View Full Version : Those new Apple commercials


Andrew_Pakula
07-15-2002, 02:08 PM
Funny stuff:

"...(the mac os) works the way my brain is supposed to..."

LOL

Mark LeDrew
07-15-2002, 03:34 PM
I don't know why Apple even bothers to advertise anymore. The people who buy their products do so religiously and nobody else cares.

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Andrew_Pakula
07-15-2002, 04:37 PM
Exactly.

The only people I still see using them are people who are into high end photography or video editing and that's all.

relaxor!
07-15-2002, 05:47 PM
Holy fucking shit I hate those commercials. It's everything I hate about corporate advertising rolled into one campaign. I feel this Penny Arcade describes how I feel better than any words ever could:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2002/20020712l.gif

frail_and_bedazzled
07-15-2002, 06:02 PM
i like macs b/c they're easy to operate. i shouldn't be one to talk, though, b/c i don't even own a computer.

Ihaman
07-15-2002, 06:24 PM
macs are just better computers. they have better memory management, they're *nix based (os X at least) they dont crash nearly as often as wintel machines, they look cooler, and they're inexpensive.

the only reason people are so insane with their pc's is because they're so used to using them, so it's hard to switch over.

relaxor!
07-15-2002, 06:29 PM
Yes, I agree. Apple is a better company selling a better product. But this campaign is really, really awful. That's the beef I have with them.

Mark LeDrew
07-15-2002, 06:32 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Ihaman:
macs are just better computers.
they dont crash nearly as often as wintel machines, they look cooler, and they're inexpensive.

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Wrong, wrong, wrong.

"Wintel" machines are not crash happy at all anymore with the advent of Windows 2000 and XP.

That Macs look cooler is debatable and in any case totally irrelevant.

And inexpensive? Nigga please.

Ihaman
07-15-2002, 06:34 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mark LeDrew:
Wrong, wrong, wrong.

"Wintel" machines are not crash happy at all anymore with the advent of Windows 2000 and XP.

That Macs look cooler is debatable and in any case totally irrelevant.

And inexpensive? Nigga please.

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except for the fact that my pc crashes about 3 times a day

yes, inexpensive. try getting me a pc that's equally as good as a new i-mac for cheaper or the same price, chances are you'd only be able to buy the flat panel and the dvd burner before you'd go over budget.

Mark LeDrew
07-15-2002, 06:41 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Ihaman:
except for the fact that my pc crashes about 3 times a day

yes, inexpensive. try getting me a pc that's equally as good as a new i-mac for cheaper or the same price, chances are you'd only be able to buy the flat panel and the dvd burner before you'd go over budget.</font>

Just cuz you don't know how to install an OS or you choose to install buggy software, don't blame that on PCs. And according to the Apple website, the iMac with the DVD burner (which i neither want nor need) is $1,900 bucks. Shit, i could get a damn fine real computer for that price and it wouldn't have a puny 15" monitor or look like a lamp from Captain Picard's ready room.

Andrew_Pakula
07-15-2002, 07:45 PM
True Apple has had a better track record with stable OS's however with XP available that advantage is no longer there. Currently my XP here at home has been running for 78 days without a restart, that's a lot better than the way it used to be on my system of 5 or 6 days with Windows ME or 98.

As for Apple's advertising, theyhave historically been consistent making crappy an ineffective commercials. They need to learn from Dell, get some idiot teen who looks funny to sell their stuff then they'll be rolling in the money.

Ihaman
07-15-2002, 07:49 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Andrew_Pakula:
True Apple has had a better track record with stable OS's however with XP available that advantage is no longer there. Currently my XP here at home has been running for 78 days without a restart, that's a lot better than the way it used to be on my system of 5 or 6 days with Windows ME or 98.

As for Apple's advertising, theyhave historically been consistent making crappy an ineffective commercials. They need to learn from Dell, get some idiot teen who looks funny to sell their stuff then they'll be rolling in the money.</font>

look at volkswagon, they're like the apple of the car world. Hell...the commercials are the same.
their sells have gone up tremendously.
but maybe selling cars is different.

[This message has been edited by Ihaman (edited 07-15-2002).]

