View Full Version : The Stand is a great book.


Cactuar
04-09-2002, 01:46 PM
Laws, yes.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 01:47 PM
make sure and read the un-abridged version..TONS better

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 01:49 PM
and don't watch the horrid made-for-tv movie

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 01:51 PM
AND if you read any of Stephen King's other earlier books, notice how the antagonist is always initialed R.F.

i *heart* stephen king

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Cactuar
04-09-2002, 01:56 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Blue*Carbonite:
make sure and read the un-abridged version..TONS better</font>

That's what I read.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 01:58 PM
Are you a big S.K. fan? i've read all his books except for his newest collection of short stories :)

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Debaser
04-09-2002, 02:01 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Blue*Carbonite:
and don't watch the horrid made-for-tv movie</font>

watched the movie. Then read the book. Liked the movie better.

Debaser
04-09-2002, 02:05 PM
stephen king = good stories, bad bad writing style

i've read a lot of stephen king and it sucks how much pure pulp and extra unecessary crap he throws into his books. he must be paid by the word, jesus. its always a breath of fresh air whenever i finish a king book and then read somebody else like Crichton. If King were an effiecient writer, his books would all be 1/3 the size.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 02:05 PM
YOU'RE A FREAK! the movie didn't cover NEAR as much as the book, but that's to be expected. They chopped it all to pieces to make it hella shorter.

A S.K. movie that compliments the book (well short story) well.. Needful Things or Shawshank Redemption.

The hearts in atlantis movie was AWFUL compared.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 02:08 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Debaser:
stephen king = good stories, bad bad writing style

i've read a lot of stephen king and it sucks how much pure pulp and extra unecessary crap he throws into his books. he must be paid by the word, jesus. its always a breath of fresh air whenever i finish a king book and then read somebody else like Crichton. If King were an effiecient writer, his books would all be 1/3 the size.</font>

*cringes* it's the extra crap that makes his books so good. Crichton is very good, too, though. Sorry, i'm having a brain fart...didn't he wrie Sphere? now THAT was a horrid adaptation to a movie. although seeing queen latifa getting mauled by giant jellyfish was pretty satisfying.

Cactuar
04-09-2002, 02:10 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Blue*Carbonite:
Are you a big S.K. fan? i've read all his books except for his newest collection of short stories http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif

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Getting there. I've read Carrie, Salems lot, the dead zone, the stand, insomniac, desperation, the regulators, and a few others i can't remember.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 02:11 PM
The dark tower series is, I.M.O., his best work eva. i am so stoked about the dark tower 5.

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 02:15 PM
the book version of the Stand is so much better than the movie, it's not even funny. the ONLY things the movie had going for it were Gary Sinise and that dude from Coach who played Tom. Randall Flagg looked like a goon.

King's earlier books are much better than his newer stuff, in my opinion. from The Tommyknockers on, it gets kind of lacking. i just remember that after that book came out, he started to practically vomit books out every couple of months (though there are some good ones in there....The Green Mile series being one of them....Hearts In Atlantis was a great book, too).

try Salem's Lot or The Dead Zone. those are two of my all time favorite King books. The Shining's really good, too. and It was awesome (movie sucked balls, though). also, Misery was phenomenal....i read it in an afternoon.

if you want to see SK movies that really do the books justice see The Shawshank Redemption, Stand By Me, The Green Mile, and The Dark Half, and Misery. they're all pretty much page for page.

oh, and read The Talisman, too. fucking great book.

-doc.


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Debaser
04-09-2002, 02:21 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Blue*Carbonite:
*cringes* it's the extra crap that makes his books so good. Crichton is very good, too, though. Sorry, i'm having a brain fart...didn't he wrie Sphere? now THAT was a horrid adaptation to a movie. although seeing queen latifa getting mauled by giant jellyfish was pretty satisfying.

