Anyone coming to Pukkelpop? I'll be there for three days, from August 16 until 18. The Pumpkins play on Friday 17, scheduled from 0:30 till 2:00 (at night).

www.pukkelpop.be

... yes...count me in... i am making a trip to amsterdam - maastricht and bought one-day ticket to see the Pumpkins in Hasselt.. hope to see you around :)

see y'all there. after the festival I'm going to Amsterdam and then on to Frankfurt too.

i'm probably going to glasgow after pukkelpop.

One week away now. I'm really looking forward to it.

oh yeah! :cool:

any advice on the ins and outs of Pukkelpop ie any special items to bring etc?


I've never been to a foreign festival and packing will be stange considering I have to bring it on a plane. Irish festivals are either a washout or a sunburn fest.

I will check the weather forecast......

for pukkelpop:
- camping: no glass, no barbecue sets. they don't allow campfires and you have to keep the firelanes free. (booze has to come in cans or plastic bottles.)
- festival: no plastic bottles, no cans. you can bring drinks in cartons though. food is allowed too. (cartons and food are allowed on the camping too, of course.)
- you first need to get to the entrance of the festival with your ticket, to get your wristband. you need that to be allowed in the camping. (this is really useful info if there's a line at the camping entrance. ;))
- if you're coming from the train stop, the festival is on the right side of the road, the camping is on the left side.

at least, that's how it was the last years. i'm not responsible for changes...

weather forecast doesn't look too good right now: dry on thursday, probably rain on friday and saturday. i hope this will still change.

Thanks Bram. I've heard of no glass (same over here) but no plastic bottles? damn.

are you also going to pukkelpop for three days?

Yeah I fly into Brussels on Thurs and then it's straight to Pukkelpop. I'm heading on to Amsterdam as soon as the festival is over and then I go to Frankfurt for a day before flying back to Dublin on Wednesday night.

5 days to go... looking forward... if you see someone in zero shirt... say hallo to me :D

If there's only one person wearing a zero shirt at Pukkelpop I'll personally grant you 3 wishes.

hahaha

yeah.. i know... i was just kidding.. however, on Novarock, in Austria.. they were relatively only a few people wearing Zero shirt... the most people wore "billy talent" shirt.. i didnt even know that they were so popular in europe..

Have fun Bram, I`d love to join you - especially cause it`s only 90 minutes away from here - and continue to work on the kluttergeld movie but I`m still suffering from the expenses of the shows in May/June.
I hope you have a good time, you and your big pack of Belgian waffles :D

thx, jan. shame you can't come.

btw, martyr, with most pukkelpop tickets you can take buses and trains from anywhere in belgium to the festival (and back) for free. it depends how and where you bought it. to be sure if this also applies for your ticket, check out the website.

thx, jan. shame you can't come.

yeah, it's too bad

what's so funny about that? :erm:

i just realized he actually lives closer to the festival than me.

what's so funny about that? :erm:

because reading that I thought you're talking to me. I always forget we share the same name.

capice.

Bram, do you know how far is the "marquee stage" from the main stage??? i also wanted to check Dinosaur Jr, but if its not close i would rather stay by the main stage and secure a good place to see Billy...

Thanks

go see dino jr, they do not dissapoint live

thx, jan. shame you can't come.

btw, martyr, with most pukkelpop tickets you can take buses and trains from anywhere in belgium to the festival (and back) for free. it depends how and where you bought it. to be sure if this also applies for your ticket, check out the website.


I read that about the free ground transport with the ticket. Pretty cool. I plan to avail of this.

...............just occured to me that I'm seeing SP again on Friday. That's cool.

go see dino jr, they do not dissapoint live
dinosaur jr are programmed right between arcade fire and smashing pumpkins, on another stage.

depending where you are at the front stage, i think it must be possible to make it to the marquee in ten minutes at most.

i'm also having troubles with this programmation. i really want to see dinosaur jr, but i don't want to miss anything from arcade fire and from sp. and i don't like rushing, losing whatever good spot i might have, and so on. so i'll probably just end up skipping dinosaur jr. :(

i would skip dino in that situation, arcade fire are amazing like whoa

exactly :(

thanks for information... also looking forward to see chris cornell playing old hits from Temple of the dog... yupi :)

That's really bad. Dinosaur are probably the best live band I've seen in the last 5 years (well, except for TSP of course).

the best thing i've seen the last years is probably my morning jacket. didn't know who they were, but whoa man... david bowie was also very impressive.

