View Full Version : The line between love and sex


bonsor
02-09-2002, 08:18 PM
...is minute. Subtle. The possible conseqences of overseeing it's existence are fatal. Especially in situations like mine.

Girl has boyfriend. Girl and boyfriend are eachother's first. Girl feels trapped by boyfriend.

Boy has crush (a year and a half to be exact) on girl. Boy confesses feelings to girl. Girl doesn't feel the same way.

Time passes. Girl reveals true feelings to boy. Girl arranges date (this sunday night) with boy despite current relationship with boyfriend. Girl tells boy that girl and boy will be more than friends after sunday night.

Now, 'boy' has a choice to make. To resist advancements made by girl or to accept advancements made by girl. What determines what boy does is completely reliant on what boy wants.

Does boy want relationship, or does boy want nookie? Boy has no fucking clue. Boy has no previous experience to rely on as a reference. Boy is confused. Boy knows what to do, but doesn't know what he wants.

I am boy.

nevermind
02-09-2002, 08:23 PM
boy, girl, whatever, are all pathetic little dramatic pieces of shit who need to get over themselves and shut the fuck up with this insignificant whiny teenage bullshit babble that nobody gives a fuck about.

strange_one
02-09-2002, 08:27 PM
<font color=FF00FF> go for the nookie ******, you know that's what you ultimately want

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bonsor
02-09-2002, 08:29 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by nevermind:
boy, girl, whatever, are all pathetic little dramatic pieces of shit who need to get over themselves and shut the fuck up with this insignificant whiny teenage bullshit babble that nobody gives a fuck about.</font>I like you.

bittertrance
02-09-2002, 08:30 PM
sounds like a freddy prinze jr movie

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 08:32 PM
<font color="orange">If she's already in a relationship, don't mess with her. That's just asking for trouble. You have to think about it and say to yourself "now, would I want my girl to do this to me?"

If you just want sex... that's up to you. But remember, guys can be sluts too.

If you want a relationship with this girl, keep in mind that she's going to probably cheat on you too. and unless you're a fool, you don't want that.
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Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 08:46 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
You have to think about it and say to yourself "now, would I want my girl to do this to me?"
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Don't put yourself in another guy's shoes. They don't care about you, pay them the same respect and fuck their whore girlfriend.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 08:58 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
Don't put yourself in another guy's shoes. They don't care about you, pay them the same respect and fuck their whore girlfriend.</font>

<font color="orange">It's exactly that kind of attitude that keeps the bullshit coming full circle.
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So very sad about me
02-09-2002, 09:00 PM
So the hair's a chick magnet?? http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/confused.gif

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Raskolnikov
02-09-2002, 09:18 PM
Brad has a good point here.

If she's willing to cheat on her current boyfriend, what's stopping her from cheating on your 8 months down the road from now?

killtheyouth
02-09-2002, 09:42 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:

Don't put yourself in another guy's shoes. They don't care about you, pay them the same respect and fuck their whore girlfriend.</font>

aww c'mon, what would The Promise Ring say?

Probably something like "oh messy worldsh, kitchen spoon girlsh broke my sunny delight heartsh, im going gay (and bald)"

if you're kidding, funny. if you're not, awful.

don't do it, taking part in cheating (even if you're not the one in a relationship) is a bad, immoral thing to do.

Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:07 PM
It was a joke, I don't want anyone messing with what's mine either.
How can he be going gay? I thought he was already as gay as you can get. I've felt a departure from the gayness, all the songs on Very Emergency sound like they are about girls. Well he did introduce 'Best Looking Boy' with 'this song's about hot ****' and that wasn't too long ago. I'm pretty sure the gay is pretty consistant.
Re: Really early song -> Watertown Plank
'There will be ice cream for naked boys swimming in kettles'
Lyrical genius I say. Of course, I don't have a taste for good lyrics. I just like singers with lisps singing about how they're lanterns and their heads are moons.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 10:11 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
It was a joke, I don't want anyone messing with what's mine either. </font>

<font color="orange">No.
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Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:12 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by killtheyouth:
"oh messy worldsh, kitchen spoon girlsh broke my sunny delight heartsh, im going gay (and bald)"
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Sounds more like caP'n Jazz/Tim Kinsella to me (except for the gay and bald).

Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:13 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
<font color="orange">No.
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Don't worry I don't want your dirty metal girls anyway.

Human Replica Droid
02-09-2002, 10:17 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Raskolnikov:
Brad has a good point here.

If she's willing to cheat on her current boyfriend, what's stopping her from cheating on your 8 months down the road from now?

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T-totally.
Then you will have given it up to a girl who you might ultimately fall in love with and then have her crush you.
Doesn't really matter, though, cause once your get yourself into the nookie situation you probably won't be able to stop anyway.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 10:18 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:

Don't worry I don't want your dirty metal girls anyway.

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<font color="orange">DORITOZ!!!

Try again, ass-clown:

http://raversaregay.homestead.com/files/dusty2-16.jpg
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Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:20 PM
Ok, I will no longer be replying in this thread because it's gone from funny to disturbing. I didn't want to see that and I won't ever see it again.

killtheyouth
02-09-2002, 10:21 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
It was a joke</font>

haha alright, just checkin. there seem to be quite a few people here with a skewed moral compass, so...

and yeah, that is more cap'n jazzish than anything...ah well. blame the kinsellas for being such easy targets.

*bloop* *woosh* *clicking spoons* *kids singing*

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 10:22 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
Ok, I will no longer be replying in this thread because it's gone from funny to disturbing. I didn't want to see that and I won't ever see it again.</font>

<font color="orange">Ladies and gentleman, here we have the true definition of "cop out".
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Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:24 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
<font color="orange">Ladies and gentleman, here we have the true definition of "cop out".
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<font color="red">

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Comon! It's like a goth bunny that's had far too many pellets.

Elvis The Fat Years
02-09-2002, 10:24 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by nevermind:
boy, girl, whatever, are all pathetic little dramatic pieces of shit who need to get over themselves and shut the fuck up with this insignificant whiny teenage bullshit babble that nobody gives a fuck about.</font>

your my hero.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 10:26 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
Comon! It's like a goth bunny that's had far too many pellets.</font>

<font color="orange">I thought you weren't coming back?
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Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:29 PM
I'm some how drawn to pudgy bunny. It's got to be that fat face. I like my faces shaped like asses.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 10:37 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
I'm some how drawn to pudgy bunny. It's got to be that fat face. I like my faces shaped like asses.</font>

<font color="orange">Hilarious! Got any more insults?

Or better yet, let's see a picture of yourself and your girlfriend (if you swing that way).
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Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:40 PM
Where'd she get that collar? Hot Topic? I know for sure the goth bunny ears are from there because I own a pair.

Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:45 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by killtheyouth:
and yeah, that is more cap'n jazzish than anything...ah well. blame the kinsellas for being such easy targets.

*bloop* *woosh* *clicking spoons* *kids singing*</font>
For some reason everytime you bring them up I put on a CD and love them even more. And I'm starting to dislike Low Level Owl more since you made that post. Well the second part is a lie. I'm going to go put on some Jimmy Eat World and cry myself to sleep. Only Jim Atkins understands me http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif "And if you were with me tonight/ I'd sing to you just one more time/ A song for a heart so big/ God wouldn't let it live." Ha.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 10:46 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
Where'd she get that collar? Hot Topic? I know for sure the goth bunny ears are from there because I own a pair.</font>

<font color="orange">Goth bunny ears? Okay... first off, they're kitty ears that she got a couple of halloweens ago. Secondly, GOTH? What in the fuck are you talking about?

I'm not sure where she got the collar from, but I can assure you that she's not gothic - though I doubt that will change your mind.

and another picture for you to jack off to:

http://raversaregay.homestead.com/files/dbm.jpg
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Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 10:50 PM
Damn that guy on the couch made me squirt as soon as the picture loaded.

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FearFactory
02-09-2002, 10:53 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
Damn that guy on the couch made me squirt as soon as the picture loaded.

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<font color="orange">I'm still awaiting a picture of yourself and your girl/boyfriend, you worthless troll.
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nevermind
02-09-2002, 10:54 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
<font color="orange">I'm still awaiting a picture of yourself and your girl/boyfriend, you worthless troll.
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you are a moron if you're actually waiting for a "troll" to do something you asked.

http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/rolleyes.gif

eh, you're a moron anyways.


