Hey kids;

Just a random question. Only cuz I'm listening to an old Arising! Bootleg right now. Maybe you heard it as a single on the radio, or a bootleg, or MACHINA or maybe you were lucky enough to hear it on an Arising! show. 'sides, its relatively fresh in everyone's memory as opposed to "Disarm" or "Today" or "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"

As for me, the first time I heard it was around mid- '99, I think. When I downloaded the Detroit bootleg of the first Arising show ("Welcome Back Jimmy" bootleg is what I think its called) off some website and it was the first full Pumpkins bootleg I had ever heard. At the time to me they were new songs which ended up on MACHINA (which is probably why I have a soft spot for the album that most people hate.) But, of all the MACHINA tunes they played the one that stood out the most was "Stand Inside Your Love". It was great, even though I thought Billy was saying "You always hate the one you love" for some reason. Say what you will about MACHINA being self-indulgent and pretty lame, but I still think "Stand Inside Your Love" is one of the better Pumpkins songs. (and will probably win the MACHINA Survivor, I'm thinkin')

But, yeah, when / how did y'all first hear it and did you like it or hate it or did you opinion change over time?


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i discovered the smashing pumpkins really late, so it was actually the song that got me hooked. obviously i had heard them before, but i didn't think much of them then because my tastes in music were so awful. i can't remember actually when and where i first heard it, but i think it was on the radio prior to the release of machina. after that i downloaded "siamese dream" and then there was no turning back. so, i have very fond memories of this song, and i still think it is one of their all-time best. definitely my favourite off of machina.

I think it had to be the Spreckels show. Then the next night again at the Roxy. By then I loved it. I remember the morning after the Roxy I woke up with it in my head. I liked the Arising version of it the best. It had a really cool, desperate sound that got lost after they cut it for the record.

I am a late-comer. I only got into the Pumpkins around about October of 2001. The first time I heard Stand Inside Your Love was on Rotten Apples. I just kinda went "eh" but later on it grew to be one of my favorite Smashing Pumpkins songs.

The lyrics just own me...probably more than any other song from that era. It has a desperate, clinging feeling that I like in songs. It's dramatic and carries a very heavy meaning. Great song.

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I had just seen the 120 min premiere of The Everlasting Gaze (maybe... a week or 2 after I bought MCIS, so a month after I bought SD) and the rock station announced that they had a new SP track to play. I turned it up and it must have been SIYL, i didn't really remember it all that well except that is was really... good.

For awhile I was contending that it was the best SP single, but I'm not so sure anymore.

Maybe Nidhogg will clear that up?

PauL

For me it was April 1999... downloaded from that site... you know the one. I forget what it was called. The site had ads on it for fireworks. Heh.

I loved the song, and "tell me where you are" was also one of my favorites from the 4/10/99 soundcheck (I found out a few days later that he was actually singing "everywhere you are", and that the song was called Virex). Those two songs seemed oddly familiar... I guess it was just the classic Pumpkin sound.

So I burned my first CDR ever... it was a mix disc with all the new songs. It had the 10 or so from the Arising shows, plus LMGTWTY and ITIAG. And probably Lover, also. I must have listened to that disc a million times in 1999.

I also have fond memories of when a friend of mine first heard the Machina version of SIYL. She didn't wanna hear Machina until it came out, but I insisted... so she let me play SIYL for her.

Cool topic.

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I first heard it at the Roxy Arising! show, but it didn't quite catch my attention so much then. When Billy and James played at their accoustic show at the Shorline for the Bridge School Benefit is when I really fell in love with that song. Really, pop in your 10/30/99 bootleg and take a listen; that acoustic version is really great.

The day after I bought Machina.

Sitting in my apartment.

Thinking that he stole something that I used to say. "You're my forever." Misheard.

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Affect:
The day after I bought Machina.

Sitting in my apartment.

Thinking that he stole something that I used to say. "You're my forever." Misheard. Ego deflated. just briefly.</font>



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spreckels 99 in san diego. i loved the entire show...i loved the new material but its really hard listening to the words and the music when its really loud and everybodys screaming. so then i get the 930 club show on cd a couple of days later but i listened to "with every light" most of the time because i was feeling that song the most. i did listen to SIYL as well and i really liked it but like i said "too much crowd interference". i understood the meaning of the song and the emotions it gave me...its a classic pumpkin tune and it gives me happy tears.

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I downloaded it off that site too. But I never payed much attention to it. Then when I heard it on politically incorrect, I was like, "bad choice for a single". PI was the first time I really listened to it. I didnt think it was that great at all. rather flat. Then when the album came out, and the video, I fell in love with it, and it hit me. When I relistened to arising shows and rewatched PI, I was really into it. Thats my SIYL story. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif

First time i heard it (live from Arizing Tour) : HUmm excelent, it sounds awesome, i can't wait to hear the studio track.

