See you there.

They better give us something up there with Rock Am Ring or I will boo hoo.

So...nothing...na da...

My friend and I are the only one's going then. Cool. Lots of room at the front for us. Good times will be had.

Oh by the way it's 26/08/2007 not the other way round, and whichever Nazi edited my thread title can quite simply go and vigourously depart with a sexual connotation.

check the leeds thread - a couple of people going to reading posted there.

I'm going..

Me too. Not that I know anyone from here, so the addition of me is probably fairly irrelevant.

I'll be there, but I'm not expecting much.

Anyone going?

I just checked out their setlist for Leeds tonight and i'm a bit apprehensive about it, it's the only opportunity i'll have to see the band for fuck knows how long and they're wasting valuable set time with 'Heavy Metal Machine' and 'Starz'. They seem to be sacrificing either SIYL or Cherub Rock lately, which either way is pretty annoying.

The new Heavy Metal Machine is awesome...wtf joo talking about.

SIYL live isn't that good, it loses all of it's studio dynamics.

to the tour forum

bump.

come on untitled, home. I want them to start busting those jems out again.

its going to be another shitty show/setlist. don't get excited.

bbc 3 will show some pumpkins at between 22.30 and 23.30. don't think they will show the whole gig, but i'm hoping for a good few songs. bbc 2 has a highlights show from midnight as well.

EDIT: they're showing today now. they will not show the entire gig.

i could hear drown in the background while the presenters were chatting, nice!

Any ones know why the entire set isn't being shown? Is it because of the pumpkins request or the Beeb being dicky!! Rock Em Ring got entire coverage on MTV :(

PS. Tarantula on now!

"i don't wanna be, any fake B0llys"

US in the background

i suspect it's because of a pumpkins request. they did show almost the entire pearl jam gig uninterrupted last year. it was only lacking the 2nd encore.

as for sp's performance: i am very unimpressed with what i've seen so far. i thought billy's singing completely ruined 'today'. they were far better in london it thought.

Yea same here, seems to be lacking a bit of atmosphere but I guess I'm a bit biased cos I'm not there! London was awesome. Whats this rubbish on now?

What the fuck is up with the highlights? I couldn't be bothered to go in the end as I had seen them in Leeds and Glasgow this week but the highlights are crap. They showed Tarantula and Today and that's it. Could hear them playing Drown, United States, Zero, BWBW though.

that's the way on bbc 2 now

and bbc interactive shows a fair chunk of the show now. missed the beginning but they repeated tarantuala and now tonight, tonight is on.

and bbc interactive shows a fair chunk of the show now. missed the beginning but they repeated tarantuala and now tonight, tonight is on.

where the fuck was that on? I just checked all the channels and can't find the pumpkins on interactive..was it just tonight tonight?

Ok seems some more Smashing Pumpkins is coming up sometime on interactive 2 soon

so far on interactive we had tarantuala, tonight tonight and that's the way. they were preceded by at least one song. i guess that would have been today.

pumpkins next on interactive channel 2

edit for spelling

I think they are also in the process of sticking a video up on the bbc reading site. They just added some photos for Pumpkins and it now says on the monday list video will be added.

on interactive they just repeated the 4 T's: today, tarantula, tonight tonight and that's the way. guess there will be no more songs shown on tv.

The BBC never show gigs in their entiriety, probably because of record label requests more than any bands etc. Also, they realise that most people (unfortuntely) tune into the highlights to watch the Klaxons or Razorlight etc. so they have to vary it a bit.

The fact they have shown more Nine Inch Nails songs though than Pumpkins is taking the piss though.

setlist?

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=159958&hit=1

Did Lisa play the keytar? and if so... is there a screencap of it? :D

so... set list... please

cut and paste a random assortment of the show on the 22nd's set and it's most likely a carbon copy with things out of order.

Did Lisa play the keytar? and if so... is there a screencap of it? :D

i watched the highlights thing only and yeah, she played it alongside jeff on that's the way. the outfits, especially lisa's [all white instead of black latex (?)] were different than for leeds.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=159958&hit=1

what is the "Unknown" song? superchrist?

no idea, i'm at like 2.5 percent

That was unfuckingbelievably good.
NIN got their arses handed to them on a plate last night. What a fucking superb gig, pant wettingly good.

how about a setlist maybe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/readingandleeds/2007/watchandlisten/

video here, just been upped. most have been about half hour.

Edit: same 4 songs as mentioned earlier, Today, Tarantula, Tonight Tonight and Thats the way.

It's obvious British people can't write setlists :)
3 failures to post accurate ones before the OSite in 3 shows...

Should we just make one up?

It's obvious British people can't write setlists :)
3 failures to post accurate ones before the OSite in 3 shows...
they are untroo fans!

except for redpandacat. i bet he wrote the entire setlist on his arm again. :p

They played a new song called 'Fuck Sandwhich' It had an audience call and response. It was awesome.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=159958&hit=1
1. What's this?
2. I can't even register with this site it's not taking new people.