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well its cool you like king. But for me it becomes a chore after awhile to read all this super super decriptive stuff and ********** stories and sidetracks that really don't have anything to do with the plot...argh. Hypothetical analogy situation: one writer would just write something like "there's a desk in the corner of the room", and Stephen King would write "there's a desk in the corner of the room..." -and then go on for 5 pages about this stupid desk and its history and then segway into another sidestory about the desk and...arrrgh!!! get on with the story I would be screaming by now...

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 02:24 PM
doc gonzo, ever read Black House, follow-up to the talisman? very very good.

THIS IS MY 3000TH POST AND I SO WASTED IT

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doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 02:24 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Cactuar:
Laws, yes.</font>

M-O-O-N. that spells "Tom".
http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif

Debaser
04-09-2002, 02:24 PM
The Green Mile fucking sucked. Both the movie and the serial novels. Bo-ring.

And which Shining movie was better? The scary Kubrick movie or the booooorinng and very faithful adaptation tv miniseries that king oversaw himself?

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 02:25 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Blue*Carbonite:
doc gonzo, ever read Black House, follow-up to the talisman? very very good.

THIS IS MY 3000TH POST AND I SO WASTED IT

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i have it sitting on a stack of "to-read" books. i've heard good and bad about it, but i'm expecting it to be pretty kick ass.
guess i'll find out soon enough....

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 02:28 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Debaser:
The Green Mile fucking sucked. Both the movie and the serial novels. Bo-ring.

And which Shining movie was better? The scary Kubrick movie or the booooorinng and very faithful adaptation tv miniseries that king oversaw himself?</font>

Green Mile was great. both the book and the movie. i don't know why it gets so much flack. it's a good story, lots of emotion, a hint of the supernatural. but hey, to each his own.

to be honest, i enjoyed both movie versions of The Shining. but if i had to pick one, Kubrick wins every day of the week and twice on sunday.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 02:29 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Debaser:

And which Shining movie was better? The scary Kubrick movie or the booooorinng and very faithful adaptation tv miniseries that king oversaw himself?</font>

KUBRICK, even thoguh the olive oil bitch was in it

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I will never feed off the evergreen luster of your heart all because we all live in the valley of the walls when we speak we can peak from the windows of their mouths to see the land the women chant as they fly up to the sun

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 02:31 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Blue*Carbonite:
KUBRICK, even thoguh the olive oil bitch was in it

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awww, she was awesome!

Random Female
04-09-2002, 02:32 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Debaser:
stephen king = good stories, bad bad writing style

i've read a lot of stephen king and it sucks how much pure pulp and extra unecessary crap he throws into his books. he must be paid by the word, jesus. its always a breath of fresh air whenever i finish a king book and then read somebody else like Crichton. If King were an effiecient writer, his books would all be 1/3 the size.</font>

*applause*
i can't believe I wasted so much time reading the Stand. a friend prodded me into reading it.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 02:33 PM
no way, she's an awful actress!

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 02:36 PM
is not!

El Scorcho
04-09-2002, 03:09 PM
I love Stephen King too. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif Have you got the Blood and Smoke audio books yet? It's awesome. The box is designed like a pack of Marlboro Reds and opens like a cig pack.

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 03:10 PM
haven't even heard of it.
is it just an audio book, or are there print versions available, too?

El Scorcho
04-09-2002, 03:15 PM
I know at least two of them are in Everything's Eventual, his new collection of short stories. That's the thing about King...he'll say "This isn't being released in any other form" like Everything's Eventual and Riding the Bullet, but then he'll put it in a goddamn book and I'll look stupid for having bought that F13 computer program so I could read a story...*deep breath*

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 03:29 PM
Wow, you must been the only person to have actually paid for it..wait, didn't it cost something, or am i mistaken?

and gonzo..IS SO TIMES INFINITY!!