Bowie on the "Reality" tour?

http://www.worldcollectorsnet.com/magazine/issue33/AnnieMadameAlexanderlig.jpg




tomorrow?

Hopefully it will be an equally good performance as RockAmRing!

bump

Pumpkins finished about an hour ago.. currently 3am in Belgium

set list? :(

set list? :(

Sorry, I'm in San Francisco, so I don't know the setlist.. :) I just googled Belgium to see what time it was there.. and someone posted a few days ago that the Pumpkins were due to stop at 2am.. but yeah we should hear something soon unless they decided to tack on a double Gossamer at the end

haha, yeah I wasn't meaning to ask just you, though it does look that way. ;)

WHere's the goods?

wheres teh gossamer
people are probably asleep in their tents guys, lets weait for belgium to wake up. according to my calculations, its 8:30 AM there

Setlist :

United States
Bleeding the Orchid
Cherub Rock
Starz
Zero
Hummer
Starla
BWBW
Glass & the ghost children
Death from Above
To Sheila
Tonight Tonight
Tarantula
Superchrist
Doomsday Clock
Heavy Metal Machine

Muzzle on setlist but don't play

^^ thank you

Are the festival grounds located in Hasselt or Kiewit?

Excellent show last night. Very decent and varied set list. The band was in pretty good shape, good vocal performance by Billy but, for me, the definite star was Jimmy and his amazing drumming. He was on a roll, he really carried the band through the gig. Ginger and Jeff are as equally zero charasmatic as when I saw them 3 months ago.
Only thing Billy said was:
'We're from Peru' (euh yeah good one)
'We have a new album'
'Thanks, thanks for staying with us or something'

Also what was pretty funny during Tarantula:

The audience assumed the song had ended but actually it was just half completed. Billy gave the crowd a big frown and then continued. This guy has some attitude.

In the end, another monumental performance, imo. Although, I kind of got the impression the crowd wasn't really into it that much. With the hits everyone went along but from an objective point of view I think they played too many Zeitgeist songs and songs that take up 10-12min to really 'get to the crowd'. But I guess that's the difference between festival and indoor.

Highlights:

Bleeding The Orchid
Starla
Tonight Tonight

Too bad about Muzzle though :S

Also here are some pics from last night and a review for dutch readers.

http://blogs.humo.be/blogs/2007/08/smashing_pumpkins_the_main.asp

Also here are some pics from last night and a review for dutch readers.

http://blogs.humo.be/blogs/2007/08/smashing_pumpkins_the_main.asp


About the setlist:
"no-one will argue the fact that Billy Corgan has always been a stubborn kind of guy, but noone was expecting such a case of "you can all kiss my balls".

Are the festival grounds located in Hasselt or Kiewit? Kiewit

Also here are some pics from last night and a review for dutch readers.

http://blogs.humo.be/blogs/2007/08/smashing_pumpkins_the_main.asp

thanks for the link... loved, loved, loved the last pic of him

just got back from pukkelpop. amazing concert IMO.

i was just wondering where the song superchrist came from? is this a new song? a cover? first time being played? any info would be appreciated.

and i need to listen to glass and the ghostchildren again. they did a really weird version, musically totally different.... but probably really good though.

^ new song, first played in San Francisco in July.. http://www.spfc.org/tours/song.html?song_id=978&display=

Superchrist is definitely a kick ass song. Very iconic for their new live sound.


Here is a small clip from last night (unfortunalety it's BWBW):

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=crJp3dY20s8

Arrgh...OMG!

Now Billy is wearing his Horshack scarf with that costume. WTF.

Now Billy is wearing his Horshack scarf with that costume. WTF.

LOL

For people who like synchronicity, they just mentioned "Welcome Back Kotter" on a radio show I'm listening to as I read this. Pretty funny

my morning jacket.
these guys pretty much rocked my nuts off live

In the end, another monumental performance, imo. Although, I kind of got the impression the crowd wasn't really into it that much. With the hits everyone went along but from an objective point of view I think they played too many Zeitgeist songs and songs that take up 10-12min to really 'get to the crowd'. But I guess that's the difference between festival and indoor.