Grrrr...

Anyone help out here?

'cause you touch yourself at night.

anyway...
Nine Inch Nails + Smashing Pumpkins - Reading Festival, 26th August 2007 PAL DVD

Nine Inch Nails
Reading Festival, UK
26th August 2007

Only
Wish
Dead Souls
The Hand That Feeds You
Head Like A Hole
Hurt




Smashing Pumpkins
Reading Festival, UK
26th August 2007

Today
Tarantula
Tonight, Tonight
Unknown
Thats The Way My Love Is


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Thank you

i watched the highlights on tv. i only saw tonight tonight though. good energy but the sound production was lacklustre and billy's singing was off.

man i hate those music tv presenters, pretending to be all buddy-buddy with each other. zane lowe especially, despite what he said about "sp's back catalog meaning alot to him" he's still a huge douche and a suckup. i hope his stupid mtv interview couch comes alive and eats him.

they are untroo fans!

except for redpandacat. i bet he wrote the entire setlist on his arm again. :p

Haha, not this time!

Here's the songs they played (I think that was all of them!) but not all in the correct order!

Superchrist
Tarantula
Doomsday Clock
Today
Drown
Stand Inside Your Love
Zero
United States (with Star Spangled Banner)
Glass & The Ghost Children
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
1979 (solo, acoustic)
Death From Above
That's The Way (My Love Is)
Tonight, Tonight
Heavy Metal Machine (with White Rabbit)
Cherub Rock

Amazing show, the crowd was good, Billy seemed in a joking sort of mood, the band played fantastically. Personal highlights were Drown, G&TGC, HMM, Cherub Rock and Tonight.

In BWBW, Billy paused to let the crowd sing, but it was quite shoddy, and people seemed to get lost, or start a line too late. Billy said something along the lines of "It wasn't that bad, let's give it another go!"

When mentioning Zeitgeist, and that he was going to play a song from it (Death From Above), he joked "here's a song from my new album fuckers!" which went down well with the crowd.

They played until 23:45 which unless the curfew has been extended is 15 minutes past curfew time which never really happens. Wonder if that'll affect the license chances, when they have to renew.

Met some people from the uk sp board briefly before they came on, and after the show saw Davin and went and said a quick hello, and shared opinions of the show!

All in all a fantastic concert- just a shame it was only 90 mins.

9/10

Death From Above isn't a very likeable song, but the rest of the set was fucking amazing. The crowd were cheering and chanting, had a huge turnout especially considering the other 2 headliners' large followings (Klaxons & New Found Glory).

I couldn't give a standout track because it was all that good.

Yep that's all the songs I remember.

Glad they played Drown - was gutted they didn't play it at Shepherds bush.

GATGC dragged...imo.

I enjoyed the crowds luke warm reception to him mentioning 'Zeitgeist' causing him to retort "It's my new album fuckers". 'My' being the keyword in that sentence I suppose.

no starla?

A great gig overall I felt. I think they lost the crowd a bit doing U.S and GATGC back to back, having 2 long ones together. For non fans that wouldn't be great. Everything before that was simply awesome, and some one mentioned DFA not being great, I loved that tune really happy they played that. Really good all in all.

GATGC just went onto whole new level towards then end. I almost prolapsed when I heard it. HMM was just fucking insane. For me to hear these two songs arranged how they were was the highlight, as I've seen all the others many times before.

I really really hope someone recorded this. Also, to anyone giving the impression this gig was 'lacklustre' I don't know what fucking planet you were on last night, not mine and 99% of everyones else's, put it that way. This show rocked, no doubt about it. Oh and as usual the BBC coverage was shit. They didn't even show any of the best bits. Don't judge this gig by the four shitty videos they've put out.

DVD now uploaded on zomb without the NIN set

Just got back from Reading. I have to say I enjoyed that gig much more than either paris or Shepherds Bush. I think they just performed much better and the sound where I was standing was immense. Highlights for me: Superchrist, Drown, Doomsday Clock and SIYL. Have to agree though, playing U.S and GATGC back to back was suicide. The gig was going so well up to that point and you could tell that non-fans were loving it as well as the hardcore and then they decided to alienate half the crowd with these two extended jam songs. Man, as much as I love them they can be so damn frustrating sometimes.

Great gig, great performance and I hate to say it, but NIN put on the best show last night.

DVD now uploaded on zomb without the NIN set
holy shit that's coming down at 1.4meg/sec for me atm... :D

Thank you!

wow, nin played dead souls thats a great cover

Great gig, great performance and I hate to say it, but NIN put on the best show last night.
Bollocks.

