzin' [Starchildren] (2:44)
5. I Am One (Live) (7:27)
6. 1979 (Vocal Mix) (5:11)
7. ...Said Sadly (3:13)
8. You're All I've Got Tonight (3:11)
9. Clones (We're All) (2:45)
10. A Night Like This (3:39)
11. Destination Unknown (4:17)
12. Dreaming (5:11)
13. Pastichio Medley (23:00)

* Tracks 1-5: Pisces Iscariot & Friends (CD2) (1994)
* Track 6: 1979 (Mixes) CDS (1996)
* Tracks 7-12: The Aeroplane Flies High (CD1): Bullet With Butterfly Wings (1996)
* Track 13: The Aeroplane Flies High (CD3): Zero (1996)


Tracklisting (CD5)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. 1979 (Cement Mix) (4:39)
2. Ugly (2:53)
3. The Boy (3:05)
4. Cherry (4:03)
5. Believe (3:17)
6. Set The Ray To Jerry (4:10)
7. 1979 (Moby Mix) (6:42)
8. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Vox Mix) (6:47)
9. God (3:09)
10. Mouths Of Babes (3:46)
11. Tribute To Johnny (2:33)
12. Marquis In Spades (3:17)
13. Pennies (2:29)
14. Ascendo (4:06)
15. Meladori Magpie (2:44)
16. Rotten Apples (3:04)
17. Jupiter's Lament (2:32)
18. Medellia Of The Gray Skies (3:11)
19. Blank (2:55)
20. Tonite Reprise (2:41)
21. Infinite Sadness (3:44)

* Tracks 1, 7: 1979 (Mixes) CDS (1996)
* Tracks 2-6: The Aeroplane Flies High (CD2): 1979 (1996)
* Track 8: The End Is The Beginning Is The End (The Remixes) CDS (1997)
* Tracks 9-13: The Aeroplane Flies High (CD3): Zero (1996)
* Track 14: The Guitars That Rule The World, Vol. 2: Smell The Fuzz (1995)
* Tracks 15-20: The Aeroplane Flies High (CD4): Tonight, Tonight (1996)
* Track 21: Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness LP (1994)


Tracklisting (CD6)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. The Last Song (3:55)
2. The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right) (8:36)
3. Transformer (3:29)
4. The Bells (2:19)
5. My Blue Heaven (3:22)
6. Christmastime (3:17)
7. Sad Peter Pan (5:11)
8. When I Was Born, I Was Bored [Shudder To Think] (1:28)
9. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (5:10)
10. The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning (5:02)
11. The Ethers Tragic (2:47)
12. The Guns Of Love Disastrous (4:11)
13. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Instrumental Mix) (6:45)
14. Perfect (Perfecto Dub) (7:01)
15. 1979 (Instrumental Mix) (5:20)

* Tracks 1-5: The Aeroplane Flies High (CD5): Thirty-Three (1996)
* Track 6: A Very Special Christmas 3 (1997)
* Track 7: Sweet Relief II: Gravity Of The Situation (1996)
* Track 8: First Love, Last Rites OST (1998)
* Tracks 9-12: The End Is The Beginning Is The End CDS (1997)
* Track 13: The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Fluke Remixes) 12'' Promo (1997)
* Track 14: Perfect (Remixes) CDS (1998)
* Track 15: 1979 (Mixes) CDS (1996)


Tracklisting (CD7)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Alternative Mix) (5:41)
2. Perfect (Nellee Hooper Mix) (4:15)
3. Czarina (4:43)
4. Once In A While (3:33)
5. Summer (3:14)
6. Daphne Descends (Kerry B Mix) (3:53)
7. Perfect (Electro Breakbeat Mix) (6:04)
8. Rats [Billy Corgan] (3:06)
9. Worms [Billy Corgan] (4:17)
10. Spiders [Billy Corgan] (3:34)
11. Lizards [Billy Corgan] (3:11)
12. Worms, Pt. 2 [Billy Corgan] (4:39)
13. Squirrels With Tails [Billy Corgan] (5:20)
14. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Hallucination's Gotham Ghetto Beats) (6:18)
15. Perfect (Electro Breakbeat Dub) (5:57)

* Tracks 1, 14: The End Is The Beginning Is The End (The Remixes) CDS (1997)
* Tracks 2, 7: Perfect (Remixes) CDS (1998)
* Tracks 3-4: Ava Adore CDS (1998)
* Tracks 5-6: Perfect CDS (1998)
* Tracks 8-13: Ransom OST (2006)
* Track 15: Perfect 12'' (US) (1998)


Tracklisting (CD8)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Rabbit In The Moon's Melancholy & The Infinite Madness Mix) (9:29)
2. Perfect (Perfecto Mix) (7:02)
3. Speed Kills (5:17)
4. Hope (3:38)
5. Eye (4:54)
6. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Hallucination's Nu-Wave Batcave Mix) (7:09)
7. Mayonaise (Acoustic) (4:31)
8. Real Love (4:10)
9. Untitled (3:54)
10. Try, Try, Try (Alternate Version) (4:20)
11. Age Of Innocence (Early Version) (4:14)
12. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Rabbit In The Moon's Melancholy & The Infinite Dub) (7:52)