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Satanstick
02-09-2002, 10:55 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
<font color="orange">If she's already in a relationship, don't mess with her. That's just asking for trouble. You have to think about it and say to yourself "now, would I want my girl to do this to me?"

If you just want sex... that's up to you. But remember, guys can be sluts too.

If you want a relationship with this girl, keep in mind that she's going to probably cheat on you too. and unless you're a fool, you don't want that.
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werd

sugarsickness
02-09-2002, 10:55 PM
great facial hair.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 11:00 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Satanstick:
werd</font>

<font color="orange">The Amazin Azn agreez!
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Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 11:03 PM
Here's my yearbook picture and picture of me out in the field.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid29/p582f55960a087c06116af4067753bddf/fdf1a344.gif
Here's my girlfriend's. What can I say, I date my own kind...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid29/p582f55960a087c06116af4067753bddf/fdf1a344.gif

[This message has been edited by Best Looking Boy (edited 02-09-2002).]

killtheyouth
02-09-2002, 11:06 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
For some reason everytime you bring them up I put on a CD and love them even more. And I'm starting to dislike Low Level Owl more since you made that post. Well the second part is a lie. I'm going to go put on some Jimmy Eat World and cry myself to sleep. Only Jim Atkins understands me http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif "And if you were with me tonight/ I'd sing to you just one more time/ A song for a heart so big/ God wouldn't let it live." Ha.</font>

eheheheheh

killtheyouth
02-09-2002, 11:07 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Best Looking Boy:
Here's my yearbook picture and picture of me out in the field.
http://pluto.spaceports.com/~thanatos/war2/orc-units/axethrower-2.gif
Here's my girlfriend's. What can I say, I date my own kind...
http://pluto.spaceports.com/~thanatos/war2/orc-units/axethrower-2.gif </font>

warcraft 2 rules.

The exploding boy
02-09-2002, 11:21 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
You have to think about it and say to yourself "now, would I want my girl to do this to me?"

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sickbadthing
02-09-2002, 11:27 PM
way to ruin john's thread.

i'm ashamed of all of you.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 11:30 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by sickbadthing:
way to ruin john's thread.

i'm ashamed of all of you.</font>

<font color="orange">*bends you over*

UNF! UNF! UNFUNFUNF OHHHH YEAHHHH!!
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killtheyouth
02-09-2002, 11:31 PM
oh c'mon, the answer was fucking obvious and several people stated it. No further bludgeoning was needed and i trust he is intelligent enough to not fuck with someone elses relationship.

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 11:34 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by killtheyouth:
oh c'mon, the answer was fucking obvious and several people stated it. No further bludgeoning was needed and i trust he is intelligent enough to not fuck with someone elses relationship.</font>

Nick K
02-09-2002, 11:37 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:

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this girl looks like one of the Olson twins...

FearFactory
02-09-2002, 11:39 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Nick K:
this girl looks like one of the Olson twins... </font>

<font color="orange">That would be my girlfriend, dusty.
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Nick K
02-09-2002, 11:41 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
That would be my girlfriend, dusty.


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i figured as much.

Best Looking Boy
02-09-2002, 11:44 PM
Hey you're a big guy... that's better than you should be able to do.

meow
02-10-2002, 01:44 AM
if you can get sex w/o love, fucking go for it

killtheyouth
02-10-2002, 01:46 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by meow:
if you can get sex w/o love, fucking go for it</font>

she has a BOYFRIEND.

Kumar Littlejeans
02-10-2002, 02:19 AM
Thhis line you speak of was demonstrated quite finely in the film Eyes Wide Shut. Of course, about 3 people noticed this, so it was rendered ineffective.

nevermind
02-10-2002, 03:30 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by sickbadthing:
way to ruin john's thread.

i'm ashamed of all of you.</font>

shut the fuck up, pusssy.

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bonsor
02-10-2002, 09:24 AM
I'll elaborate on the situation.'

He is 19. She is 16. They are eachother's first big relationship. He moved to her side of town to be with her more. He speaks of marriage and having kids. He's practically waiting for her to graduate so they can move in together. In my opinion, that's fucking sick, but whatever.

He's had infidelity problems of his own, which doesn't make it any more right, I know, but it's more reason to break up with him.