Your opinion, fine, but I just don't see how you can say the NiN performance was even close lol. Ah well, the rohipnol you were on must have kicked in just when the Pumpkins started to play... ;)

Pumpkins are my favourite band but that is my honest opinion. NIN put on a festival show for a festival crowd. If you failed to notice the overall change in atmosphere throughout the arena then I think you were the one on Rohipnol my friend ;)

Just got home from a weekend of utter madness. I worked at Reading, and was totally shitting the prospect of having a shift clash with the Pumpkins. After arriving at 10pm on Wednesday after being stuck in traffic for what seemed like years and being forced to park in another county (!) I got in and found out I would indeed be working when they were on... after desperately trying to change my shift all weekend, I ended up working in the Radio One tent, and after begging the supervisor there to go work on the main stage I finally made it with seconds to spare (after a brief heated debate/begging session with the guy in charge there to get me in!)... I ended up watching the gig from the disabled platform by the mixing desk :)

Much better performance than the London show, far more attitude from all the members. GATGC and HMM blew me away, Drown was beautiful... in fact, the only sour moment was Death From Above, which I still can't get my head round. Unbelievable show with some great banter towards the end.

Oh yeah, 1979, Death From Above and Tonight were back to back. Can't remember any other setlist details that haven't been posted.


Goddammit I want some more UK shows to look forwards to

so can anyone on the NIN/SP torrent confirm that there are actually five songs? Or is it just four like the one on zomb?

we're all stuck at 7.8% on dime :(

I'm hoping if there was another tune broadcast it will be Superchrist, seeing it's listed as unknown...

Did Lisa play the keytar? and if so... is there a screencap of it? :D

The zomb has the hook-up! I know I'm not the only one who has been waiting for this!!!

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2442/keytarcloseaw2.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/720/keytarfarhj7.jpg

:D :D :D :D

so can anyone on the NIN/SP torrent confirm that there are actually five songs? Or is it just four like the one on zomb?

i'm not on it, but i'd be amazed if there were 5, i saw them show sp at various points on the bbc channels and only ever those 4. i think the confusion is cos the bbc captioned 'tonight tonight' after the breakdown part of tarantula, and the uploader heard that end and then a new uncaptioned song starts (which IS tonight tonight)

wow, nin played dead souls thats a great cover
this and SP's version of Transmission are the only covers of Joy Division songs that I like more than the originals.

There's some Reading highlights on one of the ITV digital channels now. Not sure if Pumpkins will be on it, but there's 2 hours of it.

they are on the itv2 coverage - i saw tarantula and today

Can everyone keep an eye out for the boot of this please. I really want this gig for my memories as well as the fact it was just such a good gig! Cheers.

i thought the performance was good, sound was amazing but was ruined by corgan's ego, nobody was interested in heavy metal machine, it was a waste of 15 minutes and ruined the brillance of the set.

Ummm...Everyone around me thought HMM was superb. Even the 'non fans'. HMM and GATGC were two of the highlights...

if that is true, I have hope for SP Lite (tm.)

holy crow, 15-minute Heavy Metal Machine huh?

i hope it was shown on TV, I really want a recorded version of HMM to watch

here is the relevant zomb torrent, which i list because it is moving more than 300 times faster than the dime a dozen torrent...
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=17843

HMM was THE highlight of the set by a mile. I will never like GATGC, every time I give it a chance and every time i want it to end.

I love Billy's banter, he seemed really happy to be there.

HMM and GATGC were easily the highlights. Glass in particular seems quite different from it's performances from a few weeks ago, more longer and proggy. Really really hoping a full boot comes out from this.

My non-Pumpkins loving friends were properly converted after I convinced them to watch them. I didn't really hear a single word of negative feedback from many people there.

Also if any SPLRA people are reading, Muzzle was NOT played as an encore. It may of been on the setlist. Cherub Rock was sort of an encore, the band left the stage for about 5 seconds.

Yeah they already over ran (came on late too) so I just think they had to cut Muzzle. I got Muzzle in London so it's all good anyway.

that was a fucking brutal set. Was anyone around that kid that threw up over everyone in the middle of the front section? Gross. haha, he threw up during 1979. Im really pleased he was in a good mood, and drown was lovely.

I thought it was a sweet set. Jeff was rockin' out quite a bit and it could've been longer if they started on time too. It's plain wrong if no-one airs the whole show on TV. The only other band I thought was as good was UNKLE.

its going to be another shitty show/setlist. don't get excited.

alas, you couldn't have been more wrong...

and you still have never seen them, right? so wtf are you blabbering on about?

That was unfuckingbelievably good.
NIN got their arses handed to them on a plate last night. What a fucking superb gig, pant wettingly good.

:banging:

i agree. i was concerned that SP wouldn't have been able to step-up to the NIN intensity challenge...however they totally topped them.

it may be due, in part, to the fact that NIN's new material does not have much guitar bombast in it....and in comparison, it was easy for billy and jimmy's ROCK to completely overshadow NIN in grandeur. SP just sounded 10X bigger IMO, and the crowd was way more into it.