* Track 1: The End Is The Beginning Is The End (The Remixes) CDS (1997)
* Track 2: Perfect (Remixes) CDS (1998)
* Track 3: Stand Inside Your Love CDS (2000)
* Tracks 4-5, 7: Still Becoming Apart (2000)
* Tracks 6, 12: The End Is The Beginning Is The End 12'' Promo (1997)
* Track 8: Greatest Hits (CD1): Rotten Apples (2001)
* Tracks 9-11: Untitled CDS (2001)


Tracklisting (CD9)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Rabbit In The Moon's Infinite Radio Edit) (5:14)
2. Lucky 13 (3:10)
3. Because You Are (3:46)
4. Slow Dawn (3:12)
5. My Mistake (4:00)
6. Here's To The Atom Bomb (4:26)
7. Sparrow (2:56)
8. Waiting (3:48)
9. Saturnine (3:49)
10. Rock On [Essex] (6:06)
11. Winterlong (4:59)
12. Soot & Stars (6:39)
13. Blissed & Gone (4:47)
14. Perfect (Nellee Hooper Instrumental) (4:14)
15. Number Of The Beast [Zwan] (4:18)
16. Freedom Ain't What It Used To Be [Zwan] (4:05)
17. Nobody 'Cept You [Zwan] (4:13)
18. Autumn Leaves [Zwan] (2:21)

* Track 1: The End Is The Beginning Is The End (The Remixes) CDS (1997)
* Tracks 2-13: Greatest Hits (CD2) Judas O (2001)
* Track 14: Perfect (Remixes) CDS (1998)
* Tracks 15-16: Honestly CDS (2003)
* Tracks 17-18: Lyric CDS (2003)


Source
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original CDs/DVDs/Cassettes


Lineage
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CD > FLAC (8)


Compiled By
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
sprdthlv


Additional Info
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bootleg Title : Cessations Of Grandeur
File Type : FLAC
File Size : 4146Mb
Bootleg Length : 652:14 min:sec
Artwork : N/A





Notes
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please don't rename & delete files if re-seeding. Others want the lineage
information, frequency analysis, artwork, etc. Also, it'd be wise that others can
help out with a future re-seed.
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http://i.xanga.com/LiL_kisSes/homer-drool.gif

eh, that's just too much.

and lol @ same version of flac.

four giglebitz. wowie zowie.

I was just checking my SPVC download, and Bullet Train to Osaka isn't working. Anyone else have this problem?

Edit: Scratch that. For some reason there's two Bullet Trains in the folder, and the second one works. Odd.

and lol @ same version of flac.
I sooo know, it's funny huh?

too bad oink tanked today

public it is then....

Does the "Cessations Of Grandeur" torrent still exist? 9 Disks, 4 Gigs!! It looks like it was a GREAT compulation! I would love to download it... Where was the torrent hosted?

Anyway this new compulation is looking great also, where will the torrent be hosted? I think I need an invite to Oink... can some one send me one? Or will it be hosted on Mininova or something similar?

-Star

even an invite won't help you now.
oink was shut down.... :cry:

I wonder why the Cessation of Grandeur *******d some demos, but not others?

even an invite won't help you now.
oink was shut down.... :cry:


Forever? Another torrent site bites the dust?

About Oink....



FUUUCK!!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!!

...ahem..

SO! Yeah, the vinyl rips in the aformentioned torrent were perfect. I decoded all mine to AIFF, so once I re-encode it to FLAC (This isn't a lossy transcode), I'll seed it. If somebody else seeds this first, I may not be able to help, as the FLAC's may end up being a diff. size.

If anybody is still thinking of making a different, new comp. after what The New posted, Puh-leaze.

I can't wait to get this back out there

no no no...
don't re-encode AIFF>FLAC.... !!!!!

You gotta be kidding me T&T

this t&t person is quite some character.

Im down for the Cessations Of Grandeur torrent.

Im down for the Cessations Of Grandeur torrent.

I promise to seed it too...

I can't wait to get this back out there

indeed.

As I said before Wednesday night, when I get my new enclosure, I can set this all up. Expect a .torrent file up on Thursday.

As I said before Wednesday night, when I get my new enclosure, I can set this all up. Expect a .torrent file up on Thursday.

You RAWK!!!!

TY for the clarification. Will be looking on Thursday.

Star

this t&t person is quite some character.
normally you people have a shit fit over re-encoding... lossless or not...
any reason for the double standard?

Yes. Lossless. Read that again ;)

normally you people have a shit fit over re-encoding... lossless or not...
any reason for the double standard?
aiff is uncompressed. you would have to be stupid to seed it like that.

uhg... some people here are slow on the uptake, quick on the insults. makes me cringe when the word "community" is thrown around.



shouldn't we try to get the original torrent going again?
:shrug:

if possible, yeah, sure. i don't think wpc33 still has the original files though.

in my opinion it's not that important though. this compilation is full of cd rips (which i won't download). it's not a live recording you're trying to keep as pure as possible.

