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silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 02:40 PM
does anyone have that image scanned i could see? i wanted that shirt...but it was only in a girl style. its the picture with the statue of liberty holding those flags on a bomb or whatever...

stacieglass
07-29-2007, 02:47 PM
does this help?

http://leftwave.com/stacieglass/sp/072707fillmore/IMG_3273.jpg

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 02:49 PM
well...i see it...
i was hopin some one had it scanned so i could see the detail. or maybe even know some place online that has it up close, or just the image itself.

thank you though

RopeyLopey
07-29-2007, 02:53 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f129/sebi2704/various/tspsweat.jpg
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silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 02:58 PM
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did i mention holland rocks.


thanks man

RopeyLopey
07-29-2007, 03:01 PM
did i mention holland rocks.


thanks man
may I know what did you do in Japan for 6 years and why didn't you stay? Was it because of the kid?

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 03:04 PM
may I know what did you do in Japan for 6 years and why didn't you stay? Was it because of the kid?

well i went to high school and some college. eventually i decided i didnt want to live with my parents anymore and rolled out.

i'd kill to go back though, and most likely will in the next couple of years.

my daughter didnt really have much to do with it...i got there in '98, left in '04, little bri is only 6 months old. on that note, i'd love for her to be raised in that environment, hence the hope to go back.

RopeyLopey
07-29-2007, 03:07 PM
i'd love for her to be raised in that environment, hence the hope to go back.
raising your kid in Japan? I don't know too much about it, but isn't the Japanese culture/environment a bit restrictive and generally not really good for the development of an individual? I've never been there and I know shit (all I have/know is two Japanese friends), so I'd be really thankful if you could explain this to me/set me right. thanks

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 03:12 PM
raising your kid in Japan? I don't know too much about it, but isn't the Japanese culture/environment a bit restrictive and generally not really good for the development of an individual? I'v enever been there and I know shit, so I'd be really thankful if you could explain this to me/set me right. thanks

i think you are thinking china...
japan has a lot of perks when it comes to raising kids, i feel. the most obvious one is how safe it is. i can recall drunken nights where me and my buddies would lose a backpack at the trainstation full of money and god knows what else, only to go back 2 days later and some one dropped it off at lost and found or whatever, untouched.

kids get on the trains late at night to go back home after hanging out all day. there's no way i'd put a kid under 16 on a train in downtown san diego after 8 pm.

they stay educated. schools there are pretty competitive. that has its drawbacks, but in the end you know they are being taught well. plus it doesnt hurt to learn another language.

the biggest danger there i think? the fucking marines stationed out there. drunks. violent ones. it makes americans look bad, and is kind of humiliating to see shit they do on the news.

and its fun. the place is so rich with culture, has 4 seasons, tons of historic sites.

i just like it alot.

SlingeroGuitaro
07-29-2007, 03:22 PM
dexter freebish toured throughout japan for a few months. my main thought on their youth - more systematic, less individualistic.

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 03:24 PM
systematic? well...they have uniforms at school...but i mean, as for what the kids wear around town? that shit is crazy non comformist stuff. it'd be tacky and ugly in america of course, but its far from systematic

RopeyLopey
07-29-2007, 03:24 PM
i think you are thinking china...

no, I was thinking Japan. I've been to China and I work pretty much in Chinese-exclusive environment. I was thinking Japan as more extreme case of this (I don't know how to call it) approach.
How do you think your kid would be compatible with her peers if she were raised in Japan and then you'd move back to America?

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 03:27 PM
same as me i guess...i was there from age 14-20...my brother was 11-18 while there and my youngest bro was 7-14...

we all came back and fit in pretty well...my middle bro is working in texas, im in cali, and my lil bro is in hawaii with my family still.

RopeyLopey
07-29-2007, 03:31 PM
same as me i guess...i was there from age 14-20...my brother was 11-18 while there and my youngest bro was 7-14...

we all came back and fit in pretty well...my middle bro is working in texas, im in cali, and my lil bro is in hawaii with my family still.alright, well I consider age 0-6 as more formative one.
Do you follow the Japanese handling of the nuclear powerplant issue after the earthquake?

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 03:36 PM
not so much...
i read that none of the errors threatened public health, but there was some bungling with how it was handled. they are pretty proficient people though. i'd imagine it'd be fixed quick.

i know they do all their construction on roads at night so there is no traffic during the day. i remember going home around 2 am and they'd all be out working. the next day, new lane. pretty cool.