PkPhuoko
07-15-2002, 07:55 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mark LeDrew:
Just cuz you don't know how to install an OS or you choose to install buggy software, don't blame that on PCs. And according to the Apple website, the iMac with the DVD burner (which i neither want nor need) is $1,900 bucks. Shit, i could get a damn fine real computer for that price and it wouldn't have a puny 15" monitor or look like a lamp from Captain Picard's ready room.</font>


but you still couldnt multitask for shit. Cubase, wavelab, reason, and pro-tools gonna run in conjunction at the same time on a PC? bwahahahahahahahahah no

PC's are cool because you can upgrade easier and blah blah blah.... you buy a $1200 computer, buy a new sound card, buy a new graphics card, buy more memory, maybe buy a better monitor, buy a dvd burner, etc and you'll end up spending $1900 all together by the time shits done anywho.

Spend $1900 and buy a beefed up dual processor G4 and upgrade absolutely nothing and still have a far more powerfull computer. That's the appeal of a mac.... you buy the shit and pay a little more but your computer remains ahead of the PC curve for quite a while.

funnygeezus
07-15-2002, 08:43 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Ihaman:
macs are just better computers. they have better memory management, they're *nix based (os X at least) they dont crash nearly as often as wintel machines, they look cooler, and they're inexpensive.

the only reason people are so insane with their pc's is because they're so used to using them, so it's hard to switch over.</font>

<font color=slate>if you could say it like penny-arcade, you wouldn't need penny-arcade.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/1999/19990428l.jpg

Mayonaise
07-15-2002, 11:54 PM
I <3 my mac

DeviousJ
07-16-2002, 11:25 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:

but you still couldnt multitask for shit. Cubase, wavelab, reason, and pro-tools gonna run in conjunction at the same time on a PC? bwahahahahahahahahah no

PC's are cool because you can upgrade easier and blah blah blah.... you buy a $1200 computer, buy a new sound card, buy a new graphics card, buy more memory, maybe buy a better monitor, buy a dvd burner, etc and you'll end up spending $1900 all together by the time shits done anywho.

Spend $1900 and buy a beefed up dual processor G4 and upgrade absolutely nothing and still have a far more powerfull computer. That's the appeal of a mac.... you buy the shit and pay a little more but your computer remains ahead of the PC curve for quite a while. </font>

Are you kidding? How do you spend $1200 on a bare-bones computer? You seem to be confused - the appeal of the mac is that you pay more money and get a nice friendly machine that looks pretty.

mpp
07-16-2002, 12:11 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by DeviousJ:
Are you kidding? How do you spend $1200 on a bare-bones computer? You seem to be confused - the appeal of the mac is that you pay more money and get a nice friendly machine that looks pretty.</font>


girls love em

my sister, my ex-girlfriend and my roommate's girlfriend all LOVE their macs

even though they crash all the time

PkPhuoko
07-16-2002, 01:29 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by DeviousJ:
Are you kidding? How do you spend $1200 on a bare-bones computer? </font>


some people use their computer for more than downloading porn, playing games, and trading mp3's likely requiring much more than you are used to.

jenniferkate
07-16-2002, 02:13 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mayonaise:
I <3 my mac</font>

me too. are we the only mac users?


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DeviousJ
07-16-2002, 03:05 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:

some people use their computer for more than downloading porn, playing games, and trading mp3's likely requiring much more than you are used to.</font>

Wow, you sure got me there! You still haven't explained how you rack up a $1200 bill for a case, a mobo, a processor, a psu, a HD, and a CDROM. But then, since you consider multitasking between a few tracker programs to be 'intensive' you'll probably buy anything if it's considered cool enough.

Graveflower
07-16-2002, 03:11 PM
I intend on buying a Mac when I get my own computer.

Affectation
07-16-2002, 03:19 PM
<font color=00ff33>My next computer is going to be a dual G4.

Mark LeDrew
07-16-2002, 05:16 PM
I was just at CompUSA and I decided to check out the Macs for shits and giggles. They had an eMac right next to the new style iMac. I thought that the eMac was actually a very nice little machine for the money. The flat panel display on the iMac was sharp but too small. Plus that thing just looks really retarded. I wouldn't buy a Mac in any case but like i said, the eMac isn't too shabby.