She strongly indicated to me on the phone last night during our 5 hour conversation that she's going to break it off very soon. She said "I'm only 16. I'm too young and too inexperienced to be this serious with someone. I just need to go out with other people and live for the moment". I interpret that as she just wants experience points, as do I. A fling is inevitable. A relationship is possible. I honestly don't have a problem with that.

bonsor
02-10-2002, 09:31 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Raskolnikov:
If she's willing to cheat on her current boyfriend, what's stopping her from cheating on your 8 months down the road from now?</font>

This thought did cross my mind. I think of it this way. High school relationships don't last forever. It's kind of like buying a dog. In both cases, they will die before you do. It's like buying yourself a prepackaged tragedy. I'm going to try to make it work out, but I'm not going to milk it dry. There's no point in trying to make a highschool relationship last forever, especially if it's your first. That's how I see it. Things will probably fuck up, but I'll get some EXP out of it.

pale_princess
02-10-2002, 09:34 AM
my roommate kate finds it hard to have sex with someone she loves.

wangcomputers
02-10-2002, 10:19 AM
just after experience points, eh?

perhaps you shouldn't have played those RPGs after all..

meow
02-10-2002, 12:35 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ******:

She strongly indicated to me on the phone last night during our 5 hour conversation that she's going to break it off very soon.</font>

then you say "if you want to be with me that bad, you will break it off with him first, and THEN something will happen between us. until then, us=just friends.

bonsor
02-10-2002, 12:36 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by meow:
then you say "if you want to be with me that bad, you will break it off with him first, and THEN something will happen between us. until then, us=just friends.</font>
shut up

meow
02-10-2002, 12:41 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ******:

shut up</font>

you just dont like it because its the most LOGICAL solution.

raindrops + sunshowers
02-10-2002, 12:43 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ******:
shut up</font>

The truth hurts sometimes.

John, I like you, and you're just asking for trouble. It's easy to sit back, removed from the situation, and say, "Well, I'm going to do this, this, and this, and I realize things might get rough down the road but I just want to try it ... "

But life has a way of throwing curveballs at you. What you're saying comes easily now: you haven't been in a similar situation before, and furthermore, I would guess that you're probably intrigued by the entire thing and you want to know what it's all about, and if you go in with the mindset that it's not going to work, then it'll be okay.

It just doesn't work that way, though. I can't say anything to prove it to you besides the fact that I've been there, and it just doesn't fucking work. It makes you miserable, and it's not worth it.

That said, ultimately it's your decision and either your mistake to make or your triumph to have. Just be prepared to live with the ramifications, both positive and negative, when it's all over--even the ones you never thought could possibly happen to you.

bittertrance
02-10-2002, 12:47 PM
i don't understand why you would ask a bunch of SP fans for relationship advice

meow
02-10-2002, 12:49 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bittertrance:
i don't understand why you would ask a bunch of SP fans for relationship advice</font>

I <3 JARED

bonsor
02-10-2002, 12:50 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by meow:
you just dont like it because its the most LOGICAL solution.</font>I don't like it because it's YOUR solution

raindrops + sunshowers
02-10-2002, 12:52 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bittertrance:
i don't understand why you would ask a bunch of SP fans for relationship advice</font>

BURNED

OH WAIT

NOT BURNED

meow
02-10-2002, 12:53 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ******:
Originally posted by meow:
you just dont like it because its the most LOGICAL solution.</font>I don't like it because it's YOUR solution



Well the only reason that I dont want you to get hurt is because if you do, all of netphoria will have to put up with it.

bonsor
02-10-2002, 12:54 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ******:
I don't like it because it's YOUR solution</font>By the way, never ever reply to my threads.

bonsor
02-10-2002, 12:57 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by meow:
Well the only reason that I dont want you to get hurt is because if you do, all of netphoria will have to put up with it.</font>

I fail to see how localizing my rants within one thread affects 'all of netphoria'. You clicked on the thread, bitch.

bonsor
02-10-2002, 01:01 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by raindrops + sunshowers:
BURNED

OH WAIT

NOT BURNED

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Word.

Listen, I'm going to end up doing it. I've weighed the consequences and realize that I only have myself to blame if I fuck it up. I'll use it as experience.

I'll use a variation of a famous Shakespeare quote. It's better to have made out and fucked up someone else's relationship than to have never made out at all.

