Hey Hey, just found the artwork and tracklising for That's The Way. Sorry if this already been posted, just thought you might be interested. Looks cool

http://www.therecordshack.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=smashing+pumpkins+the+way&categories_id=

Cheers x

:rofl:

oh my god if that artwork turns out to be true that'll be hilarious! this band will be a laughing stock by the end of 07.

daydream is a b-side??
if it's the same daydream, i'm guessing it would be re-recorded...... hm. or maybe the live version played earlier this year. interesting.

oh jesus.

well there's the lossless stellar everyone was clamoring for, right?

i was hoping for a netphorian family photo to be the cover, dayymm grim reaper!

the artwork isnt bad. thats actually one of my favorite images in the Z book. but does it really fit the song?

am i the only person who thinks it's odd that they'd release a song from Gish as a b-side. A song from Gish that happens to be sung by an ex-member, no less? Seems to me like a big Fuck You to D'arcy.

oh yeah, i don't mind the artwork picture for what it is, it's pretty cool. but for this song? :rofl:

reminds me of the jaba dude in the siyl vid.

^maybe its the citadel spandau version

am i the only person who thinks it's odd that they'd release a song from Gish as a b-side. A song from Gish that happens to be sung by an ex-member, no less? Seems to me like a big Fuck You to D'arcy.
no, lots of people were talking about this when we first heard the track listing over a week ago.

am i the only person who thinks it's odd that they'd release a song from Gish as a b-side. A song from Gish that happens to be sung by an ex-member, no less? Seems to me like a big Fuck You to D'arcy.

yeah agree, how many reviewers/djs will actually pick up on it though - I mean if its not in a press release or promo info

I think a better choice would have been the shot of the "SP Funeral". Out of all of them it's my favorite because they were clearly making fun of themselves.

no, lots of people were talking about this when we first heard the track listing over a week ago.

yea, skipgo, GOD!

so do we really think it's the actual cover? and not just some website deciding to use a promo shot and put it up early. my first instinct was it can't possibly be real.....i dunno now.

they did with zeitgeist, some used the flag, some used the new SP heart.

well there's the lossless stellar everyone was clamoring for, right?
aye aye, sir!

Concerning the artwork; Does this cover not perfectly describe the difference between classic pumpkins and what we have now? the hand drawings, crayons, nostalgic photos, found materials and collages vs a studio set, costumes and actors? pisces iscariot v judas o = home demos v studio production. billy needs to move back into that fucking garage

concerning daydream; billy's rule for not re-recording... i am sure this is that acoustic paris rendition. still sort of weak though, why not release one of the remaining studio tracks?

so do we really think it's the actual cover? and not just some website deciding to use a promo shot and put it up early. my first instinct was it can't possibly be real.....i dunno now.

they did with zeitgeist, some used the flag, some used the new SP heart.
it doesn't look like a picture they just found somewhere and used for this release for now, since it has the song title and all. i don't think any website using some random picture as a temporary artwork placeholder would go through the effort of adding this themselves.
on top of that, this specific picture hasn't been out before. correct me if i'm wrong, but i personally have never seen it.
also, it doesn't look as crappy as the flag cover for the tarantula promo cd, so i doubt this is the artwork for the promo.
my guess is that this is real.

http://www.therecordshack.co.uk/images/Smashing%20pumpkins%20thats%20the%20way.jpg

concerning daydream; billy's rule for not re-recording... i am sure this is that acoustic paris rendition. still sort of weak though, why not release one of the remaining studio tracks?
unfortunatley that rule went out along with darcy in the machina era.

heavy metal machine, try, if there is a god, speed kills, glass's theme, age of innocence etc.

i miss the random billy/james doodles for covers

billy's rule for not re-recording...
could someone please repeat this "rule" for me, because i don't think i ever got it.

i mean, he re-recorded i am one and tristessa for gish, siva for peel sessions, and there are plenty of other re-recorded songs to be used on albums or as b-sides.
maybe people misread this "rule" in the pisces iscariot liner notes? maybe he meant something else, something a lot less strict than "never re-record a song"?

yea, skipgo, GOD!
well i didn't SEEEEEE that!! hmph!