Source
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original CDs/DVDs/Cassettes
does this imply that the creator of the torrent transferred/ripped everything himself? it's a very vague source description. could as well mean he just downloaded everything from different sources and re-encoded it to flac...

also: "missing: drown (edit)": isn't this one on rotten apples?

I'm all in for this new torrent. I'll look into getting this on at school Thursday night. That's something like a T3. Would be good for seeding back out.

If it aint up like clockwork, don't nobody hang me. This requires alot of my time.

Never would've guessed.

The buttholes I ordered my new enclosure from are taking forever to get the thing in from across-country. They said Wednesday, now it's Friday. Patience is a virtue...or so I tell myself.

EDIT: I have to work tomorrow 6-6. I might miss the pick-up office. If I do, it could be Monday for god's sake. I'll do my best. That is all. This will happen. God, I feel like Billy.

thanks for the update.

back in 2001 i made a compilation of related artists' songs that SP directly had a hand in called "the family tree of SP"

i gotta find the tracklist but i remember it having fulflej, catherine, big hat, red red meat and some others...

smiley got a copy of that...

Huh. I've never heard this idea before. I'm impressed.

"Marc Chan @ NXSource"
<marc.chan@ncix.net> to me
More options 12:15 pm (4 minutes ago)
Hi Isaiah,


Your order is ready for pick up. Please present the invoice # above upon pick up.


Thanks



** please note - my extension has changed to 2608 **



Marc Chan

Corporate Sales



FINALLY! GOD
I'll have it up soon, now.

is nxsource good?

I must say yes, despite the maybe-my-fault thing where it seemed like the item was in stock, when it ambiguously was in stock on the other side of the country where they're primarily located. I had to wait 9 calendar days to get it. I just hooked it up now.
I'm organizing & encoding the flac's right now. More later.

Sweet. Thanks!

All the Flac's are done. I'm just finishing the md5's right now. Then I'll upload the torrent

All the Flac's are done. I'm just finishing the md5's right now. Then I'll upload the torrent
Awesome. Thanks for this. :)

http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=152181

update: got some papers to write and other things but i am still working on this compilation if anyone is still interested. just have to put it on hold for a while.

SP Remixes Collected
CD2
Perfect Puff Daddy MP Mix
Perfect Puff Daddy Vocal Up Mix
Perfect Puff Daddy Instrumental Mix

do you have these in lossless
(i don't remember if the source was lossless...???)
could you upload them?

all puffy remixes are lossy.

I didn't believe you at first, so I just ripped the three Puffy remixes. They all have a drop just before 16kHz. First track:

<img src=http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/fogelsong/Puffy1.jpg>

puff daddy remixes
http://www.mediafire.com/?fcd3zbsxha0

this is the text file i have with mine
mp3 192kbps (vbr)

SMASHING PUMPKINS
1998
Puff Daddy "Perfect" Remixes
Studio
Virgin In-House CDR > CDR > EAC > Wav > Flac

Set list:

1. Perfect (MP Mix) 4:11
2. Perfect (Vocal Up) 4:11
3. Perfect (Instrumental) 4:11


This was one of two remixes Puff Daddy did for The Smashing Pumpkins back in 1998
(the other being Ava Adore, which has not surfaced).
These remixes were comissioned but never used because apparently Puff Daddy wanted too much money.

In August of 1998, two copies of a Virgin in-house CDR (with dot matrix printed inserts!)
showed up on eBay. I bought one of them. The seller told me he retrieved them from a dumpster
at Virgin Records.

A few years later I sold the original CDR to another collector, but ripped the CD before selling
it. This distribution is sourced from my rip, which is why there is an extra CDR gen in the lineage.

Not the Pumpkins' finest hour, but an interesting curiosity nonetheless.


************************************************** **
Feel free to encode this to MP3, upload to Porntube,
sing it in the shower, whatever.
************************************************** **




i think someone uploaded it here for me a while back....

Did anyone look on t3h hub?

Did anyone look on t3h hub?

all puffy remixes are lossy.
</\>

I'll cry myself to sleep at night from the thought of lossy Puff Daddy.

I'll cry myself to sleep at night from the thought of lossy Puff Daddy.

and I thought I was the only one

fuck i hate to have 200 live or demo versions of ONE song

why are there ppl who want EVERYTHING even if it sounds nearly the same or crappy?

fuck i hate to have 200 live or demo versions of ONE song

why are there ppl who want EVERYTHING even if it sounds nearly the same or crappy?
as a result, do you hate people who want everything? if so, explain how.

puff daddy remixes
http://www.mediafire.com/?fcd3zbsxha0

this is the text file i have with mine
mp3 192kbps (vbr)




i think someone uploaded it here for me a while back....

re-up please?