Both acts had moments that made the festival crowd somewhat uncomfortable though....(trent's noisy bits and Billy's DFA and drawn-out jamming/squealing)....but thats one of the reason I loved it. It reminded me of Lollapalooza 1994 where there were just enough long noisy parts to make the crowd somewhat uncomfortable. classic billy doing his thing (just like silverfuck at the end of the MCIS era shows had the same effect).

fuck the mainstream bullshit...and i'm glad, given the short setlists, that both trent and billy *******d some solo moments and newer less popular material.

Just got back from Reading. I have to say I enjoyed that gig much more than either paris or Shepherds Bush. I think they just performed much better and the sound where I was standing was immense. Highlights for me: Superchrist, Drown, Doomsday Clock and SIYL. Have to agree though, playing U.S and GATGC back to back was suicide. The gig was going so well up to that point and you could tell that non-fans were loving it as well as the hardcore and then they decided to alienate half the crowd with these two extended jam songs. Man, as much as I love them they can be so damn frustrating sometimes.

Great gig, great performance and I hate to say it, but NIN put on the best show last night.

like i said, i like what they did with US, G&tGC and HMM. I always liked it when SP makes the mainstream crowds feel somewhat uncomfortable.

I've said it once, and i'll say it again.....even though i want SP to be successful for Billy's sake, I don't ever want them to be too palatable or user-friendly. So yea, bring on the long jams....the squealing noise....and the rants...i fucking love it. Thats classic Pumpkins, when it comes to NOT pleasing the crowd. :smoke:

I remember some people boo'ing during the SSB in the middle of US and it made me realize how stupid people are. isn't it obvious by the way billy skews it, not to mention the subject matter of the song, that its an ironic statement? just like when billy says during HMM that they're just doing it "for the money" before diving into a guitar dual with jeff that completely illustrates how much they absolutely love to play and how its all about the music.

Billy was so right about people taking him too seriously during the Machina I interviews. The press especially. Did you see all the news about his "girls are sluts" comment with absolutely no fucking mention of the music or the performance at all? Not to mention the comment was totally mis-represented. Oh well, fuck the press and the fairweather fans. If people can't make the musical investment it takes to truly appreciate SP beyond just the surface or the singles, i say fuck them.

holy crow, 15-minute Heavy Metal Machine huh?

yes, it was awesome.

HMM was THE highlight of the set by a mile. I will never like GATGC, every time I give it a chance and every time i want it to end.

I love Billy's banter, he seemed really happy to be there.

i hear where you are coming from...but what i was happy to see was how much GatGC has continued to evolve since Paris. I know its been played, but not at the Residency show I went to, so it was great to hear the contrast.

More than anything, along with BWBW, GatGC really illustrates how Ginger is (finally) stepping up more. Her confidence is way improved, and its really great to see her coming into her own similar to what I observed with Jeff in San Fran.

The keytar was also funny to see at first, but it also represents the same "growth" for Lisa. Am I mistaken, or was it used during both GatGC as well as Thats the Way?

HMM and GATGC were easily the highlights. Glass in particular seems quite different from it's performances from a few weeks ago, more longer and proggy. Really really hoping a full boot comes out from this.

My non-Pumpkins loving friends were properly converted after I convinced them to watch them. I didn't really hear a single word of negative feedback from many people there.

Also if any SPLRA people are reading, Muzzle was NOT played as an encore. It may of been on the setlist. Cherub Rock was sort of an encore, the band left the stage for about 5 seconds.

yea it was totally awesome. I thought the crowd reactions during Tarantula and Zero were both incredible, considering its usually BWBW or Today that garner's that kind of attention or enthusiasm.

the short set times annoyed me (for both NIN and SP) but from what everyone was telling me, thats the standard drill for Reading.

The chili peppers really really really sucked.

yes, it was awesome.
i was sure that was an exaggeration, thinking it had been 10 minutes at most. but looking at the last couple recordings, it's gotten to 12. so i guess that's not so far off.

alas, you couldn't have been more wrong...

and you still have never seen them, right? so wtf are you blabbering on about?


But he has followed the setlists on netphoria!

The chili peppers really really really sucked.
i heard there were a lot of sound system problems, is that why or is that a personal opinion?

Also if any SPLRA people are reading, Muzzle was NOT played as an encore. It may of been on the setlist. Cherub Rock was sort of an encore, the band left the stage for about 5 seconds.
got it

Does anyone else think that Billy sometimes doesn't look like hes enjoying himself on stage? I got that feeling in Glasgow, like he couldn't really be fagged with it and he showed hardly any emotion. Reading was completely different, he had loads of banter with the crowd, laughed quite a bit and his screams had some fucking passion in them for once. Well thats how it came across to me anyway.

Definitely, i was really pleased when he came out with a grin on his face, i think we gave him a good reception! I think he likes england as well. He actually sang bwbw like he cared, even though it sucks. haha, the amount of people round me singing bat in a cave drove me fucking nuts.