unfortunatley that rule went out along with darcy in the machina era.

heavy metal machine, try, if there is a god, speed kills, glass's theme, age of innocence etc.


i see what you mean but he's always done more than one version, the difference is that he records them as one project (hes spoken about how many versions of bwbw, silverfuck, most tracks it seems, have ben commited to tape - how awesome would it be for a special editions with a disc of alternate versions of SD and MCIS). I get the impression that after he closes the book on a chapter, he doesn't return to a given track (ie why starla was not on SD, according to the PI liner notes.

what he meant was after the gish re-records, he swore to himself never to re-record a song again, because it is lame to do so. so from then on, they only released one "recorded studio" version of each song. they might demo a few different versions, but they would only release one. so that rule applied from around 1992-1999.

if it is in fact the secret gig version, i agree that's kinda weak. But a re-recorded version is really like a way of saying that d'arcy never really mattered. First there's the bass in the coffin, now this? ouch. maybe i'm reading too much into it. Maybe he wrote a whole new song called Daydream. Ok, i doubt that, but y'never know. At any rate, an interesting choice for a b-side. I certainly would've preferred one of the new songs or some studio outtakes that are NEW, though. :(

I get the impression that after he closes the book on a chapter, he doesn't return to a given track (ie why starla was not on SD, according to the PI liner notes.
you mean like how he didn't return to set the ray to jerry, or meladori magpie?

any declaration billy makes has to be taken with a grain of salt, don't you all agree? just because he made a "rule" way back when, doesn't mean he's going to stick to it now. He's the king of changed minds and broken promises.

correct me if i'm wrong, but i personally have never seen it.
also, it doesn't look as crappy as the flag cover for the tarantula promo cd, so i doubt this is the artwork for the promo.
my guess is that this is real.



so this <i>isn't</i> one of the music garage pictures? because i definitely remember seeing something that looks exactly like this. or maybe the reapers hand was pointed <i>straight</i> out.

He's the king of changed minds and broken promises.

just like my father...

you mean like how he didn't return to set the ray to jerry, or meladori magpie?
not really, because starla was on i am one before SD was released. so to put it on SD would be to have either re-recorded an old song or put an old song out again pretending to be new. (like bands do with lead singles from 1st EP's that carry onto their first albums)

STRTJ and magpie were in the huge shortlist for MCIS, but didn't make the cut, so came out AFTER as b-sides.

this "rule" only reffered to RELEASED tracks, not demo/studio/live unreleased stuff. they did many versions that weren't released officially, as you know.

edit - read over it again, saw that you might have been referring to those particular songs as they were written/demo-ed during "SD" era. but even so, the rule doesn't apply until something is officially released.

you mean like how he didn't return to set the ray to jerry, or meladori magpie?

hey man i'm just quoting billy... i should know better than that by now :noway:

this "rule" only reffered to RELEASED tracks, not demo/studio/live unreleased stuff. they did many versions that weren't released officially, as you know.
if you read the "rule", it never mentions released or unreleased. i think it is about re-recording, which is declared "lame" in se.
i agree it doesn't apply to demos or live recordings.

so this <i>isn't</i> one of the music garage pictures?

or maybe the reapers hand was pointed <i>straight</i> out.
- no
- exactly

lord... you guys are too much sometimes.

The art and the song title are so conflicting, I like it.

if you read the "rule", it never mentions released or unreleased. i think it is about re-recording, which is declared "lame" in se.
i agree it doesn't apply to demos or live recordings.
yeah but the "rule" was hardly a grammatically refined public declaration of a promise, it was just billy pouring out his thoughts.

it is meant to be in reference to released songs. each song gets one proper "release". basically he didn't want to release new versions of old released tracks anymore.

so. if you were d'arcy, sitting at home on the horse ranch or whatever, and you somehow got your hands on a copy of this disc, and lo and behold!, there's daydream on there! So you pop the disc in the player, just to hear billy's voice instead of your own... what would you think? How would you take this? Would you consider it a personal remark about how billy feels about you and your time in the band? Or would you not give a shit either way? I'm just curious how others would view this, since I notice throughout the threads about this (which i've now seen, :)) that no one really seems to think much of this aspect of it besides myself.