Studio track : Oh no, what happened, it's too slow. damn you Billy....

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First time? The infamous EGO mp3s from the Machina Promo.

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when i heard the arising version; i knew it would be a single. that was my very first thought.

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<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by snickerdoodles:


</font>More heartbroken.

I got into the Pumpkins rather late too...better late than never I suppose. I first heard SIYL on VH1 Storytellers, I believe...I at least got to go to that final UC show though...

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the first time i heard it was on politically incorrect. i was spending the nite at my friend's house and we stayed up really late to record the show (after the super bowl). i couldnt really listen to it that nite because we had the volume off so we wouldnt wake up his parents. but the next day when i got home from school i watched that video and loved it. i ended up watching it like every day when i got home from school until the cd came out.

I heard it on Politically Incorrect and I knew I was going to like it when I heard it more.

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The day after the first arising show I think MP3's were already up. So I burned those and it was one of my favorites. I didn't download the Machina promo when it was available, except for Everlasting Gaze because I had already listened to it when they played it on q101's online station. But then somebody (sebastian boschert?) put it up and I got it. And it was goood.

Um, I think on the radio. Pretty sure. If not there, than on Machina. I don't really remember.

The thing that really struck me was that everyone was talking about the video. I'd heard the song, but I didn't have cable at the time, so I...I really don't rememebr the first time i saw the video. (I drink too much.) I just remeber that I really liked it and thought that people who didn't like it/get it were really young and immature.

i heard the live version sometime in april 99. i thought it wasn't very exciting.

i heard the studio version around the 15th of january, 2000. i also thought it wasn't very exciting.

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Gooch:
Then when I heard it on politically incorrect, I was like, "bad choice for a single". PI was the first time I really listened to it. I didnt think it was that great at all. rather flat. </font>

Man. The sound for PI was so bad. Everything sounded awful. Man. Everything was awful, even the camarawork.

Someone mentioned this, but for ages I thought it was "Tell me where you are," too. I scratched my head when I finally found out it was "Its everywhere you are."

I also remember listening to Speed Kills like a thousand times. I couldn't get over the intro and that great fucking effect on the guitar.

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by CandyPotter:

I also remember listening to Speed Kills like a thousand times. I couldn't get over the intro and that great fucking effect on the guitar.</font>

personally, I love that riff that opens Speed Kills. On that Arising bootleg I have, my 3 favorite "new" songs were Speed Kills and Stand Inside Your Love and (heh) "The Ghost Children" (c'mon! we thought it was 2 different songs back then, remember?)

They totally dog-fucked Speed Kills on the SIYL single. MACHINA II version sounds good.

And, this is just personally but i can't really tell much of a difference between SIYL from the Arising bootlegs and the studio track.

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[This message has been edited by Ugly (edited 08-30-2002).]

Speed Kills is way better on the SIYL single than from the Arising! tour. the M2 version of it is good though.

i was in my car on my way to work when i heard it for the first time on stupid Q101. i cried and thought "this is fucking beautiful" and "i wish billy was my significant other". http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/redface.gif

and then i remember thinking "this is the most perfect love song EVER!"

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first heard siyl this year, instantly fell in love with it; now my favourite machina song.
Not that impressed with the clip though.

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Oblivious:

and then i remember thinking "this is the most perfect love song EVER!"
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<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by andysong:
first heard siyl this year, instantly fell in love with it; now my favourite machina song.
Not that impressed with the clip though.</font>

Completely agreed.

The video just doesn't do it for me. It's too complicated a story to put into a music video. I think it was overly arty, if you will, probably as a result of a change in directors from John and Val (the best)to Wiz.

I hear Billy on the DVD talking about how the Stand Inside Your Love video is so georgous and wonderful, et cetra, and so many people on the boards talking about how it's great and all...but I just don't see it. I don't think it was "excecuted" very well. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif

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Swillin' down them cans o' swine

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<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Nidhogg:
Completely agreed.

The video just doesn't do it for me. It's too complicated a story to put into a music video. I think it was overly arty, if you will, probably as a result of a change in directors from John and Val (the best)to Wiz.

I hear Billy on the DVD talking about how the Stand Inside Your Love video is so georgous and wonderful, et cetra, and so many people on the boards talking about how it's great and all...but I just don't see it. I don't think it was "excecuted" very well. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif

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one of my main qualms with this video is the way james is portrayed while using an e-bow, his movements seem so stiff/rigid, just seemed to me like james wasn't really into this clip.

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I heard it on the radio and went "eh." It really grew on me though, and now I think its excellent.