Yes the chilis did have a few sound problems at the beginning but they only played one song from before californication, and they only played scar tissue and london in the summertime off of that. No-one going to a headline at a festival wants to head a load of stadium arcadium shitty album tracks.

like i said, i like what they did with US, G&tGC and HMM. I always liked it when SP makes the mainstream crowds feel somewhat uncomfortable.

I've said it once, and i'll say it again.....even though i want SP to be successful for Billy's sake, I don't ever want them to be too palatable or user-friendly. So yea, bring on the long jams....the squealing noise....and the rants...i fucking love it. Thats classic Pumpkins, when it comes to NOT pleasing the crowd. :smoke:

I remember some people boo'ing during the SSB in the middle of US and it made me realize how stupid people are. isn't it obvious by the way billy skews it, not to mention the subject matter of the song, that its an ironic statement? just like when billy says during HMM that they're just doing it "for the money" before diving into a guitar dual with jeff that completely illustrates how much they absolutely love to play and how its all about the music.

Billy was so right about people taking him too seriously during the Machina I interviews. The press especially. Did you see all the news about his "girls are sluts" comment with absolutely no fucking mention of the music or the performance at all? Not to mention the comment was totally mis-represented. Oh well, fuck the press and the fairweather fans. If people can't make the musical investment it takes to truly appreciate SP beyond just the surface or the singles, i say fuck them.

I completely agree with everything you said..I see what you mean about Billy making the crowd uncomfortable but, yeah, that is what makes it fucking awesome..Billy could stand up there and play every hit and everything that the crowd wanted to hear but thats not the Smashing Pumpkins and thats why I love them so much. Playing US and G&tGC back to back was daring but they pull it off and i'm not sure any band that day, or even that weekend could have done that. When RHCP did their extended jams at the beginning (and it) it didn't seem to have the passion and seemed a little forced as if to say "look how good we are". With SP it wasn't like that...

How did you find Reading overall Davin?

@Pete: Yeah there was a lot of passion at Reading and Billy was smiling A LOT! His screaming was awesome too..can't comment on Glasgow though.

Does anyone else think that Billy sometimes doesn't look like hes enjoying himself on stage? I got that feeling in Glasgow, like he couldn't really be fagged with it and he showed hardly any emotion. Reading was completely different, he had loads of banter with the crowd, laughed quite a bit and his screams had some fucking passion in them for once. Well thats how it came across to me anyway.

I was at both, and I think that's about right. Still, he always said he wanted SP to be a "big" band - maybe playing to a couple of thousand people just seemed like a waste of time when he had two festival dates coming up with 80,000 people at each. Besides, Glasgow crowds are pretty tough to please.

As for playing Star Spangled Banner (which they did at both), that's all very well for people like us who have an existing interest in the band and appreciate the irony. However, you can't really expect a casual/drunken festival crowd to pick up on the lyrics (which weren't exactly easy to make out) and it's not as if anything from the album has been played on the radio either. SP just came across like an American band being overly patriotic...and unsurprisingly they got booed. I mean, what did Billy expect?

edit: Well, OK, that's probably exactly what he did expect. Fair play... :cool:

I've said it before, but SP were truly blinding in Reading. My brother was there with me and he's never got into them the whole 10 years i've been a fan; now he's asking me when they're next in England and said they were the best band of the weekend.

I think it has done their reputation in the UK the world of good, even if NME insist on derailing them. Billy was fucking funny too.. haha. Fucking sluts.

N.M.E insist on taking Billy's comments completely out of context. They don't even say he was joking which he OBVIOUSLY was. Cunts. This pathetic hoo haa being created by these prats better not end up tarnishing what was a sublime gig. What we saw was a fantastic performance no one can honestly, hand on heart, say it wasn't.

Where's the fucking torrent I ask you already? Does anyone know if it was recorded? Please let it be...

Where's the fucking torrent I ask you already?
sir please

sir please
Ummm...Did I say something bad? Is it wrong to want to have this?
Apologies if my tone isn't exactly jovial, I'd just love to have the memory backed up by a decent recording.

asking for it like this isn't exactly going to help your case. have some patience.

Where's the fucking torrent I ask you already?

It's in the hoarding bag.

http://rifferaff.typepad.com/make_it/images/2007/03/30/blue_and_purple_bag.jpg

Ok. I apologise. My bad. Seriously. Soz.

so leeds gets ignored except for some bad clips on youtube :noway:

too bad, i can't imagine reading was any better.

Well I'm hearing that Leeds wasn't great actually. Lucky I'm a southerner is all I say. Reading pwnd!