i don't think darcy really cares anymore. i don't know if i would in her position anyway. to me, and i think to her, the real SP has been gone. it was a period of time '88-'99, and i think whatever happens from now on she's not going to bother about too much.

talk about sucking dick

you're probably right, insofar as the band is concerned. But as far as just the working relationship of people that fell apart, I would imagine there still might be some emotion involved there. Of course, there's been a lot of water under the bridge, but I know that I would at least be a little bothered by it, thinking that perhaps my former friend was taking an unprovoked stab at me. Actually, if that IS what billy's doing (and it may well not be), it's pretty immature, much in the same vein as the infamous anti-iha blog post. But then again, maybe it's completely innocent, maybe he just really liked the live version of the song and wanted to put it out there.

Fuck it, from now on i'm judging all songs by all bands by DANCEFLOOR-FILLING QUOTIANT (DFQ)


skipgo - though i would normally side with you, somehow this strikes me differently... its such an underappreciated, dusty old track and i was surprised and very impressed with the fresh take on it. in this way it doesn't seem like a slight on d'arcy.

skipgo - though i would normally side with you, somehow this strikes me differently... its such an underappreciated, dusty old track and i was surprised and very impressed with the fresh take on it. in this way it doesn't seem like a slight on d'arcy.

i hope you're right, and i'm going to try and look at it from this point of view. otherwise it just seems nasty and unneccesary, and I don't want my opinion of billy to take a dive.

its not like anyone but a fan would find this in a record store anyways.

so whatever.

but I know that I would at least be a little bothered by it, thinking that perhaps my former friend was taking an unprovoked stab at me. Actually, if that IS what billy's doing (and it may well not be), it's pretty immature, much in the same vein as the infamous anti-iha blog post. But then again, maybe it's completely innocent, maybe he just really liked the live version of the song and wanted to put it out there.
i was disappointed that billy chose this out of the entire back catalogue of released/unreleased SP material to choose from. i mean don't get me wrong, i love d the '07 live version, but with all of billy's talk about respecting the old pumpkins, not playing any SP with zwan or TFE, not mentioning the james blog thing until so many years later, the way he talked about the differences between the members of SP and zwan.....surely it wouldn't be that hard for him to ignore, if even only for the first album tour any song with an overly distinct darcy or james precence, especially vocals.

if he hadn't played daydream this year no-one would be complaining saying "OMG what the fuck why isn't he playing daydream or anything!!!11!1" he could have just as easily pulled out suffer, or glynis, or blue, or obscured, or fucking anything out of 90% of SP's material.

maybe he didn't think about the darcy thing, but i find that hard to believe. so yeah, i think he did think about it and went ahead anyway with whatever motive, reasonable/respectable or not.

Oh, please tell me this is a joke. What a horrible album cover for a love song. Put this pic on a cover for one of the more political Zeit songs. Can't the record company intercede and tell Billy he's gone a bit nuts?

Oh, please tell me this is a joke. What a horrible album cover for a love song. Put this pic on a cover for one of the more political Zeit songs. Can't the record company intercede and tell Billy he's gone a bit nuts?

agreed

these last two posts are exactly the reason he's doing it, i'd imagine.

I can confirm at this time that it is indeed the cover and tracklisting for the single.

excellent.

these last two posts are exactly the reason he's doing it, i'd imagine.
because billy's gone a bit nuts?

A) who the fuck cares what the album cover on a SINGLE looks like? certainly not the record label, seeing as though the sales of a particular single don't really amount to anything as far as the big picture

B) why are we quoting some obsucre "rule" that Billy stated years ago as if it were some kind of federal law

c) Is that really the way Billy's love is?

d) What would Fysche say about the cover?

e) Billy can do whatever he wants with his songs.

because billy's gone a bit nuts?

No.

Because he knows bitches like you and other posters on here will cry about how it's not 'safe' Get over it.

if they're gonna redo an old song i wish it would have been the piano version of crush. doing daydream really does seem like a spit on the face to darcy. maybe they should do The Boy as well.

i miss the word "the" in front of smashing pumpkins

doing daydream really does seem like a spit on the face to darcy.

who gives a fuck.. all she did was sing it, Billy wrote the fucking song.

who gives a fuck.. all she did was sing it, Billy wrote the fucking song.
and who gives a fuck about james playing in the band? all he did was play the guitar, billy wrote the fucking songs.