The one Mac product that I really, really do like are their displays. Man, I would trade a kidney for one of those 22" Cinema Displays. Just beautiful.

meow
07-16-2002, 05:19 PM
hmm,.....

Too Dumb to Mean It
07-16-2002, 05:31 PM
I didn't really think Macs had that many good games, but after checking their website I found that most of the games I'm currently playing are on the Mac. I'm more of a casual user--I only use the PC for gaming, word processing, music creation/editing, and the internet. I might have to check out one of the cheaper Mac systems, though.

Boseph
07-16-2002, 05:57 PM
I love my Mac too.

Just a question for Mac users: what program do you use to download music etc? I used to use Aimster but that's gone now, so what is the best program to use?

PkPhuoko
07-16-2002, 06:38 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by DeviousJ:
But then, since you consider multitasking between a few tracker programs to be 'intensive' you'll probably buy anything if it's considered cool enough.</font>
I consider it to be fairly intense considering PC's flat out cannot do it.

sppunk
07-16-2002, 06:42 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Boseph:
I love my Mac too.

Just a question for Mac users: what program do you use to download music etc? I used to use Aimster but that's gone now, so what is the best program to use?</font>

I used to use Limewire, but it tends to suck these days. I just tend not to download music anymore on my G4. By the way, I have a Titanium G4 iBook. Compared to my old IBM ThinkPad.... there is NO comparison. The Titanium is completely kickass. OS X w/ Photoshop and InDesign ownzeth me.

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DeviousJ
07-16-2002, 06:49 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
I consider it to be fairly intense considering PC's flat out cannot do it. </font>

At least you're being honest.

That you have no idea what you're talking about.

PkPhuoko
07-16-2002, 06:53 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by DeviousJ:
At least you're being honest.

That you have no idea what you're talking about.</font>

I'm guessing you've tried this on a PC and a mac and are able to compare?

DeviousJ
07-16-2002, 07:04 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
I'm guessing you've tried this on a PC and a mac and are able to compare?</font>

Look buddy, I've multitasked 3D Studio Max rendering an animation, photoshop, ftp and web browsing with no trouble. You can't even compare a mass-produced line (a Mac) with an arbitrary machine which could have any configuration of harware and software (a PC) - so what are you talking about?

Lie
07-16-2002, 07:07 PM
Conceptually, Macs are better designed computers but they've been marketed all wrong, they're incompatible and a pain in the ass, and therefore useless.

PkPhuoko
07-16-2002, 07:23 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by DeviousJ:
Look buddy, I've multitasked 3D Studio Max rendering an animation, photoshop, ftp and web browsing with no trouble. You can't even compare a mass-produced line (a Mac) with an arbitrary machine which could have any configuration of harware and software (a PC) - so what are you talking about?</font>

because a mac processess information completely different than a PC. 3D Max and Photoshop at the same time with a web browser open*gasp* NO WAY! Congratulations your computer can run what 90% of high school graphics classess run on a daily basis. You need what 256 RAM to pull that one off? Gimmie a break.

Try something that stressess your comp a bit and can flex a bit of muscle.... Cubase with a ton of vsts open and running, using redrum from reason, recording with wave-lab, and editing with pro-tools is a common operation for even bedroom producers and stressess a PC quite a bit. It's practicly impossible to run reason in conjunction with cubase.... most computers either freeze or shut down the programs.


Could you at some point soup your computer up enough to accomplish what a mac does? Yes. But by the time you put in a large chunk of $$$ and are running a gig plus processor with a huge slab of ram you've managed to accomplish what a standard 700 mhz ibook can do.

It's like comparing an RX-7 to a honda accord. Granted you can do a lot more to an accord. You can soup it the fuck up, crank up your horse power, lighten it up all you want, do whatever you want to to make it faster.... but 90% of the time you'll still barely be as good as a standard RX-7.

DeviousJ
07-16-2002, 07:26 PM
Clint, you are a known bullshitter. I have a degree in Computer Science. You have no clue what you're talking about.