I'll learn from it. Believe me.

NegaBenji
02-10-2002, 01:59 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by meow:
I <3 JARED</font>

TAKE IT OUT BACK

THRILLHO
02-10-2002, 02:22 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ******:
I'll use a variation of a famous Shakespeare quote. It's better to have made out and fucked up someone else's relationship than to have never made out at all.
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that's what i was going to say. i bet you're thinking "finally, after years of having no sex/love/dating life, *something* is happening. as in, not nothing. which means it's an opportunity. if i just decline, i'll regret it horribly." so go for it.

i know it's not the most moral and failsafe approach to the situation, but it's one that hasn't been acknowledged yet.

but to be honest, meow's decision is the most logical. there's nothing wrong with just waiting for her to end it off first. this guy seems posessive, and you are going to be his enemy. what if he's fucked up? either wait a while until he's out or watch your back. actually, watch your back anyways.

btw, i love the term "experience points." i'm going to start using it.

goatse
02-10-2002, 02:35 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
<font color="orange">Goth bunny ears? Okay... first off, they're kitty ears that she got a couple of halloweens ago. Secondly, GOTH? What in the fuck are you talking about?

I'm not sure where she got the collar from, but I can assure you that she's not gothic - though I doubt that will change your mind.

and another picture for you to jack off to:

http://raversaregay.homestead.com/files/dbm.jpg
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..i think she is hot.

Never_Nohen
02-11-2002, 02:38 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ******:
It's like buying yourself a prepackaged tragedy.</font>

John, I love you. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif

Anyway, yeah. Cheating is bad stuff. Not only is it just generally ethically uncool and a bad precedent for any future relationship, but it's bound to get everyone involved burned, especially if you harbor hope of this becoming anything more than a one-time fling. If she's planning to break it off with him soon anyway, why not just hold off a little while, and save yourself the unnecessary drama? You've waited this long, I'm sure you can wait a little longer, for the sake of your first experience being just between you and her, right? Because as long as she's still with this guy and hooking up with you non-consentually (from the standpoint of their relationship), then he's going to be an intrinsic part of your relationship with her...which seems just unnecessarily messy and unfun.

But it is your life, and it looks like you've made up your mind, so...at least let us all know how it goes. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif

nevermind
02-11-2002, 02:44 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Never_Nohen:
John, I love you. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif

Anyway, yeah. Cheating is bad stuff. Not only is it just generally ethically uncool and a bad precedent for any future relationship, but it's bound to get everyone involved burned, especially if you harbor hope of this becoming anything more than a one-time fling. If she's planning to break it off with him soon anyway, why not just hold off a little while, and save yourself the unnecessary drama? You've waited this long, I'm sure you can wait a little longer, for the sake of your first experience being just between you and her, right? Because as long as she's still with this guy and hooking up with you non-consentually (from the standpoint of their relationship), then he's going to be an intrinsic part of your relationship with her...which seems just unnecessarily messy and unfun.

But it is your life, and it looks like you've made up your mind, so...at least let us all know how it goes. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif</font>


blah blah. ya dyke-ish whore.
like you've never cheated http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/rolleyes.gif

what a sad sorry bitch you are. heh.

Lie
02-11-2002, 02:53 AM
Well, I've avoided this topic long enough. Time to throw in my two cents.

What I don't understand is what's so damn hard about her breaking up with this guy before she gets together with you (whether it's just sex or an actual relationship) or about you waiting until she breaks up with him. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think the two of you may both be getting off a little on the whole cheating thing.

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NinjaTurtle
02-11-2002, 02:56 AM
hey hey ****** guess what?
if shes willing to leave this other guy thats shes been with for who knows how long then what will she do to you? similar situation happened to me for a while, shit it still is. but im the guy on the other end, she left me. but now shes floating between me and this other dude.
all im saying is girls arent as smart or sensible or logical as they think they are.
and shes young, and possibly scared by the choice she might make, and maybe she likes the change it could bring. but if oyu want her take her, know that the other guy isnt gonna just walk away so prepare for a whole lot of shit man... then again... fuck what we all think, do what you want...