:rolleyes:

No, I agree with SPFission. It seems like Daydream was a personal song for Billy... it definitely makes me bawl now and then. I think the fact that D'arcy is singing on Gish was probably an afterthought (I have no evidence to back this up, so don't ask). It's Billy's song... he has every right to do what he wants with it.

Maybe he thinks it fits in with the rest of the songs and didn't want to just have two songs on the single (I know, that's pushing it... I'm just trying to be understanding. haha)

As for the art, I love it, but nooot for this song :erm:

It doesn't matter about the cover not fitting the song. They had Paris Hilton on the cover of a song about spiders.

true.

who gives a fuck.. all she did was sing it, Billy wrote the fucking song.

yeah, but it's pretty likely that most people associate this song with d'arcy though. Until pi came out with Blew Away, it was the only song billy didn't sing on (i think...unless i'm fogetting some obscure song here). If billy re-releases the song without her vocals, it could be seen as him saying "ya, fuck you, we never needed you in the first place". Which of course, some will argue that this is true anyway. But the only point i was making about it is that if he IS doing that, it's pretty juvenile of him. Even if that wasn't his intention, surely it would have occurred to him that it could be seen this way. And as I mentioned before, if you put that together with the photo of her bass in the coffin, it's pretty clearly a stab at her.

"oh who cares, fucking d'arcy didn't contribute to the band!"
right, but she's still a person with feelings right? Is it necessary to take these jabs at her just because of shit that went down 7 or 8 years ago?

oh, and i know billy can do whatever he wants with his songs, i'm not debating that. i'm just wondering if he had any ulterior motives or not, and whether he thought (or cared) about how d'arcy might have felt about it. In the end, i don't really care one way or another, but i think it's interesting to discuss.

I doubt D'arcy knows anything about the reunion except that there is one. I reeeaaally doubt it.

ugh... Artwork gets worse it seems, fuckem i'll just find a download of whatever version of daydream it is, instead of a purchase... I'm not off to a record shop to pick that up. Roll on the live dvd and gossamer at the end of the year.

I doubt D'arcy knows anything about the reunion except that there is one. I reeeaaally doubt it.
i often wonder if james & darcy (because didn't she drop the apostrophe?) do when they hear about SP of BC... do the roll their eyes or shake their fists?

you may be right adore, but i know that if i were in a band that was so hugely successful, and was obviously an enormous part of my life at one point, I'd be keeping tabs on them. Kinda like, my ex-husband just added me on myspace. I haven't talked to or seen him in 12 or 13 years. And as much as i dislike the guy, I still read his page and looked at the photos with much interest. I mean, I was MARRIED to the guy, it's interesting to know what's going on with him now, even though i have no desire to ever be a part of his life again. And being in a band like this is similar to being married...

maybe they should do The Boy as well.

that's not even the same. :rolleyes:

you've got a good point. Maybe you're right.

skipgo's exhusband is kenny aranoff

shhh! i try to keep that on th' downlow whatcolor!

maybe he should have put a vinyl copy of Gish in the coffin next to D'arcy's bass

I can see james doing that. where he checks out the sp page, papers and even netphoria and snickers at what's going on but is totally interested. But I don't think Darcy would be like that. I honestly think she doesn't care at all and has no slight idea what is going on. If the daydream track is billy's acoustic version, I would not feel that he's done anything to piss darcy off intentionally. Billy can be an asshole but I don't think that is a asshole move at all.
the cover is another story...with all the bad artwork starting from the beginning, its almost not surprising.

even though i have no desire to ever be a part of his life again.


i've never been married, but if you want nothing to do with him, why involve yourself in anything remotely associated with him? i had a very loooonng relationship that was so fucking poison to me that i had to cut everything off period. i kept reading her stuff and looking at her pictures for a while as well, but i finally got to a point where i couldn't subject myself to it anymore. i haven't looked into <i>anything</i> of hers for quite some time, and it's been wonderful.