Does anyone else think that Billy sometimes doesn't look like hes enjoying himself on stage? I got that feeling in Glasgow, like he couldn't really be fagged with it and he showed hardly any emotion. Reading was completely different, he had loads of banter with the crowd, laughed quite a bit and his screams had some fucking passion in them for once. Well thats how it came across to me anyway.

what do you think this is, Zwan? :D

seriously though, like any normal human i'm sure he has his happy days, sad days, mad days, etc. and that attitude gets reflected in his performance.

he was all smiles at the san fran residency show i saw, as well as Reading...but definitely more focused during Paris.

I completely agree with everything you said..I see what you mean about Billy making the crowd uncomfortable but, yeah, that is what makes it fucking awesome..Billy could stand up there and play every hit and everything that the crowd wanted to hear but thats not the Smashing Pumpkins and thats why I love them so much. Playing US and G&tGC back to back was daring but they pull it off and i'm not sure any band that day, or even that weekend could have done that. When RHCP did their extended jams at the beginning (and it) it didn't seem to have the passion and seemed a little forced as if to say "look how good we are". With SP it wasn't like that...

yea exactly! if Billy dropped the long jams and squealing guitar "noise" it wouldn't be SP. It would be just a "greatest hits" reunion like The Police and we all know thats not what this comeback as about. I almost wished Trent would have taken more chances with his setlist...like really going nuts with the Great Destroyer "noisy part".....but oh well.

How did you find Reading overall Davin?

Overall I thought Reading was awesome...in general the crowds were much more fun and into the music compared than US festival crowds. The circle pits, jumping around, crowd surfing, etc. were all awesome compared to the virtually stagnant head-bobbing that goes on at most US festival shows these days. I loved the festival experience because of this... :2thumbsup

As far as the grounds go...that was a different story. Reading was pretty fucking nasty, in terms of all the rubbish, the overflowing trash bins, porto-johns, etc. The whole place smelled like shit and was a lot more disgusting than Bonnaroo or Lolla or any US festival I have been to. I think this is due, in part, to the rules about open fires. No US festivals allow open fires, and it was clear from all the flames and such that this contribued to the atmosphere at Reading in a negative way. On the way out Sunday night, people were blowing up propane tanks, trashing tents, and lighting everything and anyting on fire. It was seriously like walking out of a warzone or something.

Granted, the experience of coming in the last day is pretty shocking compared to being there all 3 days to see it gradually get like that, but it was still pretty bad compared to the state of things at the end of Bonnaroo or Coachella. And it wasn't unbearable, just a little more mayhem and pollution than i expected.

As far as the logistics of the music festival, I thought the setlists were too short and there wasn't enough "big" stages. Them not allowing encores and such was pretty harsh, I thought. On the other hand, I thought it was awesome how they sell so many camping supplies and how the cost of food/drink (even though they rarely had anything ice cold) was pretty decent. Most of the food/drink in Reading was cheaper than stuff in London....so that was cool things weren't further inflated just because it was a fest.

But overall it was awesome. I always wanted to go to Reading and i'm sure people who have done the whole camping thing can atest to all the "rubbish and stink" as being part of the whole experience. i am not squeamish by any means, and therefore i don't think it was actually that bad....just sharing my thoughts in comparison to the "hippie peace & love, keep the earth clean" attitude of Bonnaroo....and its contrast to Reading.

N.M.E insist on taking Billy's comments completely out of context. They don't even say he was joking which he OBVIOUSLY was. Cunts. This pathetic hoo haa being created by these prats better not end up tarnishing what was a sublime gig. What we saw was a fantastic performance no one can honestly, hand on heart, say it wasn't.

yea exactly, all this focus on bullshit and not a single comment on the music or the performance. pathetic.

I got that feeling in Glasgow,

you get around a fair bit :)

As for playing Star Spangled Banner (which they did at both), that's all very well for people like us who have an existing interest in the band and appreciate the irony. However, you can't really expect a casual/drunken festival crowd to pick up on the lyrics (which weren't exactly easy to make out) and it's not as if anything from the album has been played on the radio either. SP just came across like an American band being overly patriotic...and unsurprisingly they got booed.
not that i'm surprised by the booing, but i do think it's apparent in the mournful, pained manner in which it's played that there's no pride or patriotism meant by it, and i don't think you have to have any knowledge of the band or the lyrics to get, at least suspect, that.

i mean it's such a simple-minded sort of reaction, "oh, American symbol here, i must boo now", that seems to immediately trump any actual thought being put into it. people are so lazy, i'm so outraged!

but i should hope that most of the booers were just having a good time and not actually offended or something.

not that i'm surprised by the booing, but i do think it's apparent in the mournful, pained manner in which it's played that there's no pride or patriotism meant by it, and i don't think you have to have any knowledge of the band or the lyrics to get, at least suspect, that.

Exactemondo.

Fucking hell here we go. You know what? This saddens me. It really really does.

Including me, there's only really about another 80,000 or so other people on this whole planet that REALLY know how this happened in real time. Not in the slightest how it's published here.