PkPhuoko
07-16-2002, 07:38 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by DeviousJ:
Clint, you are a known bullshitter. I have a degree in Computer Science. You have no clue what you're talking about.</font>

wow congratulations... and my girlfriend sitting next to me who works for sony as a 2d/3d graphics designer (currently on planetside) with a degree in industrial/transportation design is laughing at the fact you used 3d max and photoshop to try and show the strength of a PC in comparison to a MAC.

PS: they give away computer science degrees in family size boxes of frosted flakes.

DeviousJ
07-16-2002, 07:48 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
wow congratulations... and my girlfriend sitting next to me who works for sony as a 2d/3d graphics designer (currently on planetside) with a degree in industrial/transportation design is laughing at the fact you used 3d max and photoshop to try and show the strength of a PC in comparison to a MAC.

PS: they give away computer science degrees in family size boxes of frosted flakes.</font>

That's ok man, I work with graphic designers - they know nothing about the machines they work on, they just get on with designing. But hey - you can always impress her with your knowledge of computer architecture and processing threads! Or run the demo files you got with Cubase, whichever

PkPhuoko
07-16-2002, 07:49 PM
oh devious j you make my belleh tingle!

Affectation
07-16-2002, 07:50 PM
<font color=00ff33>Sure you have girlfriend, Cunt.

My god, you are seriously the biggest fuckup that I know. Why don't you spout a few more lies, loser?

PkPhuoko
07-16-2002, 07:55 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Affectation:
Sure you have girlfriend, Cunt.
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didnt someone make this post about you last week?

Affectation
07-16-2002, 07:59 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
didnt someone make this post about you last week?

</font><font color=00ff33>Good one. Did your imaginary graphics designer think that one up? By the way, how do you have so much time to spin whac shit when you're all wrapped up in your hazardous, and extremely top secret military electrical engineering?

Graveflower
07-16-2002, 08:07 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Affectation:
<font color=00ff33>Good one. Did your imaginary graphics designer think that one up? By the way, how do you have so much time to spin whac shit when you're all wrapped up in your hazardous, and extremely top secret military electrical engineering?</font>

NegativeSleep
07-16-2002, 08:36 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
you buy a $1200 computer, buy a new sound card, buy a new graphics card, buy more memory, maybe buy a better monitor, buy a dvd burner, etc and you'll end up spending $1900 all together by the time shits done anywho.
</font>

<FONT COLOR="gray">Where are you quoting these prices from? I made myself a rig with some of the latest quality components, and ended up paying slightly over the price of your bare-bones system, and that's in CDN too.

(of course, a lot of my stuff was OEM, so I had to hunt down documentation and extra parts on my own, but the opportunity cost was virtually negligible)



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then goes home crying to his mama"
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PkPhuoko
07-16-2002, 09:00 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Affectation:
Good one. Did your imaginary graphics designer think that one up? By the way, how do you have so much time to spin whac shit when you're all wrapped up in your hazardous, and extremely top secret military electrical engineering?</font>

the same way you're such a winner in comparison to everyone on this board in real life, yet spend twice the time here as everyone else.... well expcept julio.

Affectation
07-16-2002, 09:32 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
the same way you're such a winner in comparison to everyone on this board in real life, yet spend twice the time here as everyone else.... well expcept julio.</font>
<font color=00ff33>Ok, you fucked up pathological Liar.

Mark LeDrew
07-16-2002, 09:58 PM
Wow, I never thought this thread would become so contentious. I blame it on Steve Jobs. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif

THRILLHO
07-16-2002, 10:22 PM
i believe musicians use macs (and they all do) because of their zero latency rate, what with USB and all. only a musician would need it for that. and, oh yeah, pro tools

doesn't mean they're better all-purpose machines. they're still goddamn expensive.

Andrew_Pakula
07-18-2002, 01:54 AM
http://www.zerokarma.com/applecommercial.jpg

Ihaman
07-18-2002, 02:46 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
wow congratulations... and my girlfriend sitting next to me who works for sony as a 2d/3d graphics designer (currently on planetside) with a degree in industrial/transportation design is laughing at the fact you used 3d max and photoshop to try and show the strength of a PC in comparison to a MAC.

PS: they give away computer science degrees in family size boxes of frosted flakes.</font>

you should tell her to give me a job (i really need one)

Ihaman
07-18-2002, 05:15 AM
http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/346.gif