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 03:40 PM
alright, well I consider age 0-6 as more formative one.
Do you follow the Japanese handling of the nuclear powerplant issue after the earthquake?
0-6 is pretty important, but consider she won't even be in school til 4 or 5? she'll be around me and her mom and neighboor kids during those years.

RopeyLopey
07-29-2007, 03:47 PM
0-6 is pretty important, but consider she won't even be in school til 4 or 5? she'll be around me and her mom and neighboor kids during those years.well I assumed you'd put her into kindergarten.

SlingeroGuitaro
07-29-2007, 03:47 PM
i wasnt meaning in the way they dress- i was meaning in the way they think... very in the box.

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 03:48 PM
yeah, thats why i said 4 or 5. i'm still a new dad and unsure of the exact rules and ages for schooling and stuff.

i tell you one thing though. i hate working on sundays. thank god for this website.

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 03:49 PM
i wasnt meaning in the way they dress- i was meaning in the way they think... very in the box.

in the box...
these are the kids who made pokemon, tamagotchi, and the ever weirder by the day animes popular...

i dont think anyone thinking in a box could fathom collecting monsters to raise and battle.

i'm just sayin'.

RopeyLopey
07-29-2007, 03:56 PM
not so much...
i read that none of the errors threatened public health, but there was some bungling with how it was handled. they are pretty proficient people though. i'd imagine it'd be fixed quick.

well I have no doubts about getting it fixed, I am thinking more about the handling of the issue that seems to speak volumes about Japan and I am really curious how deep does this go to the individual level.

You know how at first Japan turned down any foreign aid and submit any reports to IAEA, then said yes, but who knows what they are gonna do-probably nothing. Abe got really riled by the handling of this.

It is really interesting how Japan seems to perceive foreign aid - it looks like that for them foreign aid means admitting superiority of someone else. It's OK for Japan helping others and sending money all around the world, but they are not willing to accept help (even if those are only teams with dogs for searching people) from anyone else.
Into a lesser degree I observed the similar mentality by those Japanese friends at some moments - it was really weird and grotesque before I realized these are their peculiarities.
Do you know what I am talking about?

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 04:00 PM
well I have no doubts about getting it fixed, I am thinking more about the handling of the issue that seems to speak volumes about Japan and I am really curious does this go to the individual level.

You know how at first Japan turned down any foreign aid and submit any reports to IAEA, then said yes, but who knows what they are gonna do-probably nothing. Abe got really riled by the handling of this.

It is really interesting how Japan seems to perceive foreign aid - it looks like that for them foreign aid means admitting superiority of someone else. It's OK for Japan helping others and sending money all around the world, but they are not willing to accept help (even if those are only teams with dogs for searching people) from anyone else.
Into a lesser degree I observed the similar mentality by those Japanese friends at some moments - it was really weird and grotesque before I realized these are their peculiarities.
Do you know what I am talking about?

i do know what you mean. they are a proud group. i'm sure that goes back far into their history, and it is probably time to give some of that pride up. it can break you (see: WWII). on the other hand, i think with people around my age it is getting better. we have to realize that people handling the big important situations are still older, and it is their children who will be doing the handling later. me being the age of those children, and being around the new generation, i think there is more hope than worry to be had.

but you are very right, they don't want help often. thats the competitive thing i was talking about earlier, and how it has its drawbacks.

stumpycat
07-29-2007, 11:55 PM
As far as raising children in Japan, I do know that they have what essentially amount to nursery schools with academics, and that they are called "cram schools." Apparently a lot of Japanese families choose to send their children to these in order to get into a good preschool!

Also, whereas in China the pressure towards conformity comes more from external factors (such as their social institutions, which seem to worship bureaucratic functioning in the extreme--as well as a heavy handed system of legal order), the Japanese have a much wider range of personal freedoms but have a very strong internalization of that kind of societal group ethic and discipline. That's how it seems to me, anyway.

silent_brian13
07-29-2007, 11:59 PM
As far as raising children in Japan, I do know that they have what essentially amount to nursery schools with academics, and that they are called "cram schools." Apparently a lot of Japanese families choose to send their children to these in order to get into a good preschool!

Also, whereas in China the pressure towards conformity comes more from external factors (such as their social institutions, which seem to worship bureaucratic functioning in the extreme), with Japanese they have a much wider range of personal freedoms but have a very strong internalization of that kind of societal group ethic and discipline. That's how it seems to me, anyway.


yeah one of my good family friends told me how hard it was for her daughter to get into a preschool. it was more than just educational competitiveness too. there were athletics and everything.

mind you though, i would put my daughter in an international school so that wouldnt be too big of an issue