as for d'arcy... different story. if i were her, i'd be pissed. i'd be really pissed. because that version of the song has become classic pumpkins, and for billy to go and fuck with it in any form is pretty rude.

like... rudest-man-in-rock rude?

i've never been married, but if you want nothing to do with him, why involve yourself in anything remotely associated with him? i had a very loooonng relationship that was so fucking poison to me that i had to cut everything off period. i kept reading her stuff and looking at her pictures for a while as well, but i finally got to a point where i couldn't subject myself to it anymore. i haven't looked into <i>anything</i> of hers for quite some time, and it's been wonderful.




only because we've been apart since 1993 (big reason for soma and silverfuck meaning so much to me when SD came out), so I'm so very very over it. I don't have any feelings for him besides curiousity about what he's been doing all these years. Plus, I've been with my current husband for 11 years now, and we're still very solid, so there's no way that moron from my past could have any affect on me now. I do find it intensely funny that he gained so much weight!! :D

understood. :) carry on.

I can confirm at this time that it is indeed the cover and tracklisting for the single.

Can you confirm whether it is a live recording of Daydream or a new studio version?

i had a very loooonng relationship that was so fucking poison to me that i had to cut everything off period.
you are probably aware that not all relationships are poison, and sometimes relationships just end because they've ran their course. But I hear you... one long term relationship I had, I still talk to him occationally, a "happy bithday" email, a "hey, I got a new job" email ... and the other LTR I had was indeed poison, so no, I have no contact with that motherfucker. hahaha.

To relate this all back to SP- the parting of ways with James & Darcy didn't seem to be to friendly... but I guess none of us have anyway of knowing how the two x-members really feel on the whole thing.

and i agree with skipgo that being in a band is kinda like being married. my brother feels like he has 4 girlfirends- the 4 other members in his band, they all have different needs, wants... they whine and cry... and when the disbanded for a while (it was supposed to be forever, but it wasn't) he took it really hard.

I do find it intensely funny that he gained so much weight!! :D
i love it when that happens! HA!

you are probably aware that not all relationships are poison, and sometimes relationships just end because they've ran their course.

uh, yeeeaah. i'm aware of how these things work. i'm in a great relationship right now that isn't the least bit poison.

ok girls, relationship talk time is over. let's get back to business

like... rudest-man-in-rock rude?
if you think billy corgan is the rudest man in "rock" you need to get out more. theres about 200 mainstream artists that are bigger assholes than corgan. he's tame.

well, that's the way (my love is), whatcolor.

if you think billy corgan is the rudest man in "rock" you need to get out more. theres about 200 mainstream artists that are bigger assholes than corgan. he's tame.

let's talk gallagher brothers...

i wish they'd put the blond kids out on something. like a poster. that shits creepy. and that is a pretty heavy looking cover for a lovey song. but its sweet.



oh and trev, on page one you used two rofl smileys. thats quite enough sir.

i thought your love was the other way. i guess i got the wrong impression, or that your love is pretty flexible. obviously, it's none of my business and feel free to ignore it, im just sharing my impressions

I doubt D'arcy knows anything about the reunion except that there is one. I reeeaaally doubt it.
because you know her so well and have been a fan since the begining right?

i mentioned it a while ago, but my love does in fact go both ways. i'm just in love with someone who happens to be a boy.

oh and trev, on page one you used two rofl smileys. thats quite enough sir.
sorry, ran out of patches this week. i'll try and restrain myself.

but...you saw the cover....cmon...

let's talk gallagher brothers...
thats a start. lets talk Phil Anselmo, half of metalica, kurt cobain, fuck theres tons worse.

sorry, ran out of patches this week. i'll try and restrain myself.

but...you saw the cover....cmon...
i saw the picture when they leaked, when i bought the cd, and when i went to that link. i like it, its different, its not a drawing or artsy shit we've seen him do even since mcis. its in the vain of the album.

the only problem i have with it, is that it would have been better suited for tarantula or maybe the doomsday clock promo.


better yet, this single should have been the one to have the paris cover.


and by patches do you mean nicotine patches? or is this some aussie slang im dumb to?

whew, the gallagher brothers, now there's a pair of wankers. i believe they're right there at the top of the 'asshole rockstar' pile.
which part of metallica? jason newstead seems like a pretty decent guy. lars, not so much. someone put a fucking sock in that guy's mouth please. i guess jason's not even in metallica now, so nevermind.

billy.... i don't know. i think he's a nice guy at heart who lets his emotions get the best of him and he doesn't always handle himself well socially.

better yet, this single should have been the one to have the paris cover.