What a bunch of absolute arse:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/International_Buzz/American_women_are_fastBilly_Corgan/articleshow/2320593.cms

Agreed on your points Davin, Reading does indeed stink to high shit compared to other festivals... I think it's because there's a younger, slightly rowdier audience there who are more obsessed with drinking and getting fucked up than places like, say, Glastonbury. It's because of this I would never want to pay to go there anymore, it's fun dipping in and out of the main campsite, but the idiots who act like retards would drive me crazy over the course of a week! It's just the way of the more rock orientated festivals in the UK sadly. I actually think Sunday night antics were a lot tamer this year too.

Well I'm hearing that Leeds wasn't great actually. Lucky I'm a southerner is all I say. Reading pwnd!
reading fl00ded

not that i'm defending leeds, i am a southerner who inexplicably ended up there and the accents made me vomit. plus the arena is like a fucking maze.

Agreed on your points Davin, Reading does indeed stink to high shit compared to other festivals... I think it's because there's a younger, slightly rowdier audience there who are more obsessed with drinking and getting fucked up than places like, say, Glastonbury. It's because of this I would never want to pay to go there anymore, it's fun dipping in and out of the main campsite, but the idiots who act like retards would drive me crazy over the course of a week! It's just the way of the more rock orientated festivals in the UK sadly. I actually think Sunday night antics were a lot tamer this year too.

It was pretty annoying, there were too maNY people there who had only just been let out from under daddies skirt. The whole field cider drinking thing. We had a wicked time though because we knew pretty much all the bar staff in the main arena, getting shitfaced on free £8 double vodkas (which i thought were singles!) Orange was a pretty grown up campsite too. Were you guys only there for sunday?

MY thoughts... personally am a big fan of both NIN and the 'Pumpkins and thought they both did themselves proud on Sunday.

I had lower expectations for NIN as they were technically 'supporting' but their sound, lights and performance were pretty faultless and they went down really well. Loved it.

'Pumpkins - Tall order to follow NIN, but they handled it easily, went down amazingly well and barring a couple of vocal fluffs, played / sang brilliantly. I love it when they go off on extended tracks etc... but why do it on an already average song (*Heavy Metal Machine)? Why do do a full on version of Drown or Silverfuck?

*HMM - they have 'deconstructed' the song, taken any semblance of the original outside and given it a good kicking and for me was merely "ok". Doing this and a(n admittedly great version of) Glass And The Ghost Children was a bit much - no I don't just want "Hits" - Geek USA, Quiet, errrr anything of Gish? please... : )

Anyway - Shepherds Bush Empire (again - for me!) had better sound, lights and setlist. I also went to Stockholm - great gig, smaller venue than SBE, but not quite as good a gig..

And there endeth my rambling for tonight... : )

Bye all.

that was a fucking brutal set. Was anyone around that kid that threw up over everyone in the middle of the front section? Gross. haha, he threw up during 1979. Im really pleased he was in a good mood, and drown was lovely.

I cant believe you saw that !!! ,he threw up all over my mate ....so engrossed was I in the set I missed it all !!! he turned round cos he felt it on the back of his legs then just for good measure, he did his front as well !As you say absolutely brutal set, fucking loved it, best sound i think ive ever heard at Reading and probably the best ive seen the Pumpkins

It was pretty annoying, there were too maNY people there who had only just been let out from under daddies skirt. The whole field cider drinking thing. We had a wicked time though because we knew pretty much all the bar staff in the main arena, getting shitfaced on free £8 double vodkas (which i thought were singles!) Orange was a pretty grown up campsite too. Were you guys only there for sunday?

thats a pretty awesome hookup! though to be honest, the prices didn't seem that bad compared to the previous 4 days in London :p

yea, i was just there for sunday.

The prices were a fucking rip-off compared to London. Had a great weekend though. The main camp was one of the nicest night-time riots I've been to in a while. Hats off to the running army shouting "Gazebo!" at each one they passed. I enjoyed Shepherd's Bush more but I'm really glad I saw the Reading show too.

yea i was just taking a jab at how expensive (in general) London is...4 days there cost me as much as 6 in Scotland...and thats including a rental car in the highlands!

jailbait!!!

Are rent boys cheap in the highlands?

Agreed on your points Davin, Reading does indeed stink to high shit compared to other festivals... I think it's because there's a younger, slightly rowdier audience there who are more obsessed with drinking and getting fucked up than places like, say, Glastonbury. It's because of this I would never want to pay to go there anymore, it's fun dipping in and out of the main campsite, but the idiots who act like retards would drive me crazy over the course of a week! It's just the way of the more rock orientated festivals in the UK sadly. I actually think Sunday night antics were a lot tamer this year too.