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I will never feed off the evergreen luster of your heart all because we all live in the valley of the walls when we speak we can peak from the windows of their mouths to see the land the women chant as they fly up to the sun

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 03:30 PM
http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif

we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, i think....

melancholia
04-09-2002, 03:38 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Blue*Carbonite:
and don't watch the horrid made-for-tv movie</font>

it was bad, but it wasn't made-for-tv bad...

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 03:42 PM
my bad, homie g funk

tweedyburd
04-09-2002, 04:19 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by doctor gonzo:


if you want to see SK movies that really do the books justice see The Shawshank Redemption, Stand By Me, The Green Mile, and The Dark Half, and Misery.

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Hello, Stand By Me?

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 04:25 PM
yes?

it did the novella justice. though the ending was a bit different. it's been about 12 years or so since i've seen/read it, but from what i can recall, it's a pretty faithful adaption of King's story.

oh, and while i'm thinking about it, the movie version of Apt Pupil is the biggest rape of a fantastic King story ever. i'll never forgive Bryan Singer for that one. anyone who's never read the original story is REALLY missing out.

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tweedyburd
04-09-2002, 04:46 PM
Yeah, it was a bit different, in that it didn't shoot back into the present with as much description at the end. But then, Shawshank was also treated differently at the end of the film than it was in the novella. The novella leaves the reader with an open ending, ambiguous as to whether Red will find Andy or that he'll even make it across the border.

The Patient
04-09-2002, 04:46 PM
i can't believe i read the whole thing.

i remember the day i finished reading it was the day of the columbine massacre

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 04:53 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by tweedyburd:
Yeah, it was a bit different, in that it didn't shoot back into the present with as much description at the end. But then, Shawshank was also treated differently at the end of the film than it was in the novella. The novella leaves the reader with an open ending, ambiguous as to whether Red will find Andy or that he'll even make it across the border.</font>

yeah. Shawshank just ended with the "i hope" line. i think he made it, though. after all that, they deserve the happy ending.

hhhmmm....i may have to watch that tonite, now.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 05:06 PM
apt pupil was horrible. i was so psyched when i heard that it was coming out, i went and saw it, jesus what a travesty. i guess i understand because the book got pretty explicit.

anyone ever read Gerald's Game, i think it was called? very deep and a really good one, but it never got very popular. That's one that could NEVER be a movie, because the whole movie would basically be about some chick naked and handcuffed.

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I will never feed off the evergreen luster of your heart all because we all live in the valley of the walls when we speak we can peak from the windows of their mouths to see the land the women chant as they fly up to the sun


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The Patient
04-09-2002, 05:10 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Blue*Carbonite:
apt pupil was horrible. i was so psyched when i heard that it was coming out, i went and saw it, jesus what a travesty. i guess i understand because the book got pretty explicit.



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you're right. the book was good but the movie was just stupid. sucks though, it could've been good.

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 05:15 PM
i could have forgiven the hack job they did on Apt Pupil if only they had left the ending alone. without that ending, everything else fizzles out.

doctor gonzo
04-09-2002, 05:21 PM
you know what? i'm sitting here remembering how they changed the whole cat(s) thing, and how Dussander ended up offing bums left and right, and how bullshit that whole ending-up-in-the-hospital-next-to-a-Holocaust-survivor-you-tortured thing was, that even if they left the ending as it was in the book, i still couldn't forgive it.

but i'm not bitter.

Blue*Carbonite
04-09-2002, 05:40 PM
yeah they totally fucked up the ending.

and hearts in atlantis..communist spies? what a load of bullshit. they butchered the best past of the book, the movie sucked even if they DID get anthony hopkins to play what's-his-name, although i have to admit he played him well.
but i'm just merely ranting now.

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I will never feed off the evergreen luster of your heart all because we all live in the valley of the walls when we speak we can peak from the windows of their mouths to see the land the women chant as they fly up to the sun

Cactuar
04-10-2002, 08:35 AM
Apt pupil is one of my favourite King stories, and the movie fucking sucked.

AND IT HAD ROSS FROM FRIENDS IN IT OMGWTFBBQ