AGREED. if tarantula and that's the way had been flipped flopped, it would have been awesome.

whew, the gallagher brothers, now there's a pair of wankers. i believe they're right there at the top of the 'asshole rockstar' pile.
which part of metallica? jason newstead seems like a pretty decent guy. lars, not so much. someone put a fucking sock in that guy's mouth please. i guess jason's not even in metallica now, so nevermind.

billy.... i don't know. i think he's a nice guy at heart who lets his emotions get the best of him and he doesn't always handle himself well socially.
james and lars.

with your link, andrew_pakula doesn't get any of the action, use elvis's link to help netphoria

andrew pakula wants some of that action?

and who gives a fuck about james playing in the band? all he did was play the guitar, billy wrote the fucking songs.


bitch moan bitch moan bitch moan bitch moan. it gets a bit repetitive after a while.

I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but I agree. Who does give a fuck about James? I sure as hell don't.

Also, why should I care about someone who doesn't even want to be in the band?

james and lars.
ahh, who can forget that whole NAPSTER thing.

i think this should be used for the album cover:

<img src=http://thesuperficial.com/2007/08/jenna-jameson-celebrity-catwalk-00.jpg>

it would be awesome if the b-side daydream was studio billy.
remember when we all wanted to hear the 1991 demo of the song w/o darcy? i remember that.

it would be awesome if the b-side daydream was studio billy.
remember when we all wanted to hear the 1991 demo of the song w/o darcy? i remember that.

no kidding. but trev wouldn't want this to happen since it might hurt Darcy's feelings.

trev's a sensitive guy, dude.

no kidding. but trev wouldn't want this to happen since it might hurt Darcy's feelings.

:rofl:

no kidding. but trev wouldn't want this to happen since it might hurt Darcy's feelings.<fuck pakula>
i don't think darcy really cares anymore. i don't know if i would in her position anyway. to me, and i think to her, the real SP has been gone. it was a period of time '88-'99, and i think whatever happens from now on she's not going to bother about too much.

am i the only person who thinks it's odd that they'd release a song from Gish as a b-side. A song from Gish that happens to be sung by an ex-member, no less? Seems to me like a big Fuck You to D'arcy.

No, you're not the only one. It's very odd. My guess is that it's a new live version.

http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=148245

i think spfission might have meant to insult me instead of trev :)
i'm the one who's all worried about d'arcy's poor little feelings.

but hey, that doesn't mean i don't wanna hear this new daydream!

am i the only person who thinks it's odd that they'd release a song from Gish as a b-side. A song from Gish that happens to be sung by an ex-member, no less? Seems to me like a big Fuck You to D'arcy.
it says non-album track. so i'm kinda thinking it may be from the acoustic gig or something

there's a picture in the zeitgeist cover of d'arcy's old bass in a coffin?!

Why does Garski hate me so much in this thread?

I love you, Garski.

And I don't think Billy is the rudest man in rock at all... I was referencing the interview thing where he was being a jerk. calling him rude reminded me of the interview.

you adore adore

True.

i too, adore adore love to love what you adore its you that i adore i adore adore

Thank you?

Why does Garski hate me so much in this thread?


Because you're a stupid cunt.

Someone quote me so the bitch can see my post.

Because you're a stupid cunt.

Someone quote me so the bitch can see my post.

<M>

Thank you?
:2thumbsup

<M>

Thanks Caine!!! :D

First of all, at least the Gallaghers keep their fans happy. Albeit be churning it out over and over again, but that's beside the point, Oasis are one of the best live bands (and certainly best crowd i've ever been in) on the planet. I'll know by friday what Bill and Co can do that with a none-partisan audience. I can't wait to hear daydream I just wish that they would have held something back from that photo shoot for another single.

If you actually go to the effort to buy a cd these days you at least expect to have something to look at and validate the purchase. Really really sadened by this.