The crowd was really into it from where I was standing, which was between the stage and those fences. Everybody was really into all the classics, and even the 'new' zeitgeist songs got a fairly well response. Way better than Tool, where everybody was just standing there, even right in front of the stage.

All in all, a very good concert. I went to the Paris gig, so it was nice to hear songs that where later added to their repertoire like death from above, starla, heavy metal machine and superchrist. My only complaint is that they should've replaced glass and the ghost children with two more 'festivalfriendly' songs. Three 10+min songs for a festival is a little bit overkill imo.

Now Billy is wearing his Horshack scarf with that costume. WTF.
it was very cold that night. he took his scarf of after a couple of songs, but a bit later, he put it back on.

....so... after coming back from my vacation of which was the highlight the Pukkelpop on friday, i have to say that the concert was really amazing, but it would be much better if the crowd would be more into it... and also billy could communicate more with the crowd... for the hardcore fans as me it was amazing, but i guess this show wasn´t very "festivalfriendly"... also no encores... but however... Starla, Superchrist, Death From Above... really rocking version of HMM... i really enjoyed the show.. but i wish they were more people like me.. /i am sure they were, but the crowd seemed overall a little bit quite to me .../

....so... after coming back from my vacation of which was the highlight the Pukkelpop on friday, i have to say that the concert was really amazing, but it would be much better if the crowd would be more into it... and also billy could communicate more with the crowd... for the hardcore fans as me it was amazing, but i guess this show wasn´t very "festivalfriendly"... also no encores... but however... Starla, Superchrist, Death From Above... really rocking version of HMM... i really enjoyed the show.. but i wish they were more people like me.. /i am sure they were, but the crowd seemed overall a little bit quite to me .../

I agree completely; and I'd like to add that they could replace for instance 'Glass & Ghost' with 'Today', 'Disarm', 'Rocket' etc.

I think that would've excited the crowd a lot more, but ah well it's over now.

Pretty great show. I really enjoyed the festival. Hey Bram I saw your name carved into a toilet door just up the street from the festival.

NIN were amazing and Tool and Cornell were awesome too. I took around 400 photos so I'll pick out the best ones when I get back to Ireland on Wednesday and post them here.

I'm in Amsterdam at the moment. Pretty crazy city this.

Hey Bram I saw your name carved into a toilet door just up the street from the festival.
wasn't me.

Pretty great show. I really enjoyed the festival. Hey Bram I saw your name carved into a toilet door just up the street from the festival.

NIN were amazing and Tool and Cornell were awesome too. I took around 400 photos so I'll pick out the best ones when I get back to Ireland on Wednesday and post them here.

I'm in Amsterdam at the moment. Pretty crazy city this.

I though Chris Cornell was really great. He doesn't even have to try to sing, it all comes naturally.

did the long intro for glass and the ghost children remind anyone else of a part of gossamer?

did the long intro for glass and the ghost children remind anyone else of a part of gossamer?
same goes for all other recent shows where they played glass.

also, i noticed he played tonight, tonight with a different guitar than in the beginning of the sp2 tour (i think) and then they went into tarantula without switching guitars. anyone else noticed this (on any show)?

also, i noticed he played tonight, tonight with a different guitar than in the beginning of the sp2 tour (i think) and then they went into tarantula without switching guitars. anyone else noticed this (on any show)?

I've seen BC play at least 2 different guitars on Tonight, Tonight in Asheville. I'll try to think about what they were :cool:

edited to add:
Here's the one that he plays on both Tonight, Tonight and Tarantula
http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/gallery/pics/83147586d24cd3717719d9835ccac2bd.jpg

Here's the one from Rock AM Ring
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6613/2niterk3.png

He only played it on June 30th in Asheville (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJdM7KNIe8o)

Are the festival grounds located in Hasselt or Kiewit?
i did some "research" on this. the festival is in kiewit. but kiewit isn't a city on its own. it isn't even big enough to call it a village. in the administration, it is considered a part of hasselt. so, basically, kiewit is more precise, but hasselt isn't incorrect either.

also, the location that is mentioned everywhere, "kempische steenweg", is the name of the street that lies next to the festival grounds.
the festival grounds don't really have a name, since they're just pieces of land they rent from the local farmers. (during the rest of the year they're probably full of cows.) but i still think it's a bit weird to use the name of the street as location.
i thought i'd mention this because maybe you weren't aware of this.