I think you're exactly right. The first few times I went (starting in '95 with the Pumpkins!) were great but I stopped camping there I think around 2001. The atmosphere in the campsites was starting to become quite intimidating and full of people who were absolutely wasted at all times of the day. Some nights couldn't even sleep at all because of the fear our tent would catch fire because of the idiots starting fires all around us. I think the year we called it a day was when my two asian friends had a lot of racial abuse directed towards them. We would be in our tent and then racist songs would start up around the camp. It wasn't like we could even pinpoint the culprits as it was the entire surrounding area! Disgraceful.

Anyway, I went back just for the day this year and realised how much I missed the good parts of the festival. I think I'll go next year but will be hoteling it :)

Are rent boys cheap in the highlands?

wtf are you talking about? the rental car?

a manual transmission ford focus with AC, unlimited mileage for 2.5 days, and it was only 56 GBP (booked in advance online, with a promo code). i picked it up at the inverness railway stattion.

No, I meant rent boys...

I think you're exactly right. The first few times I went (starting in '95 with the Pumpkins!) were great but I stopped camping there I think around 2001. The atmosphere in the campsites was starting to become quite intimidating and full of people who were absolutely wasted at all times of the day. Some nights couldn't even sleep at all because of the fear our tent would catch fire because of the idiots starting fires all around us. I think the year we called it a day was when my two asian friends had a lot of racial abuse directed towards them. We would be in our tent and then racist songs would start up around the camp. It wasn't like we could even pinpoint the culprits as it was the entire surrounding area! Disgraceful.

Anyway, I went back just for the day this year and realised how much I missed the good parts of the festival. I think I'll go next year but will be hoteling it :)

we stayed in a nice B&B in reading and it made it very convenient and comfortable. IN addition to teh festival on Sunday, Reading was our jump off point for a day trip to Bath and Stonehenge. It was 70 GBP a night, which was a slightly inflated rate because of the festival going on. Well worth it.

No, I meant rent boys...

well, based on my google search...it looks like my appropriate response to you should be "fuck you". :rolleyes:

lol If you don't know, just say so. I'll ask someone else. I just imagined rent boys would be more expensive in the highlands seeing as it is far less populated than London. Oh well, on with my quest...

lol, ok...good luck with your quest.

We have an audience recorded reading dvd in our posession now, so no one else needs to buy it from ebay.

We have an audience recorded reading dvd in our posession now, so no one else needs to buy it from ebay.

Excellent!

Also if any SPLRA people are reading, Muzzle was NOT played as an encore. It may of been on the setlist. Cherub Rock was sort of an encore, the band left the stage for about 5 seconds.

i didn't consider it an encore -- jimmy never left his post and ginger/jeff just waffled over to the side while billy swapped guitars (probably to grab a drink of water or whatever).

as soon as billy switched guitars he thanked everyone, said some kinds words, and then it was off to cherub rock.

Met some people from the uk sp board briefly before they came on, and after the show saw Davin and went and said a quick hello, and shared opinions of the show!

it was cool seeing you and a couple others from paris again. something tells me it won't be the last.... ;) :cool:

Thanks for the upload people concerned. I'm currently watching it, that girl is really fucking annoying, If you are going to sing along, at least get half the words right (fucking bat in a cave) Or in the semblance of key.

Nm, she shut up for the good songs.

OK. TY very much for the upload but is anyone else having problems with Vision Express failing the burn where it cuts for the 'battery change' section? It kinda goes a bit odd and won't complete it. It's the bit before it actually burns the disk so I'm not losing dvd's but it won't complete the preparation before burning to disk at that point... *moan/cry*

Also, if anyone manages to rip the audio pls say so. Even if it's not an audiophiles dream I want it :)

Maybe try a new program? I use one called ImgBurn, easiest program to use ever

Nero. :banging:




LOL @ "bat in a cave" haha.

LOL @ "bat in a cave" haha.
that is kinda brilliant. matches very well with "the world is a vampire".

if only i had known that the aud dvd of this recording prominently features someone in the crowd that sounds like 1fatslug singing the vox and guitar horribly off key...

setlist?

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/gallery/pics/08-26-07_reading.jpg

Did anyone else see Kristen Burns filming the band and the crowd during their performance?She was to the right of the stage..maybe some footage for the dvd that was mentioned during the residencies?

she is always filming

Finally read this thread, thanks for all the descriptions y'all. Downloading the partial DVD from the Zomb now.

Can anyone link the AUD DVD?

Well...does anyone know if a complete recording of this will ever surface? It's been well over two months now and the one on Archive misses some of the best bits :(

Well...does anyone know if a complete recording of this will ever surface? It's been well over two months now and the one on Archive misses some of the best bits :(

on my planet, its been 1 month and 4 days. :cool:

ooops...I was on another one when I wrote that. Apologies!

There was a fully audience minus the last few songs on the archive. Where are you looking?

http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2007-08-26.dpa4061.rob.flac16

See

The one on Archive misses something like 4 or 5 songs...it's not even close to being comlpete and most of all it misses HMM which was SUBLIME at this gig.