Because you're a stupid cunt.

Someone quote me so the bitch can see my post.

Yo buddy, not cool using "the c word."

By the way, who buys a CD single that has the same price of the album? Besides being an uber fan and just wanting everything SP, why else would anyone buy a CD single?

just like my father...

Way to cast a pall on this thread.

i wish they'd put the blond kids out on something.


Imagine if the TTW artwork had been this instead of the Reaper...

Maybe he thinks it fits in with the rest of the songs and didn't want to just have two songs on the single (I know, that's pushing it... I'm just trying to be understanding. haha)

there are only 3 tracks on the cd - didnt you look at the 7"?

I know someone might have pointed this out already but i honestly cant be bothered reading the last 4 pages of this thread.

I like that's the way, and i think that if someone really thought about it, the cover does fit the song and what billy appears to have been trying to say about the spirit of the times

^

they say that life ain't easy
they'll say your life's a crime
destroy up all good reason
how i'm alive

they'll say that nothing matters
not even your will to survive
of course i love you baby
'cause i'm alive
yes, i'm alive

whenever i call you out
whenever i draw you round
whenever is here and now
that's the way my love is
that's the way i care
you should call on me baby
i'm always there for you
yeah, i'm always there for you

they'll say you'll lose your nerve soon
to claim identity
disgrace our sacred promise
with no belief
oh, how i believe in you

that's the way my love is, for you
that's the way my love is, for you!

i feel a coming age now
i feel a dawn in me
a certain sun keeps rising
on my belief in you

that's the way my love is
that's the way i care
you should call on me baby
'cause i'm always there for you

that's the way my love is
that's the way i care
you should call on me baby
'cause i'm always there for you
yeah, i'm always there for you


http://www.therecordshack.co.uk/images/Smashing%20pumpkins%20thats%20the%20way.jpg

yep, that's definitely the visual image i get from those lyrics.

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

I love the image, but for this song? It makes me dread the forthcoming video. I wonder if it's going to look like the intro to Dead Like Me.

The images and artwork for this album have been a fucking joke. And the video for this song is going to suck just as bad as "Tarantula" did. Why? The director sucks. P.R. Brown? Fuck that guy. He's done all shit work and the artists he directs for suck.

i think billy's just out to make this thing as ridiculous as possible now. there can't be any other explanation for this, other than him maybe running out of the blue pills.

I thought the TFE vids were neat (walking shade and that weird long thing with all the songs), but "Tarantula" is just funny. I think it's supposed to be funny, but a part of me is disappointed with it. Another part of me still thinks it's brilliant in a stupid sort of way... all this hype and then they come out with a low-budget piece of crap, and something I didn't expect. Oh, how Smashing Pumpkins of them!

all this hype and then they come out with a low-budget piece of crap, and something I didn't expect. Oh, how Smashing Pumpkins of them!

FREAK OUT

GIVE IN

ezzacly.

wow

i think billy's just out to make this thing as ridiculous as possible now. there can't be any other explanation for this, other than him maybe running out of the blue pills.

http://www.bluepillbox.co.uk/here/viagra2.jpg

The images and artwork for this album have been a fucking joke. And the video for this song is going to suck just as bad as "Tarantula" did. Why? The director sucks. P.R. Brown? Fuck that guy. He's done all shit work and the artists he directs for suck.
when was the last time anyone gave a fuck about a music video?

I thought the Tarantula vid was pretty cool.

when was the last time anyone gave a fuck about a music video?


I still do. I think the Pumpkins' largely in part mean something to me with their artistic portrayals. One such example is any video off of Adore and '1979' or 'Tonight, Tonight.'

whenever i see that picture I think of that thread... I probably dont have to elaborate

I hope that track listing is correct, that would be cool to have a version of Stellar at last.

I liked the Tarantula video a lot, it was cool seeing the band not taking themselves too seriously.

This song is kinda dull so I hope the music video is interesting.

I TOLD U I WAS HARDCORE

i think billy's just out to make this thing as ridiculous as possible now. there can't be any other explanation for this, other than him maybe running out of the blue pills.

It's all got a very campy feeling to it.

Corgan, this must be tongue-in-cheek.