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NegaBenji
02-11-2002, 07:30 AM
I think what he means is he's not in it for the long haul, this is just a little thing between the two of them. I'm not really inclined to believe it will be any more than that, it sounds like she's looking for an escape from her current relationship. John, just be aware of 1 thing - if you do this before she breaks it off with him, you'll be the 'other guy', the one who cheated with his fiancee. If he's that committed to her he's likely to be pretty hurt, and pretty pissed - and seeing as he won't want to take it out on her, expect some bad vibes coming your way.

wangcomputers
02-11-2002, 07:36 AM
shoryuken

melancholia
02-11-2002, 08:43 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by FearFactory:
<font color="orange">If she's already in a relationship, don't mess with her. That's just asking for trouble. You have to think about it and say to yourself "now, would I want my girl to do this to me?"

If you just want sex... that's up to you. But remember, guys can be sluts too.

If you want a relationship with this girl, keep in mind that she's going to probably cheat on you too. and unless you're a fool, you don't want that.
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i agree... if she really wanted you, she would have broken up with her boyfriend before your date with her.

this girl, as wonderful as she may be to you, has a decision to make, and you (boy) should not be moving in on her right now. the ball is in her court.

don't fuck with other peoples relationships, until they are 100% over.

melancholia
02-11-2002, 08:49 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ******:
I'll elaborate on the situation.'

He is 19. She is 16. They are eachother's first big relationship. He moved to her side of town to be with her more. He speaks of marriage and having kids. He's practically waiting for her to graduate so they can move in together. In my opinion, that's fucking sick, but whatever.

He's had infidelity problems of his own, which doesn't make it any more right, I know, but it's more reason to break up with him.

She strongly indicated to me on the phone last night during our 5 hour conversation that she's going to break it off very soon. She said "I'm only 16. I'm too young and too inexperienced to be this serious with someone. I just need to go out with other people and live for the moment". I interpret that as she just wants experience points, as do I. A fling is inevitable. A relationship is possible. I honestly don't have a problem with that.</font>

If he's talking about living together, having kids, getting married... and she is sneaking around on dates behind his back...there is something very wrong going on.

and again, this is where SHE has to make a decision about her relationship status... I mean, right now, it sounds like this girl is loving the attentions she's getting from two guys, and is making no effort to pick one...

which in the long run, is going to hurt you, him, or both.

i'm a firm believer in "what goes around, comes around"...so, if you think it's right to screw around with a girl who has a boyfriend...go ahead...but don't be shocked when she turns around and does it to you in a year when you fall hard for her...

melancholia
02-11-2002, 08:50 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by meow:
then you say "if you want to be with me that bad, you will break it off with him first, and THEN something will happen between us. until then, us=just friends.</font>


right...i like you meow.

Best Looking Boy
02-11-2002, 11:11 AM
Stop talking about the actual subject. You're giving it merit by discussing it. Talk about how big metalhead's girlfriend is.

Ammy
02-11-2002, 01:47 PM
"metalhead's girlfiend" is one of the prettiest, sweetest girls I have ever met.


with that said... It's useless to give you advice, you're going to to what you're going to do... but honestly.. the best things are worth waiting for... have a little patience. ask her straight out if she means to break up with him. wait till it happens or the confusion and mess will just get worse. patience damnit! if you're gunna get some, you're gunna get some, you've waited this long, wait a little longer, and maybe you'll get more than just the physical crap.

neopryn
02-11-2002, 04:24 PM
Nobody has asked the most important question yet:

Is she hot??

Best Looking Boy
02-11-2002, 05:25 PM
It doesn't look like that's a big issue in his mind.

The exploding boy
02-11-2002, 06:42 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by wangcomputers:
shoryuken</font>

Hadoken is much more appropriate for the situation. Ratatasprounkief even maybe.

PhantomFM
02-11-2002, 06:59 PM
FearFactory: you should be proud

meow etc: i applaud your high moral standards, but they don't really work in a real situation like this

******: She's the one with the boyfriend and she knows you're interested... unless it's a moral issue for you to hook up with a girl who has a boyfriend, which to me has a very weak moral connection. if it was whether or not to go after a girl who's happy with a boyfriend, then morals would come into play, especially what your motives are in pursuing the girl (hookup or relationship).

If she wants to its not your problem.
Providing that you're not a player and this doesn't happen all the time, you'll regret not doing it more.

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